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Posted: 10/6/2015 1:06:59 AM EDT
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 1:08:24 AM EDT
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. I agree, but we need less government, not just fewer stooges. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 1:14:53 AM EDT
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Snitches get stitches! LOL
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Posted: 10/6/2015 1:17:50 AM EDT
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 1:18:27 AM EDT
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Obama should be welcoming him home with open arms for making the transparency he showed in our governments actions.
Instead, Obama has open arms for terrorist sympathizers and their families. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 1:31:11 AM EDT
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Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. We (the public) have absolutely no fuckin' idea what else he passed on to the Russians or anyone else - or what he will eventually leak. At this point, if you've already passed judgement on him, you are a fool. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 1:59:47 AM EDT
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We (the public) have absolutely no fuckin' idea what else he passed on to the Russians or anyone else - or what he will eventually leak. At this point, if you've already passed judgement on him, you are a fool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. We (the public) have absolutely no fuckin' idea what else he passed on to the Russians or anyone else - or what he will eventually leak. At this point, if you've already passed judgement on him, you are a fool. We will never know the truth. The only truth I know is fuck the fed gov. Bunch of commie fucktards. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 2:35:11 AM EDT
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Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. Works for me. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 3:30:48 AM EDT
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Eldridge Cleaver figured out something similar years ago.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 3:35:42 AM EDT
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Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. Our government shouldn't have been spying on us and this whole thing wouldn't have ever been a problem. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 3:45:20 AM EDT
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 3:46:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. Sounds like a plan. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 4:33:18 AM EDT
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Boo hoo, George Washington was not a true patriot, he accepted aid from the French |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 4:37:09 AM EDT
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. I hate to tell you this, but Snowden is a government stooge. He's just not working for our government. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 4:41:17 AM EDT
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Russia's not a human rights paradise, eh?
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Posted: 10/6/2015 4:41:57 AM EDT
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We (the public) have absolutely no fuckin' idea what else he passed on to the Russians or anyone else - or what he will eventually leak. At this point, if you've already passed judgement on him, you are a fool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. We (the public) have absolutely no fuckin' idea what else he passed on to the Russians or anyone else - or what he will eventually leak. At this point, if you've already passed judgement on him, you are a fool. We know that he released information to the media about our intelligence operations in foreign countries, information that had nothing to do with domestic spying. Unless you're proposing that he somehow kept that publicly released information out of the hands of the Russians, it's possible to say with 100 percent certainty that he passed info on our legitimate spy operations to them, and therefore possible to judge him without being foolish. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 4:47:38 AM EDT
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Russia's not a human rights paradise, eh? Impossible! I have been told multiple times on here that Russia is now a better nation than the US. 
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Posted: 10/6/2015 5:01:59 AM EDT
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Impossible! I have been told multiple times on here that Russia is now a better nation than the US. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia's not a human rights paradise, eh? Impossible! I have been told multiple times on here that Russia is now a better nation than the US. Well, since that's where Mr human rights and governmental spying exposer went, you'd think maybe he thought they were better than us. I wonder if he's learned first hand exactly how NOT FUCKING TRUE that is... It might be interesting in about a decade or so to find out exactly what happened to him in Russia. I doubt he's having all that great of a time there. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 9:52:09 AM EDT
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We will never know the truth. The only truth I know is fuck the fed gov. Bunch of commie fucktards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Agreed, but he also leaked stuff about us spying on foreigners and foreign countries, which is a shitty thing to do, and he probably should be executed for it. Shake his hand, give him a medal, then execute him, I suppose. We (the public) have absolutely no fuckin' idea what else he passed on to the Russians or anyone else - or what he will eventually leak. At this point, if you've already passed judgement on him, you are a fool. We will never know the truth. The only truth I know is fuck the fed gov. Bunch of commie fucktards. A hatred of the fed gov. drove Timothy McVeigh to murder 168 Americans. Does that make him a hero, too? |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:03:38 AM EDT
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Well, since that's where Mr human rights and governmental spying exposer went, you'd think maybe he thought they were better than us. I wonder if he's learned first hand exactly how NOT FUCKING TRUE that is... It might be interesting in about a decade or so to find out exactly what happened to him in Russia. I doubt he's having all that great of a time there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia's not a human rights paradise, eh? Impossible! I have been told multiple times on here that Russia is now a better nation than the US. Well, since that's where Mr human rights and governmental spying exposer went, you'd think maybe he thought they were better than us. I wonder if he's learned first hand exactly how NOT FUCKING TRUE that is... It might be interesting in about a decade or so to find out exactly what happened to him in Russia. I doubt he's having all that great of a time there. He may have found it is hard to be a special snowflake in a country where it pretty much never stops snowing. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:05:49 AM EDT
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Concur with Patchouli. Restore the republic!
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:07:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:10:13 AM EDT
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The thing is did he really change anything?
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:10:55 AM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:11:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:14:42 AM EDT
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Russia's not a human rights paradise, eh? That's shocking. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:15:05 AM EDT
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We need more Snowdens and less government stooges. There I said it. Government keeps too many secrets. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:17:15 AM EDT
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I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. Nailed it. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:17:16 AM EDT
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We (the public) have absolutely no fuckin' idea what else he passed on to the Russians or anyone else - or what he will eventually leak. At this point, if you've already passed judgement on him, you are a fool. That tends to happen when the government keeps everything secret. Which is kind of the whole problem here. What we DO know is that our own government secretly engaged in systematic, suspicionless, mass surveillance of US. We KNOW they are fucking dirtbags of the highest order. Snowden is at worst an unknown. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:19:16 AM EDT
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I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. All of which is utterly dwarfed by the massive and almost unfathomably repugnant actions of the government, that he exposed. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. That would have gone NOWHERE, and you know it. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:19:41 AM EDT
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I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. You're not wrong. Prepare to be dogpiled, called a .gov troll, and accused of being a freedom hater. 
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:22:16 AM EDT
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You're not wrong. Prepare to be dogpiled, called a .gov troll, and accused of being a freedom hater. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. You're not wrong. Prepare to be dogpiled, called a .gov troll, and accused of being a freedom hater. That is how it works around here. I just use these threads to populate my ignore list mostly. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:22:48 AM EDT
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"Secrecy is always the lynchpin of abuses of power" - Glenn Greenwald
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:23:13 AM EDT
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That is how it works around here. I just use these threads to populate my ignore list mostly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. You're not wrong. Prepare to be dogpiled, called a .gov troll, and accused of being a freedom hater. That is how it works around here. I just use these threads to populate my ignore list mostly. If the boot fits.... |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:23:40 AM EDT
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The thing is did he really change anything? Well I guess he confirmed some suspicions. 
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:23:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The thing is did he really change anything? He didn't change shit. The only thing he accomplished was giving the Russkies a shitload of information on US intelligence. Fuck him. Enjoy your borscht mother fucker. If he hadn't gone to the Russians then I would say give him 5 years in Club Fed and then forget the whole thing. But if you sell out to the Russians then you can rot in Siberia for all I care. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:25:31 AM EDT
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The thing is did he really change anything? Well we don't REALLY know, but Congress did revoke the authority for at least one of the NSA mass collection programs. Whether they have stopped or will stop is something we don't know, because 'turrism and 'Merica and stuff. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:26:49 AM EDT
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He didn't change shit. The only thing he accomplished was giving the Russkies a shitload of information on US intelligence. People who don't like Snowden keep saying this, and yet I have not seen a single credible source for this claim. Unless you're just talking about the general stuff that he gave to EVERYONE by handing it over to the media. But that's not the same thing as "giving it to the Russkies." |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:26:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the boot fits.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. You're not wrong. Prepare to be dogpiled, called a .gov troll, and accused of being a freedom hater. That is how it works around here. I just use these threads to populate my ignore list mostly. If the boot fits.... |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:26:57 AM EDT
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. I have to disagree. He obtained his information by manipulating other people out of their user names and passwords, then accessing everything they had authorization and need to know for. Then he downloaded everything he could and stole it. He illegally compromised over 30 accounts to obtain the massive amount of information he stole. His actions are those of a foreign collector or someone who wants to steal the data for personal gain. I would feel differently if he was read on to a program, had ethical issues with the program, reported it through the approved FWAC channels and when nothing was done, went public with some information regarding a specific illegal activity of the .gov. That's not what he did. You're not wrong. Prepare to be dogpiled, called a .gov troll, and accused of being a freedom hater. That is how it works around here. I just use these threads to populate my ignore list mostly. If the boot fits.... Oh look, another one. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:27:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia's not a human rights paradise, eh? |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:28:00 AM EDT
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Russia's not a human rights paradise, eh? He went there first, remember? |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:28:08 AM EDT
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Snitches get stitches! LOL Yeap. Whistleblowers always suffer. Holder's DOJ is famous for it. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:28:17 AM EDT
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. From what I actually know, I agree with the quote above. Hopefully he can come back after 2016 and get a fair trial. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:29:14 AM EDT
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From what I actually know, I agree with the quote above. Hopefully he can come back after 2016 and get a fair trial. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still feel he made the right call. He's a brave dude despite his appearance, that would take some serious fucking sack to come out with. From what I actually know, I agree with the quote above. Hopefully he can come back after 2016 and get a fair trial. 
He'll get a fair trial all right. If Russia were to ever let him go, which I find highly unlikely, unless they've already wrung every bit of information they can out of him. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:30:03 AM EDT
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BTW, for you military guys who agree with him and think what he did was right, why don't you just do the right thing and go in tomorrow and tell your security manager you need to have your clearance revoked.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:30:47 AM EDT
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People who don't like Snowden keep saying this, and yet I have not seen a single credible source for this claim. Unless you're just talking about the general stuff that he gave to EVERYONE by handing it over to the media. But that's not the same thing as "giving it to the Russkies." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He didn't change shit. The only thing he accomplished was giving the Russkies a shitload of information on US intelligence. People who don't like Snowden keep saying this, and yet I have not seen a single credible source for this claim. Unless you're just talking about the general stuff that he gave to EVERYONE by handing it over to the media. But that's not the same thing as "giving it to the Russkies." Why did he turn over his four hard drives to the Russians? Only to gain asylum? Or to give them classified information also? |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:32:06 AM EDT
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Oh look, another one. Sooo edgy! |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:32:24 AM EDT
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Why did he turn over his four hard drives to the Russians? Only to gain asylum? Or to give them classified information also? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He didn't change shit. The only thing he accomplished was giving the Russkies a shitload of information on US intelligence. People who don't like Snowden keep saying this, and yet I have not seen a single credible source for this claim. Unless you're just talking about the general stuff that he gave to EVERYONE by handing it over to the media. But that's not the same thing as "giving it to the Russkies." Why did he turn over his four hard drives to the Russians? Only to gain asylum? Or to give them classified information also? We have no idea what he did or did not turn over. However, there's only one way they grant him asylum, and that's if he talks. So he can claim he didn't tell them anything all day long, nobody fucking believes him. Traitors don't have any credibility anywhere with anyone except the willfully ignorant. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:32:45 AM EDT
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Why did he turn over his four hard drives to the Russians? Only to gain asylum? Or to give them classified information also? Source? |
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