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Posted: 10/17/2015 4:58:02 PM EDT
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None of this lawyer speak would matter if this stupid fucking law didn't exist. Don't think for a minute that they still wouldn't be dicking with you in the absence of legislation. The law doesn't mean shit anymore. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 5:45:23 PM EDT
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I'm sure we'll eventually see a YT video of the shooter being engulfed in flames from the rupture of the container inside the tube. Launching anything flammable is probably taking a statistically significant chance of 3rd degree burns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kinda expected this. But I figured someone would bubba a "soda can Molotov cocktail" and post video of it all over youtube. I'm sure we'll eventually see a YT video of the shooter being engulfed in flames from the rupture of the container inside the tube. Launching anything flammable is probably taking a statistically significant chance of 3rd degree burns. Yeah... I mean it *could* be done with a lot of work, but it's probably about the same level of effort to weaponize this as it would be to just build from scratch. Both are taking a major risk. Even if there was no NFA I wouldn't try it with this setup. I like not being on fire. |
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Posted: 11/12/2015 3:28:32 PM EDT
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Bumping this to keep it alive. Still no word.
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Posted: 11/12/2015 3:53:34 PM EDT
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. I like not being on fire. Pussy. 
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Posted: 12/13/2015 3:33:58 PM EDT
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Pussy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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. I like not being on fire. Pussy. Yeah, I am kind of a wimp about that... Bumping the thread for when the ATF finally clears up the issue with yet another letter. |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 4:02:37 PM EDT
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I want to get one of the giant marshmallows and launch it. In theory it should catch fire and burn like a comet across the night sky....then stick to something and burn like napalm.
I bet cleaning the tube would be awesome after that.  I launched a red bell pepper out of one. Instant salsa, but automatically cleaned the tube
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Posted: 12/14/2015 8:01:35 PM EDT
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Need to buy a Ghost pepper now!
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Posted: 12/14/2015 10:06:24 PM EDT
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Need to buy a Ghost pepper now! Oooooh... Maybe some 1 million Scoville Unit soda pop? |
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Posted: 12/29/2015 10:44:35 PM EDT
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Bump. X Products announced on their FB page that BATFE has mailed the official response on X Product's proposed revisions to the design. Update imminent, I imagine.
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Posted: 12/30/2015 10:39:42 PM EDT
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Bump. X Products announced on their FB page that BATFE has mailed the official response on X Product's proposed revisions to the design. Update imminent, I imagine. Cool. I don't know how I missed that. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:06:46 PM EDT
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They must not have liked the answer from BATFE, seeing as how they haven't said or released anything...
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:19:12 PM EDT
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What I really need to know is if I need to list caliber as "12 Ounce Soda" when filling out my Form 1.
Inquiring minds want to know... |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:18:16 PM EDT
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They must not have liked the answer from BATFE, seeing as how they haven't said or released anything... LOL maybe... |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 11:01:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What I really need to know is if I need to list caliber as "12 Ounce Soda" when filling out my Form 1.
Inquiring minds want to know... The worst thing that happens is it gets delayed past July, and you have to send in fingerprints. |
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Posted: 1/9/2016 5:40:24 PM EDT
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X Products has received their third response from the BATFE, the samples were not approved, however a suggestion was made. The BATFE is requesting similar samples that prevent the chambering of a commercially available Rem .223 round. The samples have been made, tested and are being shipped this week. X Products is asking for an expedited response. The requested fix is made to the existing system, so X Products will be able to exchange current models. The information will be published tonight. Weld the barrel, guys...
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Posted: 1/9/2016 6:54:57 PM EDT
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Xproducts can kiss my ass. At this point I wish they would just take the damn things back.
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Posted: 1/9/2016 8:06:37 PM EDT
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https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12509588_1018667801507861_5676185919325777974_n.jpg?oh=a493626000ab65fd0a46e7993d6561f2&oe=57402703 X Products has received their third response from the BATFE, the samples were not approved, however a suggestion was made. The BATFE is requesting similar samples that prevent the chambering of a commercially available Rem .223 round. The samples have been made, tested and are being shipped this week. X Products is asking for an expedited response. The requested fix is made to the existing system, so X Products will be able to exchange current models. The information will be published tonight. Weld the barrel, guys... when I talked with the owner at the SAR show in December, he said that the sample sent in had the end of the "barrel" welded so a projectile could not exit the barrel, but it would allow for a standard round to chamber and fire, but the bullet wouldnt' leave the barrel. it sounds like that sample was rejected and now they want the barrel to not even allow for a projectile-equipped casing to be chambered. |
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Posted: 1/10/2016 12:08:44 AM EDT
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XProducts is really in a bind here. I can't see how they're going to engineer a barrel that can chamber a standard M200 blank without also being able to chamber a live round.
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Posted: 1/10/2016 1:07:22 AM EDT
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when I talked with the owner at the SAR show in December, he said that the sample sent in had the end of the "barrel" welded so a projectile could not exit the barrel, but it would allow for a standard round to chamber and fire, but the bullet wouldnt' leave the barrel. it sounds like that sample was rejected and now they want the barrel to not even allow for a projectile-equipped casing to be chambered. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12509588_1018667801507861_5676185919325777974_n.jpg?oh=a493626000ab65fd0a46e7993d6561f2&oe=57402703 X Products has received their third response from the BATFE, the samples were not approved, however a suggestion was made. The BATFE is requesting similar samples that prevent the chambering of a commercially available Rem .223 round. The samples have been made, tested and are being shipped this week. X Products is asking for an expedited response. The requested fix is made to the existing system, so X Products will be able to exchange current models. The information will be published tonight. Weld the barrel, guys... when I talked with the owner at the SAR show in December, he said that the sample sent in had the end of the "barrel" welded so a projectile could not exit the barrel, but it would allow for a standard round to chamber and fire, but the bullet wouldnt' leave the barrel. it sounds like that sample was rejected and now they want the barrel to not even allow for a projectile-equipped casing to be chambered. That goes against pretty much everything Ridgeline was saying earlier about their movie blank guns. |
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Posted: 1/10/2016 1:09:16 AM EDT
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XProducts is really in a bind here. I can't see how they're going to engineer a barrel that can chamber a standard M200 blank without also being able to chamber a live round. Have them bored to .17" for the bore and chambered for 5.56 |
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Posted: 1/10/2016 1:16:59 AM EDT
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That goes against pretty much everything Ridgeline was saying earlier about their movie blank guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12509588_1018667801507861_5676185919325777974_n.jpg?oh=a493626000ab65fd0a46e7993d6561f2&oe=57402703 X Products has received their third response from the BATFE, the samples were not approved, however a suggestion was made. The BATFE is requesting similar samples that prevent the chambering of a commercially available Rem .223 round. The samples have been made, tested and are being shipped this week. X Products is asking for an expedited response. The requested fix is made to the existing system, so X Products will be able to exchange current models. The information will be published tonight. Weld the barrel, guys... when I talked with the owner at the SAR show in December, he said that the sample sent in had the end of the "barrel" welded so a projectile could not exit the barrel, but it would allow for a standard round to chamber and fire, but the bullet wouldnt' leave the barrel. it sounds like that sample was rejected and now they want the barrel to not even allow for a projectile-equipped casing to be chambered. That goes against pretty much everything Ridgeline was saying earlier about their movie blank guns. You are making the mistake of assuming that the same rules apply to everyone. |
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Posted: 1/10/2016 2:14:39 AM EDT
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Leave it up to the ATF to suck the fun out of anything designed for...fun. Last I heard the problem was it COULD chamber a live round, you know cause everyone wants a single shot SBR you have to manually cycle
 stupid, just fucking stupid.
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Posted: 1/10/2016 4:32:52 PM EDT
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That goes against pretty much everything Ridgeline was saying earlier about their movie blank guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12509588_1018667801507861_5676185919325777974_n.jpg?oh=a493626000ab65fd0a46e7993d6561f2&oe=57402703 X Products has received their third response from the BATFE, the samples were not approved, however a suggestion was made. The BATFE is requesting similar samples that prevent the chambering of a commercially available Rem .223 round. The samples have been made, tested and are being shipped this week. X Products is asking for an expedited response. The requested fix is made to the existing system, so X Products will be able to exchange current models. The information will be published tonight. Weld the barrel, guys... when I talked with the owner at the SAR show in December, he said that the sample sent in had the end of the "barrel" welded so a projectile could not exit the barrel, but it would allow for a standard round to chamber and fire, but the bullet wouldnt' leave the barrel. it sounds like that sample was rejected and now they want the barrel to not even allow for a projectile-equipped casing to be chambered. That goes against pretty much everything Ridgeline was saying earlier about their movie blank guns. 100% yes, and 100% no. 
Some "guns" use semi-custom rounds that aren't as custom as it is lead to believe. Many use reduced diameter bores with standard rounds or custom rounds. Either the BATFE is being stupid on this one or X Products is not presenting this to them the right way. |
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Posted: 1/10/2016 5:28:23 PM EDT
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100% yes, and 100% no.
Some "guns" use semi-custom rounds that aren't as custom as it is lead to believe. Many use reduced diameter bores with standard rounds or custom rounds. Either the BATFE is being stupid on this one or X Products is not presenting this to them the right way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12509588_1018667801507861_5676185919325777974_n.jpg?oh=a493626000ab65fd0a46e7993d6561f2&oe=57402703 X Products has received their third response from the BATFE, the samples were not approved, however a suggestion was made. The BATFE is requesting similar samples that prevent the chambering of a commercially available Rem .223 round. The samples have been made, tested and are being shipped this week. X Products is asking for an expedited response. The requested fix is made to the existing system, so X Products will be able to exchange current models. The information will be published tonight. Weld the barrel, guys... when I talked with the owner at the SAR show in December, he said that the sample sent in had the end of the "barrel" welded so a projectile could not exit the barrel, but it would allow for a standard round to chamber and fire, but the bullet wouldnt' leave the barrel. it sounds like that sample was rejected and now they want the barrel to not even allow for a projectile-equipped casing to be chambered. That goes against pretty much everything Ridgeline was saying earlier about their movie blank guns. 100% yes, and 100% no.
Some "guns" use semi-custom rounds that aren't as custom as it is lead to believe. Many use reduced diameter bores with standard rounds or custom rounds. Either the BATFE is being stupid on this one or X Products is not presenting this to them the right way. I'm thinking a steel pin drilled right through the throat area and welded in place should be enough. I may try it for shits n giggles, or should i worry about "sploding? |
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