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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:26:38 PM EDT
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No thanks
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:28:52 PM EDT
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They ride like shit. They shift like shit. Very little room, can't stand up, etc etc An uncle used to call those "Coffin Cabs". |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:30:46 PM EDT
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No thanks That would be almost as bad as an ugly ass 379   
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:38:54 PM EDT
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the nicest ones were the Kenworth COE aerodynes.those bring big bucks these days.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:40:46 PM EDT
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No thanks That would be almost as bad as an ugly ass 379 Either you are a diehard W900 fan or you are trolling.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:42:48 PM EDT
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No thanks That would be almost as bad as an ugly ass 379 Either you are a diehard W900 fan or you are trolling.I am a die hard W900L fan, but even I can see the beauty in the 379. Granted, They are uncomfortably small in the cab, but they still look good. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:53:37 PM EDT
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I am a die hard W900L fan, but even I can see the beauty in the 379. Granted, They are uncomfortably small in the cab, but they still look good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No thanks That would be almost as bad as an ugly ass 379 Either you are a diehard W900 fan or you are trolling.I am a die hard W900L fan, but even I can see the beauty in the 379. Granted, They are uncomfortably small in the cab, but they still look good. Hey, you can sit in the drivers seat and adjust the passenger side mirror by hand. That's a benefit right? |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:58:12 PM EDT
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Hey, you can sit in the drivers seat and adjust the passenger side mirror by hand. That's a benefit right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No thanks That would be almost as bad as an ugly ass 379 Either you are a diehard W900 fan or you are trolling.I am a die hard W900L fan, but even I can see the beauty in the 379. Granted, They are uncomfortably small in the cab, but they still look good. Hey, you can sit in the drivers seat and adjust the passenger side mirror by hand. That's a benefit right? Sure, right up until you realize you are adjusting with you right elbow 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:06:29 PM EDT
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My dad had a '78 International Cab Over that he used as the grain truck for the farm. I hated riding in it the passenger seat was a five gallon bucket, no a/c and no radio. He drove it until the transmission went out in '96 or so.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:13:42 PM EDT
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HEY, hey, hey, unless the driver is paying for it, as in O/O. 
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They ride like shit. They shift like shit. Very little room, can't stand up, etc etc I bet aerodynamics are shit as well. i.e. they burn more fuel. Drivers don't much care about that. HEY, hey, hey, unless the driver is paying for it, as in O/O.
That's the other side of your brain
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:14:37 PM EDT
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A couple weeks ago I did front wheel bearings on a old old Freightliner cab over, no sleeper. The cab width was like a damn Humvee inside. Had a air starter too, sounded cool as hell, rode like shit.
It was a short little fucker like this. 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:18:10 PM EDT
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the bullpup of the truck world. I personally think they look kickass.
my dad and I did a frame out rebuild on this international a long time ago. I had a hard time shifting because the linkage is so awkward. in a convential rig, you sit right over the transmission, so you just have a stick directly connected to the transmission, but on a cabover there is a long linkage that the shifter slides in and out of so that you can jack up the cab like this. The sifter mounts right to the body of the cab, and that section of the cab was cracking apart. we stiched in some brand new sheet metal and bolted the shifter to that. I couldnt shift it for shit, but my dad could run it like a master. he would set the jake brakes on for 2 cylinders and let the jakes engage between shifts to get the engine RPM down faster. he could speed shift that bitch without the clutch and it sounded so sweet. *engine rev* brrrrrp shift *engine rev* brrrrrp shift *engine rev* brrrp and so on 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:21:36 PM EDT
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Truckers don't like them because: It's hot and noisy sitting directly over the engine Nothing between you and a front end collision besides some sheet metal. I drove straight trucks and had a collision that would have killed me without the front end to soak up damage. I see if I can find the pic, but a friend was nearly killed when the b Hood of a 359 Pete came through the windshield. It broke both front hood mounts in the accident and pushed the hood back into the cab. If he had been in a cabover the pickup he hit would have been under his feet. About the only thing you can hit with a cabover that won't go under you is bridges and other trucks. If you think a hood will save you hitting either at speed I have a cute little bridge in Brooklyn I'll let go cheap. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:29:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A couple weeks ago I did front wheel bearings on a old old Freightliner cab over, no sleeper. The cab width was like a damn Humvee inside. Had a air starter too, sounded cool as hell, rode like shit. It was a short little fucker like this. http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/charlied_02/Album6/cf_frtlnr_daycab_dbls.jpg There is a company running super short cabovers like that pulling 57 footers in California |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:31:28 PM EDT
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A couple weeks ago I did front wheel bearings on a old old Freightliner cab over, no sleeper. The cab width was like a damn Humvee inside. Had a air starter too, sounded cool as hell, rode like shit. It was a short little fucker like this. http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/charlied_02/Album6/cf_frtlnr_daycab_dbls.jpg There is a company running super short cabovers like that pulling 57 footers in California Dixon? I think swift got rid of theirs. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:31:31 PM EDT
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Truckers don't like them because: It's hot and noisy sitting directly over the engine Nothing between you and a front end collision besides some sheet metal. I drove straight trucks and had a collision that would have killed me without the front end to soak up damage. This. You are always the first one to the scene of the accident. This and there is no sheet metal. They are made of alum. for lighter weight.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:31:39 PM EDT
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Years ago, I went on a date with a girl who had a face like a cab-over truck. Lovely girl, wonder where she is these days.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:33:10 PM EDT
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Around here you mostly see them as bread trucks and for pulling triples in OR.
Rode in my Uncle's Freightliner COE as a kid, rode crappy and has an awkward short ass shifter too. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:33:32 PM EDT
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Years ago, I went on a date with a girl who had a face like a cab-over truck. Lovely girl, wonder where she is these days. 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:34:11 PM EDT
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First truck I owned was a 91 FLB. I'm nostalgic now, but couldn't wait to buy a conventional with an air ride cab. I'll take my Western Star over any cabover. BTW, nobody makes a U.S. legal cabover anymore. You can buy an Argosy as a new glider, which means it will come without 2 of three parts of the drivetrain, engine, tranny or rear ends. Gliders aren't subject to current emmisions. An old pic.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:34:53 PM EDT
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Sure, right up until you realize you are adjusting with you right elbow
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No thanks That would be almost as bad as an ugly ass 379 Either you are a diehard W900 fan or you are trolling.I am a die hard W900L fan, but even I can see the beauty in the 379. Granted, They are uncomfortably small in the cab, but they still look good. Hey, you can sit in the drivers seat and adjust the passenger side mirror by hand. That's a benefit right? Sure, right up until you realize you are adjusting with you right elbow
They only make 2 Trucks, Kenworth and Peterbilt. Both made by Paccar. 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:36:30 PM EDT
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Either you are a diehard W900 fan or you are trolling.I am a die hard W900L fan, but even I can see the beauty in the 379. Granted, They are uncomfortably small in the cab, but they still look good. Hey, you can sit in the drivers seat and adjust the passenger side mirror by hand. That's a benefit right? Sure, right up until you realize you are adjusting with you right elbow
They only make 2 Trucks, Kenworth and Peterbilt. Both made by Paccar. True, but the Kwhopper still has a wider cab 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:37:50 PM EDT
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This one was in our shop a month or so ago...looks identical to the one 74novaman posted. <a href="http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/Dagger41/media/012_zps4isntsdo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/Dagger41/012_zps4isntsdo.jpg</a> Cool! |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:41:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dixon? I think swift got rid of theirs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: A couple weeks ago I did front wheel bearings on a old old Freightliner cab over, no sleeper. The cab width was like a damn Humvee inside. Had a air starter too, sounded cool as hell, rode like shit. It was a short little fucker like this. http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o3/charlied_02/Album6/cf_frtlnr_daycab_dbls.jpg There is a company running super short cabovers like that pulling 57 footers in California Dixon? I think swift got rid of theirs. Biagi Bros |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:44:19 PM EDT
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First thought.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:44:38 PM EDT
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I see more and more of them on the road around here. Most of them are stretched out with 280-300" wb, they look kind of neat but I'll stick with my conventional.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:45:03 PM EDT
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There working on killing the glider emission deal they will sqwash it soon enough
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First truck I owned was a 91 FLB. I'm nostalgic now, but couldn't wait to buy a conventional with an air ride cab. I'll take my Western Star over any cabover. BTW, nobody makes a U.S. legal cabover anymore. You can buy an Argosy as a new glider, which means it will come without 2 of three parts of the drivetrain, engine, tranny or rear ends. Gliders aren't subject to current emmisions. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:47:45 PM EDT
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international harvester sightliner
and another version 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:51:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI thought for sure this would be on page 1. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:53:27 PM EDT
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We had 5 old cabovers in our fleet when I started driving- 4 Internationals and 1 freightliner (evidently they were still making them in the mid 90's). We got rid of the last one a few years ago. Man I hated those fucking things.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:53:51 PM EDT
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First class 8 truck I ever drove was a White Compact. Boss had cured the shift linkage with an Allison MT654. It was not a bad truck to drive - if you had never driven anything else.
He "ugraded" his trucks to a new pair of Astro 95's shortly before I moved on. Those were decent trucks for city traffic. Very short, and again MT654 transmissions - with a screaming detroit 6-71T under your ass. COE is an acquired taste for some I guess. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:18:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: . But the cab overs were rough riding SOBs and the "dog house" engine cover took up a lot of floor space, making getting to the bunk a clumsy experience. The "flat floor" International "Condos" were nicer, but it was still awkward moving around in side of one compared to a conventional. How did they get rid of the dog house? Move the engine? Shorter engine? Ever drive on like this?  |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:37:41 PM EDT
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I never had to drive one far but I hated em.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:39:03 PM EDT
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I see them here in Oregon/Washington hauling hay, bread, power poles and wind turbine blades.
I rode in a Friends W900 Kenworth log truck with walking beam suspension that was just as rough if not worse than any cab over. The truck would throw you back and forth and bounce you up and down into this circular motion. I would love to have an old International 4070. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:43:48 PM EDT
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. But the cab overs were rough riding SOBs and the "dog house" engine cover took up a lot of floor space, making getting to the bunk a clumsy experience. The "flat floor" International "Condos" were nicer, but it was still awkward moving around in side of one compared to a conventional. How did they get rid of the dog house? Move the engine? Shorter engine? Ever drive on like this? http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo46/cowboysevens/transtardoublebunk.jpg I've seen two like that. That one and one about the same color that was leased to landstar in the eighties. I can't remember if it was Ranger or Inway, geez I'm getting old. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:45:28 PM EDT
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Grew up driving one of these with an 18' box for my grandfather's cabinet shop.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:51:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:53:17 PM EDT
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What about the old light duty cab over pickups?
I haven't seen one in the road in years, but I always wanted a Econoline. 
Not a big fan of the Dodge A100 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:56:29 PM EDT
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We had one on our farm. Detroit Diesel with an air starter. Blown 2 stroke that revved like a fucking chainsaw? Those old 2 stroke detroits sure are a blast to run. Yep. Like this one only in green. http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3180/2814781352_e574f80dc5_z.jpg?zz=1 V92 in a Pete ! The doghouse was a great idea to take a cat nap on. No way would your body ever let you oversleep leaning on that thing.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 8:58:14 PM EDT
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Meanwhile in Europe... cab over is king:
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:01:14 PM EDT
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I see them all the time here hauling logs and such. Old school Optimus Prime. LMFAO....Old School This is barely old school, but my favorite truck of my 25 year career 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:04:12 PM EDT
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What about the old light duty cab over pickups? I haven't seen one in the road in years, but I always wanted a Econoline. http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/03/CC-61-043-800.jpg Not a big fan of the Dodge A100 http://image.hotrod.com/f/26580266+w660+h495+cr1/mopp_0801_13%2Bclassic_mopar_project_cars%2Bdodge_a100_pickup.jpg Or the Chevy Corvair http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Fullscreen-capture-2242011-65536-AM.bmp-720x436.jpg Jeep fc-150s were pretty bad ass too |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:04:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:04:21 PM EDT
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NAFTA & the phasing out of the ICC led to the demise of the COE-type in this country. Some states still have restrictive "bridge formulas" which set allowable overall length as weighed against total number of axles, axle spacing, etc... in order to lessen the impact of overloaded axles on roads & bridges (weights per axle). California seems to have very restrictive bridge formulas, and are still stuck in the 1930s with split speed limits (all trucks/autos with trailers are limited to max 55mph) as well as limiting total axles to 5 per combination (no triples, no Turnpike/Rocky Mountain Doubles, et al). A lot of the "California Special" hay trucks had a very long frame to accomodate either a cargo box or a flatbed, while still having a fifth wheel on the back to tow a tandem axle semi-trailer. Or a 2-axle full trailer. And that's why you see so many truck terminals/yards near the California state line for drivers to drop their 3rd (triple) trailer as only doubles are allowed in the state, or excess trailers/axles to be dropped to comply with California's complex & strange bridge formulas. I'm glad I don't drive HGVs for work, just personal use.
Not to mention that ALL commercial HGVs registered in California MUST have a 2010 or newer engine to comply with CARB emission rules...that nearly killed the collector market there. Roads in Europe are much narrower and have tighter turns than the rest of the developed world, so COEs are naturally friendlier for the smaller confines available to run HGVs there. And why most are 2-axle COEs vs. 3-axle as well. **HGVs: Heavy Goods Vehicles, typically anything that requires a CDL in this country.** |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:19:22 PM EDT
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Around here you mostly see them as bread trucks and for pulling triples in OR. http://static.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/2010/07/15/new_franz_pb_drom02.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2705/4339419897_bc94aee314.jpg Rode in my Uncle's Freightliner COE as a kid, rode crappy and has an awkward short ass shifter too. You just reminded me of how my right arm would hurt after driving all day with my hand on that shifter when I was running a plant-to-warehouse shuttle. For me that was certainly not the right height and holding my arm up like that, making all the shifts needed to go up and down the mountain at that location really did wear on me in a 12 hour day. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:23:34 PM EDT
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I was told you were the first one to see the accident in one.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:39:13 PM EDT
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But the cab overs were rough riding SOBs and the "dog house" engine cover took up a lot of floor space, making getting to the bunk a clumsy experience. The "flat floor" International "Condos" were nicer, but it was still awkward moving around in side of one compared to a conventional. How did they get rid of the dog house? Move the engine? Shorter engine? Ever drive on like this? http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo46/cowboysevens/transtardoublebunk.jpg I've seen two like that. That one and one about the same color that was leased to landstar in the eighties. I can't remember if it was Ranger or Inway, geez I'm getting old. Never drove that model, but the Internationals I did drive were certainly the descendants of that one. As far as getting rid of the doghouse, the Eagle condos I drove had a short, three or four inch raised floor between the seats that ran from firewall to the bunk. So I guess that was International's solution, coupled with the engine being moved further back. I know Freightliner used a four in or so thick platform on the Argosy, which was the actual tilting section and the cab was mounted on that. It gave enough space underneath the cab floor and the engines were mounted mostly out back with a cover like the old doghouse them. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:40:38 PM EDT
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I see them once in a while here in Vermont.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:43:10 PM EDT
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Even better when updated, or modified- 
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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:59:11 PM EDT
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Never drove that model, but the Internationals I did drive were certainly the descendants of that one. As far as getting rid of the doghouse, the Eagle condos I drove had a short, three or four inch raised floor between the seats that ran from firewall to the bunk. So I guess that was International's solution, coupled with the engine being moved further back. I know Freightliner used a four in or so thick platform on the Argosy, which was the actual tilting section and the cab was mounted on that. It gave enough space underneath the cab floor and the engines were mounted mostly out back with a cover like the old doghouse them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But the cab overs were rough riding SOBs and the "dog house" engine cover took up a lot of floor space, making getting to the bunk a clumsy experience. The "flat floor" International "Condos" were nicer, but it was still awkward moving around in side of one compared to a conventional. How did they get rid of the dog house? Move the engine? Shorter engine? Ever drive on like this? http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo46/cowboysevens/transtardoublebunk.jpg I've seen two like that. That one and one about the same color that was leased to landstar in the eighties. I can't remember if it was Ranger or Inway, geez I'm getting old. Never drove that model, but the Internationals I did drive were certainly the descendants of that one. As far as getting rid of the doghouse, the Eagle condos I drove had a short, three or four inch raised floor between the seats that ran from firewall to the bunk. So I guess that was International's solution, coupled with the engine being moved further back. I know Freightliner used a four in or so thick platform on the Argosy, which was the actual tilting section and the cab was mounted on that. It gave enough space underneath the cab floor and the engines were mounted mostly out back with a cover like the old doghouse them. They were custom built they took the back of a red truck and welded it on to the back of another. |
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