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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:29:23 PM EDT
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3) Posting or linking to information on how to make illegal modifications to firearms Strictly speaking, the legality is dependent on whether or not the individual is an SOT-paying FFL. I'm assuming this has to do with MG technical info, yes? If you interpret that rule the way I think it is being interpreted, then information on how to make a rifle integrally suppressed would be a CoC violation as well, right? It is illegal by default. The exception being for those who do the paperwork that makes it legal. Not really looking for a hill to die on here. I just think it's a shame that the government has people (rightly) afraid of allowing even technical information to be shared on their web forums. 
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:30:25 PM EDT
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Well....alrighty then.
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:31:41 PM EDT
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes.
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:32:14 PM EDT
[#4]
no comment?
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:32:22 PM EDT
[#5]
OK, got it.
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:33:23 PM EDT
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:35:03 PM EDT
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. It doesn't look any different to me. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:36:45 PM EDT
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Looks like less of a change than the update to the EE rules a couple months back. And that was minimal, to say the least.
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:37:51 PM EDT
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Well....alrighty then. Are any of these new...I've never read CC 
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:37:59 PM EDT
[#10]
Why did you update the CoC?
We dindu nuffin. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:38:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:38:59 PM EDT
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6) Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response.
So I can insult a member as long as I try to elicit a positive response? ; ) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:41:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Strictly speaking, the legality is dependent on whether or not the individual is an SOT-paying FFL. I'm assuming this has to do with MG technical info, yes? If you interpret that rule the way I think it is being interpreted, then information on how to make a rifle integrally suppressed would be a CoC violation as well, right? It is illegal by default. The exception being for those who do the paperwork that makes it legal. Not really looking for a hill to die on here. I just think it's a shame that the government has people (rightly) afraid of allowing even technical information to be shared on their web forums. Quote HistoryQuoted: 3) Posting or linking to information on how to make illegal modifications to firearms Strictly speaking, the legality is dependent on whether or not the individual is an SOT-paying FFL. I'm assuming this has to do with MG technical info, yes? If you interpret that rule the way I think it is being interpreted, then information on how to make a rifle integrally suppressed would be a CoC violation as well, right? It is illegal by default. The exception being for those who do the paperwork that makes it legal. Not really looking for a hill to die on here. I just think it's a shame that the government has people (rightly) afraid of allowing even technical information to be shared on their web forums. This rule hasn't changed since I've been here  , and it hasn't led to any confusion. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:41:42 PM EDT
[#14]
No change jumped out at me.
Are there any changes? |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:42:22 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm not seeing anything I didn't already 'know' as a rule here. Can you please point out what changed?
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:42:37 PM EDT
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:43:18 PM EDT
[#17]
I'm guessing the starred item is the change.
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:44:14 PM EDT
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The part about detailed pornographic stories is new, no?
I'm gonna have to change my posting habits. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:45:05 PM EDT
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8) Posting repeat topics with similar or slightly varying titles
Someone should get their hand slapped then.
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:46:12 PM EDT
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Hey, maybe a dumb question but on: "NO GROUP BUYS OR FUNDRAISERS WITHOUT EXPRESS PERMISSION."
Does that include posts figuring out if anybody is interested in doing a group buy for something? |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:46:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Can we get a redline?
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:46:29 PM EDT
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No change jumped out at me. Are there any changes? Wondering this as well.... |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:46:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:46:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Tag for home
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:46:58 PM EDT
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:47:01 PM EDT
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8) Posting repeat topics with similar or slightly varying titles Someone should get their hand slapped then. Fuckin' Saigaman and all his FAL threads. 
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:47:05 PM EDT
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6) Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response. So I can insult a member as long as I try to elicit a positive response? ; ) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Or no response at all? After an insult just state: No need to respond. Technically rule 6 will not have been violated.
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:47:34 PM EDT
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and i was just about finished uploading a picture of my penis to GD. damn. so close. ps WHAT ARE THE CHANGES? ar-jedi |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:47:37 PM EDT
[#29]
Wow using the word Sexism.
I am Triggered. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:48:03 PM EDT
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No change jumped out at me. Are there any changes? |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:48:06 PM EDT
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If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. I don't think any of us see what's different. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:48:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey, maybe a dumb question but on: "NO GROUP BUYS OR FUNDRAISERS WITHOUT EXPRESS PERMISSION." Does that include posts figuring out if anybody is interested in doing a group buy for something? Nope, threads used to gauge interest are still OK. Just be sure to make that point clear if you create one. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:49:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The part about detailed pornographic stories is new, no? I'm gonna have to change my posting habits. Yes, that part is new. Figures you noticed that one.  |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:49:18 PM EDT
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This rule hasn't changed since I've been here , and it hasn't led to any confusion.
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3) Posting or linking to information on how to make illegal modifications to firearms Strictly speaking, the legality is dependent on whether or not the individual is an SOT-paying FFL. I'm assuming this has to do with MG technical info, yes? If you interpret that rule the way I think it is being interpreted, then information on how to make a rifle integrally suppressed would be a CoC violation as well, right? It is illegal by default. The exception being for those who do the paperwork that makes it legal. Not really looking for a hill to die on here. I just think it's a shame that the government has people (rightly) afraid of allowing even technical information to be shared on their web forums. This rule hasn't changed since I've been here , and it hasn't led to any confusion.
I know it hasn't. I was aware of it. Just taking the opportunity of a posted thread about the rules to point out how much it sucks. Even though I understand why the rule exists. Free speech is dying. Not because of this forum or the rule we're talking about, but because of the government that we both tacitly acknowledge is chilling speech. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:50:56 PM EDT
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and i was just about finished uploading a picture of my penis to GD. damn. so close. ps WHAT ARE THE CHANGES? ar-jedi You on dialup or something? Things that small usually upload fast. Too quick in a lot of cases. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:52:12 PM EDT
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If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. but...what is the change?  
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:52:17 PM EDT
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I used google cache to pull the old version.
The only thing that stands out to me is the "no pornographic stories" GENERAL GUIDELINES
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They will still be allowed, however, effective immediately they will be limited to the BOTD forum only (this forum is available to Team members only). Our mods and staff have simply had to spend too much time dealing with this issue, so this is necessary. We may review this and make further changes, but your cooperation is appreciated. Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts; this includes photos of scantily clad men or women . Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in the BOTD forum, and under the rules posted in that forum. 10) Copyrighted Material must be respected. If you wish to share an article from another site, it's important you post only a small excerpt of the content (less than 10%) with a link to the original. We will initially issue warnings, but repeat violations will result in your removal from the site. SPECIFIC PROHIBITIONS FOR TEAM MEMBERS Using improper pictures as an avatar. 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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:52:34 PM EDT
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I'll give you all some hints, but we really want everyone to be familiar with the entire CoC, not just the changes.
CoC 10 has been reworded. As pointed out, the part about pornographic stories is new. CoC 5, 6, and 7 have been altered as well. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:52:49 PM EDT
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Yes, that part is new. Figures you noticed that one.
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The part about detailed pornographic stories is new, no? I'm gonna have to change my posting habits. Yes, that part is new. Figures you noticed that one.
That was a problem before? At what point does that sort of dialogue cross the line? |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:53:19 PM EDT
[#40]
what changed?
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:53:21 PM EDT
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. ETA: I guess we'll just roll with it |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:53:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know it hasn't. I was aware of it. Just taking the opportunity of a posted thread about the rules to point out how much it sucks. Even though I understand why the rule exists. Free speech is dying. Not because of this forum or the rule we're talking about, but because of the government that we both tacitly acknowledge is chilling speech. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 3) Posting or linking to information on how to make illegal modifications to firearms Strictly speaking, the legality is dependent on whether or not the individual is an SOT-paying FFL. I'm assuming this has to do with MG technical info, yes? If you interpret that rule the way I think it is being interpreted, then information on how to make a rifle integrally suppressed would be a CoC violation as well, right? It is illegal by default. The exception being for those who do the paperwork that makes it legal. Not really looking for a hill to die on here. I just think it's a shame that the government has people (rightly) afraid of allowing even technical information to be shared on their web forums. This rule hasn't changed since I've been here , and it hasn't led to any confusion. I know it hasn't. I was aware of it. Just taking the opportunity of a posted thread about the rules to point out how much it sucks. Even though I understand why the rule exists. Free speech is dying. Not because of this forum or the rule we're talking about, but because of the government that we both tacitly acknowledge is chilling speech. I thought that the information was being shared in the NFA Forums? I don't go in there much, so I could be wrong though. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:53:57 PM EDT
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If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. Are you avoiding explicitly stating what the actual change was? |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:54:47 PM EDT
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Yes, that part is new. Figures you noticed that one.
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The part about detailed pornographic stories is new, no? I'm gonna have to change my posting habits. Yes, that part is new. Figures you noticed that one.
Any other changes? ETA: Nevermind, didn't see your newer comments. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was a problem before? At what point does that sort of dialogue cross the line? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The part about detailed pornographic stories is new, no? I'm gonna have to change my posting habits. Yes, that part is new. Figures you noticed that one. That was a problem before? At what point does that sort of dialogue cross the line? If it looks like the post should have begun with "Dear Penthouse", then it probably crosses the line. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:55:51 PM EDT
[#46]
So, we can't talk about sex anymore?
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:56:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you avoiding explicitly stating what the actual change was? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. Are you avoiding explicitly stating what the actual change was? Yes, we want people to read the entire CoC, not to just skip to the highlighted parts. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:56:33 PM EDT
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Every time I post I get negative responses.
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:56:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, we want people to read the entire CoC, not to just skip to the highlighted parts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For those that didn't have the old version memorized it might be helpful to post specifically what has changed so people don't inadvertently overlook changes. If you weren't one to cross the CoC in the past, then I doubt you'll have any problems with the updated version. There were a few minor tweaks, so the vast majority of the membership won't even notice. The only members that may have a problem, are the ones that liked to hug the line without crossing it. We just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change. Hopefully the admins will get a notification placed at the top of every page soon. Are you avoiding explicitly stating what the actual change was? Yes, we want people to read the entire CoC, not to just skip to the highlighted parts. highlight everything |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 5:59:36 PM EDT
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So I take it my story about "Poor Tim" is no longer copacetic?
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