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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:07:20 PM EDT
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Marlin, during the first couple of years after they were taken over and produced by Remington. Collector's items, they are.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:08:30 PM EDT
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Holland and Holland, upper end Berettas, Merkel, Heym, etc.
And HK WTF? Not even in the same league. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:09:03 PM EDT
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PSA PTAC. Or Anderson. I really like Plum Crazy lowers too.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:11:19 PM EDT
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Glock 19.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:14:50 PM EDT
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Lot's of posters not reading the 2 sentence OP and posting some very nice, but very custom guns.
Highest quality run of the mill/off the rack gun manufacturer? I'm going to say Browning/Winchester. There is absolutely no crap in their entire line and many of their guns can be had with some mighty fancy finishes and stocks. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:15:52 PM EDT
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Savage
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:16:25 PM EDT
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Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg With all due respect Medicfrost, that engraving isn't good at all. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:17:10 PM EDT
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Do you consider Sako to be a regular "run of the mill" manufacturer? Their price point is well above the average, and it's pretty rare to see them in the wild. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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SAKO  Do you consider Sako to be a regular "run of the mill" manufacturer? Their price point is well above the average, and it's pretty rare to see them in the wild. Absolutely. They are not custom guns unlike several mentioned in this thread. Also, they are stocked on the shelves at quite a few major retail stores so I think they're more common than you believe. I've got 3 Sako's and 2 Tikka's myself. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:18:10 PM EDT
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red jacket
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:18:53 PM EDT
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Quality rifles at a reasonable price/ best bang for the buck I'd probably have to go with Sako and Tikka. Don't have a lot of recent experience with pistols so I have no idea there. Sako nails it when it comes to quality. At the rate Beretta has been moving they will soon own the World. 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:20:11 PM EDT
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Merkel. 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:20:30 PM EDT
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Benelli
HK Walther |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:22:12 PM EDT
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Larue...period...I don't own one YET...but after handling one the other day...soon... Came to post this......love my PredatAR |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:22:30 PM EDT
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Mauser
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:22:37 PM EDT
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SAKO At least until the Beretta years. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:22:44 PM EDT
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Pistols, HK.
Long guns, probably Steyr, HK, Beretta. Shotguns, Benelli |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:23:09 PM EDT
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Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg Not sure if serious. Your best gun manufacturers are going to be the high-end shotgun and double rifle guys. Holland, Boss, Fabri, Perazzi, Krieghoff, etc. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:23:44 PM EDT
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Ive always been impressed with Kolar trap guns.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:24:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pistols, HK. Long guns, probably Steyr, HK, Beretta. Shotguns, Benelli |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:27:05 PM EDT
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Colt
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:31:42 PM EDT
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CZ.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:33:33 PM EDT
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In a world of compromise,some don't.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:35:48 PM EDT
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Sphinx builds some sexy pistols.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:35:50 PM EDT
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kimber were is no cat when you need it. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:37:12 PM EDT
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Before you answer...I mean your regular run of the mill manufacturer...not custom shops and not their in house custom shops. Who makes the best "off the line" firearms? Define "best". And when your soul has nearly been crushed by the effort of doing so, I'll pose a few other questions that will cause you to be swallowed by the abyss and you will rue the day you thought to pose this question. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:38:08 PM EDT
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H&K
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:38:24 PM EDT
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Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg   I could cut better lines using my penis.
Owing to its thin tip? 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:38:33 PM EDT
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It's salad days.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:40:35 PM EDT
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Blaser, Famars, Merkel, and H&H come to mind... that might be getting more on the custom side of things.
Big names, I would think Steyr |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:41:27 PM EDT
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Also way too expensive and special to be considered "run of the mill." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Larue Also way too expensive and special to be considered "run of the mill." their stealth line is very nice and the price is right IMO. On par with old school Noveske in a lot of ways. That is saying something. Pistols, CZ, Beretta, Sig, Glock Bolt guns CZ |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:44:07 PM EDT
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SAKO that |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:44:37 PM EDT
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Not sure if serious. Your best gun manufacturers are going to be the high-end shotgun and double rifle guys. Holland, Boss, Fabri, Perazzi, Krieghoff, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg Not sure if serious. Your best gun manufacturers are going to be the high-end shotgun and double rifle guys. Holland, Boss, Fabri, Perazzi, Krieghoff, etc. Many here think any expensive O/U or SXS is on par with their mossturd or or CZ O/U. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:46:15 PM EDT
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With all due respect Medicfrost, that engraving isn't good at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg With all due respect Medicfrost, that engraving isn't good at all. 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many here think any expensive O/U or SXS is on par with their mossturd or or CZ O/U. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg Not sure if serious. Your best gun manufacturers are going to be the high-end shotgun and double rifle guys. Holland, Boss, Fabri, Perazzi, Krieghoff, etc. Many here think any expensive O/U or SXS is on par with their mossturd or or CZ O/U. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:53:00 PM EDT
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I could cut better lines using my penis.
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Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg I could cut better lines using my penis.
I've done better using a Credit Card. 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:53:13 PM EDT
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Of course not...Mossberg and CZ dont match the high-end Turkish guns at all in quality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg Not sure if serious. Your best gun manufacturers are going to be the high-end shotgun and double rifle guys. Holland, Boss, Fabri, Perazzi, Krieghoff, etc. Many here think any expensive O/U or SXS is on par with their mossturd or or CZ O/U. You don't have to tell me that... |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 12:56:58 PM EDT
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retarded statement. MIM =/= cast Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NONE due to mim etc.  retarded statement. MIM =/= cast As an engineer, this is a bigoted and ill-informed statement on many levels. The first and foremost is that MIM was mainly introduced to replace machined parts that were costly and time consuming to manufacture. So even if you think casting = MIM, you would not replace machined parts with cast ones. They were machined for a reason!! That is asking for trouble. Especially when speaking about gun parts that are frequently replaced with MIM to save money, such as extractors. There is not only the issue of strength, but as well as being dimensionally correct. You won't even be on the same ballpark with dimensions. Ok sorry, rant off |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 1:47:13 PM EDT
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Another GD thread goes full derp.
Some of you guys are suggesting that $20,000+ rifles and shotguns are considered "run of the mill" or "off the rack". |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 1:59:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another GD thread goes full derp. Some of you guys are suggesting that $20,000+ rifles and shotguns are considered "run of the mill" or "off the rack". When a company like Holland and Holland that has been in operation since 1835 and makes off the shelf guns as well as heirloom guns AND sporting rifles, then yeah, I think you can claim that. You can walk into most any English gun store (There are many for shotguns, its the second biggest participant sport after fishing) and buy one, as well as lots of gun stores in the US, then yeah. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:02:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:04:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:05:24 PM EDT
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Accuracy International or Sako for rifles. HK for handguns. Beretta/Benelli for shotguns.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:06:58 PM EDT
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With all due respect Medicfrost, that engraving isn't good at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg With all due respect Medicfrost, that engraving isn't good at all. Honestly, I wouldn't use the word "good" at all in describing that engraving much less "2nd to none". |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:08:52 PM EDT
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SAKO that Yep. Sako / Tikka. No better quality for the money. Period. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:35:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, I wouldn't use the word "good" at all in describing that engraving much less "2nd to none". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Gunsmoke makes some quality guns with engraving that is 2nd to none. http://wingman26.com/images/shooting/ag3-engraved.jpg With all due respect Medicfrost, that engraving isn't good at all. Honestly, I wouldn't use the word "good" at all in describing that engraving much less "2nd to none". People's sarcasm meter is broke. I guess we can blame vacaduck and sig for that |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:55:23 PM EDT
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Before you answer...I mean your regular run of the mill manufacturer...not custom shops and not their in house custom shops. Who makes the best "off the line" firearms? To me "best" means a firearm that chambers and ejects a round and fires EVERY TIME you want/need it to and does so while being accurate and with minimal maintenance. For this type of firearm, look at what the Professional Hunters are carrying….. men that bet their lives on their firearms. These are firearms made of steel and are simple designs. Best quality to me means something that goes bang EVERY TIME. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:58:54 PM EDT
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easy peasy its lorcin
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:59:17 PM EDT
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Perazzi
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:21:15 PM EDT
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As an engineer, this is a bigoted and ill-informed statement on many levels. The first and foremost is that MIM was mainly introduced to replace machined parts that were costly and time consuming to manufacture. So even if you think casting = MIM, you would not replace machined parts with cast ones. They were machined for a reason!! That is asking for trouble. Especially when speaking about gun parts that are frequently replaced with MIM to save money, such as extractors. There is not only the issue of strength, but as well as being dimensionally correct. You won't even be on the same ballpark with dimensions. Ok sorry, rant off Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NONE due to mim etc. retarded statement. MIM =/= cast As an engineer, this is a bigoted and ill-informed statement on many levels. The first and foremost is that MIM was mainly introduced to replace machined parts that were costly and time consuming to manufacture. So even if you think casting = MIM, you would not replace machined parts with cast ones. They were machined for a reason!! That is asking for trouble. Especially when speaking about gun parts that are frequently replaced with MIM to save money, such as extractors. There is not only the issue of strength, but as well as being dimensionally correct. You won't even be on the same ballpark with dimensions. Ok sorry, rant off Actually, MIM is an extension of Powered Metal technology. MIM was developed for one reason …… to eliminate the need for secondary operations on PM parts. It is in affect a "blending" of plastic injection technology and PM technology. On straight PM parts, it is impossible to mold say threads and other features into a part. With MIM, it is now possible to do things with Powered Metal that could not be done before……. eliminating the need to add these things thru secondary operations. PM technology has been around for a LONG time….. MIM is "relatively" new. As far as strength is concerned, PM technology has been used for YEARS AND YEARS to make parts like…….. the huge gears in the transmissions of Case excavating equipment, transmission gears and parts in MANY applications, connecting rods in modern motors ( for years) , came shafts, ball joints, etc. etc. MANY MANY parts that are subjected to high stress and loads in every thing we use today. In our cars, trucks, motorcycles, snow machines, atvs, electric motors and appliances ……… just about every thing you come in contact with everyday. The strength is there. As far as maintaining dimensions is concerned, manufacturing processes are improving all the time…… I can only imagine where MIM manufacturing will be in 10 years. As for now? MIM is great technology and has many many uses it is well suited for. Nothing wrong with MIM. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 4:16:06 PM EDT
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