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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:37:11 AM EDT
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I’d bet you could build a nifty killdozer for $20K.
 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:39:05 AM EDT
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FBATFE
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:39:43 AM EDT
[#3]
ATF gonna ATF
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:46:23 AM EDT
[#4]
BATF = Ban All The Firearms
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:50:07 AM EDT
[#5]
That could be financial disaster for some
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:50:58 AM EDT
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We should write a letter to their tech branch!
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:53:05 AM EDT
[#7]
Fuck those fucking fuckers!
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:53:42 AM EDT
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That could be financial disaster for some You mean the FBATFE? I agree. Picking fights with people that can buy $20K+ toys is stupid for gov employees. But let’s face it, that is WHY they are gov employees. Fuck ‘em. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:54:21 AM EDT
[#9]
Damn that would suck.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:55:51 AM EDT
[#10]
It's for our own good guys, we can't be trusted with them there fully automatic assault weapons anyhow. Big brother government is just looking out for us.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:01:41 AM EDT
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I'm sure NFATCA will find a a way to sell us out.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:06:36 AM EDT
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Fuck them with a rusty pitchfork.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:06:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Give peace a chance.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:28:56 AM EDT
[#14]
Keep pushing motherfuckers..... tick fucking tock.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:34:05 AM EDT
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BATF = Ban All The Firearms Especially under this POS. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:36:21 AM EDT
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Especially under this POS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BATF = Ban All The Firearms Especially under this POS. At least they aren't murdering moms. Yet anyway. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:51:58 AM EDT
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On the bright side, maybe this will rustle enough jimmies that we actually do something about it.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:57:41 AM EDT
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Well, that'll piss off some of the guys that own warbirds, and some armor guys that have interesting tracks and tanks.
Those guys have some verrry deep pockets...we'll see were this goes once some congresscritters get an earful.  |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 4:47:22 AM EDT
[#19]
Good.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 4:50:31 AM EDT
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Good. WTF? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 4:54:53 AM EDT
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WTF? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. WTF? The ATF hasn't gone far enough yet apparently. People still put up with their shit, and there is a large group of "Pro 2A" folks who are okay with unconstitutional restrictions on weapons because they can afford the artificially inflated prices to be more equal than others. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 4:56:23 AM EDT
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Is this in response to the court case?
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Posted: 8/27/2015 5:04:43 AM EDT
[#23]
thetruthaboutguns has a history of sketchy stories.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 5:07:24 AM EDT
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When they confiscate them will they transfer them to Mexican drug lords?,w
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Posted: 8/27/2015 5:11:23 AM EDT
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I'm just glad to see the government finally doing something to address the huge violent crime problem amongst the Registered NFA community.
I'm pretty sure you can argue estoppel, laches or some other equitable defense after 30 years. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 5:12:31 AM EDT
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They have confiscated fuzzy ones before.
For instance... AK sears not installed in AKs were confiscated. M16s that were not drilled.. confiscated. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 5:28:35 AM EDT
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Not that we need more, but this is more proof that "common sense" guns laws and background checks or even public safety is not the goal of the antis.
Here we have a highly regulated segment of the gun community, one where not only do these guns/parts require a special ATF tax stamp, the owner must wait months, submit a photo, get finger printed, etc. A type of firearm with the greatest public safety record where in crime is non-existent with it's use. Yet they have them in their sites...which should speak volumes to anyone willing to "compromise" with antis. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 5:37:53 AM EDT
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Effects HK sears that may have been filed on the 20th instead of the 19th.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:11:18 AM EDT
[#29]
That amendment shouldn't have even passed.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:14:10 AM EDT
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We should write a letter to their tech branch! This . . . |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:20:20 AM EDT
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I'm sure NFATCA will find a a way to sell us out. QFT |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:22:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Effects HK sears that may have been filed on the 20th instead of the 19th. I wonder how many Macs and drop in auto sears they punched out in the last days. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:31:14 AM EDT
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I'm confused. This was almost 30 years ago and the government is looking at the paperwork now? Whose desk has this been sitting on all these years?
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:31:48 AM EDT
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"Not only will this wipe out the value of their property (pre-ban machine guns and sears typically sell for upwards of $20,000 each) but it will instantly turn law abiding people into criminals for no reason."
Now, what did Ayn Rand tell us about that? 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:33:24 AM EDT
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I'm confused. This was almost 30 years ago and the government is looking at the paperwork now? Whose desk has this been sitting on all these years? Perhaps you haven't noticed who has been in control of the executive branch of government since 2009? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:43:40 AM EDT
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Ex post facto or, something like that.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:47:50 AM EDT
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Going.to be a lot of butt hurt sear pack owners out there. I wonder how many Macs and drop in auto sears they punched out in the last days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Effects HK sears that may have been filed on the 20th instead of the 19th. Pallets full, I bet. My Mac is an 86, I wonder what the date it on it. Any way to check short of writing the ATF and asking? |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 6:50:21 AM EDT
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Ex post facto or, something like that. There is a lot of misunderstanding about what "ex post facto" means in the gun community. Unfortunately, the government can ban and confiscate things that were previously legal to own. Such laws do not violate the proscription against ex post facto laws. What they cannot do is say YOU committed a criminal act in the past and charge you for it, if what you did in the past was perfectly legal at the time you did it. That would be an unconstitutional, ex post facto law. But yes, they can ban and confiscate your property. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:07:17 AM EDT
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I suggest you look at who wrote the article and then read it. And then tell me what sources are cited for this claim.
Going to the Truth About Guns for News is like going to a fortune teller for your future. 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:13:55 AM EDT
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There is a lot of misunderstanding about what "ex post facto" means in the gun community. Unfortunately, the government can ban and confiscate things that were previously legal to own. Such laws do not violate the proscription against ex post facto laws. What they cannot do is say YOU committed a criminal act in the past and charge you for it, if what you did in the past was perfectly legal at the time you did it. That would be an unconstitutional, ex post facto law. But yes, they can ban and confiscate your property. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ex post facto or, something like that. There is a lot of misunderstanding about what "ex post facto" means in the gun community. Unfortunately, the government can ban and confiscate things that were previously legal to own. Such laws do not violate the proscription against ex post facto laws. What they cannot do is say YOU committed a criminal act in the past and charge you for it, if what you did in the past was perfectly legal at the time you did it. That would be an unconstitutional, ex post facto law. But yes, they can ban and confiscate your property. Right you are. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:16:43 AM EDT
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FBATFE FBHO |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:18:10 AM EDT
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I suggest you look at who wrote the article and then read it. And then tell me what sources are cited for this claim. Going to the Truth About Guns for News is like going to a fortune teller for your future. This Also the title is misleading and no one read the article. The author speculates that a handful of MP5 Sears manufactured on 5/19 but with paperwork submitted on 5/20 MIGHT end up reclassified as post sample MGs. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:21:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:21:49 AM EDT
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Doesn't mean this has made me less Nauseous.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:32:31 AM EDT
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This is EXACTLY why I haven't tied up real money in MGs....worse is coming. Wait for the national arsenal laws which limit the amount of ammo that an individual can possess at any one given time. I can guarantee that's on the horizon.
Want to see the future? Look to Europe, particularly Germany. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:37:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:41:00 AM EDT
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The people who are "OH we cannot get rid of Hughes Amendment because we would lose our $XXXXX.XX investment, it will only be worth $XXX.XX"
Now that those people are going to be forced to lose an investment, perhaps everyone can come together and realize lord Vader at the ATF can simply alter the deal anytime they want. Its time to do away with the Hughes Amendment. Fuck the ATF, Fuck Charlie Rangel with a syphilitic mandingo.  |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:43:11 AM EDT
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You mean the FBATFE? I agree. Picking fights with people that can buy $20K+ toys is stupid for gov employees. But let’s face it, that is WHY they are gov employees. Fuck ‘em. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That could be financial disaster for some You mean the FBATFE? I agree. Picking fights with people that can buy $20K+ toys is stupid for gov employees. But let’s face it, that is WHY they are gov employees. Fuck ‘em. They'll just slow roll them. Government employees dragging it out for decades. It's the process that fucks you... |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:43:51 AM EDT
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If this is true it shows the level of anti gun ideology at the ATF.
They actually have some asshole looking at some "one day late submission" of something 29 years ago to give them a reason to ban guns. What more do we need to know if this is true. 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 7:45:57 AM EDT
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thetruthaboutguns has a history of sketchy stories. |
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