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Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:08:58 AM EDT
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geez... glad he's ok... multiplefractures is rather harsh but your nephew never should've put down the gun... hope they catch the crazy fucker
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:10:41 AM EDT
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Damn, glad your nephew is ok.  I'd say this story is the epitome of learning lessons the hard way.

What you just told us OP is the modern day "Red Badge of Courage."
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:10:50 AM EDT
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What a dumbass!

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I sure this has been addressed already, but what the fuck is wrong with you
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:11:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:14:17 AM EDT
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I sure this has been addressed already, but what the fuck is wrong with you


You got a soft spot for idiots?  What is the lesson to be learned from OP's story?  Why is he telling it in GD?  Is there a moral side to it that I am missing?

Guess what?  Nope.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:14:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:14:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:15:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:15:33 AM EDT
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Lulz... that hive mind yo!
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:16:04 AM EDT
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That is all you have?  Weak.  Please entertain me with something profound.  Are you a third grader?
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Classy. It's so easy to armchair quarterback something that happened to someone else. Were mistakes made? Yes. But the child and mother are alive and well because the OP's nephew took a stand for them, so good for him.


So you have no argument, just emotions? lol

That kid would be better off without the biological mother and the father.

Dude thought he was a badass and almost got killed for it.  The rest is rationalizations.

Does one need to practice daily to achieve such epic levels of douchebaggery... Or is it natural talent?


That is all you have?  Weak.  Please entertain me with something profound.  Are you a third grader?

No but I'm guessing you were beat up a lot as one and are now compensating.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:16:41 AM EDT
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Great post.  Freaking greatness.  High probability of truth it seems.

 
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:16:55 AM EDT
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lol, someone with a sense of humor.  

At least you tried


Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:17:42 AM EDT
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That explains it.

I actually agree with MF's first post. He's making a really strange stand in this thread over seemingly nothing though.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:18:41 AM EDT
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Dumb, but I holstered my gun once to fight someone.  Fortunately for me he didn't have a gun and if he had a knife he didn't pull it.  



Still, it's a "young, dumb and full of cum" type of mistake that I'd never, ever make again.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:19:34 AM EDT
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lol, someone with a sense of humor.  

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lol, someone with a sense of humor.  

At least you tried



So you're just gonna steal my thunder......

At least give me credit for posting it first.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:21:58 AM EDT
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I'm glad your nephew is alive and mending.  



I'm sure he's already learned from the experience, so I'll leave it at that.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:25:47 AM EDT
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So you have no argument, just emotions? lol

That kid would be better off without the biological mother and the father.

Dude thought he was a badass and almost got killed for it.  The rest is rationalizations.

Does one need to practice daily to achieve such epic levels of douchebaggery... Or is it natural talent?


That is all you have?  Weak.  Please entertain me with something profound.  Are you a third grader?

No but I'm guessing you were beat up a lot as one and are now compensating.


That would be the simple answer, but wrong.  I did grow up seeing more than my share of idiots just like the OP's nephew, though.  I was pointless, preventable and just plain dumb.

So many idiots just like the mama, papa and nephew that could never figure out how to make a better life.  This is me being sympathetic to born losers.  

See, compassion.  
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:26:28 AM EDT
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lol, someone with a sense of humor.  

At least you tried



So you're just gonna steal my thunder......

At least give me credit for posting it first.


Credit given, sir.  My bad.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:27:53 AM EDT
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Holy fuck,  it's actually starting to make sense now.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:29:13 AM EDT
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Damn man. Sorry for your family. Definitely a good lesson to learn but wow that's messed up.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:29:33 AM EDT
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Your nephew didn't/doesn't have the mindset to kill in self-defense. His indecision almost got him, his girlfriend and her child murdered.





When it comes to that point..a lot of people can't pull the trigger. They do exactly what he did and start a moralistic wrestling match about taking a human life. They haven't made the decision that a deadly threat needs to be stopped ASAP nor arrived at the will to carry it through.





A person has to decide what his priorities are - and adjust his mindset to use deadly force to defend himself and his family - before that situation presents itself.





Indecision 'in the moment' will get you killed.





Glad he lived through it.





 
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:41:38 AM EDT
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Did they find any indication he got any hits on the piece of shit.

Out of curiosity what kind of weapon was your nephew using.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:47:15 AM EDT
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You got a soft spot for idiots?  What is the lesson to be learned from OP's story?  Why is he telling it in GD?  Is there a moral side to it that I am missing?

Guess what?  Nope.
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I sure this has been addressed already, but what the fuck is wrong with you


You got a soft spot for idiots?  What is the lesson to be learned from OP's story?  Why is he telling it in GD?  Is there a moral side to it that I am missing?

Guess what?  Nope.


By three pages you didn't need to respond to, I already figured out what the fuck is wrong with you, fucking keyboard commandos
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:48:43 AM EDT
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Not sure if it's been covered, but I hope that whoever is with him right now is armed. Not unusual for perps who failed the first time to finish the job at the hospital.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:49:11 AM EDT
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Dumb, but I holstered my gun once to fight someone.  Fortunately for me he didn't have a gun and if he had a knife he didn't pull it.  



Still, it's a "young, dumb and full of cum" type of mistake that I'd never, ever make again.

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IIRC Bill Jordan told a tale of doing it in one of his books



Fell for the whole If you didn't have a gun and badge I could kick your ass speil

as soon as Jordan laid his gun belt down and the 2 squared up guy dived for it , luckily Jordan was faster



 
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:52:30 AM EDT
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That's why you never put down your weapon in a home invasion, I don't care if it's a family member, if you kicked in my door, you're not here to say hello. I hate that him having shown mercy to the ass hole, caused him to get shot. But his guy sounds like a complete idiot. I mean come on your so upset that your ex found someone else, kick in a door to his house and end up shooting him 3 times after he showed you mercy, and then shoot at the ex who you must have been jealous of, and loved so much, while she's holding (assuming) his baby!? WTF is wrong with that guy. I hope they throw the book at the ass clown and he does the next 60 years in jail. (which would likely mean he will die there).
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:54:27 AM EDT
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QFT

Glad your nephew is still with us, OP.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 12:57:01 AM EDT
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Wow. I'm glad everyone survived.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 1:06:00 AM EDT
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If he has no kids of his own, and he's shacking up with some broad with youngins, then your nephew has worse problems than just getting shot.
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Truth.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 1:11:00 AM EDT
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I don't really have anything constructive to add to this so I'll just repeat what everyone else has already said and also add some ridiculous nonsense.  

Actually fuck it.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 1:43:26 AM EDT
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He should change his name to MultipleinFractions






Link Posted: 8/3/2015 1:55:31 AM EDT
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A hard lesson to learn but it was learned. I hope he recovers OP.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 1:57:10 AM EDT
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Another lesson is don't date women who are recently divorced.  Give them a year to work out issues.





Repeated the best advice in the thread again for any young guys chasing tail out there.






Glad to hear that the guy is still alive, but these folks aren't kidding. There are too many hot chicks out there who are 100% free of children, diseases, and drama to mess with the ones who aren't.


 



ETA: Nephew learned a lesson 'bout messin' with the wife of a jealous man.






Link Posted: 8/3/2015 2:05:06 AM EDT
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That would be the simple answer, but wrong.  I did grow up seeing more than my share of idiots just like the OP's nephew, though. I was pointless, preventable and just plain dumb.

So many idiots just like the mama, papa and nephew that could never figure out how to make a better life.  This is me being sympathetic to born losers.  

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So you have no argument, just emotions? lol

That kid would be better off without the biological mother and the father.

Dude thought he was a badass and almost got killed for it.  The rest is rationalizations.

Does one need to practice daily to achieve such epic levels of douchebaggery... Or is it natural talent?


That is all you have?  Weak.  Please entertain me with something profound.  Are you a third grader?

No but I'm guessing you were beat up a lot as one and are now compensating.


That would be the simple answer, but wrong.  I did grow up seeing more than my share of idiots just like the OP's nephew, though. I was pointless, preventable and just plain dumb.

So many idiots just like the mama, papa and nephew that could never figure out how to make a better life.  This is me being sympathetic to born losers.  

See, compassion.  


I believe we all agree with that.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 2:07:06 AM EDT
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I don't want to dog pile on the OP's nephew here. I genuinely hope he recovers fully and quickly.

But, how recently divorced are they that she has already moved in with your nephew? Were they divorced before nephew/woman began dating? living together? Nothing really justifies trying to kill 3 people, but questionable decisions usually produce questionable results.

 
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Another lesson is don't date women who are recently divorced.  Give them a year to work out issues.

I don't want to dog pile on the OP's nephew here. I genuinely hope he recovers fully and quickly.

But, how recently divorced are they that she has already moved in with your nephew? Were they divorced before nephew/woman began dating? living together? Nothing really justifies trying to kill 3 people, but questionable decisions usually produce questionable results.

 


it happens every day. for no reason at all. Look to most D run urban areas. The current winner is Bmo MD.

Link Posted: 8/3/2015 2:07:51 AM EDT
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glad he survived OP, hope he recovers quickly

but at the same time, as someone else said, play stupid games, get stupid results.

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Glad he's going to be ok.

Have a talk with him about putting guns down when they should be leveled and readied for use.

Also teach him the laws in your area and how to know if he's legal to fire or not.  Then get him to decide his lines (decision points) of when to fire before he's in a bad spot.

I'm wiling to bet hes willing to listen.

He also needs to ditch the divorcee.
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Mississippi had castle doctrine via judicial rulings long before it was formally codified in legislation, and probably has about the most far reaching and extensive civil and criminal protection you're going to find any where.

In short, the second the door was kicked open and dirtbag entered, the nephew was 100% in the clear to go hot.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 2:56:30 AM EDT
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Ask him if it was worth it. No matter what the answer stick your thumb in a bullet hole and in a loud, clear voice tell him.....


"Stupidity should be painful"

Glad he is recuping and not cooling off.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 3:09:16 AM EDT
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Glad to hear your nephew is still here. We all make mistakes under stress and your nephew got super lucky.





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TOWN OF CASTLE ROCK, COLORADO v. GONZALES, individually and a next best friend of her deceased minor children, GONZALES et al.

CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE TENTH CIRCUIT

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Respondent filed this suit under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 alleging that petitioner violated the Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause when its police officers, acting pursuant to official policy or custom, failed to respond to her repeated reports over several hours that her estranged husband had taken their three children in violation of her restraining order against him. Ultimately, the husband murdered the children. The District Court granted the town’s motion to dismiss, but an en banc majority of the Tenth Circuit reversed, finding that respondent had alleged a cognizable procedural due process claim because a Colorado statute established the state legislature’s clear intent to require police to enforce retraining orders, and thus its intent that the order’s recipient have an entitlement to its enforcement. The court therefore ruled, among other things, that respondent had a protected property interest in the enforcement of her restraining order.



Held: Respondent did not, for Due Process Clause purposes, have a property interest in police enforcement of the restraining order against her husband. Pp. 6—19.










 
When someone mentions a restraining order have them hold it in front of their face. Then ask if they think




it will stop a fist or bullet.  Also don't bring hands to a gun fight.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 3:10:24 AM EDT
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Have a talk with him about putting guns down when they should be leveled and readied for use.

Also teach him the laws in your area and how to know if he's legal to fire or not.  Then get him to decide his lines (decision points) of when to fire before he's in a bad spot.

I'm wiling to bet hes willing to listen.

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Link Posted: 8/3/2015 3:22:32 AM EDT
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Glad he's okay. Poor decisions like this are good for people to know about so they do not make the same mistake and have a worse outcome.
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Police with a warrant?

Firemen responding to an attic fire?
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SANTA CLAUS? BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG

The pope? BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG

Jesus Christ? Yup. BANG, BANG, BANG

Easter bunny, sweet old lady from across the street, drunk hottie college co-ed?

Unless I invited you in, ANYONE in my dwelling without my permission will have a fuck-ton in common with swiss cheese.



Police with a warrant?

Firemen responding to an attic fire?


That is what I thought as well.

Also, what if it is parents, spouse or childen coming in?   Been more than on occasion where fathers have shot their kids coming in late at night because they thought it was an intruder.
Link Posted: 8/3/2015 3:40:15 AM EDT
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Pullin for you're nephew OP
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Meh
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I told him to go buy some lottery tickets, as he just hit the life lotto...

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When he gets better, slap him up side his damn fool head. His sentimentality damn near got him, his gf, and her kid killed. Glad he's ok, but fuck.


Also, get him some defensive pistol training. Sounds like he could use it.

Edit: I see this has been beat like a horse....
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That pussy is a hell of a drug. Dont think its going to end well, and not just because of the ex.
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