Are you asked to buy the shared or classroom use items in your schools district?

I'll admit I'm a nitpicking asshole about this stuff.
But it's amazing how public schools supposedly can't purchase the items on the bottom of the list.

Yes, and as a teacher myself it pisses me off some of the stuff elementary teachers ask for.  They get money to pay for that stuff or it is supplied by the school.

Any teacher that wants to operate beyond their given budget should pay for it themselves.

Any time this comes up in conversation with my wife, she rolls her eyes at me.  Then I bring up how much is given to me and my classes (nothing).  Then she makes this face:  


I will add that if we bought everything on our pre-k teacher's supply list we would have spent over $400.  Multiply that by 17 and you are dealing with over $6000 worth of supplies.

I'd be happy with quality PE equipment.

Make sure to buy it all the FSA kids don't buy any so they take from your kids.

The amount they ask for is what gets me. I get asking for a box of kleenex as it is helpful and it isn't like kids are going to carry small packs with them but 3 boxes? Same goes for a bottle of hand soap although that is kinda pushing it. Stuff like copy paper is a joke.

My kids' school district has go to a generic list by grade. For example, every 3rd grade class in the district has the same list. I like it.

Mine did at least a school level generic list when I went to middle and high school(I'm in my low 30's). One problem I always noticed was that we didn't use like half the shit they told us to buy. Things like dry erase markers were never used. My mom would get a list at the beginning of the year and the first thing I would do is go find the stuff from last year that they said I needed and blew the dust off it.

No, but that's why we pay for private school. Or list was very short and easy
About $35/bucks worth of shit for the year.

Public schools here ask for crayola brand only, and a few asked for ipads.

"that's what I pay taxes for. fuck off"

Exactly.

Well over $20,000 / year / student  here in NY.  

Your expenses are already covered.
Printer cartridges on the teachers "Wish List" ?  ... go fuck yourself.

I don't get why the school asks for supplies to be purchased in tiny increments by the parents of individual students.  For example, the boxes of the Kleenex - wouldn't it be more effective to figure out how many boxes of Kleenex they needed for an entire school by 3 boxes/student x total number of students.  Then negotiate a bulk purchase of Kleenex boxes?  A lot cheaper than having every kid's parents go out and pay retail for 3 boxes.  Cost savings could be significant.

I went to Office Depot and had a stamp made

Paid for by : Mr & Mrs ARMALITEFAN.

I stamped everything I sent with my kids.

I got a call and teacher said she couldn't hand those out to other students . I bought everything on the list.


i SAID YES YOU CAN I JUST WANTED THEM TO KNOW WHO PAID FOR IT



The list was enough for 4 kids

Looks pretty normal to me.

I love how they get pissed off when you don't want to support someone else's crotch fruit.  



 

$400? Let's see the list. . .

 

Our county has a list by grade.  They also tell you that purchasing anything on it is completely optional.  There is no "teacher wish list".

WTF is a PES take home folder and why does it cost $2?? I print folders for a living that had better be one nice ass folder.

Lol... lists.

Log into school supply website... pick school and grade... pay... box shows up on doorstep a few days later.

I got a letter from the school distinct I live with a list of school supplies they wanted everyone to "DONATE" last year.
The list was similar to OP's list.I sent a letter back explaining they get right at 1700 of my property tax and not to send me any more fucking lists.
I don't even have kids!

The crappy schools in the district always get the $100K federal subsidies while the middle class parents have to buy all the supplies for the classrooms and have bake sales.

Dude, you are my fucking hero. That's awesome!

I remember these lists. My mom always managed to buy everything on the list, but we were really fucking poor and it wasn't easy. She blamed us kids, but I have a therapist with whom to discuss that.

I would always get upset because things that my mom scrimped and saved to buy would be handed out to other kids, who had zero respect for it and broke it and then needed replacements. Which meant I didn't get the replacement I needed about halfway through the year. These items tended to be pencils or crayons or folders, things I was very careful to treat with respect because I knew, even as a child, that my mom really couldn't afford them and thus they were a sacrifice for her and us.

The other items - tissues, markers, etc. - we never even saw most of those! A box or two of tissues was used, of course, because kids never have their own tissues. But dry erase markers, coloured markers, and hand soap disappeared, never to be seen again. I firmly believe that either the teacher took them home, or they were handed out to other classes at the school.

Fuck that shit. If I had a kid, I wouldn't buy anything other than what my own child needed. Too bad, so sad for the other kids. All this does is teach the nascent FSA that they don't need to provide anything; someone else will buy it, and they (the FSA) won't even need to feel grateful. They will need, they will get.

You guys buying things for the rest of the class to use are a lot fucking nicer than I would be. A lot fucking nicer.

I like to enter sweepstakes.  One year when I was perusing sweepstakes I came across a "restricted" sweepstakes.  It was for teachers only.  The teacher had to specify a certain product on their school supply list and then send a copy of the list and their name, address, etc to be entered in the sweepstakes.  I cannot remember the exact product, but it really pissed me off because at the time I was buying most of my grandkids school supplies because my daughter could not afford to and that also included the "uniform" clothes, certain colors of polo-type shirts and certain colors of shorts/long pants.

Put man on the moon with people who were educated in grade school with the following.

Yes and I don't buy any of it.

Fuck that.

My kids get everything they need...... I'm not buying all the others kids shit.

Or the teachers supplies.

Maybe if I asked the schools to pay for my work supplies.

Exactly my move if they sent me a letter. How about a refund based on the districts academic performance?

 

Comic fucking sans.

HA I didn't notice that.

How about they get rid of one of those two teachers and be able to afford shit for the classroom instead?

Cry me a river. Wife's a teacher and idgaf

I'd be okay with it, if they didn't steal my money to build a sports complex.

Shit, where I grew up, they stole peoples homes to enlarge a highs chool baseball field.

The 4 women that work in my office were bitching about this.

I came up with a novel idea. "Use some common sense and buy what your child needs. What the fuck are they going to do, arrest you?".

*****crickets******

They were afraid to do it.  Its a small town. I was the highschool principals aide for 4 years, his wife is one of the lower grade teachers and was the secretary back when i worked in the office 10 years ago.

I told my coworkers that if they get in trouble for it, just to tell them that fella said go fuck themselves, socialism is bad. Apparently it already got around that i said that. I saw the principal at the store a few days ago and he couldnt stop smiling and shaking his head. He said i was still the same as when i was a kid.

I think its important that people stand up to this horseshit. Be vocal.

We just voted an 8 million dollar bond in for a new vo-ag shop, track, and stadium which a lot of ppl bitched about but i felt was needed. Sounds like we needed to vote in a bond for fuckin copy paper instead. It is baffling how much paper a school goes through. We had 2 big copiers in the highschool office that everyone used for high volume stuff. We went through a case a day or every other day.

And dont get me started on teachers pay. Teachers start at 40 grand a year here, work 8 months. No manual labor. When i started doing industrial mechanical work i made a hell of a lot less, worked a hell of a lot more and spent thousands on tools every year.

We always "modify" the lists to suit reality.

I absolutely refuse to buy shit that will be handed out to other people's kids, and I absolutely will not buy shit that the school should be perfectly capable of providing for themselves, such as copy paper, paper towels, hand soap, dry erase markers(for use by the teachers), big Kleenex boxes, etc.

We make sure our kids have the things they need.

There is no way in hell our kids are going to need 50ct #2 pencils, 500 sheets wide rule paper, 4 boxes of colored pencils, etc. on day one of the school year.

this is the sad reality, you pay taxes for public schools to attempt to  educate the fsa, then you pay again  for them to steal supplies you get for your child
bullshit of the highest order.
I would be very happy if those who do not wish to attend school would get the fuck out and make room for those who wish to learn

they left off condoms and morning after birth control pills

I wonder why, with that stinky attitude

This. New dodgeballs and the kids will be learning valuable life lessons like pecking order in no time.

this is a tough one. my other half is a teacher.

I understand the ridicule and hatred towards said list. I don't personally agree with buying things the school should provide/supply.

But I do know who buys it and where the money comes from when those supplies aren't provided or available, yet are still needed. I hear about the kids who got sent to school without a lunch, and would be forced to sit and watch the other kids eat if help wasn't provided by means of sharing from her own lunch or buying something. Kids use consumable materials like pencils, markers, crayons, paper. They're messy, they are snot factories. Then the bitching about kids coming home sick because little Johnny went to school and spread his cold around because mom or dad can't afford to take the day off to stay home for financial reasons, yet the school doesn't provide hand sanitizer or Lysol wipes, etc.

I'm far from a socialist, but taking care of only #1 isn't going to help anyone. Teachers don't make squat, and when they have to couch up for needed stuff out of their own pocket, it's not your kids that are suffering as a result.

This isn't starving kids in some third world shithole. It's your neighbors.

All I ask is that my students come with a pencil, an eraser, and a way to sharpen their pencil.

I am not anti teacher and I know they do their best.As for the other parts of your post..I really do not care if a kid comes to school without lunch. That is a parental failure and not my problem. with all the .gov programs nobody is so poor that they cannot eat  the cause of no lunch is either: useless parents too lazy to make a lunch or shitbag parents who know that "someone" will do the right thing and feed their children if they don't give them lunch and use the money on drugs/ alcohol, new purse, new weave..take your pick. Either way ..I don't fucking care. Continuing to enable shit behavior breeds more shit behavior

Yep.  

 

How long before to start listing basic cleaning supplies on the list such as industrial grade cleaner, mop heads, and floor polishers?

I used to have this same attitude. But as I got older, I realised that the little FSA kids, with a few exceptions, grow up to suck on the taxpayer tit, feel entitled to other people's money / work / whatever, and stink up the world with their shitty attitude. Then they go and have more kids. Going without markers at school isn't going to ruin their lives. Nor is going without lunch. Been there, didn't die. I also question the necessity of most of the crap on those lists. The coinciding of the decline in American educational standards with feel-good classroom activities like colouring and all that crap cannot be ignored. For millennia, pupils needed nothing more than something to write on and something to write with, plus a qualified teacher with maybe a large blackboard-like surface if one could be had. They produced some fine scholars, ideas, theories, and knowledge. If teachers are so worried about kids not all getting their coloured pencils, then they should seriously consider curtailing schoolroom activities to ones that don't require that jazz, or suck it up and buy the materials themselves. I know a lot do anyway, but plenty don't. Fuck me, this is partly why I have a teaching degree I'll never use - classroom and district politics, deadbeat parents, helicopter parents, kids who were born thinking they were deserving of all the finer things in life and who grow up to never change.

Anyway, since today's teachers insist that school isn't just about book learning, but about socialization, what does giving out free supplies bought by some of the students but not all teach children? They have no idea where the supplies came from, because the teachers, in a brainless bid to "not make little Johnny feel bad about receiving someone else's pencils," never inform the students that generous parents have effectively acted as their benefactors. That would be too cold and capitalist. Instead, this feel-good wealth redistribution teaches kids that they will be given the things they need. By someone else. No gratitude or deeper thinking about this dynamic ever happens. The kids whose parents ponied up for the supplies learn that their possessions can and will be taken away from them to be given to someone else.

Yeah, you could say my attitude is cold. It is cold. It comes from living long enough to have seen the cycle of life come back home to roost, and the next fledgling is just another FSA kid that was only born because mom & dad's one-night stand was unprotected. It doesn't help that I remember quite well how the other kids who were given my supplies treated me like crap over the years, because I was shy and they were loud and aggressive.

Bull shit, and Michigan teachers are grossly overpaid, before you even consider the medical and pension plans.

The only 'classroom supplies' I was asked to bring to school when I went in the '90's, was a box of tissues, a few pieces of chalk, and some extra pencils.  So...less than $5 worth of stuff.  It was all kept in our class room...locked up in a closet and teachers desk.  It wasn't shared throughout the school.

As a teacher, fuck this shit. I'd rather max out my copier quota than send home a list like this.

And yes, copy quotas are a thing.

One of my best friends moved over here from England a couple of years ago with his wife and 9-year-old son. He was surprised to learn that he was expected to provide his son's school supplies. In the UK, public school students are supplied with all of their needed school stuff by the local school district, paid for by the taxpayers.

I get it to some extent at the public schools. I don't think I should have to provide it given I pay plenty of taxes and that should cover me. Not to say I wouldn't do it if we asked as more of a favor instead of "required". What really pisses me off is my daughter goes to a private pre-school and I pay good money for her to go, then they "require" us to buy extra materials for other students as if they can't afford it

Oh look, yet another teacher bashing thread on ARFCOM, hmmm...must be Sunday. I'd wish I had all the money back my wife has blown on school supplies, art bullshit, tussues, soap, pencils, pens and the like all for your damn kids. And as for copy paper, she gets a quota on what can be copied and how many copies she can make. Jesus, I wish you people were as vocal at your local school board meetings as you are here. Quit living in the past when schools were funded. Yes, yes..it's all the teachers fault that the school system blows their money on hooked and blow, they must be punished. Go call the school board president and have them show you where your money went and why you think you're being hosed for a pencil. For Christ's sakes, come out of the basement and go to school and talk to the teacher aboug her/his budget.