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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:04:11 PM EDT
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Derp.
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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:15:27 PM EDT
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There is no law passed by the federal congress changing the definition of marriage. Neither was a law passed by the state of KY to change the definition.
All we got ("all"...) was a supreme court case that determined that the 14th amendment - beyond all probability, was really all along about allowing future generations to change the definition of "marriage" to suit their fluid, changing understanding of the same term....the 10th amendment notwithstanding. But the clerk swore an oath to uphold the constitution of the US and KY before this SCOTUS case was conjured out of whole cloth. Changing the terms and definition and meaning of a Constitutional amendment beyond anything the drafters and voters of that amendment would have wanted, cannot stand. So her invoking religion notwithstanding, her case is actually stronger from a strictly legal basis. How can any court ex post facto change the terms of a contract like this? It would be like us declaring that "the people" means only corporations and so presto chango only corporations have bill of right protections and not individuals. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:16:56 PM EDT
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Derp. Moby. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:20:43 PM EDT
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You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home"
She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:34:33 PM EDT
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You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:49:29 PM EDT
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The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? county clerk is usually an ELECTED position. elected officials can not be fired |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:51:22 PM EDT
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You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? county clerk is usually an ELECTED position. elected officials can not be fired The county clerk is using civil disobedience as a political weapon. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 12:29:50 AM EDT
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You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? county clerk is usually an ELECTED position. elected officials can not be fired The county clerk is using civil disobedience as a political weapon. She claims it is a religious battle and not political. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 12:34:26 AM EDT
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You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. Tell that to Desmond Doss. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 12:35:59 AM EDT
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You guys are getting a lot of mileage out of this crackpot democrat. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 12:37:51 AM EDT
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county clerk is usually an ELECTED position. elected officials can not be fired Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? county clerk is usually an ELECTED position. elected officials can not be fired That's correct and Kentucky doesn't allow the recall of the county clerk according to the Boston Globe. She can be impeached though. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 12:40:45 AM EDT
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As mentioned above, she's an elected official. I'm guessing there's no groundswell of support to have her recalled or impeached.
Personally I think she should resign. But I understand her position. She seems to see herself as a martyr and perhaps she is. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 1:55:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Derp. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 1:56:44 AM EDT
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Conscientious Objection is valid during periods of conscription.
In an all volunteer force, they have no place. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:01:57 AM EDT
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That's correct and Kentucky doesn't allow the recall of the county clerk according to the Boston Globe. She can be impeached though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? county clerk is usually an ELECTED position. elected officials can not be fired That's correct and Kentucky doesn't allow the recall of the county clerk according to the Boston Globe. She can be impeached though. I support her! The Supreme Court vastly over reached their bounds with the gay marriage ruling. Marriage is a states rights issue, and the Mormon's in Utah if the state allows, should be free to have polygamous marriages, and I can't care less. Pretty sure the Constitution and Bill of Rights are cut and dry in what they allow. Everything else is a state's rights issue. Kentucky has never made a law allowing gay marriage, and I support their right as a state to do so. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:12:57 AM EDT
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I support her right to resign her elected position in protest. I support the people who elected her recalling her for failure to perform her job. I also support the court locking her fat ass up until she either agrees to do her job, or her term is up.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:21:14 AM EDT
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Sorry but IMHO I have to agree with her on this.
JUST my opinion though nothing more. 
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:23:12 AM EDT
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she's nuts...
If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:24:29 AM EDT
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How about we get rid of the draft because it's unconstitutional?
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:27:14 AM EDT
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She works for the government, she represents and serves everyone equally.
She is violating the First Amendment rights of gays. If she doesn't like it, she can quit. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:30:19 AM EDT
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When it comes right down to it, I can't see this as a religious issue. No one ordered her to marry anyone. She only is required to provide a legal document once certain requirements are met. If they were forcing her, or anyone else, to PERFORM marriages against their religious beliefs, then I would have a major issue with that.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:35:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:40:39 AM EDT
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As mentioned above, she's an elected official. I'm guessing there's no groundswell of support to have her recalled or impeached. Personally I think she should resign. But I understand her position. She seems to see herself as a martyr and perhaps she is. If I have this straight, all things being equal: She can leave jail when she signs her ticket to eternal damnation? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:42:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no law passed by the federal congress changing the definition of marriage. Neither was a law passed by the state of KY to change the definition. All we got ("all"...) was a supreme court case that determined that the 14th amendment - beyond all probability, was really all along about allowing future generations to change the definition of "marriage" to suit their fluid, changing understanding of the same term....the 10th amendment notwithstanding. But the clerk swore an oath to uphold the constitution of the US and KY before this SCOTUS case was conjured out of whole cloth. Changing the terms and definition and meaning of a Constitutional amendment beyond anything the drafters and voters of that amendment would have wanted, cannot stand. So her invoking religion notwithstanding, her case is actually stronger from a strictly legal basis. How can any court ex post facto change the terms of a contract like this? It would be like us declaring that "the people" means only corporations and so presto chango only corporations have bill of right protections and not individuals. If she objects that gay people shouldn't be married then she csn quit any time she feels like it. She swore to uphold the Constitution... she isn't doing that by Proselytizing her beliefs onto others through a public office. Government has no right to ban one from accessing services to one group of people versus another. That is what she's doing. No different than me telling a Gay Jewish Black Dude "Sorry but I'm not taking your burglary report. Your kind conflicts wih my religious views." |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:43:14 AM EDT
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If I have this straight, all things being equal: She can leave jail when she signs her ticket to eternal damnation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As mentioned above, she's an elected official. I'm guessing there's no groundswell of support to have her recalled or impeached. Personally I think she should resign. But I understand her position. She seems to see herself as a martyr and perhaps she is. If I have this straight, all things being equal: She can leave jail when she signs her ticket to eternal damnation? She could resign. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:44:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She claims it is a religious battle and not political. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? county clerk is usually an ELECTED position. elected officials can not be fired The county clerk is using civil disobedience as a political weapon. She claims it is a religious battle and not political. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:48:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no law passed by the federal congress changing the definition of marriage. Neither was a law passed by the state of KY to change the definition. All we got ("all"...) was a supreme court case that determined that the 14th amendment - beyond all probability, was really all along about allowing future generations to change the definition of "marriage" to suit their fluid, changing understanding of the same term....the 10th amendment notwithstanding. But the clerk swore an oath to uphold the constitution of the US and KY before this SCOTUS case was conjured out of whole cloth. Changing the terms and definition and meaning of a Constitutional amendment beyond anything the drafters and voters of that amendment would have wanted, cannot stand. So her invoking religion notwithstanding, her case is actually stronger from a strictly legal basis. How can any court ex post facto change the terms of a contract like this? It would be like us declaring that "the people" means only corporations and so presto chango only corporations have bill of right protections and not individuals. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:48:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: at a target in Minnesota I had to wait for a manager to come over to the register because the Muslim would not ring up my bacon the interesting thing here is that the Muslim knew she might come in contact with pork but the rules changed with this woman Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:49:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I have this straight, all things being equal: She can leave jail when she signs her ticket to eternal damnation? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As mentioned above, she's an elected official. I'm guessing there's no groundswell of support to have her recalled or impeached. Personally I think she should resign. But I understand her position. She seems to see herself as a martyr and perhaps she is. If I have this straight, all things being equal: She can leave jail when she signs her ticket to eternal damnation? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:50:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: at a target in Minnesota I had to wait for a manager to come over to the register because the Muslim would not ring up my bacon the interesting thing here is that the Muslim knew she might come in contact with pork but the rules changed with this woman Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:50:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She can't Proselytize from her position of authority. She wants to do it off hours... fine. But she's doing it on duty and that is a no go with the 1st Amendment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman The county clerk is using civil disobedience as a political weapon. She claims it is a religious battle and not political. Or refusing CCW permits or CLEO NFA permits odd how this seems to be the first time that an official is held to the letter of the law |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:51:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I support her! The Supreme Court vastly over reached their bounds with the gay marriage ruling. Marriage is a states rights issue, and the Mormon's in Utah if the state allows, should be free to have polygamous marriages, and I can't care less. Pretty sure the Constitution and Bill of Rights are cut and dry in what they allow. Everything else is a state's rights issue. Kentucky has never made a law allowing gay marriage, and I support their right as a state to do so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You do realize being a Conscientious objector is simply boiled down to "This conflicts with my religion, I'm not doing it, I'm going home" She is free to resign from her position at ANY time. The DoD classifies levels of conscientious objectors and they must provide a non-combatant role for the qualified objector. Therefore the military member does not quit and the military must provide a continuing position for that member. The county could have also fired her and then the contempt charge will more than likely be held void. Why is it the county doesn't just fire her? county clerk is usually an ELECTED position. elected officials can not be fired That's correct and Kentucky doesn't allow the recall of the county clerk according to the Boston Globe. She can be impeached though. I support her! The Supreme Court vastly over reached their bounds with the gay marriage ruling. Marriage is a states rights issue, and the Mormon's in Utah if the state allows, should be free to have polygamous marriages, and I can't care less. Pretty sure the Constitution and Bill of Rights are cut and dry in what they allow. Everything else is a state's rights issue. Kentucky has never made a law allowing gay marriage, and I support their right as a state to do so. Let's try this one. Alabama state law says blacks can't go to white schools. The Supreme Court says that's unconstitutional, a violation of the black student's civil rights. The state of Alabama continues to insist that it's a state's rights issue, and that's the law as it stands in the state. Going to a particular school is not mentioned in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights,hell the black students aren't even being denied an education or governmental service, Alabama has schools set aside for blacks, they just can't go to one set aside for whites. Do you support the right of the state of Alabama to deny black students entrance into the University of Alabama? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:52:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, when Target is part of the government then you might have something to actually be mad about.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:52:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It happens often Should this judge be jailed? http://abcnews.go.com/US/gay-texas-judge-refuses-perform-marriage-ceremonies/story?id=15784189 Or refusing CCW permits or CLEO NFA permits odd how this seems to be the first time that an official is held to the letter of the law Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman The county clerk is using civil disobedience as a political weapon. She claims it is a religious battle and not political. Or refusing CCW permits or CLEO NFA permits odd how this seems to be the first time that an official is held to the letter of the law |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:52:53 AM EDT
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She could resign. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As mentioned above, she's an elected official. I'm guessing there's no groundswell of support to have her recalled or impeached. Personally I think she should resign. But I understand her position. She seems to see herself as a martyr and perhaps she is. If I have this straight, all things being equal: She can leave jail when she signs her ticket to eternal damnation? She could resign. Yep - I missed that angle. That is the best way - the whole thing just disappears. She is good, the county is good, the gays are good, etc... How long, in lock-up, do you think it will take? I'm thinking Monday Tuesday. Edit for holiday weekend. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:53:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird I thought hired was bolded Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:56:02 AM EDT
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Wow, when Target is part of the government then you might have something to actually be mad about.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. doesn't matter to me..private or .gov/ don't want to do some aspect of that job? find another job. I'd fire her... |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:00:14 AM EDT
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If she can't do her job, she needs to find a new one. Otherwise, she is just milking the county for a paycheck..
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:02:09 AM EDT
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she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. The "duties" changed (were imposed) AFTER she was elected. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:04:39 AM EDT
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She works for the government, she represents and serves everyone equally. She is violating the First Amendment rights of gays. If she doesn't like it, she can quit. She's an elected agent of a State government. The Supremes changed the playing field by fiat not the will of the people. This is the fallout when extra Constitutional measures are embarked upon. The Supremes overstepped their authority. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:06:46 AM EDT
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She's an elected agent of a State government. The Supremes changed the playing field by fiat not the will of the people. This is the fallout when extra Constitutional measures are embarked upon. The Supremes overstepped their authority. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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She works for the government, she represents and serves everyone equally. She is violating the First Amendment rights of gays. If she doesn't like it, she can quit. She's an elected agent of a State government. The Supremes changed the playing field by fiat not the will of the people. This is the fallout when extra Constitutional measures are embarked upon. The Supremes overstepped their authority. Would you say the same if a pacifist refused to issue a CCW license or sign NFA forms? You must disagree with Heller then. The "People" banned guns in Washington DC, how dare "The Supremes" overturn that? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:09:50 AM EDT
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The "duties" changed (were imposed) AFTER she was elected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. The "duties" changed (were imposed) AFTER she was elected. Tough shit. Resign. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:10:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She's an elected agent of a State government. The Supremes changed the playing field by fiat not the will of the people. This is the fallout when extra Constitutional measures are embarked upon. The Supremes overstepped their authority. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She works for the government, she represents and serves everyone equally. She is violating the First Amendment rights of gays. If she doesn't like it, she can quit. She's an elected agent of a State government. The Supremes changed the playing field by fiat not the will of the people. This is the fallout when extra Constitutional measures are embarked upon. The Supremes overstepped their authority. When the Court struck down Virginia's anti-miscegenation law in the 1960s, was that the Court overstepping it's authority? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:10:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It happens often Should this judge be jailed? http://abcnews.go.com/US/gay-texas-judge-refuses-perform-marriage-ceremonies/story?id=15784189 Or refusing CCW permits or CLEO NFA permits odd how this seems to be the first time that an official is held to the letter of the law Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman The county clerk is using civil disobedience as a political weapon. She claims it is a religious battle and not political. Or refusing CCW permits or CLEO NFA permits odd how this seems to be the first time that an official is held to the letter of the law That judge in Texas said she wouldn't marrying anyone because she can't marry a woman. She didn't say because God told her so. The folks refusing to issue CCWs are on a different level all together. They aren't doing anything wrong because it is a May Issue Permit where tbis usually occurs. The laws are writte that way and they aren't refusing to issue permits due to religious reasons either. Both of those cases aren't 1st Amendment violations. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:12:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are they doing it for religious reasons? Are they Proselytizing from the bench? That judge in Texas said she wouldn't marrying anyone because she can't marry a woman. She didn't say because God told her so. The folks refusing to issue CCWs are on a different level all together. They aren't doing anything wrong because it is a May Issue Permit where tbis usually occurs. The laws are writte that way and they aren't refusing to issue permits due to religious reasons either. Both of those cases aren't 1st Amendment violations. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman The county clerk is using civil disobedience as a political weapon. She claims it is a religious battle and not political. Or refusing CCW permits or CLEO NFA permits odd how this seems to be the first time that an official is held to the letter of the law That judge in Texas said she wouldn't marrying anyone because she can't marry a woman. She didn't say because God told her so. The folks refusing to issue CCWs are on a different level all together. They aren't doing anything wrong because it is a May Issue Permit where tbis usually occurs. The laws are writte that way and they aren't refusing to issue permits due to religious reasons either. Both of those cases aren't 1st Amendment violations. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:16:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "duties" changed (were imposed) AFTER she was elected. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. The "duties" changed (were imposed) AFTER she was elected. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:16:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:The only way refusing to issue CCW permits would be a violation of a citizen's civil rights is if they were denied a CCW permit simply because they were black, or a woman, etc etc. Suppose a buddhist (and elected official) believes in nonviolence, and he believes signing his name on the CCW license approval form violates this belief. Is he wrong to refuse the license in a shall issue state? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:17:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "duties" changed (were imposed) AFTER she was elected. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: she's nuts... If your religion or belief system prevents you from performing the duties of a job you were hired or elected to do, than you should find another job..end of story. The "duties" changed (were imposed) AFTER she was elected. In 1967, SCOTUS ruled in Loving v. Virginia that laws banning mixed marriages were unconstitutional. Clerks of the Court, etc... had to follow that. Laws change all the time. You can be sworn in for a four year term and in your second year the legislature passes a law that changes some aspect of what your duties are. Happens all the time. Your job is to issue marriage licenses if the persons meets the requirements. The requirements changed. Issue he fucking license or resign from office. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:19:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Suppose a buddhist (and elected official) believes in nonviolence, and he believes signing his name on the CCW license approval form violates this belief. Is he wrong to refuse the license in a shall issue state? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:The only way refusing to issue CCW permits would be a violation of a citizen's civil rights is if they were denied a CCW permit simply because they were black, or a woman, etc etc. Suppose a buddhist (and elected official) believes in nonviolence, and he believes signing his name on the CCW license approval form violates this belief. Is he wrong to refuse the license in a shall issue state? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:19:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She's an elected agent of a State government. The Supremes changed the playing field by fiat not the will of the people. This is the fallout when extra Constitutional measures are embarked upon. The Supremes overstepped their authority. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She works for the government, she represents and serves everyone equally. She is violating the First Amendment rights of gays. If she doesn't like it, she can quit. She's an elected agent of a State government. The Supremes changed the playing field by fiat not the will of the people. This is the fallout when extra Constitutional measures are embarked upon. The Supremes overstepped their authority. |
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