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Posted: 10/1/2015 10:47:22 PM EDT
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This is what keeps bringing me back to Arfcom. Where else do people who should be bagging groceries mock the mind of Steven Hawking without a trace of irony? 
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Posted: 10/1/2015 10:47:58 PM EDT
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Where did he get his degree in alienology from again? And where does one publish a peer reviewed article on alien invasions, anyways? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is what keeps bringing me back to Arfcom. Where else do people who should be bagging groceries mock the mind of Steven Hawking without a trace of irony? Where did he get his degree in alienology from again? And where does one publish a peer reviewed article on alien invasions, anyways? History Channel Uni. . . |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 10:48:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2015 10:49:17 PM EDT
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Why does anyone listen to anything that guys says/types/drools? It's the Gee, Mr. Wizard, You're Wonderful Effect - People who are brilliant/smart/moderately competent in one field tend to think that they're also brilliant/smart/moderately competent in every other field. Hollywood is full of 'em. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 10:52:48 PM EDT
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? That's probably what the roaches in my barn were thinking... |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 10:56:58 PM EDT
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I'm thinking we find a hot-shot, cocky pilot laden with one-liners that is black and a Jewish computer-expert working well under his potential to fly a capture alien fighter and plant a virus in their mothership before we nuke it anyway. This sounds racist.
I think Judd Hirsch's performance in Independence Day was the most awful overacted role I have ever seen. Israel should have nuked the U.S. out of every principle. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:01:38 PM EDT
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Why does anyone listen to anything that guys says/types/drools? Because he is incredibly smart and a leader in his field. That was a stupid question. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:03:21 PM EDT
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Or nomads from ME.
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:09:19 PM EDT
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? There have been literally thousands of posts on arfcom about how much enjoyment people get out of killing animals. Humans dont need a reason to kill things, it gets them hard. A more aggressive species than us? Yeah... They dont need a reason. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:11:43 PM EDT
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It's the Gee, Mr. Wizard, You're Wonderful Effect - People who are brilliant/smart/moderately competent in one field tend to think that they're also brilliant/smart/moderately competent in every other field. Hollywood is full of 'em. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why does anyone listen to anything that guys says/types/drools? It's the Gee, Mr. Wizard, You're Wonderful Effect - People who are brilliant/smart/moderately competent in one field tend to think that they're also brilliant/smart/moderately competent in every other field. Hollywood is full of 'em. Engineering is full of 'em, too. They might be brilliant at math or writing software, but are complete morons in other areas, completely incapable of problem solving or "thinking outside the box". But don't take that as a slam on all engineers. I've known some who were very smart in many fields. I'm just saying that there are plenty who aren't. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:15:54 PM EDT
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Eh, nobody seems to be able to repel terrestrial aliens, so we're pretty much fucked when it comes to the ET's. Do you even War of the Worlds Bro |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:16:27 PM EDT
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Time to neckbeard ray guns
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:17:36 PM EDT
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More likely the Aliens will cancel our show: Earth the #1 reality show in the galaxy
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:26:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in the slightest bit. This "announcement" is Exhibit "A". "Nomadic aliens might destroy us". How brilliant is that? Jeez, know what? We might not get destroyed by aliens.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why does anyone listen to anything that guys says/types/drools? Please be joking. Not in the slightest bit. This "announcement" is Exhibit "A". "Nomadic aliens might destroy us". How brilliant is that? Jeez, know what? We might not get destroyed by aliens. For all we know, Hawking's computer is actually self-aware, and he hasn't really "said" a word in decades. Poor guy, I think he's gone around the bend.  |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:27:23 PM EDT
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Because he is incredibly smart and a leader in his field. That was a stupid question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why does anyone listen to anything that guys says/types/drools? Because he is incredibly smart and a leader in his field. That was a stupid question. Is his field alien invasion research? If not, you gave an incredibly stupid answer there fella. I bet you feel smart. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:43:09 PM EDT
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Is his field alien invasion research? If not, you gave an incredibly stupid answer there fella. I bet you feel smart. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why does anyone listen to anything that guys says/types/drools? Because he is incredibly smart and a leader in his field. That was a stupid question. Is his field alien invasion research? If not, you gave an incredibly stupid answer there fella. I bet you feel smart. You're really this ignorant of his field of expertise? Theoretical physics and cosmology. He's the Director of Research of theoretical cosmology at Cambridge. I dont feel smart for knowing he's going to be one of the most qualified people on earth to comment on topics within the realm of cosmology. I simply just dont feel like I'm retarded for not knowing a cosmologist is qualified to talk about this kind of stuff. Just like I wouldnt feel smart for point out that a mechanical engineer is qualified to comment on dynamic load stresses on an I-beam. I'd just be glad I'm not retarded enough to think an ME couldnt talk about dynamics. Just how I'd personally feel... This isnt Bill Nye trying to comment on biology/abortion... |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 11:51:34 PM EDT
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This Let's take human morality out of it. IF an alien species is intelligent enough to get here, they don't need our resources. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? This Let's take human morality out of it. IF an alien species is intelligent enough to get here, they don't need our resources. Shhh! |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 12:06:02 AM EDT
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I think the likelyhood of first contact with a Ferengi-style supercapitalist alien civilization is more likely. They offer us greater technology for a steep price which we certainly would pay. We would likely be seen as easy profit.
The Borg never assimilated the Kazon because they saw them as not worthwhile. I think, at this point, that is where we are. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:14:20 AM EDT
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The arrogance of the belief that we are the only beings in the universe astounds me. The sheer size alone means that there has to be other intelligent life out there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter We haven't even traveled outside of our own solar system. Our solar system is just a small part of the Milkey Way Galaxy. There are tons and tons of galaxies in the known universe. We don't even know the full extent of the size of the universe we live in. It's very likely that our Universe is many times more large that we even know about. If you don't think there is more intelligent life out there, then I feel there is no hope for you. Hell, we even found a moon that can support life in our own solar system. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:34:23 AM EDT
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This Let's take human morality out of it. IF an alien species is intelligent enough to get here, they don't need our resources. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? This Let's take human morality out of it. IF an alien species is intelligent enough to get here, they don't need our resources. They don't need our resources but they need to syphon the dark energy from the black hole which is theorized to exist in the center of every galaxy and by doing do would send our galaxy into a hyper collapse. So the space cops military federation or whatever the fuck for some ridiculous reason decides to team up with earth people to for fight the evil aliens.... |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:35:23 AM EDT
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One can hope...
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:40:33 AM EDT
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GD is hilarious.
"Fuck that science man. He don't know shit about nothin". |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:41:39 AM EDT
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GD is hilarious. "Fuck that science man. He don't know shit about nothin". It makes the religion and climate change threads interesting. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:55:57 AM EDT
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Stephen Hawking says nomadic aliens might crush us Many of Stephen Hawking's recent pronouncements have been slightly dire.
He worries about artificial intelligence. We evolve so slowly that it could simply stomp us out, he said last year. But there are other threats. In an interview with Spain's El Pais, the world-renowned physicist said he feared aliens might destroy us. He said it might be worse that when Columbus turned up in the Americas. "Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they can reach," Hawking told El Pais. "To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. I am thinking they will be so advanced they won't have any idea how to protect themselves from primitive weapons like a bullet. They would likely be advanced enough they would not need to fight us themselves. Just release some manner of super virus of nano machines programmed to deconstruct human cellular structure and enjoy your new unpopulated planet without firing a shot. If a species has mastered interstellar travel we are not going to be any kind of threat to them at all. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 2:00:55 AM EDT
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Pffft. Nomads. They're big space pussies getting pushed around by more warlike aliens. When they land here they'll be happy to know that we're open to dialog and trade despite being warlike. Then they'll come up with a plan to combine our ability to wage war and their advanced science and tech. Eventually, will lock the space nerds in the lab and take over the universe.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 2:01:25 AM EDT
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Poor social skills doesn't mean he's an idiot. He's making a good point. Many academics and among the political classes assume that "more advanced" = "enlightened in a liberal manner". That is what Obama thinks when he talks about being on the right side of history; the idea that the well behaved will prevail. It is a huge ass assumption and Hawking is deflating it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've said it before. He's an idiot. Have you ever met a really smart mathematician? Zero social skills and can't grasp reality. My neighbor is a college professor of mathematics. Socially awkward and can't grasp many social norms. For some reason because this guys drools from the side of his mouth and talks with a speak and spell people regard him as a god. If he was the same as my neighbor people would ignore him.....kinda like we ignore my neighbor when we're out "in the hood" sharing an evening dink. Poor social skills doesn't mean he's an idiot. He's making a good point. Many academics and among the political classes assume that "more advanced" = "enlightened in a liberal manner". That is what Obama thinks when he talks about being on the right side of history; the idea that the well behaved will prevail. It is a huge ass assumption and Hawking is deflating it. If history were to once again repeat itself such a meeting would be bad. Throughout human history when two civilizations meet the lesser advanced of the two always ends up conquered or destroyed. No reason to assume such a scenario would play out any differently. I don't think were alone in the universe but I'm happy to stay lonely. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 2:09:43 AM EDT
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We'd have it coming to us. The OP really needs anal probing. He knows the most. At least that's what Ive been told.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 2:11:41 AM EDT
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? Minerals. Unlikely. Nothing on Earth is rare in the grand scheme of things. Far more minerals in the asteroid belt than here. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 2:17:35 AM EDT
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We haven't even traveled outside of our own solar system. Our solar system is just a small part of the Milkey Way Galaxy. There are tons and tons of galaxies in the known universe. We don't even know the full extent of the size of the universe we live in. It's very likely that our Universe is many times more large that we even know about. If you don't think there is more intelligent life out there, then I feel there is no hope for you. Hell, we even found a moon that can support life in our own solar system. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The arrogance of the belief that we are the only beings in the universe astounds me. The sheer size alone means that there has to be other intelligent life out there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter We haven't even traveled outside of our own solar system. Our solar system is just a small part of the Milkey Way Galaxy. There are tons and tons of galaxies in the known universe. We don't even know the full extent of the size of the universe we live in. It's very likely that our Universe is many times more large that we even know about. If you don't think there is more intelligent life out there, then I feel there is no hope for you. Hell, we even found a moon that can support life in our own solar system. I think it's foolish to assume life has to have conditions similar to Earth to thrive. Life evolved here to meet the conditions of this planet, not because of them. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:05:22 AM EDT
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This is what keeps bringing me back to Arfcom. Where else do people who should be bagging groceries mock the mind of Steven Hawking without a trace of irony? Where did he get his degree in alienology from again? And where does one publish a peer reviewed article on alien invasions, anyways? Don't put heavy stuff on top of the bread. Hey, I have two of his books on my shelf. Love them. The man has a knack for explaining things so that most anyone can understand them. But saying that he's above criticism on the topic of alien invasions is dumb. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:25:12 AM EDT
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They'd have to Battle in Los Angeles to see which theater opened it first. The Earth Might Stand Still in anticipation. I see Signs that such a film would be an Arrival of sorts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why, I bet you could make a movie about such a scenario of nomadic aliens invading earth. If someone hurried they might even be able to get into theaters before next Independence Day. They'd have to Battle in Los Angeles to see which theater opened it first. The Earth Might Stand Still in anticipation. I see Signs that such a film would be an Arrival of sorts. Maybe we could put up a sign that says Forbidden Planet. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:29:33 AM EDT
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? Why do some people expend the time and energy to deliberately squash ants? |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:33:48 AM EDT
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This Let's take human morality out of it. IF an alien species is intelligent enough to get here, they don't need our resources. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? This Let's take human morality out of it. IF an alien species is intelligent enough to get here, they don't need our resources. Maybe they just like killing things, especially races that also like killing things and may one day be a threat to them. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:41:29 AM EDT
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It makes the religion and climate change threads interesting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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GD is hilarious. "Fuck that science man. He don't know shit about nothin". It makes the religion and climate change threads interesting. GD, where the people who ridicule others for believing that the pope is infallible get mad when someone questions the inerrancy of Stephen Hawking's opinion on alien invasions. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:44:27 AM EDT
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Considering our distance from the nearest potentially habitable planet, if aliens could make it here, they would need some incredibly advanced technology. If they had the tech to warp space and time, their weapons tech is certainly going to be way out of our league. If they had the ability to warp space and time, why even come to earth while its populated with humans in the first place? Just show up here long before humans or any other life existed and have the place to yourself. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:48:05 AM EDT
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? Exactly. If you've got the technology to do interstellar travel, what do you want with Earth? Furthermore, if a race had that level of technology and power, they'd have to have a certain level of emotional empathy and compassion or they'd have blown themselves up. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:54:44 AM EDT
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Think about it like this: while we're all wrapped up in our little terrestrial lives, merrily clicking/Tweeting/bleating about how life has taken a giant dump on us, we could be focusing our energies on becoming a not only space-faring, but a star-faring race. This makes us the hegemony and ensures our species' survival by getting us off this rock, out of this solar system, and back to the pioneer spirit that humans have thus far tried to breed out of ourselves.
If a few words by everyone's favorite Dalek can inspire this, I'm fine with it. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 8:56:29 AM EDT
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Exactly. If you've got the technology to do interstellar travel, what do you want with Earth? Furthermore, if a race had that level of technology and power, they'd have to have a certain level of emotional empathy and compassion or they'd have blown themselves up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? Exactly. If you've got the technology to do interstellar travel, what do you want with Earth? Furthermore, if a race had that level of technology and power, they'd have to have a certain level of emotional empathy and compassion or they'd have blown themselves up. We've been broadcasting loud and clear in the open "we're here!" For nigh on a century now... more advanced/mobile civilizations may want to find out if they're alone in the universe. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:00:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Borg tits FTW! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I await the Borg...................... http://i0.wp.com/geekshizzle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Jeri-Ryan-Seven-of-Nine-Star-Trek-Cosplay.jpg?resize=600%2C491  Borg tits FTW! Wonder if she has metal clamps on her nipples like Janet Jackson did?? |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:02:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:02:55 AM EDT
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They're already hear and they speak Russian.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:06:31 AM EDT
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Exhibit B "Science can prove God doesn't exist" from the guy who says "Nomadic Aliens Might Destroy Us". Hawking comes across as a bitter man.  Oh, so here it is. He's an atheist, so he's just a drooling idiot. Fact is, the more education in physical and life sciences a person has, the less likely they are to believe in the supernatural. Not just God, but ghosts, bigfoot, chupacabra, all that. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:08:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've said it before. He's an idiot. Have you ever met a really smart mathematician? Zero social skills and can't grasp reality. My neighbor is a college professor of mathematics. Socially awkward and can't grasp many social norms. For some reason because this guys drools from the side of his mouth and talks with a speak and spell people regard him as a god. If he was the same as my neighbor people would ignore him.....kinda like we ignore my neighbor when we're out "in the hood" sharing an evening dink. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:11:56 AM EDT
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WHY?!!!!! Mercy? 
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:14:26 AM EDT
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Guy is pissed at the world so he makes stuff up about aliens to try and bring others down with him. He thinks blames God for his physical condition.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:16:15 AM EDT
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Why, I bet you could make a movie about such a scenario of nomadic aliens invading earth. If someone hurried they might even be able to get into theaters before next Independence Day. Hahahahaha |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:18:31 AM EDT
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Hey, I have two of his books on my shelf. Love them. The man has a knack for explaining things so that most anyone can understand them. But saying that he's above criticism on the topic of alien invasions is dumb. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is what keeps bringing me back to Arfcom. Where else do people who should be bagging groceries mock the mind of Steven Hawking without a trace of irony? Where did he get his degree in alienology from again? And where does one publish a peer reviewed article on alien invasions, anyways? Don't put heavy stuff on top of the bread. Hey, I have two of his books on my shelf. Love them. The man has a knack for explaining things so that most anyone can understand them. But saying that he's above criticism on the topic of alien invasions is dumb. Note that the original comment was "Why does anyone listen to anything that guys says/types/drools?". Not, "he's talking out of his lane", but a broad brush, "we shouldn't listen to anything from him" statement. The statement was idiotic. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:21:26 AM EDT
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We've been broadcasting loud and clear in the open "we're here!" For nigh on a century now... more advanced/mobile civilizations may want to find out if they're alone in the universe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? Exactly. If you've got the technology to do interstellar travel, what do you want with Earth? Furthermore, if a race had that level of technology and power, they'd have to have a certain level of emotional empathy and compassion or they'd have blown themselves up. We've been broadcasting loud and clear in the open "we're here!" For nigh on a century now... more advanced/mobile civilizations may want to find out if they're alone in the universe. Those broadcasts have only gone, at most, 200 light years. They're most than likely not even readable at the 100 light year point. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:22:52 AM EDT
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Why would anyone expend the time and energy to squash us? Why do some people expend the time and energy to deliberately squash ants? true story: some number of years ago I had just squashed some big bug in my path, you know, just because. and for some reason, I immediately asked myself, why did you do that? why are you such an asshole? that moment turned my life around. Now im saved, I dont kill spiders unless they are in the house or around my fences or fruit trees/vines/bushes. I even let snakes be unless they are poisonous. Started volunteering as a mentor at the local HS for kids who are getting into trouble, found an awesome wife. Life is fantastic. And bow season is about to start. Now just need to get AU to stop sucking so bad... |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 9:23:12 AM EDT
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If they had the tech to warp space and time, their weapons tech is certainly going to be way out of our league. That's a reasonable assumption. But assuming that they would bring overwhelming numbers, superior military technology and an all out motivation to win, and that their end game would be annihilation of the species or destruction of the planet, is the absolute worst case and perhaps the least likely scenario. It might be more likely that the aliens have some restrictions in how they deal with planetary invasions. They might want to breed us instead of destroying us. They might have some kind of a hunting ethos, that the prey needs to be given some off chance to escape. They might also not like getting their hands dirty at all and instead send in their slaves from other already conquered, yet way less advanced worlds and provide the invading slaves only outdated weaponry (perhaps also captured as plunder from conquered civilizations). Lots of reasonable ways we could have a chance to win or at least secure a military result that ensures long term species survival. And not all of them have to do with the worst Hollywood cliches of bullets beating particle beams, viruses beating aliens that are biologically advanced enough for long range space travel or them having a mothership with a queen or single point of failure, etc. Yes they might destroy us, but they might also save us or influence our development in some yet unimagined ways. ETA: I will also welcome our alien overlords (overmy'ladies?): 
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