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Take your bleeding heart for illegal aliens and shove it, very few here give a damn about them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Several days ago, the LA Times had a big sob story about how bad conditions are in the detention centers. Today, they have this sob story about how bad ankle bracelets are. The liberals are clearly making a big push to eliminate all detention and tracking of illegals. They want illegals to be able to enter this country at will with no delays or inconveniences at the border. The wood chipper is extreme, but no more extreme than the idea of getting rid of our borders and letting illegals cross at will. Perhaps we should consider electronic monitoring as a condition of private military grade weapons ownership? Then we can take it a little further and debate whether anyone who might want to privately own such a weapon should ultimately be considered Human... Take your bleeding heart for illegal aliens and shove it, very few here give a damn about them. Summed it up nicely for me. |
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I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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don't like it? leave I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. Do you think its fair that a woman was murdered by an illegal in San Fransisco? Or how about the family in Montana? How about Brian Terry? Here read this and tell me how its fair for US AMERICANS. http://www.constitutionparty.com/illegal-alien-crime-and-violence-by-the-numbers-were-all-victims/ |
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don't like it? leave I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. Two words: Juan Razo. I'm not going to post a list of murderous US citizens that used military grade weapons. |
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I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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don't like it? leave I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. Is "murderous extremism" the new Buzzword Bingo for leftist trolls? Funny, it lines up perfectly with the new CVE Department being pushed through Congress... If I didn't know better, I would think there's some kind of agenda... |
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don't like it? leave I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. Two words: Juan Razo. I'm not going to post a list of murderous US citizens that used military grade weapons. Give me a few instinces? |
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Is "murderous extremism" the new Buzzword Bingo for leftist trolls? Funny, it lines up perfectly with the new CVE Department being pushed through Congress... If I didn't know better, I would think there's some kind of agenda... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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don't like it? leave I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. Is "murderous extremism" the new Buzzword Bingo for leftist trolls? Funny, it lines up perfectly with the new CVE Department being pushed through Congress... If I didn't know better, I would think there's some kind of agenda... I dunno what CVE is, but I definitely do have an agenda, and part of it is to overcome murderous extremism. |
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Several days ago, the LA Times had a big sob story about how bad conditions are in the detention centers. Today, they have this sob story about how bad ankle bracelets are. The liberals are clearly making a big push to eliminate all detention and tracking of illegals. They want illegals to be able to enter this country at will with no delays or inconveniences at the border. The wood chipper is extreme, but no more extreme than the idea of getting rid of our borders and letting illegals cross at will. Perhaps we should consider electronic monitoring as a condition of private military grade weapons ownership? Then we can take it a little further and debate whether anyone who might want to privately own such a weapon should ultimately be considered Human... You are equating gun ownership with illegal immigration? Seems pretty clear that I did, Humans being Humans and all. Being human does not free someone from the consequences of breaking a nations very reasonable laws and violating its sacred sovereignty. |
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don't like it? leave I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. Is "murderous extremism" the new Buzzword Bingo for leftist trolls? Funny, it lines up perfectly with the new CVE Department being pushed through Congress... If I didn't know better, I would think there's some kind of agenda... I dunno what CVE is, but I definitely do have an agenda, and part of it is to overcome murderous extremism. Maybe you should start your crusade in Mexico? Or does a massive civil war with chainsaw beheadings and live-skinning not qualify as "murderous extremism"? |
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I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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don't like it? leave I don't like it at all. I think what's being posted in this thread amounts to tongue-in-cheeck support for murderous extremism, and shouldn't be silently tolerated by any civilized persons. Oh yea! And, I'm a born and raised US citizen, so, rather than "leave", I think I'll stay here and use my/our constitutionally protected ideals of free speech to stand in the path of this murderous and inhuman extremism. Seems fair to me. I thought it pretty much summed it up with the first word... ILLEGAL aliens. Pack their shit and shoot their ass if they return. |
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Several days ago, the LA Times had a big sob story about how bad conditions are in the detention centers. Today, they have this sob story about how bad ankle bracelets are. The liberals are clearly making a big push to eliminate all detention and tracking of illegals. They want illegals to be able to enter this country at will with no delays or inconveniences at the border. The wood chipper is extreme, but no more extreme than the idea of getting rid of our borders and letting illegals cross at will. Perhaps we should consider electronic monitoring as a condition of private military grade weapons ownership? Then we can take it a little further and debate whether anyone who might want to privately own such a weapon should ultimately be considered Human... You are equating gun ownership with illegal immigration? Seems pretty clear that I did, Humans being Humans and all. Being human does not free someone from the consequences of breaking a nations very reasonable laws and violating its sacred sovereignty. You're not talking about a nation, you're talking about a political border defining a state. The word sacred, used in this context, is an extremism buzzword. |
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Well gentlemen, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, for now...
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Los Angeles Times "The Honduran woman and her 11-year-old son were just preparing to leave the detention center in remote Karnes City, Texas, and rejoin family in Chicago, when officials sprang a surprise on her. After spending two months at the facility, the woman faced a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent insisting she accept an electronic ankle monitor as a condition of her release. "No, this is unjust. I don't want you to put it on," said the 32-year-old woman, who asked to be identified only by her first name, Nely, due to her pending immigration case. The official, she recalled, told her: "We give you free food, free clothing, a place to sleep. So you just need to deal with it." GPS ankle monitors are becoming standard equipment for immigration officials along the border. In July, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, used about 9,300 ankle monitors at a time — 40% more than about six months ago. They are run by a government contractor, BI Inc., a subsidiary of the country's second-largest prison company, which also operates immigration detention centers. Officials say the monitors are a cheap and effective way to ensure that immigrants released from detention attend court hearings. The monitors cost an average of $5 a day per person, according to an ICE spokesman, and are part of the agency's Alternatives to Detention program, which also may require immigrants to report by phone or in person. In contrast, detention costs an average of $130 per day per person, and can cost over $330 at some detention centers. ... Immigrants, who call the monitors grilletes, or shackles, complain that they are uncomfortable, inconvenient and carry a stigma. "They feel like a criminal," said Sister Norma Pimentel, who runs an immigrant aid center on the Texas border, in McAllen. "They say, 'How will I be able to work with that?' They pray they don't get it." ..." My proposed alternative: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Europe_Chippers_1.jpg Dude. No shit. Right? Why chip them into a pile. Have a constantly running one chipping them into the Rio Grande. Fish need to eat too. |
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Ankle monitor makes a criminal feel like a criminal. Come here legally and you wont get one.
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I agree the ankle bracelet isn't the best choice, an explosive necklace would be a better choice.
Leave the area your authorized to be in and kaboom. Overstay your visa, kaboom. As you leave the country it deactivates and unlocks. |
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That ankle bracelets sound like a reasonable soulition given the extremely high rate of failure to appear for court dates. The illegals should be paying the $5 a day fee.
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I agree the ankle bracelet isn't the best choice, an explosive necklace would be a better choice. Leave the area your authorized to be in and kaboom. Overstay your visa, kaboom. As you leave the country it deactivates and unlocks. View Quote Pack a blasting cap and strap it to the thigh, put GPS limits on it. You go too far away bad things happen. |
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Here's a better option, get some work out of them while we're at it. Up until about 4 years ago they came by my place all shackled together to mow the ditch with weed eaters with one guy on a horse with a shotgun. I'm guessing it was guys picked up for drunk driving or something. http://www.mhmcintyre.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Chain-Gang-2.jpg View Quote I am good with this. Make THEM build a moat and a wall right on the border. There are so many illegal immigrants, start putting them into use. have them dig a 2 mile wide aquifer that serves as a water barrier and an way to bring water from east to west. They get caught, they get put into the labor camps or stay in a prison with the SAME standards has their host country prisons. |
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I agree with the illegals. After being detained they should be deported. No ankle bracelets need be involved.
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Just deport her and her offspring. We should be running planes and busses out of here 24/7 filled with illegals.
Also, implant an RFID tag into them so we can tell if they're coming back. For everyone that comes back we cut $1 million from the foriegn aid to their home country for that year. Any US business gets a hefty fine for each illegal found working there with an RFID tag. When will most Americans wake up and realize that we're digging our own graves? |
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I could get behind a 3 strike deal, 3rd being sent back over in a slurry churned in a chipper. Without real consequence, what have they to lose?
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Certainly would cut down on the complaining. Would rather these folks try to blend in to the country first. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Your proposed solution is to put people through a wood chipper? Wtf is wrong with you OP? Certainly would cut down on the complaining. Would rather these folks try to blend in to the country first. After the wood chipper they may blend with the mulch. |
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Your proposed solution is to put people through a wood chipper? Wtf is wrong with you OP? Certainly would cut down on the complaining. Would rather these folks try to blend in to the country first. After the wood chipper they may blend with the mulch. Have to freeze them before you chip em or you'll gum everything up. |
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"Oh it makes us feel like criminals, bu bwah, bu bwah, poor me, why would I be considered a criminal when I entered a country ILLEGALLY!?"
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Already here two months. Facing deportation. Two months is long enough, send them back now. View Quote LOL! The average wait to see an IJ (Immigration Judge) is 6-7 years! I agree that it should be quicker, but, liberals and lawyers, and appeals, ya know. Plus, the sheer number of cases, it's almost like something Cloward and Piven had dreamed up. |
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"They say, 'How will I be able to work with that?'" Are you allowed to work if you're in the country illegally? If you have a pending case and are released, you are given an EAD (Employment Authorization Document) pending trial. They know what they're doing when they claim credible fear and / or request an IJ hearing (and give a good enough reason that we don't just ER them). |
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After having seen 3 local cases this year where crimes were committed while wearing an ankle monitor I would go so far to say the animals dont even notice they are being worn...
1 murder, 1 robbery, and 1 domestic violence case. The specialist/officer with training on the ankle monitor tracking system came in and showed where they were at the time the crime occurred. The murder case shows asshole in the parking lot, along with security camera footage, at the time victim was shot. Robbery case the gps monitor showed idiot at multiple locations where women were robbed at the same time... The ankle monitors do not prevent crime for shit. They could be a neck collar tracking device like Mutual Of Omaha's Wild Kingdom and shit would still go down. Maybe if a giant monitor would cause them to be more visible everyone would know to stay the fuck away from them. Make it a giant "cone" like they put on dogs so dogs cannot bite themselves after surgery. I have also seen what appeared to be two random strangers, one male and one female, both with ankle monitors use it as an Ice Breaker to start talking to eachother. Basically "oh hey when were you in", "who's your probation officer", "you want to have a baby together and see if it is born with a little baby ankle monitor?" Hate these people. They need to set the ankle monitors so they deliver a fatal shock if the ankle monitor is in proximity to another monitor for more than a minute. |
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Several days ago, the LA Times had a big sob story about how bad conditions are in the detention centers. Today, they have this sob story about how bad ankle bracelets are. The liberals are clearly making a big push to eliminate all detention and tracking of illegals. They want illegals to be able to enter this country at will with no delays or inconveniences at the border. The wood chipper is extreme, but no more extreme than the idea of getting rid of our borders and letting illegals cross at will. Perhaps we should consider electronic monitoring as a condition of private military grade weapons ownership? Then we can take it a little further and debate whether anyone who might want to privately own such a weapon should ultimately be considered Human... There is a huge difference between tracking and monitoring "non-violent" CRIMINALS and the leap of logic that it would take to gps track and monitor a citizen excercising their constitutionally protected / God given right to self defense, as codified in the 2A. If you don't see the difference,you are beyond help and I hope to God you never get a position in the .gov with any power. |
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Your proposed solution is to put people through a wood chipper? Wtf is wrong with you OP? I know, right? Wood chippers really aren't designed for what are effectively bags of liquid. As well as being messy and inefficient, some poor guy would end up having to crawl inside to un-gunk it several times a day. There really has to be a better option. Maybe one of those pink slime extruders? |
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