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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:16:16 PM EDT
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Firearms in Australia are grouped into categories set out in the National Firearm Agreement, with different levels of control. The categories are:
These categories – A,B,C,D and H were those determined by the NFA. The others listed here are determined by the states that have implement them at their own discretion. <dl style="margin-top: 0.2em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; color: rgb(37, 37, 37); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> <dd style="margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; ">Target shooters are limited to handguns of .38 or 9mm calibre or less and magazines may hold a maximum of 10 rounds. Participants in certain "approved" pistol competitions may acquire handguns up to .45", currently Single Action Shooting and Metallic Silhouette. IPSC shooting is approved for 9mm/.38/.357 sig, handguns that meet the IPSC rules, but larger calibres are not approved for IPSC handgun shooting contests in Australia.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia#cite_note-5][5][/url] Category H barrels must be at least 100mm (3.94") long for revolvers, and 120mm (4.72") for semi-automatic pistols unless the pistols are clearly ISSF target pistols; magazines are restricted to 10 rounds. Handguns held as part of a collection were exempted from these limits.</dd> </dl>
Certain antique firearms (generally muzzle loading black powder flintlock firearms manufactured before 1 January 1901) can in some states be legally held without licences.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia#cite_note-6][6][/url] In other states they are subject to the same requirements as modern firearms.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia#cite_note-7][7][/url] All single-shot muzzleloading firearms manufactured before 1 January 1901 are considered antique firearms. Four states require licences for antique percussion revolvers and cartridge repeating firearms, but in Queensland and Victoria a person may possess such a firearm without a licence, so long as the firearm is registered (percussion revolvers require a license in Victoria). Australia has very tight restrictions on some items which are far less controlled in comparable societies such as New Zealand. Air pistols, elsewhere unrestricted, are as difficult to get as centrefire and rimfire handguns, and low-powered airguns are as difficult as cartridge arms to license. Airsoft guns are banned in all states and non-firing replicas banned in most. Suppressors (or 'silencers') which are legal in the UK and New Zealand, are restricted to a few government bodies.  |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:18:37 PM EDT
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Which a number of people could legally keep after 1996. Not all semi autos were confiscated or banned. Current Aussie law allows certain folks to keep their semi autos. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you look at the number of guns imported into Australia prior to their ban, the turn in numbers look laughable. Only certain guns were banned in Oz They imported a lot of SKS, 10/22s, and M1 carbines. Which a number of people could legally keep after 1996. Not all semi autos were confiscated or banned. Current Aussie law allows certain folks to keep their semi autos. Thats pretty much BS. VERY few people are given class D licenses as you have to prove the need for owning such a firearm. Huge stations out in the middle of nowhere might have a shooter with a class D license for culling large amounts of camels and roos from a helicopter. I know of one guy several years ago over at falfiles that ended up getting a class D license but it took over a year and even then the market for class D firearms is VERY limited. He was looking to buy an L1A1 and the one he found was around $9000 AUD. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:22:47 PM EDT
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Gun violence is zero in North Korea. I guess it really is a workers paradise. Yeah but mortar and anti-aircraft gun violence is WAY up. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:25:00 PM EDT
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Culture is a significant factor impacting violent crime rates that should not be overlooked.
Australia Ethnic groups: white 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1% http://www.indexmundi.com/australia/demographics_profile.html |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:29:20 PM EDT
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The Australian government conducted a study 10 years after the Port Arthur massacre and concluded the homicide rate did not decline as a result of the gun control control legislation and gun seizures. The homicide rate was declining when the Port Arthur incident occurred and the rate of decline was unchanged after. Apparently the choice of weapons changed. There has NOT been any more incidents of mass murder again, however.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:30:22 PM EDT
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Thats pretty much BS. VERY few people are given class D licenses as you have to prove the need for owning such a firearm. Huge stations out in the middle of nowhere might have a shooter with a class D license for culling large amounts of camels and roos from a helicopter. I know of one guy several years ago over at falfiles that ended up getting a class D license but it took over a year and even then the market for class D firearms is VERY limited. He was looking to buy an L1A1 and the one he found was around $9000 AUD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you look at the number of guns imported into Australia prior to their ban, the turn in numbers look laughable. Only certain guns were banned in Oz They imported a lot of SKS, 10/22s, and M1 carbines. Which a number of people could legally keep after 1996. Not all semi autos were confiscated or banned. Current Aussie law allows certain folks to keep their semi autos. Thats pretty much BS. VERY few people are given class D licenses as you have to prove the need for owning such a firearm. Huge stations out in the middle of nowhere might have a shooter with a class D license for culling large amounts of camels and roos from a helicopter. I know of one guy several years ago over at falfiles that ended up getting a class D license but it took over a year and even then the market for class D firearms is VERY limited. He was looking to buy an L1A1 and the one he found was around $9000 AUD. Some are Category C weapons. As for how many exist and what are the laws of the different states for having one, I dunno. But people like to think they were totally banned. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:31:30 PM EDT
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The Australian government conducted a study 10 years after the Port Arthur massacre and concluded the homicide rate did not decline as a result of the gun control control legislation and gun seizures. The homicide rate was declining when the Port Arthur incident occurred and the rate of decline was unchanged after. Apparently the choice of weapons changed. There has NOT been any more incidents of mass murder again, however. That was the point of the Port Arthur aftermath NFA No mass murder with SLRs. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:41:08 PM EDT
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This may be retread area, but they always talk about firearms violence, murders, and suicide. They never talk about the overall rate of those things. They talk about firearms murder, did the overall murder rate go down? Significantly so? Did suicide rates drop? Significantly so? Did the economy get better? Did that have any influence on those rates? Nobody talks about any of that. Outlaw cars and car deaths will go down, motorcycle deaths will probably increase though.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:42:19 PM EDT
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Considering how difficult a class D license is to obtain... they ARE banned. very, very few professional shooters are given a class D
class C is for semi-auto RIMFIRE rifles with a capacity under 10 rounds, and pump action shotguns under 5 rounds. again, this license is also fairly difficult to obtain. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:43:07 PM EDT
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So, if I want to commit suicide and I don't have gun, I'm just SOL, huh? Wanna borrow some heroin? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:44:22 PM EDT
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Bet you won't see a study funded on the statistics of rape, home invasions, or assaults after the confiscation. Reports of Kangaroo rape went up 87%. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:45:23 PM EDT
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Considering how difficult a class D license is to obtain... they ARE banned. very, very few professional shooters are given a class D class C is for semi-auto RIMFIRE rifles with a capacity under 10 rounds, and pump action shotguns under 5 rounds. again, this license is also fairly difficult to obtain. 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:01:03 PM EDT
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650,000 guns confiscated wouldn't even put a dent in AR15s - that's what? A year's worth of AR15 sales? And with around 300 million guns in the United States, you'd need to confiscate 2.8 million guns to even hit the numbers suggested by that questionable study (3500 guns per 100,000 gun owners rate) - which still wouldn't even be 1% of firearms in the U. S.
Even if you believe that silly shit, that plan is so impractical you might as well plan on confiscating firearms from the back of your flying unicorn. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:01:47 PM EDT
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Considering how difficult a class D license is to obtain... they ARE banned. very, very few professional shooters are given a class D class C is for semi-auto RIMFIRE rifles with a capacity under 10 rounds, and pump action shotguns under 5 rounds. again, this license is also fairly difficult to obtain.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYe0Qi1J3OUThanks for proving my point with that video! |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:25:18 PM EDT
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The only question I have is the murder rate now zero?
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:32:02 PM EDT
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Bet you won't see a study funded on the statistics of rape, home invasions, or assaults after the confiscation. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:39:39 PM EDT
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There would be a very sudden rise in gun deaths if confiscation were attempted here.  |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:42:55 PM EDT
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so they didn't have to turn their guns in... but keeping them and getting caught with one would result in a severe punishment? I personally would go bury mine in a safe place and never say a fkn word bout it. Sundown |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:52:40 PM EDT
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Yawn. I dont give a shit about another country or what did or didnt do. We are free, have the second amendment, and are supposed to be smart enough not to let the actions of an infinitley small number of crazy people define our freedoms or affect our legislature. Politicians trying to ban guns (especially after a madman kills somebody/people) are at best just plain ignorant and at worst they are opportunistic tyrants looking for power. The ignorant should be removed from office and the tyrant should be hung. Will not give up my guns or my right to aquire them. Time to take it back.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 9:19:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDisarmed population + massive immigration = lots more crime. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 9:42:32 PM EDT
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I'll bet very few go the deep way. Most have to get to work in the AM, and the resistors will wake up at 4am with a pistol in their cheek and no way to fight back. Call this vet what you want, but putting food on the table is far more noble, and all the tough talk posturing is just that, they've already taken most of your rights and you got steamed, looked at your rifle and went to work in the AM. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There would be a very sudden rise in gun deaths if confiscation were attempted here. Unfortunately I bet you are right but not in the good way. Most Americans would be fine turning them in and even ratting out the holdouts. What has the past 10 years in Iraq and A-stan taught us...as American citizens...mainly watching it on the nightly news... Here's a quote from my little red book of knowledge, JFK's commencement speech to the 1961 class at Annapolis: ...When there is an enemy to fight in open combat...many serve, all applaud, and the tide of patriotism runs high. But when there is a long slow struggle, with no immediate, visible foe, your choice will seem hard indeed... |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 9:52:11 PM EDT
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650,000 guns confiscated wouldn't even put a dent in AR15s - that's what? A year's worth of AR15 sales? And with around 300 million guns in the United States, you'd need to confiscate 2.8 million guns to even hit the numbers suggested by that questionable study (3500 guns per 100,000 gun owners rate) - which still wouldn't even be 1% of firearms in the U. S. Even if you believe that silly shit, that plan is so impractical you might as well plan on confiscating firearms from the back of your flying unicorn. How many Bridgeports are out there and blocks of aluminum? How about 80% lowers and jigs? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 10:05:53 PM EDT
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Australia: population 23.8 million. Not to mention an entirely different demographic.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 10:11:15 PM EDT
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So, if I want to commit suicide and I don't have gun, I'm just SOL, huh? Of course just look at other developed country suicide rates that have no firearms like Japan and France....wait...what? |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 1:50:28 AM EDT
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I have a ton of problems with American culture, and I'm sure that when the confiscations start up here, plenty of people will comply, most people. But who cares, in the end those retarded pussies are neither here nor there.
We have this amazing vein of dudes in this country, small, but super effective, that understand what's at stake. I have met them in every town, every state. Everyone from truck drivers, drug dealers, soldiers, enginers, doctors, to CEOs. When it starts to get really weird in the coming years, I have every confidence that the very same people that make civilization work, will have recourse to arms and intellect enough to rebuild what we will have lost. We are on the brink of a dark age, but think of the advantage we have as modern Americans. This is after all, the most telegraphed punch in history, and we still have the guns. Very few of our ancestors could say the same. Everyone relax, consider how stupid and fragile our enemies really are. "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 1:57:17 AM EDT
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Fuckin try it.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:00:02 AM EDT
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They wouldn't lie now would they? |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:00:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:02:35 AM EDT
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freedom isn't free. Before this BS in aussieland, I actually thought it might be a cool place to retire too. I love rural land, and aussieland has a shitload of it. Seemed like a good match. After the gun thing though, no way in hell. Fuck that shit.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:08:53 AM EDT
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So, if I want to commit suicide and I don't have gun, I'm just SOL, huh? That's hilarious, isn't it? Like the presence of a gun makes people want to do it, or they are just too lazy to find another way. 
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:10:58 AM EDT
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Of course just look at other developed country suicide rates that have no firearms like Japan and France....wait...what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, if I want to commit suicide and I don't have gun, I'm just SOL, huh? Of course just look at other developed country suicide rates that have no firearms like Japan and France....wait...what? China has a crazy amount of suicides as well. Apparently working 12-16 hours a day in a sweat shop doesn't give one a very fulfilling life. Who knew? |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:14:03 AM EDT
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Of course the Harvard idiots only cherry picked the data. The suicide rate didn't go down, only the method did, and not really when it came to Suicide by Cop as that is still a gun. Next, their country does not have the huge cities riddled with crime run by stupid Dumbocrats! In America, good law abiding citizens would turn in their firearms and then only the Government and criminals would have firearms. Lastly their SUBJECTS don't have a Constitutional required duty to overthrow said government if it become hostile to its citizens as we do! THAT TAKES FIREARMS |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:16:21 AM EDT
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President Trump won't let that shit happen here Yep but president Bush or president Clinton will make sure that shit will happen here. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:21:50 AM EDT
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. Of course the Harvard idiots only cherry picked the data. The suicide rate didn't go down, only the method did, and not really when it came to Suicide by Cop as that is still a gun. Next, their country does not have the huge cities riddled with crime run by stupid Dumbocrats! In America, good law abiding citizens would turn in their firearms and then only the Government and criminals would have firearms. Lastly their SUBJECTS don't have a Constitutional required duty to overthrow said government if it become hostile to its citizens as we do! THAT TAKES FIREARMS Hemenway once calculated 55,000 DGUs/year. You would think that even as conservative an estimate as that would factor into balancing out those 30,000 "gun deaths"/ year. But not so much. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:47:25 AM EDT
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How many Bridgeports are out there and blocks of aluminum? How about 80% lowers and jigs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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650,000 guns confiscated wouldn't even put a dent in AR15s - that's what? A year's worth of AR15 sales? And with around 300 million guns in the United States, you'd need to confiscate 2.8 million guns to even hit the numbers suggested by that questionable study (3500 guns per 100,000 gun owners rate) - which still wouldn't even be 1% of firearms in the U. S. Even if you believe that silly shit, that plan is so impractical you might as well plan on confiscating firearms from the back of your flying unicorn. How many Bridgeports are out there and blocks of aluminum? How about 80% lowers and jigs? Australia has a major problem with homemade guns. It seems once they are outlawed people no longer care to make semiautomatics when you go to prison the same whether they are fully automatic or semiautomatic. ETA: I wouldn't be too surprised if the same happened in NY. Semiautomatic "assault weapons" and machineguns are both covered under the same law. Though the safe act made assault weapons a class D violent felony while machineguns are a class D nonviolent felony so the sentencing guidelines for possession of an assault weapon are harsher than for possession of a machinegun. The minimum sentence for possession of an assault weapon in NY is a mandatory 2 years in prison while the minimum for possession of a machinegun is probation. The maximum penalty is the same for both, 7 years. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:07:16 AM EDT
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Did the founders of their country mandate that the public needs to maintain arms to overthrow the government if need be? Because I don't give two fucks otherwise. Stupid attitude. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:31:38 PM EDT
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Oh look, Ezra Klein's crappy website. The Washington Post's Ezra Klein: "My friends on the right don’t like to hear this, but the Constitution is not a clear document. Written 100 years ago, when America had thirteen states and very different problems, it rarely speaks directly to the questions we ask it." http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ek13-e1390333052663.jpg Wow, what a stupid fuck! It's sad that we have people that want to take our rights away in the first place. It's even worse when they don't know what the hell they're talking about.  
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:35:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to Wikipedia, Mexico's per-capita gun homicide rate is almost triple what ours is - In spite of having some of the most draconian gun laws in the world. http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7402/homicidesbycountry.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gun violence is zero in North Korea. I guess it really is a workers paradise. According to Wikipedia, Mexico's per-capita gun homicide rate is almost triple what ours is - In spite of having some of the most draconian gun laws in the world. http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7402/homicidesbycountry.jpg And if you remove the firearm homicides committed by a certain 13% of the population, our rate goes down to 1.9%.  |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:40:20 PM EDT
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So, if I want to commit suicide and I don't have gun, I'm just SOL, huh? Yep. Sounds like you just need to soak in a hot bath with a nice bottle of wine and some muscle relaxers. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:42:24 PM EDT
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Where's the data that talks about knife, tools, baseballs bat, etc crimes went down?
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:45:33 PM EDT
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Why do people from other countries like that always believe we want to be like them?
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:45:42 PM EDT
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Oh look, Ezra Klein's crappy website. The Washington Post's Ezra Klein: "My friends on the right don’t like to hear this, but the Constitution is not a clear document. Written 100 years ago, when America had thirteen states and very different problems, it rarely speaks directly to the questions we ask it." http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ek13-e1390333052663.jpg For some strange reason, I want to throat punch him... with a shovel. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:50:13 PM EDT
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However, the paper's findings about suicide were statistically significant — and astounding. Buying back 3,500 guns correlated with a 74 percent drop in firearm suicides. Non-gun suicides didn't increase to make up the decline. That's horse shit. Gun suicides did decrease, and non-gun suicides increased. It isn't a one-for-one replacement, because the suicide rate varies with other factors. Here are true facts from official government statistics: in the last 20 years, encompassing the big ban & confiscation program in Australia, the homicide rate there declined by 30-something percent. In the last 20 years, encompassing the spread of concealed carry, castle doctrine, and the sunset of the "assault weapons" ban in the US, the homicide rate here decline by 30-something percent. Lesson: gun laws have nothing whatsoever to do with homicide rates. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:55:53 PM EDT
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Oh look, Ezra Klein's crappy website. The Washington Post's Ezra Klein: "My friends on the right don’t like to hear this, but the Constitution is not a clear document. Written 100 years ago, when America had thirteen states and very different problems, it rarely speaks directly to the questions we ask it." http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ek13-e1390333052663.jpg For some strange reason, I want to throat punch him... with a shovel. 1) I very much doubt he has any friends on the right. 2) Just because it doesn't give the answers you want doesn't mean that it doesn't speak directly to the questions we ask it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 1:03:06 PM EDT
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The Harvard publication is titled Bulletins, with exactly that type style in the name, and this description:
Firearms research summaries provided by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center To reduce the societal burden of injury and violence– through surveillance, research, intervention, evaluation, outreach, dissemination, and training.
Our Funders The David Bohnett Foundation Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) The Joyce Foundation National Institute on Drug Abuse National Institute of Mental Health U.S. Dept of Health & Human Services – Maternal and Child Health Bureau Pretty sure the Joyce Foundation is a known anti-gun rights group. Bohnett Foundation is: 
Yes, that Harvard outfit researching "injuries" has a definite anti-gun bias.
"Gun violence research" at major universities is almost always biased, and never gets cited as such when the media quotes their conclusions. It's like global warming. It's like science and tries to look like science, but the fix is in. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 1:09:17 PM EDT
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Like I've always said, I will turn in my guns during confiscation, I just won't do it till I've turned over all my bullets individually and at high velocity first. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There would be a very sudden rise in gun deaths if confiscation were attempted here. This Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 1:16:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Harvard publication is titled Bulletins, with exactly that type style in the name, and this description: Think they have an agenda? Here's their mission statement and major funders: Pretty sure the Joyce Foundation is a known anti-gun rights group. Bohnett Foundation is: http://www.bohnettfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/FeaturedImages_600x400_GunControl-300x200.jpg Yes, that Harvard outfit researching "injuries" has a definite anti-gun bias. "Gun violence research" at major universities is almost always biased, and never gets cited as such when the media quotes their conclusions. It's like global warming. It's like science and tries to look like science, but the fix is in. Quote HistoryQuoted: The Harvard publication is titled Bulletins, with exactly that type style in the name, and this description: Firearms research summaries provided by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center To reduce the societal burden of injury and violence– through surveillance, research, intervention, evaluation, outreach, dissemination, and training. Our Funders The David Bohnett Foundation Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) The Joyce Foundation National Institute on Drug Abuse National Institute of Mental Health U.S. Dept of Health & Human Services – Maternal and Child Health Bureau Pretty sure the Joyce Foundation is a known anti-gun rights group. Bohnett Foundation is: http://www.bohnettfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/FeaturedImages_600x400_GunControl-300x200.jpg Yes, that Harvard outfit researching "injuries" has a definite anti-gun bias. "Gun violence research" at major universities is almost always biased, and never gets cited as such when the media quotes their conclusions. It's like global warming. It's like science and tries to look like science, but the fix is in.  |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:25:46 PM EDT
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Is that a Chinese Assault Rifle from Fallout? I.E. not even a real gun?
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The Harvard publication is titled Bulletins, with exactly that type style in the name, and this description: Firearms research summaries provided by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center To reduce the societal burden of injury and violence– through surveillance, research, intervention, evaluation, outreach, dissemination, and training.
Our Funders The David Bohnett Foundation Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) The Joyce Foundation National Institute on Drug Abuse National Institute of Mental Health U.S. Dept of Health & Human Services – Maternal and Child Health Bureau Pretty sure the Joyce Foundation is a known anti-gun rights group. Bohnett Foundation is: http://www.bohnettfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/FeaturedImages_600x400_GunControl-300x200.jpg Yes, that Harvard outfit researching "injuries" has a definite anti-gun bias.
"Gun violence research" at major universities is almost always biased, and never gets cited as such when the media quotes their conclusions. It's like global warming. It's like science and tries to look like science, but the fix is in.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 2:29:42 PM EDT
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Article doesn't back up the title. They say that firearm homicides are down. Duh. What is happening to the actual homicide rate? Can you plot it on a graph and show where the confiscation occurred without having it marked for you? Here's how the same program worked out in the UK: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2SW2_lbrxgY/TSx_HwmwClI/AAAAAAAABaQ/SqgzulUPCwo/s1600/Screen%2Bshot%2B2010-12-01%2Bat%2B%2BWednesday%252C%2BDecember%2B1%252C%2B3.10%2BPM.png Fuckin ELE OH ELE, gun grabbing fucks. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 4:22:24 PM EDT
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They can kiss my down under.
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