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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  As a paramedic I can safely say that if your ignorance and assumptions could be quantified in a physical form, it would fill a bus.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Starting pay for EMS crews in most of the country is less than $15/hr, and they are responsible for saving lives. Someone working as a door greeter at Walmart deserves the same pay or more? Oooooookay. EMS crews are a cross the board under paid and only require what like a year community college education? Not sure the point ... Their wages suck so everyone's should suck? As a paramedic I can safely say that if your ignorance and assumptions could be quantified in a physical form, it would fill a bus.http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/emergency-medical-technician-and-paramedic/salary Awsome pay what am I saying ... That is defiantly worth dealing with human shit, dead people, drunks, etc. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:42:17 PM EDT
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Does the OP understand that the minimum wage always is and always will be $0. The automation industry will help to educate people on this subject.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:42:21 PM EDT
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History is a great example of it doing so. First from the benefits from only a few being educated, to the modern day and us having this conversation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kind of like you believe human nature can change with "education." History is a great example of it doing so. First from the benefits from only a few being educated, to the modern day and us having this conversation. Are you being obtuse? History is a perfect example of this not being the case. Use every example of socialism and its retarded cousins as the proof. Millions dead. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:42:29 PM EDT
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You really fail at reading. ETA: I think i said he would be FOR gun and speech free zones, but reading is for suckers. I misread, sorry. So, exactly why would you support this fucker? Because he would supposedly crack down on corporations? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:42:44 PM EDT
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Venezuela is the answer you seek. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So how exactly are you balancing different rights every time you vote? Socialism inherently infringes upon your rights and freedom, so how are you balancing by voting for someone who blatantly wants to infringe upon your rights and freedom? Well, I'm for putting the military on the boarder but not deporting those that are here. I'm pro choice, pro gun, and for single payer healthcare. I'm vehemently anti-theist and support education being limited only by personal ability. I think, "free speech" zones are as much of an infringement as "gun free" zones. I'm tired of being the world's police and want to see the government exerting power over the corporations instead of visa vera. Which party should I sign up with?  Venezuela is the answer you seek. They never learn do they. He is just young and has lots of misplaced idealism....no doubt enthralled by the revolutionary trappings and images of the left. It is just 'cool' and the other side isn't. Rinse and repeat every generation. Damn, where is my Che shirt. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:43:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I misread, sorry. So, exactly why would you support this fucker? Because he would supposedly crack down on corporations? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You really fail at reading. ETA: I think i said he would be FOR gun and speech free zones, but reading is for suckers. I misread, sorry. So, exactly why would you support this fucker? Because he would supposedly crack down on corporations? Did I say I was supporting him ...? Have you misread again? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:43:50 PM EDT
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As I stated, you're quite the would be tyrant. Honestly, despite my best intentions I probably would be. Which is why I shouldn't be in a position to exercise that authority in government. That self awareness comes from education, like the population I mentioned above has 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:44:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm from a very religious upbringing. We don't discuss it anymore, they get very angry Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You'd be a fucking laugh riot at lunch ins down in the Bible Belt.  I'm from a very religious upbringing. We don't discuss it anymore, they get very angry |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:44:10 PM EDT
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Would his brother come back from the dead to save him from himself? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you really don't believe in freedom. You're quite the tyrant when you get right down to it. If you believe you talk to an invisible being you're mentally ill. Human beings being prone to functional errors is not earth shattering news. Getting them to realize it would be. As I stated, you're quite the would be tyrant. Would his brother come back from the dead to save him from himself? Are you asking me? I'm an agnostic so I don't really have a dog in this fight, but at least I have the humility to understand that I don't have all the answers. And I certainly have no desire to impose my views on this question on other people by labeling one side a mental illness. This is btw a classic tactic of socialist/communist systems - labeling opposing views a mental illness. Soviet psychiatric wards were full of those with dissenting views. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:44:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does the OP understand that the minimum wage always is and always will be $0. The automation industry will help to educate people on this subject. So automation has no hourly "wage" attached to it for the business POV or the employee who runs and maintains it? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:44:17 PM EDT
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Did I say I was supporting him ...? Have you misread again? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You really fail at reading. ETA: I think i said he would be FOR gun and speech free zones, but reading is for suckers. I misread, sorry. So, exactly why would you support this fucker? Because he would supposedly crack down on corporations? Did I say I was supporting him ...? Have you misread again? You seem to be supporting this Socialist utopia, as well as the person who created the thread. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:44:36 PM EDT
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Honestly, despite my best intentions I probably would be. Which is why I shouldn't be in a position to exercise that authority in government. That self awareness comes from education, like the population I mentioned above has Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As I stated, you're quite the would be tyrant. Honestly, despite my best intentions I probably would be. Which is why I shouldn't be in a position to exercise that authority in government. That self awareness comes from education, like the population I mentioned above has Were you not educated? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:44:47 PM EDT
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Are you being obtuse? History is a perfect example of this not being the case. Use every example of socialism and its retarded cousins as the proof. Millions dead. Millions dead is only one aspect of human nature and it has improved over time. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you asking me? I'm an agnostic so I don't really have a dog in this fight, but at least I have the humility to understand that I don't have all the answers. And I certainly have no desire to impose my views on this question on other people by labeling one side a mental illness. This is btw a classic tactic of socialist/communist systems - labeling opposing views a mental illness. Soviet psychiatric were full of those with dissenting views. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So you really don't believe in freedom. You're quite the tyrant when you get right down to it. If you believe you talk to an invisible being you're mentally ill. Human beings being prone to functional errors is not earth shattering news. Getting them to realize it would be. As I stated, you're quite the would be tyrant. Would his brother come back from the dead to save him from himself? Are you asking me? I'm an agnostic so I don't really have a dog in this fight, but at least I have the humility to understand that I don't have all the answers. And I certainly have no desire to impose my views on this question on other people by labeling one side a mental illness. This is btw a classic tactic of socialist/communist systems - labeling opposing views a mental illness. Soviet psychiatric were full of those with dissenting views. I was being sarcastic and referring the show Tyrant ... |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:45:45 PM EDT
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You're putting words in my mouth or forgetting what I've previously said
I put the limitations of the system up front and center. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So which belief is more irrational? A belief in god or a belief in a socialist utopia? We've already demonstrated your belief in the latter. You're putting words in my mouth or forgetting what I've previously said
I put the limitations of the system up front and center. You said explicitly that you believed the end state of your proposed system would be an educated and prosperous population that no longer needed the government. If that's not Utopian I don't know what is. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:46:08 PM EDT
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They never learn do they. He is just young and has lots of misplaced idealism....no doubt enthralled by the revolutionary trappings and images of the left. It is just 'cool' and the other side isn't. Rinse and repeat every generation. Damn, where is my Che shirt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So how exactly are you balancing different rights every time you vote? Socialism inherently infringes upon your rights and freedom, so how are you balancing by voting for someone who blatantly wants to infringe upon your rights and freedom? Well, I'm for putting the military on the boarder but not deporting those that are here. I'm pro choice, pro gun, and for single payer healthcare. I'm vehemently anti-theist and support education being limited only by personal ability. I think, "free speech" zones are as much of an infringement as "gun free" zones. I'm tired of being the world's police and want to see the government exerting power over the corporations instead of visa vera. Which party should I sign up with? Venezuela is the answer you seek. They never learn do they. He is just young and has lots of misplaced idealism....no doubt enthralled by the revolutionary trappings and images of the left. It is just 'cool' and the other side isn't. Rinse and repeat every generation. Damn, where is my Che shirt. I thought he was old and used to work for the IRS? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:46:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As I stated, you're quite the would be tyrant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you believe you talk to an invisible being you're mentally ill. Human beings being prone to functional errors is not earth shattering news. Getting them to realize it would be. As I stated, you're quite the would be tyrant. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:46:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You seem to be supporting this Socialist utopia, as well as the person who created the thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You really fail at reading. ETA: I think i said he would be FOR gun and speech free zones, but reading is for suckers. I misread, sorry. So, exactly why would you support this fucker? Because he would supposedly crack down on corporations? Did I say I was supporting him ...? Have you misread again? You seem to be supporting this Socialist utopia, as well as the person who created the thread. I think he is fantastic he has a bunch of the right wings version of moon bats wringing their hands. I do not support a socialist utopia or most of his views if you reread the thread and see where I post disagreeing with his thoughts on illegals and such. ETA: that being said I do not support most of the views in this thread ... |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:46:58 PM EDT
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Possibly from an Amish or Mennonite background? Lots of Amish and Mennonites in OH and PA. Episcopal and Presbyterian. Family later went Catholic long after I had already jettisoned the idea of the supernatural. There are a lot of horse and buggies on the roads here though 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:47:14 PM EDT
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You're putting words in my mouth or forgetting what I've previously said
I put the limitations of the system up front and center. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So which belief is more irrational? A belief in god or a belief in a socialist utopia? We've already demonstrated your belief in the latter. You're putting words in my mouth or forgetting what I've previously said
I put the limitations of the system up front and center. BTW - what were the limitation on your system that you put up front and center? Specifically. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:47:44 PM EDT
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Millions dead is only one aspect of human nature and it has improved over time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you being obtuse? History is a perfect example of this not being the case. Use every example of socialism and its retarded cousins as the proof. Millions dead. Millions dead is only one aspect of human nature and it has improved over time. Its only a matter of time til youre proven wrong again. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:48:27 PM EDT
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I thought he was old and used to work for the IRS? 32 and no. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:48:47 PM EDT
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I think he is fantastic he has a bunch of the right wings version of moon bats wringing their hands. I do not support a socialist utopia or most of his views if you reread the thread and see where I post disagreeing with his thoughts on illegals and such. ETA: that being said I do not support most of the views in this thread ... So then what do you believe? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:48:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its only a matter of time til youre proven wrong again. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are you being obtuse? History is a perfect example of this not being the case. Use every example of socialism and its retarded cousins as the proof. Millions dead. Millions dead is only one aspect of human nature and it has improved over time. Its only a matter of time til youre proven wrong again. Sanders will be different, he promises. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:49:16 PM EDT
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They never learn do they. He is just young and has lots of misplaced idealism....no doubt enthralled by the revolutionary trappings and images of the left. It is just 'cool' and the other side isn't. Rinse and repeat every generation. Damn, where is my Che shirt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Venezuela is the answer you seek. They never learn do they. He is just young and has lots of misplaced idealism....no doubt enthralled by the revolutionary trappings and images of the left. It is just 'cool' and the other side isn't. Rinse and repeat every generation. Damn, where is my Che shirt. I've paid some attention to Choking Hazard in the past. It's not misplaced idealism so much as misplace anger, envy, and resentment. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:49:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So then what do you believe? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think he is fantastic he has a bunch of the right wings version of moon bats wringing their hands. I do not support a socialist utopia or most of his views if you reread the thread and see where I post disagreeing with his thoughts on illegals and such. ETA: that being said I do not support most of the views in this thread ... So then what do you believe? ETA: Strong domestic manufacturing laws, hardline immigration reform, 2A rights, the abolishment of RTW bullshit, the separation of the AFL CIO into the AFL and CIO, universal healthcare, education reform in the way of pushing apprenticeships more over basket weaving, etc. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:50:03 PM EDT
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You said explicitly that you believed the end state of your proposed system would be an educated and prosper population that no longer needed the government. If that's not Utopian I don't know what is. I didn't say they wouldn't need the government as its the best tool for certain jobs. I said the government wouldn't be able to exert the influence you mentioned because of the population makeup. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:51:44 PM EDT
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I've paid some attention to Choking Hazard in the past. It's not misplaced idealism so much as misplace anger, envy, and resentment. Anger, sure. Envy and resentment? Not really. Misplaced? Doubtful. ETA I'm more in the camp of, stop making me do mundane shit to support this body and let's stomp down the pedal on progress towards the singularity. I don't want what you have or resent you having it. I just want it to stop getting in the way. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:54:00 PM EDT
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Millions dead is only one aspect of human nature and it has improved over time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you being obtuse? History is a perfect example of this not being the case. Use every example of socialism and its retarded cousins as the proof. Millions dead. Millions dead is only one aspect of human nature and it has improved over time. Really? Based on what fact? There were more deaths caused by governments not distantly related to what you propose in the prior century than perhaps all government caused death in the prior centuries combined. And I would be remiss if I didn't point out that most of these government shared your totally rational, mentally healthy views on theism. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:54:15 PM EDT
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You're right. The fucking democrats always end up getting what they want and with their immigration policies there is no stopping it. With leaders like Bonehead and Mush McConnell, this is a done deal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They'll eventually get it too. This is why we are losing. They are very specific about what they want; they are united, and they just keep repeating the same thing over and over until they get it. Gun owners need to pay attention. You're right. The fucking democrats always end up getting what they want and with their immigration policies there is no stopping it. With leaders like Bonehead and Mush McConnell, this is a done deal. March 26, 2015, 12:40 pm Republicans block Sanders's minimum wage amendment Dems won't over-ride Barry's veto. You believe they would? 13 Democrats over ride the historic Barack Obama? lol Obama rips House Republicans’ budget bills over spending limits ............... The letters also lay out the White House alternatives to Republican proposals — major spending increases paid for in part with tax hikes. But the White House and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill strongly oppose the two bills. The administration has suggested that Mr. Obama will veto the measures, though official veto threats have yet to be issued.But the White House and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill strongly oppose the two bills. The administration has suggested that Mr. Obama will veto the measures, though official veto threats have yet to be issued. .............. Meanwhile, Republican leaders say Mr. Obama’s desired spending increases and the tax hikes to pay for them are dead on arrival. “According to the president’s budget request, these fabricated additional funds would come primarily through tax increases that are not, and will never become, current law,” said Jennifer Hing, spokeswoman for the House Appropriations Committee. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:56:01 PM EDT
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Really? Based on what fact? There were more deaths caused by governments not distantly related to what you propose in the prior century than perhaps all government caused death in the prior centuries combined. And I would be remiss if I didn't point out that most of these government shared your totally rational, mentally healthy views on theism. I was talking about human civilization and wasn't even considering human deaths. When asked about it I said it was going down and it is. War is decreasing as a cause of death as a function of time. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:57:11 PM EDT
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Zionism ... Bernie wasn't hardline enough he was kicked out of the club. ETA: Strong domestic manufacturing laws, hardline immigration reform, 2A rights, the abolishment of RTW bullshit, the separation of the AFL CIO into the AFL and CIO, universal healthcare, education reform in the way of pushing apprenticeships more over basket weaving, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think he is fantastic he has a bunch of the right wings version of moon bats wringing their hands. I do not support a socialist utopia or most of his views if you reread the thread and see where I post disagreeing with his thoughts on illegals and such. ETA: that being said I do not support most of the views in this thread ... So then what do you believe? ETA: Strong domestic manufacturing laws, hardline immigration reform, 2A rights, the abolishment of RTW bullshit, the separation of the AFL CIO into the AFL and CIO, universal healthcare, education reform in the way of pushing apprenticeships more over basket weaving, etc. Oh a butthurt union dinosaur. 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:57:22 PM EDT
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Anger, sure. Envy and resentment? Not really. Misplaced? Doubtful. ETA I'm more in the camp of, stop making me do mundane shit to support this body and let's stomp down the pedal on progress towards the singularity. I don't want what you have or resent you having it. I just want it to stop getting in the way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've paid some attention to Choking Hazard in the past. It's not misplaced idealism so much as misplace anger, envy, and resentment. Anger, sure. Envy and resentment? Not really. Misplaced? Doubtful. ETA I'm more in the camp of, stop making me do mundane shit to support this body and let's stomp down the pedal on progress towards the singularity. I don't want what you have or resent you having it. I just want it to stop getting in the way. If you don't want to do "mundane shit to support this body" then let me suggest that you improve your skill set. How dare you claim the property of others for your own support. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:59:38 PM EDT
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If you don't want to do "mundane shit to support this body" then let me suggest that you improve your skill set. How dare you claim the property of others for your own support. It's a function of society and it's not just "my" support. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:00:18 PM EDT
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Anger, sure. Envy and resentment? Not really. Misplaced? Doubtful. ETA I'm more in the camp of, stop making me do mundane shit to support this body and let's stomp down the pedal on progress towards the singularity. I don't want what you have or resent you having it. I just want it to stop getting in the way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've paid some attention to Choking Hazard in the past. It's not misplaced idealism so much as misplace anger, envy, and resentment. Anger, sure. Envy and resentment? Not really. Misplaced? Doubtful. ETA I'm more in the camp of, stop making me do mundane shit to support this body and let's stomp down the pedal on progress towards the singularity. I don't want what you have or resent you having it. I just want it to stop getting in the way. And you believe its religion and capitalism's fault? el oh el |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:01:30 PM EDT
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I was talking about human civilization and wasn't even considering human deaths. When asked about it I said it was going down and it is. War is decreasing as a cause of death as a function of time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really? Based on what fact? There were more deaths caused by governments not distantly related to what you propose in the prior century than perhaps all government caused death in the prior centuries combined. And I would be remiss if I didn't point out that most of these government shared your totally rational, mentally healthy views on theism. I was talking about human civilization and wasn't even considering human deaths. When asked about it I said it was going down and it is. War is decreasing as a cause of death as a function of time. War isn't normally the way tyrannical governments choose to kill their own populations. It wasn't Stalin's way, nor Mao's, nor the way of the Khmer Rouge. Just those three and you're looking at say 70ish million dead. The 20th century was objectively the most violent in human history. And the 21st isn't shaping up to be better so far. And Utopia ideologies were the greatest killers in the prior century. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:02:42 PM EDT
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It's a function of society and it's not just "my" support. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't want to do "mundane shit to support this body" then let me suggest that you improve your skill set. How dare you claim the property of others for your own support. It's a function of society and it's not just "my" support. Ah, the eternal refrain of the leftist - "it's society's fault". |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:02:48 PM EDT
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And you believe its religion and capitalism's fault? el oh el Fault? Nope, we couldn't have gotten here this quickly without it. Like religion, it is a phase of human society's evolution not the final step. It's the "Great Experiment" for a reason. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:03:55 PM EDT
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Ah, the eternal refrain of the leftist - "it's society's fault". I don't see it as a fault. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:04:15 PM EDT
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I was talking about human civilization and wasn't even considering human deaths. When asked about it I said it was going down and it is. War is decreasing as a cause of death as a function of time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really? Based on what fact? There were more deaths caused by governments not distantly related to what you propose in the prior century than perhaps all government caused death in the prior centuries combined. And I would be remiss if I didn't point out that most of these government shared your totally rational, mentally healthy views on theism. I was talking about human civilization and wasn't even considering human deaths. When asked about it I said it was going down and it is. War is decreasing as a cause of death as a function of time. How many fetuses have been killed since planned parenthood was formed? You call that going down? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:04:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh a butthurt union dinosaur. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think he is fantastic he has a bunch of the right wings version of moon bats wringing their hands. I do not support a socialist utopia or most of his views if you reread the thread and see where I post disagreeing with his thoughts on illegals and such. ETA: that being said I do not support most of the views in this thread ... So then what do you believe? ETA: Strong domestic manufacturing laws, hardline immigration reform, 2A rights, the abolishment of RTW bullshit, the separation of the AFL CIO into the AFL and CIO, universal healthcare, education reform in the way of pushing apprenticeships more over basket weaving, etc. Oh a butthurt union dinosaur. I suppose in a sense that may be true, but unfortunately I am not old enough to be a dinosaur that would have reaped the benefits of strong unionism. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many fetuses have been killed since planned parenthood was formed? You call that going down? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Really? Based on what fact? There were more deaths caused by governments not distantly related to what you propose in the prior century than perhaps all government caused death in the prior centuries combined. And I would be remiss if I didn't point out that most of these government shared your totally rational, mentally healthy views on theism. I was talking about human civilization and wasn't even considering human deaths. When asked about it I said it was going down and it is. War is decreasing as a cause of death as a function of time. How many fetuses have been killed since planned parenthood was formed? You call that going down? Ugh ... Pro-Lifers might as well argue with the baby fetus billboards they hall around then reason with them. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:06:16 PM EDT
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How many fetuses have been killed since planned parenthood was formed? You call that going down? 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:07:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hitlery is doing pretty well for herself. That is the kind of person that succeeds under the system proposed by choking hazard. hitlery produces nothing but corruption. Those that actually produce something are punished with punitive taxes and regulations.  |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:08:43 PM EDT
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Then show me an example of anarcho-socialism in the real world that did not end up in pure anarchy or pure socialism. It is a purely theoretical construct that can not exist in the real world. I eagerly await your response. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we should assume you'll be voting Democrat this time round? I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. The minimum wage in and of itself outside of indexing for cost of living does not do anything, but with respect to cost of living it obviously does have an effect on a persons ability to earn a living wage. The acrossed the board $15 minimum wage federally does fuck all to take into account the cost of living state per state, so say in a low cost area of the South East it would probably a much higher burden upon the employer then somewhere like NYC. I am sure your boot straps are broken off and you have minted your own coins, but for many people the minimum wage amount does determine the wages their employer is willing to pay them. Anarcho-socialism is not the purists version of anarchist political views, but it does not make it an oxymoron it makes it a different version of a political thought. Voting for Warren would be like nailing your dick to a fucking hand railing, worthless. Sanders may not make gun grabbing his first move, but it is on the to do list, so I don't see him regardless of some of his views as a great deal. Then show me an example of anarcho-socialism in the real world that did not end up in pure anarchy or pure socialism. It is a purely theoretical construct that can not exist in the real world. I eagerly await your response. Arachno-Socialism is a wish to have milk without consideration for the cow. It is childish wishful thinking at it's finest. |
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Arachno-Socialism is a wish to have milk without consideration for the cow. It is childish wishful thinking at it's finest. So you've identified the problem. Replace the cow. |
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I think he is fantastic he has a bunch of the right wings version of moon bats wringing their hands. I do not support a socialist utopia or most of his views if you reread the thread and see where I post disagreeing with his thoughts on illegals and such. ETA: that being said I do not support most of the views in this thread ... So then what do you believe? ETA: Strong domestic manufacturing laws, hardline immigration reform, 2A rights, the abolishment of RTW bullshit, the separation of the AFL CIO into the AFL and CIO, universal healthcare, education reform in the way of pushing apprenticeships more over basket weaving, etc. Oh a butthurt union dinosaur.
I suppose in a sense that may be true, but unfortunately I am not old enough to be a dinosaur that would have reaped the benefits of strong unionism. Then just naive I see. |
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How many fetuses have been killed since planned parenthood was formed? You call that going down? Figures... |
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then just naive I see. Quote HistoryQuoted: Then just naive I see. Nah ... I fervently believe in unionism, but I am not naive of why it is where it is currently. |
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