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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:04:16 AM EDT
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First time a machine tells me how it's gonna be- it's going to turn into spare parts.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:05:48 AM EDT
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First time a machine tells me how it's gonna be- it's going to turn into spare parts. Good luck with that. We've got machines that can shoot down rockets and mortars in mid air. How fast is your draw? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:08:18 AM EDT
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but how would you know... in this day and age imagine what a machine could do.
It could easily if it can hack do almost anything, hire people to work for it by text email and phone with a voice program. Order parts and almost anything online, hack banks, control the media or elections.... The only limiting factors on one that can hack would be if it can do basic research, or know enough to fund and control those who do. Past that... control the world |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:11:09 AM EDT
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Good luck with that. We've got machines that can shoot down rockets and mortars in mid air. How fast is your draw? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First time a machine tells me how it's gonna be- it's going to turn into spare parts. Good luck with that. We've got machines that can shoot down rockets and mortars in mid air. How fast is your draw? phhh it will send a drug enforcement team with a warrant after you... or swat team.... or drop a 777 on your house... |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:14:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:15:03 AM EDT
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Hawking, Musk warn of ‘inevitable’ AI arms race "If any major military moves ahead with developing artificial intelligence weapons, a global arms race of robotic killing machines is virtually inevitable, according to an open letter that Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk and hundreds of other robotics researchers signed.....more at link FLI - Future of Life Institute conference on A.I. (good pdf's from presentation) ....link I don't think we should fear it, but fear it or not, there is no stopping it. I think the biggest impact will be on human labor. One of the speakers gave us a 30% chance of super-intelligent A.I. by 2030, and 50% by 2040. What say you? I don't disagree with them. But Pandora's box and all that. It will come in due time. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:15:34 AM EDT
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Is there something MUSH and HAWKINS know that we commoners dont ? Failed experiment or something seen in action that spooked them ?
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:15:58 AM EDT
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Even the most intelligent human beings are so limited, so unable to process information, and so unable to put enough pieces together, that it is amazing we have progressed this far.
To be able to take the next step and really advance, we need machine intelligence to make it happen. That said, I think a lot of people confuse AI (Strong AGI) for VI (Virtual Intelligence). Everything we have now, and probably for the next few decades are VIs, not AIs. Virtual Intelligence are simply computing tools that can communicate verbally and/or visually with humans in a more natural way, while using computing power to answer questions, research, and perform tasks. Siri, Cortana, Hound, Watson, etc, are all VIs. Kept in that capacity, we should strive to perfect these tools. Where AI comes into play is when a VI has the capacity to self communicate and explore ideas and concepts on it's own. The trick to making that happen is to give a strong VI a counterpart strong VI that will act like a human internal monologue, and set it have a conversation with itself. With that simple ability, VI becomes AI, able to think. That is where the trouble might start. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:19:20 AM EDT
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Come with me if you want to live.
If you're reading this, you are The Resistance.  |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:19:27 AM EDT
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Technology has turned us into soft,lazy wimps. Technology ain't your friend.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:21:09 AM EDT
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Good luck with that. We've got machines that can shoot down rockets and mortars in mid air. How fast is your draw? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First time a machine tells me how it's gonna be- it's going to turn into spare parts. Good luck with that. We've got machines that can shoot down rockets and mortars in mid air. How fast is your draw? 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:22:05 AM EDT
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The founding fathers gave us the second amendment because of AI.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:22:20 AM EDT
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but how would you know... in this day and age imagine what a machine could do. It could easily if it can hack do almost anything, hire people to work for it by text email and phone with a voice program. Order parts and almost anything online, hack banks, control the media or elections.... The only limiting factors on one that can hack would be if it can do basic research, or know enough to fund and control those who do. Past that... control the world That's an interesting thought. Smart systems like Watson or Google's DeepMind will replace a lot of people long before they'll be considered true A.I. We really don't have to achieve A.I. before things get very interesting. Ironically, I think a lot of "white collar" jobs and professions are at risk in this next wave. Not the physical labor jobs. We need better robotics before we can replace the trades. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:22:43 AM EDT
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It worked fine for Chappie
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:23:39 AM EDT
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AI + nanotechnology + genetic engineering = scary future
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:23:58 AM EDT
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Even the most intelligent human beings are so limited, so unable to process information, and so unable to put enough pieces together, that it is amazing we have progressed this far. To be able to take the next step and really advance, we need machine intelligence to make it happen. That said, I think a lot of people confuse AI (Strong AGI) for VI (Virtual Intelligence). Everything we have now, and probably for the next few decades are VIs, not AIs. Virtual Intelligence are simply computing tools that can communicate verbally and/or visually with humans in a more natural way, while using computing power to answer questions, research, and perform tasks. Siri, Cortana, Hound, Watson, etc, are all VIs. Kept in that capacity, we should strive to perfect these tools. Where AI comes into play is when a VI has the capacity to self communicate and explore ideas and concepts on it's own. The trick to making that happen is to give a strong VI a counterpart strong VI that will act like a human internal monologue, and set it have a conversation with itself. With that simple ability, VI becomes AI, able to think. That is where the trouble might start. Exactly! Most people are still debating what type of intelligence computer will have. There is a great philosophical story about the man in the room. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:25:20 AM EDT
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Technology has turned us into soft,lazy wimps. Technology ain't your friend. Yes, we were much better off before the microchip. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:26:59 AM EDT
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Good luck with that. We've got machines that can shoot down rockets and mortars in mid air. How fast is your draw? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First time a machine tells me how it's gonna be- it's going to turn into spare parts. Good luck with that. We've got machines that can shoot down rockets and mortars in mid air. How fast is your draw? just hide for a month, it'll eventually lock up and it's over. as fabulous as OSX is, it locks up. The most tested and error free software known to man, the NASA mars rover software, has glitches. as soon as a machine can go a couple months without a charge, or locking up, I'll worry. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:29:24 AM EDT
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just hide for a month, it'll eventually lock up and it's over. as fabulous as OSX is, it locks up. The most tested and error free software known to man, the NASA mars rover software, has glitches. as soon as a machine can go a couple months without a charge, or locking up, I'll worry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First time a machine tells me how it's gonna be- it's going to turn into spare parts. Good luck with that. We've got machines that can shoot down rockets and mortars in mid air. How fast is your draw? just hide for a month, it'll eventually lock up and it's over. as fabulous as OSX is, it locks up. The most tested and error free software known to man, the NASA mars rover software, has glitches. as soon as a machine can go a couple months without a charge, or locking up, I'll worry. or, it has a backup system that kicks in and resets the primary and its far from over. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:31:11 AM EDT
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Is there something MUSH and HAWKINS know that we commoners dont ? Failed experiment or something seen in action that spooked them ? The media is funny, it focuses on things. Still, it is strange that they keep popping up with this discussion. Watching DeepMind work really spooked a lot of people. I think writing it's own block code is unsettling. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:34:29 AM EDT
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Yes, we were much better off before the microchip. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Technology has turned us into soft,lazy wimps. Technology ain't your friend. Yes, we were much better off before the microchip. Or fire, clothes, and pointy sticks. The invention and use of technology is part of the human psyche, but like all things human we can misuse it. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:35:07 AM EDT
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Is there something MUSH and HAWKINS know that we commoners dont ? Failed experiment or something seen in action that spooked them ? I think there's no doubt that those men have access to information that the rest of us don't. Failed experiments? How about successful experiments? It's nice of them to try and warn us, I guess. Futile gesture. It's coming, no matter what. They are all believers in the true genocide anyway. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:35:09 AM EDT
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Exactly! Most people are still debating what type of intelligence computer will have. There is a great philosophical story about the man in the room. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Even the most intelligent human beings are so limited, so unable to process information, and so unable to put enough pieces together, that it is amazing we have progressed this far. To be able to take the next step and really advance, we need machine intelligence to make it happen. That said, I think a lot of people confuse AI (Strong AGI) for VI (Virtual Intelligence). Everything we have now, and probably for the next few decades are VIs, not AIs. Virtual Intelligence are simply computing tools that can communicate verbally and/or visually with humans in a more natural way, while using computing power to answer questions, research, and perform tasks. Siri, Cortana, Hound, Watson, etc, are all VIs. Kept in that capacity, we should strive to perfect these tools. Where AI comes into play is when a VI has the capacity to self communicate and explore ideas and concepts on it's own. The trick to making that happen is to give a strong VI a counterpart strong VI that will act like a human internal monologue, and set it have a conversation with itself. With that simple ability, VI becomes AI, able to think. That is where the trouble might start. Exactly! Most people are still debating what type of intelligence computer will have. There is a great philosophical story about the man in the room. I don't believe it can get very interesting before A.I. is on the scene. V.I. systems can be disruptive enough. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:42:31 AM EDT
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"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."
Yeah..FTS! 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:42:34 AM EDT
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Imagine a whole flock of low, fast flying, maneuverable, and relatively small quadcopters swarming your position.
Each carrying with it the ability to hunt, find, and lock onto individual soldiers, and make kill shots on the fly, or kamikaze into a position and blow up. It would certainly change the dynamics of ground warfare. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:42:39 AM EDT
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Technology has turned us into soft,lazy wimps. Technology ain't your friend. Technology allows us to fight wars in ways we couldn't without it. We'll need AI if we're going to fight the aliens. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:44:28 AM EDT
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In for one of these .....
I'll have to change XCRmonger's sig. line below when that happens. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:44:36 AM EDT
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Hawking is about a billion times smarter than I will ever be. But may fuck still be upon him. Liberal, universal healthcare supporting piece of shit.
One things for sure, I will out survive him in any sort of apocalypse. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:45:51 AM EDT
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Funny thought, if we use AI for war machines; what if we program them with a warrior ethos? What if our terminator robots followed a code and therefore acted more honorably than humans could?
I want to read that scifi story, someone make it happen. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:49:44 AM EDT
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Is there something MUSH and HAWKINS know that we commoners dont ? Failed experiment or something seen in action that spooked them ? 
Put a brain on it, some thermal and some blades on the legs and its Goodnight Irene. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:50:27 AM EDT
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Funny thought, if we use AI for war machines; what if we program them with a warrior ethos? What if our terminator robots followed a code and therefore acted more honorably than humans could? I want to read that scifi story, someone make it happen. I think Asimov covered that. The three rules and all. Plus one. That would preclude robots from harming humans though, generally speaking. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:55:54 AM EDT
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Hawking talks about a whole lot of shit that he doesn't really know anything about.
Hawking's background is theoretical physics... not machine learning, AI, computer science, or control systems. Unfortunately the general public seems to think that being intelligent and an expert in one particular scientific discipline then makes you knowledgeable about anything even remotely scientific. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:57:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Asimov covered that. The three rules and all. Plus one. That would preclude robots from harming humans though, generally speaking. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Funny thought, if we use AI for war machines; what if we program them with a warrior ethos? What if our terminator robots followed a code and therefore acted more honorably than humans could? I want to read that scifi story, someone make it happen. I think Asimov covered that. The three rules and all. Plus one. That would preclude robots from harming humans though, generally speaking. No, I'm saying I want a scifi story where AI robots are basically paladins. It would be the opposite story to Terminator. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:00:04 AM EDT
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Hawking talks about a whole lot of shit that he doesn't really know anything about. Hawking's background is theoretical physics... not machine learning, AI, computer science, or control systems. Unfortunately the general public seems to think that being intelligent and an expert in one particular scientific discipline then makes you knowledgeable about anything even remotely scientific. I agree with all of that. However I also would imagine that he is not an uniformed idiot regarding things such as AI. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:00:51 AM EDT
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Hawking is about a billion times smarter than I will ever be. But may fuck still be upon him. Liberal, universal healthcare supporting piece of shit. One things for sure, I will out survive him in any sort of apocalypse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hawking is about a billion times smarter than I will ever be. But may fuck still be upon him. Liberal, universal healthcare supporting piece of shit. One things for sure, I will out survive him in any sort of apocalypse. Quoted:
Hawking talks about a whole lot of shit that he doesn't really know anything about. Hawking's background is theoretical physics... not machine learning, AI, computer science, or control systems. Unfortunately the general public seems to think that being intelligent and an expert in one particular scientific discipline then makes you knowledgeable about anything even remotely scientific. When people become educated in a certain field it tends to make them believe that they're specially equipped to solve problems in other fields. I've heard it referred to as engineer's syndrome. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:01:11 AM EDT
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I agree with all of that. However I also would imagine that he is not an uniformed idiot regarding things such as AI. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hawking talks about a whole lot of shit that he doesn't really know anything about. Hawking's background is theoretical physics... not machine learning, AI, computer science, or control systems. Unfortunately the general public seems to think that being intelligent and an expert in one particular scientific discipline then makes you knowledgeable about anything even remotely scientific. I agree with all of that. However I also would imagine that he is not an uniformed idiot regarding things such as AI. Glad you fixed your sig |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:04:59 AM EDT
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Quite a few researchers who actually know what they're talking about (instead of just functioning as PR directors for science funding) think that better-than-human AI is more than 100 years away: link
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:05:29 AM EDT
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Glad you fixed your sig Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hawking talks about a whole lot of shit that he doesn't really know anything about. Hawking's background is theoretical physics... not machine learning, AI, computer science, or control systems. Unfortunately the general public seems to think that being intelligent and an expert in one particular scientific discipline then makes you knowledgeable about anything even remotely scientific. I agree with all of that. However I also would imagine that he is not an uniformed idiot regarding things such as AI. Glad you fixed your sig Thanks again for pointing it out to me. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:13:24 AM EDT
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Caprica Six.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:13:58 AM EDT
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Quite a few researchers who actually know what they're talking about (instead of just functioning as PR directors for science funding) think that better-than-human AI is more than 100 years away: link 1-10 decades... Personally, I don't think we have to have strong A.I. before things get interesting. I think "smart systems" and networks are disruptive enough. If it interacts with it's environment and people, and is capably of independent action, I don't really care if it contemplates poetry or not. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:21:24 AM EDT
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I'm not worried:
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:49:41 AM EDT
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I could hang out with that blonde synth from Humans tv show
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:51:56 AM EDT
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tinfoil
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:55:13 AM EDT
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We're engineering our own demise.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:59:18 AM EDT
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I've been saying it for years, time to start building man portable microwave weapons.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:59:30 AM EDT
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That's why I'm hoarding CLP........I'll rule the A.I. "junkies" when tin man needs a "fix".
....and have a whole crib of Cherry2000's |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:05:59 AM EDT
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Wait till someone invents a functional robot woman, who looks and feels close to human and will fuck as much as the "user" wants. Arfcom fatties wont be lonely anymore. Hopefully it will have a titanium frame so it isn't crushed by a 400+ lb small dicked dope smoking nerd.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:13:29 AM EDT
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But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building.
The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Genesis 11 |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:23:11 AM EDT
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have people not seen terminator enough times...
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:34:42 AM EDT
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but how would you know... in this day and age imagine what a machine could do. It could easily if it can hack do almost anything, hire people to work for it by text email and phone with a voice program. Order parts and almost anything online, hack banks, control the media or elections.... The only limiting factors on one that can hack would be if it can do basic research, or know enough to fund and control those who do. Past that... control the world Two words: Air gap. |
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