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Simply substitute the 2X4's with 3/4" X 4" plywood. I would also glue some plywood 3/4" by 2" stringers on the main plywood backbones for strength. One down each side, kind of a + pattern if viewed from the front. Think of the plywood structure laying on it's side and picking it up. It will bend/flex. with stringers glued to the side of it, it gives it lateral strength. Use cabinet grade plywood, not sheeting grade. Cabinet grade has more layers inside of it.
FWIW, I use to blow up small scale R/C airplanes and build giant scale out of them. These kind of structure changes were necessary when you are making things much larger than the original 1/8 scale aircraft. EDIT: I see exterior stringers on the bulkheads. Never mind about the stringers on the backbone. |
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
Simply substitute the 2X4's with 3/4" X 4" plywood. . View Quote Ok, let me make sure I'm reading your right. Just 3/4" wide for the main beam? Shouldn't I double them , and come up with 1 1/2" x4"? Somewhere on the boat, probably the 2 oclock position, I'm going to need a 2/4 that I can run my hanging bolts through. This probably needs to run most of the length to help dissipate the weight along the boat. |
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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What about one of the pre-engineered beams they use in home construction?
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Why a German submarine?
Why not an American (USN) WWII submarine? Seriously. |
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Et quant au repos ? Le Caliphate doit être essuyé de la terre.
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Addressed this earlier in the thread. Sorry. It's going to be German. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By ODA_564:
Why a German submarine? Why not an American (USN) WWII submarine? Seriously. Addressed this earlier in the thread. Sorry. It's going to be German. U-505? |
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WhyTanFox : "the world is exponentially more complicated every decade, yet at the same time it has become increasingly simple to demonstrate your ignorance to a large audience. "
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Originally Posted By jestertoo:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By ODA_564:
Why a German submarine? Why not an American (USN) WWII submarine? Seriously. Addressed this earlier in the thread. Sorry. It's going to be German. U-505? Also addressed earlier. |
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"I yelled "HEY!! W.T.F!!!?? as I pointed my M-OU812 urban ass-salt axe handle menacingly at him, just daring him to come take my gummy bears!"
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"If their "fair share" demands that I get nothing for my labors, that it requires me to be a victim, then "public good" be dammed."
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Tag. I've got a huge Gato sub model I am waiting to build... Along with a 1/48 C-130.
I need to figure out how to do special decals to make it match ones I have flown. Any ideas on that art teacher? |
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The Dragon build was awesome! This will be another great build, In!
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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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I thought about designing and building a Lego U-Boat after my 5ish foot Nautilus (20K version) submarine was completed a few months ago.
I just don't have the time or money right now. This thread may change my mind. |
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In 1989, I got to go on a summer exchange trip to West Germany, mainly.
We got to tour the Bavaria Film Studio (Bayerische Filmstadt). That is where they filmed Das Boot. I am thinking if you poked around the internet, assuming the Bayerische Filmstadt is still open, that they would have pictures of the sub they used for that. We got to tour that sub, but I can't remember if it was a real sub, full scale, or what. I think it was in a tank of water, so I would imagine a good 60 to 70% wasn't visible from the outside |
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I loved the Viking ship and stagecoach threads, how in the hell did I miss the dragon one?
I'm so in for this one! |
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"To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill" -The Art of War
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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You sir are a certified nutcase .
In a good way Yup, this is a tag math class is loseing out. |
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Originally Posted By disorientedpilot:
Tag. I've got a huge Gato sub model I am waiting to build... Along with a 1/48 C-130. I need to figure out how to do special decals to make it match ones I have flown. Any ideas on that art teacher? View Quote Where'd you get the Herc kit? OP: those projects are absolutely amazing! |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
I spent too much time with this today cutting out individual cross sections and taping left and right sides together. At least we now have cross sections silhouettes to make stencils out of for each rib. Now I've just got to figure out how to keep them all the same scale when we use the projector. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/712/20692988308_0109d9b728_b.jpg View Quote That's the template diagram you need. Do you know how the scale translates? The projector is a nice tool to have, just make sure you draw reference grid lines on the target sheet so you can keep the scale consistent. Should that prove difficult, you can blow up and print out that template. Print as many copies as you have bulkheads and pin or glue the sheets to the blanks. |
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There's a dick joke in there somewhere.
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In GOD We Trust....Everbody else keep your damn hands where I can see them.
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By cgrant26:
That's the template diagram you need. Do you know how the scale translates? The projector is a nice tool to have, just make sure you draw reference grid lines on the target sheet so you can keep the scale consistent. Should that prove difficult, you can blow up and print out that template. Print as many copies as you have bulkheads and pin or glue the sheets to the blanks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cgrant26:
Originally Posted By guns762:
I spent too much time with this today cutting out individual cross sections and taping left and right sides together. At least we now have cross sections silhouettes to make stencils out of for each rib. Now I've just got to figure out how to keep them all the same scale when we use the projector. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/712/20692988308_0109d9b728_b.jpg That's the template diagram you need. Do you know how the scale translates? The projector is a nice tool to have, just make sure you draw reference grid lines on the target sheet so you can keep the scale consistent. Should that prove difficult, you can blow up and print out that template. Print as many copies as you have bulkheads and pin or glue the sheets to the blanks. I think I'll be ok. I'll try and make sure the grid lines are all the same scale when I have the kids blow these up. |
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By nhsport:
You sir are a certified nutcase . In a good way Yup, this is a tag math class is loseing out. View Quote It does make the year interesting. Hard to get bored with my job when we do something like this. Just wish I could get other teachers in my building as excited about it as I am. They all think I'm nuts too. I will say, it's much easier for me to do crazy projects as opposed to the core classes that are kind of locked into their curriculum. |
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By CombatMP:
Here's my idea after reading what others said. Make it like a halfway diorama. Have the U-boat sorta diving and listed on an angle trying to avoid a few sea mines in front of it. If you could have the robotics team set up a audible Ping! and then an alarm, dive dive dive in german. That would be awesome To add to it I would set up a film of clear blue cellophane across the ceiling a few feet above the sub to simulate the ocean surface. Maybe crumple it for texture and with the skylight it would look awesome. I'd also "float" the mines from fishing wire in the path of the sub and have the chain bolting them to the sea floor end above the students heads so they don't constantly walk into it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CombatMP:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By resq2106:
So in! Question: If it hangs up in that space in the picture, how will it play as far as people being able to view the details? most of the interesting parts are topside. The bottom of the hull is pretty boring. I'm planning on hanging it so it lists to one side at about 45 degrees? Something like that. Here's my idea after reading what others said. Make it like a halfway diorama. Have the U-boat sorta diving and listed on an angle trying to avoid a few sea mines in front of it. If you could have the robotics team set up a audible Ping! and then an alarm, dive dive dive in german. That would be awesome To add to it I would set up a film of clear blue cellophane across the ceiling a few feet above the sub to simulate the ocean surface. Maybe crumple it for texture and with the skylight it would look awesome. I'd also "float" the mines from fishing wire in the path of the sub and have the chain bolting them to the sea floor end above the students heads so they don't constantly walk into it. I like this idea. And a big tag because i love these threads. |
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So, what ancillary items have been floated? Mines, depth charges, torpedoes? Maybe a diver untangling the screw from a mine cable?
Could any of that be donated complete? Say an ARFCOM Retro torpedo? |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
You've got me thinking about this, but I'll post a very poor drawing of what I've got in my head and see what you think. I'm going to build a box structure inside, surrounded by the 18 plywood rings. Then on the outside of the rings, I'm going to run 1x2s at the 2,4,8 and 10 oclock positions for support. I'm thinking it should be pretty solid, especially if the boat is divided into two parts, with two cables each to hang it. obviously not drawn to scale, or with any skill. Sorry, just something quick. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5619/20249944914_8f57bb9fd6_b.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/626/20249942454_acd8d27483_b.jpg More what I was thinking, flat top on the rings, not round. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/756/20252043283_2651f4bd3e_b.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
As far as your main inner structure, I wouldn't go with 2X4's. Over time a 2X4 can warp. With the inner structure warping, you can get exterior cracking. How about aluminum tubes? Or even a plywood backbone that won't warp? You've got me thinking about this, but I'll post a very poor drawing of what I've got in my head and see what you think. I'm going to build a box structure inside, surrounded by the 18 plywood rings. Then on the outside of the rings, I'm going to run 1x2s at the 2,4,8 and 10 oclock positions for support. I'm thinking it should be pretty solid, especially if the boat is divided into two parts, with two cables each to hang it. obviously not drawn to scale, or with any skill. Sorry, just something quick. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5619/20249944914_8f57bb9fd6_b.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/626/20249942454_acd8d27483_b.jpg More what I was thinking, flat top on the rings, not round. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/756/20252043283_2651f4bd3e_b.jpg Does your school have an industrial tech class? Students who could weld square tubing for ya? All good vessels need a strong keel. |
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Originally Posted By Hoppy:
Project vehicles are almost never a good financial decision. Love is like that. |
Looking forward to watching the progress! |
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Originally Posted By Sixtigers:
Does your school have an industrial tech class? Students who could weld square tubing for ya? http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j28/sixtigers/skeleton_zpsdm7mofpl.png All good vessels need a strong keel. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sixtigers:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
As far as your main inner structure, I wouldn't go with 2X4's. Over time a 2X4 can warp. With the inner structure warping, you can get exterior cracking. How about aluminum tubes? Or even a plywood backbone that won't warp? You've got me thinking about this, but I'll post a very poor drawing of what I've got in my head and see what you think. I'm going to build a box structure inside, surrounded by the 18 plywood rings. Then on the outside of the rings, I'm going to run 1x2s at the 2,4,8 and 10 oclock positions for support. I'm thinking it should be pretty solid, especially if the boat is divided into two parts, with two cables each to hang it. obviously not drawn to scale, or with any skill. Sorry, just something quick. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5619/20249944914_8f57bb9fd6_b.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/626/20249942454_acd8d27483_b.jpg More what I was thinking, flat top on the rings, not round. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/756/20252043283_2651f4bd3e_b.jpg Does your school have an industrial tech class? Students who could weld square tubing for ya? http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j28/sixtigers/skeleton_zpsdm7mofpl.png All good vessels need a strong keel. Yes, we have a good teacher too, but that would get way too heavy using steel. I might check and see about aluminum. Making your keel design out of wood would be easier, and much lighter. I think it would also be plenty strong, given four hanging points over the two sections. |
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
So, what ancillary items have been floated? Mines, depth charges, torpedoes? Maybe a diver untangling the screw from a mine cable? Could any of that be donated complete? Say an ARFCOM Retro torpedo? View Quote I'm going to see if we can make the mines with chains hanging down a few feet. We can use some fishing line to hang a few from the ceiling. |
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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Originally Posted By jestertoo:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By ODA_564:
Why a German submarine? Why not an American (USN) WWII submarine? Seriously. Addressed this earlier in the thread. Sorry. It's going to be German. U-505? Methinks U-505 is a Type IXC. Type VII are a lot smaller. |
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Wow. I hope your kids appreciate what a great teacher they have. [applause]
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"I yelled "HEY!! W.T.F!!!?? as I pointed my M-OU812 urban ass-salt axe handle menacingly at him, just daring him to come take my gummy bears!"
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"When you die, if you get a choice between going to Regular Heaven or Pie Heaven, choose Pie Heaven. It might be a trick, but if not…mmmmm, boy!" -Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts
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looking forward to watching this unfold
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I was bragging about your previous projects we need a full photo set of the past projects
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RIP Jeff Reed. Tennessee Squire , NRA Life member , Master Mason , Notary Public , Ga. carry member, Glock armorer.
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I was bragging about your previous projects we need a full photo set of the past projects
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RIP Jeff Reed. Tennessee Squire , NRA Life member , Master Mason , Notary Public , Ga. carry member, Glock armorer.
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I was bragging about your previous projects we need a full photo set of the past projects
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RIP Jeff Reed. Tennessee Squire , NRA Life member , Master Mason , Notary Public , Ga. carry member, Glock armorer.
Non-puking 72 ounce drinker twice. |
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When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
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this I am going to follow
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Looking for S.E. Dillos and also for Life Member Dillos
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Tag! Tag! Tag, Aoooooga! Aoooooga!
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Need to find some old German sailor that served on U-Boats to come to the dedication/unveiling. Put the World History teacher in charge of that. View Quote That may be very difficult. the 1,155 U-boats Germany sent into combat, 725 had been sunk in the longest battle of the war. Lasting nearly six years, over 35,000 German sailors had put to sea, with 28,744 never returning – a death rate of 82 percent, the highest casualty rate of any armed forces of any conflict in the history of modern war. Yet in this appalling casualty rate, there was never any shortage of men to enlist in the U-boat service, and until the very last day, the men of the U-boat service stood ready to put to sea at a moments notice. |
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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Man...I wish I had you as a teacher when I was in art class. The coolest thing I did was a poster board Imperial Walker stop motion project.
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
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Neat!
I just scored a 1/350 scale full resin kit of a Gato class sub. |
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Can't talk...gotta shoot.
C.E. "Bud" Anderson. There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, "All right, then, have it your way." |
up periscope!
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Another classic thread.
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Das Thread!
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