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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:25:50 AM EDT
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Can be had at home depot for around $20
Fill with concrete grab a buddy and crack open some doors! 
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:28:41 AM EDT
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So i want a breaching tool. Suggestions and post up the pics. Why do i want it? because merica that's why OP: Check out http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/653892_FDNY_Forcible_Entry_Reference_Guide__PDF_.html There is a PDF on breaching and a tidbit of more info... |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:09:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryGrenades work, but they are kind of messy. 
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:16:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:23:03 AM EDT
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Chief Halligan's tool is best forcible entry tool.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:30:02 AM EDT
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Halligan + flat head axe will get you anywhere you need to go. I have the 8lb Fire Axe with the fiberglass handle. It's a beast.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 12:28:03 PM EDT
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What would be the best to have in your trunk in case you needed to perform an emergency vehicle extraction? A while back a wreck in which the driver burned was discussed and someone here, presumably a first responder posted a pic of his trunk kit which included a bar/tool of some sort that he kept for that purpose.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:07:02 PM EDT
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What would be the best to have in your trunk in case you needed to perform an emergency vehicle extraction? A while back a wreck in which the driver burned was discussed and someone here, presumably a first responder posted a pic of his trunk kit which included a bar/tool of some sort that he kept for that purpose. Maybe a set of irons, but it's unlikely that a one-man operation would be able to get someone out of a burning car without hurst tools if they are really pinned. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:09:07 PM EDT
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For my front door, this is all you need.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:10:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:14:32 PM EDT
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You can knock in most residential doors with a boot But a lockpick should always be the first tool. Firefighters use axes and haligans because they can and being an asshole is fun. But a haligan is the best fast choice for any door that isn't pinned on multiple axis and doesn't have a reinforced frame. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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you can defeat a lot of doors with a pair of vice-grips. You can knock in most residential doors with a boot But a lockpick should always be the first tool. Firefighters use axes and haligans because they can and being an asshole is fun. But a haligan is the best fast choice for any door that isn't pinned on multiple axis and doesn't have a reinforced frame. Halligan is the best for reinforced doors. Ok then a k12 |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:51:25 PM EDT
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Really impressive what a set of irons and a roofmans hook can do to a reinforced door. You would wear yourself out with a sledge on something like this.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:56:57 PM EDT
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Needs moar pole.
I vote KillDozer. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 3:54:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe a set of irons, but it's unlikely that a one-man operation would be able to get someone out of a burning car without hurst tools if they are really pinned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What would be the best to have in your trunk in case you needed to perform an emergency vehicle extraction? A while back a wreck in which the driver burned was discussed and someone here, presumably a first responder posted a pic of his trunk kit which included a bar/tool of some sort that he kept for that purpose. Maybe a set of irons, but it's unlikely that a one-man operation would be able to get someone out of a burning car without hurst tools if they are really pinned. Not something for rescuing a pinned occupant. More along the lines of popping open a crushed/jammed door. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:40:26 PM EDT
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Not something for rescuing a pinned occupant. More along the lines of popping open a crushed/jammed door. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What would be the best to have in your trunk in case you needed to perform an emergency vehicle extraction? A while back a wreck in which the driver burned was discussed and someone here, presumably a first responder posted a pic of his trunk kit which included a bar/tool of some sort that he kept for that purpose. Maybe a set of irons, but it's unlikely that a one-man operation would be able to get someone out of a burning car without hurst tools if they are really pinned. Not something for rescuing a pinned occupant. More along the lines of popping open a crushed/jammed door. Without a lot of luck, it ain't going to happen. If they aren't pinned, you may be able to pull them out via the window or one of the other doors, but car doors don't usually pry open like house doors, even when they aren't crushed. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:43:42 PM EDT
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Not something for rescuing a pinned occupant. More along the lines of popping open a crushed/jammed door. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What would be the best to have in your trunk in case you needed to perform an emergency vehicle extraction? A while back a wreck in which the driver burned was discussed and someone here, presumably a first responder posted a pic of his trunk kit which included a bar/tool of some sort that he kept for that purpose. Maybe a set of irons, but it's unlikely that a one-man operation would be able to get someone out of a burning car without hurst tools if they are really pinned. Not something for rescuing a pinned occupant. More along the lines of popping open a crushed/jammed door. Still better off going through a window. Door pins and hinges are no joke. While I have forced a car door (in training) with a halligan, a car fire is going to move way too fast for it to be an option. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:54:02 PM EDT
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Can be had at home depot for around $20 Fill with concrete grab a buddy and crack open some doors! http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/45/45f536f7-5c9b-4aa0-a88d-3d299bafe2ab_400.jpg I don't think the concrete is really necessary, but this is also the first thing I thought of. 
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:30:59 PM EDT
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OP: Check out http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/653892_FDNY_Forcible_Entry_Reference_Guide__PDF_.html There is a PDF on breaching and a tidbit of more info... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So i want a breaching tool. Suggestions and post up the pics. Why do i want it? because merica that's why OP: Check out http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/653892_FDNY_Forcible_Entry_Reference_Guide__PDF_.html There is a PDF on breaching and a tidbit of more info... The pdf link doesn't seem to be working. Here is a direct link I found: FDNY Forcible Entry Guide Now I want a Halligan Tool + 8 lb Flathead Axe.  Seriously, it looks like a good combo for SHTF.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 11:42:25 AM EDT
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The FDNY guide is awesome. I have a copy at work for our "Commander's Choice" training days and one on my kindle.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 11:50:00 AM EDT
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Can be had at home depot for around $20 Fill with concrete grab a buddy and crack open some doors! http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/45/45f536f7-5c9b-4aa0-a88d-3d299bafe2ab_400.jpg I have one of those. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 11:54:37 AM EDT
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So, for you halligan folks, does it matter which brand? http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Alyson-Hannigan-alyson-hannigan-202164_1280_1920.jpg This one time, at totally-fucking-wreck-shit camp... |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 11:58:48 AM EDT
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Already have a splitting maul for firewood, that would take care of most doors in a disaster situation. Add to that a Norwegian fireman's axe, should cover anything I might ever have to do.
Just need more practice swinging that maul, love splitting wood, but it tells me if I am as fit as I would like to be. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 12:50:23 PM EDT
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hydra ram not as good as a set of irons though
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:01:25 PM EDT
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I have one of those. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can be had at home depot for around $20 Fill with concrete grab a buddy and crack open some doors! http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/45/45f536f7-5c9b-4aa0-a88d-3d299bafe2ab_400.jpg I have one of those. Me too. But it's not filled with concrete because I need it to actually drive posts. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:07:25 PM EDT
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M242 Bushmaster 25mm cannon is what you seek, OP. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/accp/in0759/fig1-18.gif https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/M242-1.jpg New screen background loaded.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:09:30 PM EDT
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I don't think the concrete is really necessary, but this is also the first thing I thought of. http://i.imgur.com/oZsKOKv.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can be had at home depot for around $20 Fill with concrete grab a buddy and crack open some doors! http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/45/45f536f7-5c9b-4aa0-a88d-3d299bafe2ab_400.jpg I don't think the concrete is really necessary, but this is also the first thing I thought of. http://i.imgur.com/oZsKOKv.png They work really well. Get the heavier ones, not the little light garden post versions. you can also use the to knock holes in cinderblock walls. 
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:12:31 PM EDT
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I just got one of these on sale. Even the GF was impressed.
http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-FatMax-Xtreme-55-120-FuBar/dp/B000VSSG3O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444410657&sr=8-1&keywords=stanley+fatmax+fubar |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:17:27 PM EDT
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Who remember the "polish penetrator" from the movie SWAT.
DO NOT google polish penetrator like I just did at work
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:18:49 PM EDT
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http://www.firehooksunlimited.net/images/wide-adz-pro-bar/wide_adz_probar_002.jpg There is no known method of modern construction that cannot be defeated by the proper application of a Halligan Bar - Tom Brennan, Captain, FDNY Quote HistoryQuoted:
http://www.firehooksunlimited.net/images/wide-adz-pro-bar/wide_adz_probar_002.jpg There is no known method of modern construction that cannot be defeated by the proper application of a Halligan Bar - Tom Brennan, Captain, FDNY Quoted:
Things may be quicker like c4, killdozer or brodozers but this is hard to beat to get into just about anything http://www.highrisefirefighting.co.uk/images/irons.jpg Depends on the the type of building construction in your area. Our irons man carried a Halligan and a maul, not an axe. Quoted:
Really impressive what a set of irons and a roofmans hook can do to a reinforced door. You would wear yourself out with a sledge on something like this.  http://youtu.be/B2AIQSkbUzoAnyone can take a door with help from someone else. Roofman's gotta be able to do it by himself. 
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:25:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:30:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:49:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:40:00 AM EDT
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What's the proper length of a halligan?
I think I'm going to go with a halligan + FUBAR III. May throw in a fire ax as well. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:25:39 PM EDT
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What's the proper length of a halligan? The longer it is, the more leverage you'll have. If you're not carrying it around all the time, the extra weight isn't as much of a consideration. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:29:45 PM EDT
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Quote Historyplus a sledge hammer. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:04:55 PM EDT
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The longer it is, the more leverage you'll have. If you're not carrying it around all the time, the extra weight isn't as much of a consideration. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the proper length of a halligan? The longer it is, the more leverage you'll have. If you're not carrying it around all the time, the extra weight isn't as much of a consideration. IIRC 30" is the "standard" - as much as there is one, and that's based on door and hallway widths as well as mating with a flathead axe. The 18" ones are toys unless they're thought-the-lock tools. The 48" ones are great for working only outside where you've got swing room. We have a tool I saw in an old fire equipment catalog called the Hayward Lock Breaker (more recently called the "Hayward Claw Tool"). The fork end is where the 2nd generation of Halligans got their design from... the other end is a huge-ass pointed shepard's hook. The idea was that you could put it into a hasp and just lift the bar and break the lock. It's close to 4" long. This is a modern interpretation of it - ours has a much more rounded hook: 
I see another version made it into the scale replicas market: 
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