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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:46:51 PM EDT
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Dogs don't cry. Epiphora is a sign something is wrong, not emotional distress.
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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:47:44 PM EDT
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I can't watch this.. I just got a,rescue yorkie last Saturday. .. her history is just horrific. .. id love to find the fucks that had her and visit hell upon them...
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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:48:31 PM EDT
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:48:45 PM EDT
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Probably sprayed with mace to make a youtube hit video.
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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:50:51 PM EDT
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Dogs don't cry. Epiphora is a sign something is wrong, not emotional distress. I would agree with you if I hadn't seen it for myself before. I understand dogs essentially can't cry, but I'll be damned if our GSD didn't when we rescued her. Sometimes science doesn't explain everything. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:57:13 PM EDT
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Heck, I'd cry too with those sharp little teeth clamped on my nipples!
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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:58:49 PM EDT
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. Im glad to see that she was reunited with her pups, but crying? Um I dunno 
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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:59:02 PM EDT
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. You don't think animals feel fear, sadness, or happiness? |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:02:53 PM EDT
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You don't think animals feel fear, sadness, or happiness? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. You don't think animals feel fear, sadness, or happiness? OK human reactions to human emotions. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:07:15 PM EDT
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Heck, I'd cry too with those sharp little teeth clamped on my nipples! I usually have to pay extra for that! 
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:15:00 PM EDT
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OK human reactions to human emotions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. You don't think animals feel fear, sadness, or happiness? OK human reactions to human emotions. showing aggression/biting when protecting or in fear is a human reaction. Whimpering when scared is a human reaction... And I know we've all seen the over joyed dogs welcoming home veterans....also a human reaction. Yeah, I've been told "dogs don't cry tears". Never say never. As mentioned earlier, science doesn't explain everything. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:17:37 PM EDT
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showing aggression/biting when protecting or in fear is a human reaction. Whimpering when scared is a human reaction... And I know we've all seen the over joyed dogs welcoming home veterans....also a human reaction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. You don't think animals feel fear, sadness, or happiness? OK human reactions to human emotions. showing aggression/biting when protecting or in fear is a human reaction. Whimpering when scared is a human reaction... And I know we've all seen the over joyed dogs welcoming home veterans....also a human reaction. So in all those cases the dog watched a human reacting in a similar fashion and imprinted that behavior as an appropriate response to the situation? |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:21:45 PM EDT
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So in all those cases the dog watched a human reacting in a similar fashion and imprinted that behavior as an appropriate response to the situation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. You don't think animals feel fear, sadness, or happiness? OK human reactions to human emotions. showing aggression/biting when protecting or in fear is a human reaction. Whimpering when scared is a human reaction... And I know we've all seen the over joyed dogs welcoming home veterans....also a human reaction. So in all those cases the dog watched a human reacting in a similar fashion and imprinted that behavior as an appropriate response to the situation? We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:25:33 PM EDT
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We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover.
No. Just no. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:31:28 PM EDT
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Hachiko visited that train station everyday - at the same time - for ten years because he was just taking a walk.
Obviously, no emotion was involved. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:31:29 PM EDT
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I bet Cecil the lion cried.
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:31:49 PM EDT
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So in all those cases the dog watched a human reacting in a similar fashion and imprinted that behavior as an appropriate response to the situation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. You don't think animals feel fear, sadness, or happiness? OK human reactions to human emotions. showing aggression/biting when protecting or in fear is a human reaction. Whimpering when scared is a human reaction... And I know we've all seen the over joyed dogs welcoming home veterans....also a human reaction. So in all those cases the dog watched a human reacting in a similar fashion and imprinted that behavior as an appropriate response to the situation? What are you even talking about? You're saying that I'm implying dogs learned and are mimicking human emotion/reaction? I honestly don't follow. You know what? You win....you're right I'm wrong. I'm seriously not interested at all in trying to "win". |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:34:45 PM EDT
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What are you even talking about? You're saying that I'm implying dogs learned and are mimicking human emotion/reaction? I honestly don't follow. You know what? You win....you're right I'm wrong. I'm seriously not interested at all in trying to "win". Well I was implying that the reasons could possibly instincts, that we as human has assigned a human reaction to. I dont want to win either. This is ARF. No one here wins and arguement. 
I was just trying to have a conversation about something I know a little about. And something that interests me greatly. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:35:43 PM EDT
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Dags down south cry. Merrrr
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:35:55 PM EDT
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Dogs are social animals. They have survived because of it. They have been close to humans because of it. They fit into human civilization like no other animal, because of it.
But when it comes to being happy to see her offspring, that's the moment when a dog can't be social? Think about what it means to be a social being. You cannot do it if you are emotionless. Social groupings do not happen without having some sort of attachment, some sort of trust, some sort of being able to not kill, take, and generally screw over your comrades. Yet dogs, the most social of all the animal kingdom (besides humans)....cannot care about their offspring? I cry bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:43:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. yes dogs do show emotion |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:45:29 PM EDT
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We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover. You are so far from the truth. Sig knows way more about training and working with dogs than you could imagine. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:48:21 PM EDT
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We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover. 
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:49:12 PM EDT
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. Humans are animals too. Animals don't feel emotion? Watch the cows reaction when they see the grass, they've been in metal boxes their whole lives. http://youtu.be/kUZ1YLhIAg8 |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:51:43 PM EDT
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This will surly draw out the idiots....oh wait, it already has.
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:52:33 PM EDT
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No. Just no. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover.
No. Just no. It's in dogs DNA to make humans happy. In time, they can evolve right? Or do animals not evolve? When a species uses a gland/muscle/part of their body in time those glands/muscles/parts change. Can we start to see dogs act with humans after being domesticated for so long? Also, law of averages, one dog in tune with humans will show this unique ability when millions of other dogs cannot. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:52:35 PM EDT
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Humans are animals too. Animals don't feel emotion? Watch the cows reaction when they see the grass, they've been in metal boxes their whole lives. http://youtu.be/kUZ1YLhIAg8 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. Humans are animals too. Animals don't feel emotion? Watch the cows reaction when they see the grass, they've been in metal boxes their whole lives. http://youtu.be/kUZ1YLhIAg8 So over millions and millions of years (however old cows are Im no cow expert), grass wasn't embedded in them by instinct? |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:55:39 PM EDT
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It's in dogs DNA to make humans happy. In time, they can evolve right? Or do animals not evolve? When a species uses a gland/muscle/part of their body in time those glands/muscles/parts change. Can we start to see dogs act with humans after being domesticated for so long? Also, law of averages, one dog in tune with humans will show this unique ability when millions of other dogs cannot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover.
No. Just no. It's in dogs DNA to make humans happy. In time, they can evolve right? Or do animals not evolve? When a species uses a gland/muscle/part of their body in time those glands/muscles/parts change. Can we start to see dogs act with humans after being domesticated for so long? Also, law of averages, one dog in tune with humans will show this unique ability when millions of other dogs cannot. I would have to argue that. Then why do strays stay away from humans? Dog are pack animals. The live to make the alpha happy, and advance in the pack. If you the owner, human, is seen as the alpha, they want to make you happy. We cultivate these drives when training a dog. Its what makes them trainable. There are cases of dogs being alpha and "hard" to train sure. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 7:58:51 PM EDT
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Guys, Im not trying to argue.
Ive trained and worked dogs for years. And studied their behaviors. Im by no means an expert, and open to listen to other ideas. Without being adversarial of course. But I have to go eat dinner. Be back later. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:05:01 PM EDT
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We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So in all those cases the dog watched a human reacting in a similar fashion and imprinted that behavior as an appropriate response to the situation? We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover.
You don't realize what you said is like telling Stephen Hawking he doesn't really get science. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:05:04 PM EDT
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I would agree with you if I hadn't seen it for myself before. I understand dogs essentially can't cry, but I'll be damned if our GSD didn't when we rescued her. Sometimes science doesn't explain everything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dogs don't cry. Epiphora is a sign something is wrong, not emotional distress. I would agree with you if I hadn't seen it for myself before. I understand dogs essentially can't cry, but I'll be damned if our GSD didn't when we rescued her. Sometimes science doesn't explain everything. Well, I'd say that its more that scientists don't currently know how to properly design an experiment to test things like that, and are arrogant jackasses that cant admit their own limitations and failings. For instance, last I looked, cats "don't have the mental capacity" to carry out revenge or vengeful acts, but I know of two clear, unambiguous examples of that being wrong. At least unambiguous to any sane standard, I'm sure that somebody could find some absurd reasons that might cause doubt. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:13:57 PM EDT
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Guys, Im not trying to argue. Ive trained and worked dogs for years. And studied their behaviors. Im by no means an expert, and open to listen to other ideas. Without being adversarial of course. But I have to go eat dinner. Be back later. Dinner pic? 
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:38:07 PM EDT
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....oops
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:40:08 PM EDT
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Dogs don't cry. Epiphora is a sign something is wrong, not emotional distress. I saw it once as a kid. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:43:46 PM EDT
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We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover. No, he's just not assigning human motivation to canine behavior. It is possible to love animals without treating them like little furry people. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:43:49 PM EDT
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Humans are animals too. Animals don't feel emotion? Watch the cows reaction when they see the grass, they've been in metal boxes their whole lives. http://youtu.be/kUZ1YLhIAg8 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. Humans are animals too. Animals don't feel emotion? Watch the cows reaction when they see the grass, they've been in metal boxes their whole lives. http://youtu.be/kUZ1YLhIAg8 Cows are fucking dumb. We can take a load a cows in a trailer from one farm to the other and unload them. They jump and kick and act like they have never seen grass before. Then we load them up and bring them back to the pasture by the house and unload them. They jump and kick and act like they have never seen grass before.
Thats just how cows act. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:48:21 PM EDT
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showing aggression/biting when protecting or in fear is a human reaction. Whimpering when scared is a human reaction... And I know we've all seen the over joyed dogs welcoming home veterans....also a human reaction. Yeah, I've been told "dogs don't cry tears". Never say never. As mentioned earlier, science doesn't explain everything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. You don't think animals feel fear, sadness, or happiness? OK human reactions to human emotions. showing aggression/biting when protecting or in fear is a human reaction. Whimpering when scared is a human reaction... And I know we've all seen the over joyed dogs welcoming home veterans....also a human reaction. Yeah, I've been told "dogs don't cry tears". Never say never. As mentioned earlier, science doesn't explain everything. No, it actually does. We haven't figured out everything, but explaining the workings of existence is exactly what science is. And I'd say we've pretty much covered dog physiology. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:54:27 PM EDT
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I love my dog. My dog does have emotions.
But he isn't a human. His facial expressions and reactions to things do not mean for him what they would mean in a human. Because he isn't a human. He's a Dug. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:56:03 PM EDT
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Dogs are social animals. They have survived because of it. They have been close to humans because of it. They fit into human civilization like no other animal, because of it. But when it comes to being happy to see her offspring, that's the moment when a dog can't be social? Think about what it means to be a social being. You cannot do it if you are emotionless. Social groupings do not happen without having some sort of attachment, some sort of trust, some sort of being able to not kill, take, and generally screw over your comrades. Yet dogs, the most social of all the animal kingdom (besides humans)....cannot care about their offspring? I cry bullshit. Because dogs never eat their offspring? Oh wait...
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Posted: 8/4/2015 9:04:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2015 11:18:03 PM EDT
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I love my dog. My dog does have emotions. But he isn't a human. His facial expressions and reactions to things do not mean for him what they would mean in a human. Because he isn't a human. He's a Dug. First one to get it right. Not the spelling, but the statement. 
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Posted: 8/4/2015 11:31:13 PM EDT
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This is ARF. No one here wins and arguement.
...or spelling awards. Sorry, couldn't resist. 
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Posted: 8/4/2015 11:32:35 PM EDT
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Dogs don't cry. Epiphora is a sign something is wrong, not emotional distress. My dog cries every time I give him a bath. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 11:44:37 PM EDT
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No, he's just not assigning human motivation to canine behavior. It is possible to love animals without treating them like little furry people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We get it, dude. You're not an animal lover. No, he's just not assigning human motivation to canine behavior. It is possible to love animals without treating them like little furry people. Oh bullshit, my dogs are furry little people. At least they think they are. That's why Spanky moans and groans when the alarm goes off every morning.
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Posted: 8/4/2015 11:49:45 PM EDT
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My dog cries every time I give him a bath. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dogs don't cry. Epiphora is a sign something is wrong, not emotional distress. My dog cries every time I give him a bath. I cry every time I give my dog a bath |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 11:51:24 PM EDT
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our first golden sobbed uncontrollably when I scolded her for knocking over our daughter when playing catch, that was over 30 years ago and I can still hear her sobbing. thing was my MIL told me Sheba did it on purpose, I scolded her, she started sobbing, then my dad came in and said she was just having a good time playing fetch with our daughter and only knocked her over when our daughter accidentally threw it backwards over her head. yes dogs do show emotion Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assigning human emotions to an animals reaction. yes dogs do show emotion I agree they show emotion. There are times when I play with my dog. He is smiling from ear to ear. There are times when we stop. He becomes sullen. There are times my dog climbs on my shoulders and gives me a hug. |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 11:52:04 PM EDT
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what is all this "rescued" talk? Was the dog stuck down a well?
Or do you mean "adopted from the shelter"? |
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Posted: 8/4/2015 11:59:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cows are fucking dumb. We can take a load a cows in a trailer from one farm to the other and unload them. They jump and kick and act like they have never seen grass before. Then we load them up and bring them back to the pasture by the house and unload them. They jump and kick and act like they have never seen grass before. Thats just how cows act. Now I will say mothering instinct in cattle is damn strong thougj |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 12:10:19 AM EDT
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To the nice folks who insist animals have no emotion, perhaps you should watch ( and listen) to them rather than kill them...
Anyone who's had a dog and treated it correctly knows that dog loves you. And, I don't give a flying shit hard i get smoked or slammed. I just know more than you... We had two shepherds, male and female. The female got knocked up by our male and deliver only one pup. We decided to keep the pup. The pup and mother were inseparable, at 9 years the pup got cancer and after two surgeries and lots of money we had to put the pup down. The mother was beside herself, she went into the corner of the room and just stood there for over a day. We took her the vet, he did every test known to mankind and found nothing wrong with her. The next day she died. The vet said she died of a broken heart. I believe it. She howled and whelped (cried) the entire time. Na, bullshit to anyone who says dogs can't love or cry. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 12:13:08 AM EDT
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Dogs don't cry. Epiphora is a sign something is wrong, not emotional distress. My dog cries every time I give him a bath. I cry every time I give my dog a bath lol |
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