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Posted: 8/4/2015 8:02:18 AM EDT
Thoughts  on requiring  16-18 year Olds to work on public infrastructure  improvements?


I have never heard anyone talk about this sort of thing.


It would be like israel"s military service, bUT for public works.


myself, I am  not for this. I merely offer it for discussion.

Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:03:31 AM EDT
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Sounds like a way for those that are older than 16-18 to use youth to their advantage.


It's also antithetical to core US values IMHO.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:03:41 AM EDT
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So you want to bring back slavery? Bro, do you even freedom?
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Just for "teens"
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:05:36 AM EDT
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I'm not so sure I'd want a bunch of no skill, no experience 16-18 year old kids working on public infrastructure improvements... forced labor or not.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:06:16 AM EDT
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Just for "teens"
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Just for "teens"


and females? You try to get a 16 year old girl to pick up a shovel.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:07:11 AM EDT
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in this thread OP gargles dicks.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:07:17 AM EDT
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They'd  learn valuable skills. They wouldn't be engineering  these projects. .

They could  help erect statues of Maobama and such.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:07:34 AM EDT
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You want people to build highways that can't even put the correct three items in a bag?
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:07:48 AM EDT
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The Unions would never allow that.  Gotta pay a guy leaning on a shovel at least $18/hr.  If they actually use it the pay goes to $22/hr and if they use it properly they are a high skilled tradesman at $30/hr plus.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:08:07 AM EDT
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Or, people that are in favor of something like that could go volunteer their own time instead of forcing someone else to work for them.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:08:44 AM EDT
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People rise to expectations
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:09:22 AM EDT
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How about requiring this for welfare recipients?  Let the teens live and figure out life for themselves.......soon enough life will have more obligations and less choice.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:10:34 AM EDT
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Probably because involantary servitude violates the founding ideals and legal framework of the nation.

How about a program based on free will choice and just compensation?
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:10:56 AM EDT
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What would you do with the hundreds of thousands of payed workers that are displaced?
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:11:58 AM EDT
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We haven't fucked over the next generation enough? Now we need to force them to pave highways?
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:12:15 AM EDT
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The lefties around here have really been outing themselves lately.

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Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:12:31 AM EDT
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"I'm not for this, I'm just offering it for discussion - can jet fuel melt steel beams?"

Ok, OP.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:12:46 AM EDT
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If they would be improving infrastructure by cleaning it, I'm all for it.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:13:58 AM EDT
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Look up CCC
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:14:57 AM EDT
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The state is all.

All must serve the state.

For the good of the state.



Fuck that retarded, cock gargling bullshit.

This thread reeks with the stench of hippie oil.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:18:24 AM EDT
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The state is all.

All must serve the state.

For the good of the state.



Fuck that retarded, cock gargling bullshit.

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It reeks of Marx, Mao and Lenin.

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Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:20:58 AM EDT
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Civic duty. It is no longer an option. Hello communism.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:23:14 AM EDT
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In Progressive land.

In reality, they default to their level of training/ understanding.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:24:22 AM EDT
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Sounds like a great way to spend a nearly infinite amount of money to accomplish absolutely nothing.  I wonder where these infrastructure jobs are going to be located.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:24:51 AM EDT
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It will never happen simply because you would be taking jobs and kickbacks away from friends of political people.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:26:08 AM EDT
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I'd have no problem with young men learning to work in the out of doors on the model of the CCC camps. The National/State Parks could certainly use the help.

Sadly it would be a historic cluster-fuck what with OSHA, unions, advocates for women workers, and such.

Fuck the OP's slave labor idea. Voluntarily work for a wage reflecting your skills or GTFO.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:26:36 AM EDT
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Because Americorps works so well we need to expand it?
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:27:14 AM EDT
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In Progressive land.

In reality, they default to their level of training/ understanding. dummy down the expectations to their levels.
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In Progressive land.

In reality, they default to their level of training/ understanding. dummy down the expectations to their levels.



FIFY
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:28:24 AM EDT
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Thoughts  on requiring  16-18 year Olds to work on public infrastructure  improvements?


I have never heard anyone talk about this sort of thing.


It would be like israel"s military service, bUT for public works.


myself, I am  not for this. I merely offer it for discussion.

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And how are you going to "make" 16-18 yr old delinquents actually work at work....

It's a noble idea but easier to herd cats...imo
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:28:33 AM EDT
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That's because that level of Shitty idea is rare.

 
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:28:52 AM EDT
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I'd want my 16 year old learning to code and studying science, shadowing at the hospital, taking a night college class, working at starbucks, or being a door to door salesman... not a slave laborer.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:42:35 AM EDT
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Thoughts  on requiring  16-18 year Olds to work on public infrastructure  improvements?


I have never heard anyone talk about this sort of thing.


It would be like israel"s military service, bUT for public works.


myself, I am  not for this. I merely offer it for discussion.

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Will never happen for the same reason convicts aren't allowed to make things anymore.  Someone will $hit themselves and say they are taking away their job.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:46:10 AM EDT
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Truth





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How about requiring this for welfare recipients?  Let the teens live and figure out life for themselves.......soon enough life will have more obligations and less choice.



I subscribe to the job plan of welfare recipients working 8 hour days 5 days a week.  Show up and cut grass at public properties and road sides. With a non powered mower.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:46:57 AM EDT
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Actually make me laugh out loud, hard to do.......thank you!
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:48:13 AM EDT
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No. I like freedom, thank you very much. If I want my kids to do work at that age I'll lend them to the nearest farm.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:49:52 AM EDT
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How old are you OP?
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:52:31 AM EDT
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Would you be fine with an amendment for all over 18 to do the 2 years as well on their off time from work?





It's always great when you put new rules on younger people, until you are included in those rules.


 



People shouldn't be exempt just because they are above the age when a new rule is put in place.




I'm sure if you did it this way, it would be struck down easily, but if you just targeted it towards the young people, it would pass.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 8:58:04 AM EDT
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That's real retarded.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:01:23 AM EDT
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Came here to post this....although, I barely trust you hem to be able to pick up trash...which is still better than them sitting at home collecting a check.
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I'll bet he's over 18.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:08:14 AM EDT
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Fuck that.
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I'll bet he's over 18.
Rules for thee but not for me.

 
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:08:58 AM EDT
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Happened before sort of.  They were called CCC camps.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:11:41 AM EDT
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Only took 6 posts...
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:12:01 AM EDT
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As a father of a handful of teens who could use a good kick in the butt some times...


HELL NO!!!


We don't do this sort of thing in America, especially not with MINOR CHILDREN.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:12:15 AM EDT
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Yay.  

More experience and examples of how to leech off the government dole is exactly what we need.

Customary inefficiency, inability to effectively plan plus institutions with a regular employee pool where 87 percent have perfected the art of loafing/workplace grievances/workplace compensable "injuries"; what could possibly go wrong?

We could even start a new civilian VA for these veterans of public service.  It's the least we can do for their sacrifice.

Be sure to thank them for their service when you see them wearing t shirts identifying themselves as having picked up cigarette butts at Yellowstone.

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Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:19:41 AM EDT
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The part of The Constitution that empowers the federal government to require that the people provide their children for forced labor on behalf of The State......................



It isn't there.
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:22:17 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:23:52 AM EDT
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patchouli
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Thoughts on requiring 16-18 year Olds to work on public infrastructure improvements?


I have never heard anyone talk about this sort of thing.


It would be like israel"s military service, bUT for public works.


myself, I am not for this. I merely offer it for discussion.



Reduce Spending, Limit Government, Increase Personal Freedom


Nice sigline OP
Link Posted: 8/4/2015 9:24:50 AM EDT
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"Let's discuss" after OP and any proponets are slaved out for two years hard labor.
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