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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:49:25 PM EDT
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Why don't police arrest people who hire illegals? Felonies, tax evasion, ongoing criminal conspiracy, RICO, perjury, asset forfiture, civil liability, etc. Lots of legal tools. Because most of congress would go to jail. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:49:35 PM EDT
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Because both democrats and republicans want them here. But for different reasons.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:49:58 PM EDT
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Because they don't give a shit.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:50:32 PM EDT
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Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ?
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:51:27 PM EDT
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Because the elites and establishment in both parties do not want this to happen.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:55:18 PM EDT
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Because everyone wants a housekeeper and a guy to mow their lawn but they don't want to admit they are the problem.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:56:11 PM EDT
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Why don't local police do workplace and payroll inspections?
Are you looking for a real answer or GD outrage? Because they'll be vastly different. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:59:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:59:42 PM EDT
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police work for the politicians
politicians have decided that America's demographics need to change |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:02:41 PM EDT
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Why don't local police do workplace and payroll inspections? Are you looking for a real answer or GD outrage? Because they'll be vastly different. You can admit to multiple felonies on a forum full of cops yet no fear of prosecution. Why shouldn't I go down to home depot and hire some? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:03:40 PM EDT
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The state caused the problem. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? SHERIFF: WON'T JAIL UNDOCUMENTED NON-CRIMINALS - WATSONVILLE, CA
Sheriff Phil Wowak told a group of Watsonville residents and leaders that enforcing deportation law was not the job of sheriff's deputies or police officers in Santa Cruz County during an emotionally-charged forum about Secure Communities Wednesday evening. The event—organized by County Supervisor Greg Caput—brought service providers, elected officials and law enforcement together to speak with residents about immigration issues and specifically Secure Communities, a federal program that identifies illegal immigrants through county jail systems and deports them. "We do not ask for your citizenship when you are the victim of a crime or the witness to a crime," Wowak said to those who gathered at the Veteran's Memorial Hall on East Beach Street for the event. He added that local police should not be checking people's immigration status; that is a federal issue. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:06:22 PM EDT
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Because they don't give a shit. Then why all the whining about mythical anchor babies? The Donald bots are ready to shred the constitution but no one wants to enforce the laws we have now? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:06:31 PM EDT
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Because people with money, power, and influence would one of the three I just listed.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why all the whining about mythical anchor babies? The Donald bots are ready to shred the constitution but no one wants to enforce the laws we have now? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because they don't give a shit. Then why all the whining about mythical anchor babies? The Donald bots are ready to shred the constitution but no one wants to enforce the laws we have now? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:08:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The state caused the problem. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ?  |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:09:29 PM EDT
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Because most of congress would go to jail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't police arrest people who hire illegals? Felonies, tax evasion, ongoing criminal conspiracy, RICO, perjury, asset forfiture, civil liability, etc. Lots of legal tools. Because most of congress would go to jail. Isn't that enough of a reason to do it? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:10:04 PM EDT
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Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? Because we are taxed to pay for this. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:10:21 PM EDT
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Why don't police arrest people who hire illegals? Felonies, tax evasion, ongoing criminal conspiracy, RICO, perjury, asset forfiture, civil liability, etc. Lots of legal tools. why don't you give Sheriff Joe Arpaio a call here in AZ and ask him how all the federal lawsuits and mandated federal monitoring is going. He was very good at raiding businesses and catching Illegals. The Feds didn't find that funny. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:12:42 PM EDT
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You can admit to multiple felonies on a forum full of cops yet no fear of prosecution. Why shouldn't I go down to home depot and hire some? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't local police do workplace and payroll inspections? Are you looking for a real answer or GD outrage? Because they'll be vastly different. You can admit to multiple felonies on a forum full of cops yet no fear of prosecution. Why shouldn't I go down to home depot and hire some? Asking this question here is just looking for the GD outrage answer. It's a circle jerk, or at best, a group Dutch rudder. People will say for more democrat votes, or to much savings for a politicians landscaping crew. The honest answer is time, money and shits. Police don't have enough time, enough resources our enough shits to play ICE. And the public at large doesn't want to pay the additional taxes to see this effectively enforced. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:15:22 PM EDT
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why don't you give Sheriff Joe Arpaio a call here in AZ and ask him how all the federal lawsuits and mandated federal monitoring is going. He was very good at raiding businesses and catching Illegals. The Feds didn't find that funny. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't police arrest people who hire illegals? Felonies, tax evasion, ongoing criminal conspiracy, RICO, perjury, asset forfiture, civil liability, etc. Lots of legal tools. why don't you give Sheriff Joe Arpaio a call here in AZ and ask him how all the federal lawsuits and mandated federal monitoring is going. He was very good at raiding businesses and catching Illegals. The Feds didn't find that funny. This. We’re no longer allowed to ask. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:15:45 PM EDT
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Economics
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:17:30 PM EDT
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Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? US Constitution. Article I... The Congress shall have the power to ... establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:23:04 PM EDT
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Because immigration status is a federal problem enforced under federal law.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:23:21 PM EDT
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Why don't "the people" arrest them?
They did back in the 1770's when this country was founded. Ya know, back when people actually gave a shit and didn't demand the government do something. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:26:12 PM EDT
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Because immigration status is a federal problem enforced under federal law. tell that to Joe Arpiao |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:29:33 PM EDT
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OP if you're so worried about what other people do, take matters into your own hands. Don't be a keyboard commando.
DO SOMETHING! |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:29:41 PM EDT
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Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? Maintaining border security is an actual legitimate function of the state. It's in the Constitution and everything. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:32:07 PM EDT
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Because they don't give a shit. And get paid well too. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: tell that to Joe Arpiao Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because immigration status is a federal problem enforced under federal law. tell that to Joe Arpiao |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:35:08 PM EDT
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Because both democrats and republicans want them here. But for different reasons. what does that have to do with cops? 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:40:30 PM EDT
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I can only speak for Texas, but in Texas the police cannot enforce federal law. ( in very specialized situations they can) I imagine it is the same in other states.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:40:50 PM EDT
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The very same reason they don't arrest those who break federal firearms laws... <snort>
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:41:44 PM EDT
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Maintaining border security is an actual legitimate function of the state. It's in the Constitution and everything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? Maintaining border security is an actual legitimate function of the state. It's in the Constitution and everything. Please, educate me further. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:49:39 PM EDT
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Why don't police arrest people who hire illegals? Felonies, tax evasion, ongoing criminal conspiracy, RICO, perjury, asset forfiture, civil liability, etc. Lots of legal tools. No law in Texas. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:55:16 PM EDT
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Maintaining border security is an actual legitimate function of the state. It's in the Constitution and everything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? Maintaining border security is an actual legitimate function of the state. It's in the Constitution and everything. Link? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:56:36 PM EDT
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Please, educate me further. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you expect the state to fix all of your problems ? Maintaining border security is an actual legitimate function of the state. It's in the Constitution and everything. Please, educate me further. U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8
The Congress shall have power to ..... establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States; U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:57:15 PM EDT
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Asking this question here is just looking for the GD outrage answer. It's a circle jerk, or at best, a group Dutch rudder. People will say for more democrat votes, or to much savings for a politicians landscaping crew. The honest answer is time, money and shits. Police don't have enough time, enough resources our enough shits to play ICE. And the public at large doesn't want to pay the additional taxes to see this effectively enforced. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't local police do workplace and payroll inspections? Are you looking for a real answer or GD outrage? Because they'll be vastly different. You can admit to multiple felonies on a forum full of cops yet no fear of prosecution. Why shouldn't I go down to home depot and hire some? Asking this question here is just looking for the GD outrage answer. It's a circle jerk, or at best, a group Dutch rudder. People will say for more democrat votes, or to much savings for a politicians landscaping crew. The honest answer is time, money and shits. Police don't have enough time, enough resources our enough shits to play ICE. And the public at large doesn't want to pay the additional taxes to see this effectively enforced. So it's not a priority at all. Specialized units for prostitution, drugs and parking tickets.... but zero enforcement on 30 million felonies everyday. Parking is a higher priority than our imigration problem. Got it. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:00:52 PM EDT
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I worked with like 3 illegals back in 2005ish when I was 15 washing dishes at a restaurant in arizona. One of them was British too.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:01:19 PM EDT
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I like Arpaio. He fucking loathes the establishment and their lies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because immigration status is a federal problem enforced under federal law. tell that to Joe Arpiao He's a grandstanding politician - just like the establishment he so loathes. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:02:22 PM EDT
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So it's not a priority at all. Specialized units for prostitution, drugs and parking tickets.... but zero enforcement on 30 million felonies everyday. Parking is a higher priority than our imigration problem. Got it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't local police do workplace and payroll inspections? Are you looking for a real answer or GD outrage? Because they'll be vastly different. You can admit to multiple felonies on a forum full of cops yet no fear of prosecution. Why shouldn't I go down to home depot and hire some? Asking this question here is just looking for the GD outrage answer. It's a circle jerk, or at best, a group Dutch rudder. People will say for more democrat votes, or to much savings for a politicians landscaping crew. The honest answer is time, money and shits. Police don't have enough time, enough resources our enough shits to play ICE. And the public at large doesn't want to pay the additional taxes to see this effectively enforced. So it's not a priority at all. Specialized units for prostitution, drugs and parking tickets.... but zero enforcement on 30 million felonies everyday. Parking is a higher priority than our imigration problem. Got it. You're going to have to stop right now, because your making entirely too much sense. I agree OP and so do many more, its just that there havent been enough to stand up together, scream out loud, that were mad as hell and aint gonna take it anymore. Besides the other side feels were only talk. Yep.....535 elected officials in Washington DC, ruling 300 million subjects. Seems impossible doesnt it? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:05:23 PM EDT
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I can only speak for Texas, but in Texas the police cannot enforce federal law. ( in very specialized situations they can) I imagine it is the same in other states. Are all federal laws ignored in Texas or is there federal enforcement, with local cooperation of course, on every other issue excpt this one? Are there other Felonies I can admit to on public forums without fear of prosecution? Why shouldn't I hire illegals to mow my yard? Is it a crime if there's no enforcement? 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:06:47 PM EDT
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Why don't police arrest people who hire illegals? Felonies, tax evasion, ongoing criminal conspiracy, RICO, perjury, asset forfiture, civil liability, etc. Lots of legal tools. Those are all Federal statutes, except in very narrow instances local PD's are not empowered to enforce Federal Statute |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:08:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they don't give a shit. A lot of people absolutely give a shit. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:12:20 PM EDT
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You can admit to multiple felonies on a forum full of cops yet no fear of prosecution. Why shouldn't I go down to home depot and hire some? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't local police do workplace and payroll inspections? Are you looking for a real answer or GD outrage? Because they'll be vastly different. You can admit to multiple felonies on a forum full of cops yet no fear of prosecution. Why shouldn't I go down to home depot and hire some? Because in most cases it isnt a violation of your state laws...I dont know shit about Wa state statutes, but i do know that NJ has zero mention of Illegal immigration Status, or hiring of Illegals. The only time I can even CALL ICE if I had a suspected IA was when they had committed one of a specific list of crimes, and only that because we had [issed and moaned enough about the lack of INS, then ICE response that the State AG got involved and went to the US attorney. I do know that ICE at least in my area, was pretty much constantly deporting people. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:12:38 PM EDT
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It seemed to become an issue in the State of Idaho a few years ago. The farms to include dairy farms were on notice that they would randomly inspectd by local authorities as 90% of employees were estimated as illegal in 2013.
Funny, the issue just vanished as my personal belief was that it would of crushed the farming industry. I would expect that to be the case not only here but in other states as well as other industries that employ immigrants. The economic impact would be unimaginable. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:16:45 PM EDT
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In eight hours I average 14 calls. Exactly when would you suggest I go look for illegals? No shit. I'll wait.
Last Saturday I answered 28. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:22:12 PM EDT
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Those are all Federal statutes, except in very narrow instances local PD's are not empowered to enforce Federal Statute Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't police arrest people who hire illegals? Felonies, tax evasion, ongoing criminal conspiracy, RICO, perjury, asset forfiture, civil liability, etc. Lots of legal tools. Those are all Federal statutes, except in very narrow instances local PD's are not empowered to enforce Federal Statute Are there no federal courts and federal enforcement of other federal laws in these states? Local, state and federal enforcement is absent on this issue. All are to blame. If I use a MG local cops demand to see tax records as proof of innocence from federal law. But a meat packing plant with thousands of illegal employees and no one goes to jail. Decade after decade. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:23:35 PM EDT
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The only time I can even CALL ICE if I had a suspected IA was when they had committed one of a specific list of crimes, and only that because we had [issed and moaned enough about the lack of INS, then ICE response that the State AG got involved and went to the US attorney. I called them once and they asked me "What do you want us to do?", needless to say I never bothered calling them again. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:25:25 PM EDT
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Are there no federal courts and federal enforcement of other federal laws in these states? Local, state and federal enforcement is absent on this issue. All are to blame. If I use a MG local cops demand to see tax records as proof of innocence from federal law. But a meat packing plant with thousands of illegal employees and no one goes to jail. Decade after decade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't police arrest people who hire illegals? Felonies, tax evasion, ongoing criminal conspiracy, RICO, perjury, asset forfiture, civil liability, etc. Lots of legal tools. Those are all Federal statutes, except in very narrow instances local PD's are not empowered to enforce Federal Statute Are there no federal courts and federal enforcement of other federal laws in these states? Local, state and federal enforcement is absent on this issue. All are to blame. If I use a MG local cops demand to see tax records as proof of innocence from federal law. But a meat packing plant with thousands of illegal employees and no one goes to jail. Decade after decade. If you had an MG in NJ you'd be arrested under NJ statute, not Federal..... I complained for YEARS about Illegals, got me jammed up when i asked an INS Supervisor exactly what they DID so, since they didn seem interested in Illegals. But yeah..whatever dude...FTP, All cops are lazy assholes.. yadda yadda yadda...Happy now? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:25:54 PM EDT
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They have tickets to write.
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