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Same here. Not every rc quadcopter has cameras. Please remove the tinfoil. Your yard is probably not that exciting to film. |
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These threads are always fun.
Some dude with a toy.....OMG they are spying me. I Need to shoot it down. Fuck laws and the FAA. The NSA spies on EVERY thing you do, say, etc...and nobody cares. |
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Like the Kentucky guy that shot one down? He said it was hovering over his 16 year old daughter while she was sunbathing by the pool. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. Like the Kentucky guy that shot one down? He said it was hovering over his 16 year old daughter while she was sunbathing by the pool. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yea I would have shot the drone as well. I would also have a long, tense conversation with the owner |
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"I wasn't shooting at the drone, officer, I didn't even know it was there. I was shooting trap when it came into my line of fire and it was accidentally destroyed."
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My issue is the faa is just plain stupid about these things. To operate them commercially you need a waiver and it will be n-numbered, light plans sometimes even have to be filed. The drone laws are just plain stupid. If we let it regulate itself for a few years before we just start screaming for the faa to do something we would have a much better chance of getting sensible laws about this. I don't like it being regulated at all but let's not screw everyone over by being stupid. This is just like the guys who write letters about the sig brace....
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What if your drone just disappeared over my property?
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Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. So don't complain when your toy gets shot when leaving your land. |
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If you want to shoot a bicyclist for riding in your back yard looking in your window, go ahead.
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Change a few words and this sounds like a bicyclist thread. Same stupid arguments where the cyclist/drone operators can do whatever they want because freedom. View Quote |
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FAA regulatory authority covers everything from ground level up. You own the ground, not the airspace. Just because the toy is flying low doesn't mean it is trespassing any more than a jet that passes thousands of feet overhead. Most of them don't even have cameras. It's only trespassing if it deliberately lands on your property. Nothing to prevent someone from flying over your house in an ultralight with a camera. But go ahead and keep advocating shooting down aircraft in FAA regulated airspace and see how that works out for you. ;) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. You said it's "your own yard" It's only trespassing if it deliberately lands on your property. Nothing to prevent someone from flying over your house in an ultralight with a camera. But go ahead and keep advocating shooting down aircraft in FAA regulated airspace and see how that works out for you. ;) I think your misinformed. Navigable airspace ends at 500 feet and there was a SCOTUS ruling back in 1946 the actually drew the line in the "air" at 83 feet. Some low flying aircraft were scaring this farmers chickens literally to death and this went all the way to the top. We used to live within 4 miles of Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee and got involved in the sound abatement program in the late 90's. We had all these wonderful upgrades done to our house but we had to sign away the rights to the airspace above our house to the feds to complete the deal. If I remember it was 500 feet but I could be wrong. If there is some idiots drone below 100 feet above my property I will be mounting AA sights on my old Remington 552 speedmaster and let loose the birdshot. |
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+1 Same here. Not every rc quadcopter has cameras. Please remove the tinfoil. Your yard is probably not that exciting to film. View Quote I still don't want them crashing into my cars, my house, my dogs, or my head. Keep your drone over your property, over public property. But get your fucking toys away from mine. Also, your "drone" (toy) is not an aircraft. The FAA is referencing actual drones that fly in navigable airspace, not your toy that you bought at the RC shop and now think is protected or regulated by the FAA. It's NOT. |
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Serious question, if it legitimately crash lands on residential private property, does the owner have the right to retrieve it without permission? View Quote No. Just like large game that you shoot and it runs onto neighboring private property. You must get permission to retrieve it. You cannot just hop the fence and do that, unless you have an understanding in place (which is the smart thing to do anyways....know your neighbors, and don't shoot animals that might run onto the property of owners that you know won't welcome your retrieval). |
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There is a difference between PETA assholes and people flying RC planes and copters for a hobby. View Quote To me, it's the same thing. Keep your toys on your property. Once they come over mine and are low enough to be targets and I have a shotgun and I'm in a rural area? Yah, that's coming down, bro. Again, keep your toys over your own place or public property. But private.......GTFO |
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Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. View Quote So you will be ok when and if some perv fly's a "Toy" over your yard to film maybe your daughters laying out in bikinis or your wife etc The air space over my land belongs to me and my privacy it is not to be invaded by some dipshit who wants to play with his "Toy" |
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With new technological means of being a fucking perverted asshole, we do. People with these high-end camera drones should be leading the charge to protect private property. Apparently, they are too stupid to do so, so the .gov is going to simply crush the whole thing in the coming years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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<snip> There is a difference between PETA assholes and people flying RC planes and copters for a hobby. I agree. And they are fun. However, flying over others private property is a bad idea. With new technological means of being a fucking perverted asshole, we do. People with these high-end camera drones should be leading the charge to protect private property. Apparently, they are too stupid to do so, so the .gov is going to simply crush the whole thing in the coming years. My yard is 100% private from the property line. Some creep wants to watch my wife skinny dip with a drone? Recovering their property will be the least of their worries. |
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Quoted: Quoted: It's damn time these things become more regulated imho. If one can fly over a short "toy" distance it certainly needs regulated and should have some method to show up aircraft radar. One issue so many interferring with air ambulances, fire fighting aircraft and around airports. Second major issue is violation of privacy and safety of flying close to our crashing into people. Hell if someone is flying a drone so close to me I could and do bat it down that should be the pilots problem. |
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FAA regulatory authority covers everything from ground level up. You own the ground, not the airspace. Just because the toy is flying low doesn't mean it is trespassing any more than a jet that passes thousands of feet overhead. Most of them don't even have cameras. It's only trespassing if it deliberately lands on your property. Nothing to prevent someone from flying over your house in an ultralight with a camera. But go ahead and keep advocating shooting down aircraft in FAA regulated airspace and see how that works out for you. ;) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. You said it's "your own yard" It's only trespassing if it deliberately lands on your property. Nothing to prevent someone from flying over your house in an ultralight with a camera. But go ahead and keep advocating shooting down aircraft in FAA regulated airspace and see how that works out for you. ;) LOL This is why our country is running like dogshit Because we're a bunch of rule-following children who have passionate opinions about nothing A toy helicopter isn't an aircraft Saying it is makes you look silly |
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Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. So don't complain when your toy gets shot when leaving your land. The gay ass drone has a video of me on my porch with a beer.. A guy in a clown mask enters my yard with a shotgun and blows the thing from the sky. Go ahead and prove that I know the clown. Especially with the non aggressive,if any,investigation that a damaged toy will bring. |
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You can buy radio frequency jammers. Turn it in when it's over your property, let it hit the ground and it's yours. I wouldn't be a dick about it but if the drone was spying on you, checking to see what your doing such as cutting down trees, hunting, or at the pool with the wife or girlfriend and kids, I'd say it is sexual harassment, and turn on your jammer to make it fall.
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About the same time barking dogs become annoying, which is after the first couple of barks.
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+1 Same here. Not every rc quadcopter has cameras. Please remove the tinfoil. Your yard is probably not that exciting to film. View Quote Don't sink too much money into your copter I think you're going to be surprised what happens to it not everyone is as clever and worldly as you some of us might just might fuck up your copter and then dare you to come and get it |
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I fucking hate the gov getting involved in anything, but the simple fact is the gov is just itching to regulate these things and idiots all over the country are giving them ammo. It's only a matter of time.
Front page of FoxNews today has an article about one in the flight path of an a/c approaching JFK. |
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I feel like this is one area that no one should try to regulate. Don't regulate where it can/can't go, and don't regulate what happens to it when someone does something to it. Just let it play out. Hands off approach I think would work well. View Quote I'd like to see a test case where a judge would rule a person owns a cube of space over their property and not just the flat earth. 400 feet seems reasonable. |
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Unfortunately the faa has said these small drones are not toys. To operate a dji phantom (a toy to some) commercially you MUST have a waiver and it must be n numbered according to the faa. Now how many people do that is not many. But if it must be registered for commercial use it stands to follow that in the faa eyes non commercial users are still aircraft. They still must follow the faa rules of line of sight below 400 foot operation only, not within 4 nm of controlled airspace
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I would think a Drozd BB gun or even a paintball gun could be fun too. Probably more accurate than a battery of bottle rockets
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I'll buy a radio frequency jammer and invest the time to learn how to use it What do you think is going to happen the minute you turn on your new toy and learn how to use it? You're going to say "This is awesome" and forget which side you were on in the first place This will also be the end of your credit card, so bitching on the internet and getting liberals to ban things will probably be the easiest and cheapest thing for you to do. |
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I would think a Drozd BB gun or even a paintball gun could be fun too. Probably more accurate than a battery of bottle rockets Heck depending on the altitude, even a garden hose could work...I would think View Quote A motion detector combined w/ a garden hose could work really well. |
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Quoted: Would it be illegal if everytime you flew your drone on my property I as out practicing with mine and I happened to collide into yours? It wouldn't be on purpose, I'm just learning to fly the drone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Since I live in a residential area where shooting would be problematic, I'd get one of those stupid-powerful laser pointers if I had a drone problem. Fry the drone with no safety issues (falling bullets) or legal issues (discharge in residential area). And then I'd still have a stupid-powerful laser to play with. Would it be illegal if everytime you flew your drone on my property I as out practicing with mine and I happened to collide into yours? It wouldn't be on purpose, I'm just learning to fly the drone. |
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Quoted: Yeah. It's all fun and games until your wife is sunbathing in the privacy of her garden or the kids are playing out in the garden and some creep is snooping on her and posting it on social media. the problem is that the legislation has yet to catch up. In the mean time, idiots will behave irresponsibly and abuse what is essentially a pretty good tool, or recreational activity and, bring about a lot of negative public opinion which will drive the legislation to make it harder for those who use these things sensibly. There needs to be a set of ground rules layed out that protects the privacy of people in their own homes and on their own property, if this is not already in place. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: ok, so in summary so far we've established: a: the FAA owns airspace, not the property owner - unless the drone is on the ground, it is not a good shoot b: waaaaa seriously people, I dont think anyone here is so dang interesting that you have to hide from the drone paparazzi. Yeah. It's all fun and games until your wife is sunbathing in the privacy of her garden or the kids are playing out in the garden and some creep is snooping on her and posting it on social media. the problem is that the legislation has yet to catch up. In the mean time, idiots will behave irresponsibly and abuse what is essentially a pretty good tool, or recreational activity and, bring about a lot of negative public opinion which will drive the legislation to make it harder for those who use these things sensibly. There needs to be a set of ground rules layed out that protects the privacy of people in their own homes and on their own property, if this is not already in place. There is already a set of laws that prevents this sort of thing. But people have an irrational fear of "drones". |
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Quoted: I think your misinformed. Navigable airspace ends at 500 feet and there was a SCOTUS ruling back in 1946 the actually drew the line in the "air" at 83 feet. Some low flying aircraft were scaring this farmers chickens literally to death and this went all the way to the top. We used to live within 4 miles of Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee and got involved in the sound abatement program in the late 90's. We had all these wonderful upgrades done to our house but we had to sign away the rights to the airspace above our house to the feds to complete the deal. If I remember it was 500 feet but I could be wrong. If there is some idiots drone below 100 feet above my property I will be mounting AA sights on my old Remington 552 speedmaster and let loose the birdshot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. You said it's "your own yard" It's only trespassing if it deliberately lands on your property. Nothing to prevent someone from flying over your house in an ultralight with a camera. But go ahead and keep advocating shooting down aircraft in FAA regulated airspace and see how that works out for you. ;) I think your misinformed. Navigable airspace ends at 500 feet and there was a SCOTUS ruling back in 1946 the actually drew the line in the "air" at 83 feet. Some low flying aircraft were scaring this farmers chickens literally to death and this went all the way to the top. We used to live within 4 miles of Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee and got involved in the sound abatement program in the late 90's. We had all these wonderful upgrades done to our house but we had to sign away the rights to the airspace above our house to the feds to complete the deal. If I remember it was 500 feet but I could be wrong. If there is some idiots drone below 100 feet above my property I will be mounting AA sights on my old Remington 552 speedmaster and let loose the birdshot. The headline would be some shit about a "drone" because that sells. But really it should read, "Crazed man with gun shoots down toy helicopter". |
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Quoted: I still don't want them crashing into my cars, my house, my dogs, or my head. Keep your drone over your property, over public property. But get your fucking toys away from mine. Also, your "drone" (toy) is not an aircraft. The FAA is referencing actual drones that fly in navigable airspace, not your toy that you bought at the RC shop and now think is protected or regulated by the FAA. It's NOT. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: +1 Same here. Not every rc quadcopter has cameras. Please remove the tinfoil. Your yard is probably not that exciting to film. I still don't want them crashing into my cars, my house, my dogs, or my head. Keep your drone over your property, over public property. But get your fucking toys away from mine. Also, your "drone" (toy) is not an aircraft. The FAA is referencing actual drones that fly in navigable airspace, not your toy that you bought at the RC shop and now think is protected or regulated by the FAA. It's NOT. |
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Quoted: To me, it's the same thing. Keep your toys on your property. Once they come over mine and are low enough to be targets and I have a shotgun and I'm in a rural area? Yah, that's coming down, bro. Again, keep your toys over your own place or public property. But private.......GTFO View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There is a difference between PETA assholes and people flying RC planes and copters for a hobby. To me, it's the same thing. Keep your toys on your property. Once they come over mine and are low enough to be targets and I have a shotgun and I'm in a rural area? Yah, that's coming down, bro. Again, keep your toys over your own place or public property. But private.......GTFO Well to the law, you're in the wrong. You'd take a trip to jail. Then you'd buy me a new drone and pay my lawyer fees after you lose the civil suit. Look it up, its happened already. You going to shoot at the guy in the ultralight? Same thing. |
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Quoted: So you will be ok when and if some perv fly's a "Toy" over your yard to film maybe your daughters laying out in bikinis or your wife etc The air space over my land belongs to me and my privacy it is not to be invaded by some dipshit who wants to play with his "Toy" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. So you will be ok when and if some perv fly's a "Toy" over your yard to film maybe your daughters laying out in bikinis or your wife etc The air space over my land belongs to me and my privacy it is not to be invaded by some dipshit who wants to play with his "Toy" There is no difference between this and holding a camera over the fence. The problem is you want to make a law against the copters when there is already a law against peeping toms. |
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Quoted: Fuck these toys and fuck these boys who play with them...over my space.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's damn time these things become more regulated imho. If one can fly over a short "toy" distance it certainly needs regulated and should have some method to show up aircraft radar. One issue so many interferring with air ambulances, fire fighting aircraft and around airports. Second major issue is violation of privacy and safety of flying close to our crashing into people. Hell if someone is flying a drone so close to me I could and do bat it down that should be the pilots problem. |
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Quoted: You can buy radio frequency jammers. Turn it in when it's over your property, let it hit the ground and it's yours. I wouldn't be a dick about it but if the drone was spying on you, checking to see what your doing such as cutting down trees, hunting, or at the pool with the wife or girlfriend and kids, I'd say it is sexual harassment, and turn on your jammer to make it fall. View Quote |
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When it crosses the property line. Pull! Stop reading my thoughts. Absolutely verbatim. LOL...I can't believe you flew into my skeet range....... Sorry about that. |
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You're not going to jail for shooting a toy. If anything you might get cited for shooting in the city limits if that were the case. It's a civil matter, not criminal.
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It's damn time these things become more regulated imho. If one can fly over a short "toy" distance it certainly needs regulated and should have some method to show up aircraft radar. One issue so many interferring with air ambulances, fire fighting aircraft and around airports. Second major issue is violation of privacy and safety of flying close to our crashing into people. Hell if someone is flying a drone so close to me I could and do bat it down that should be the pilots problem. View Quote Bahahaha more regulation is the answer. All you who willingly give over the ability to regulate every facet of our lives to the .gov are then surprised when they use it to control guns, speech, freedom of religion etc. I have the solution to invasive drones..... they are called curtains. They should make a law so that my {retired police dispatcher) neighbor can't sit in his yard and use binoculars too because he is invading our privacy. And I don't understand the whole worry about being hit by planes.... maybe if you had a 60lb drone that is 4 feet across. Most of these little drones weigh as much as a snickers bar and would probably be less than a regular bird strike. |
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Quoted: You're not going to jail for shooting a toy. If anything you might get cited for shooting in the city limits if that were the case. It's a civil matter, not criminal. And on rural property, good luck getting the thing back without being cited for trespassing. View Quote Just wait until Amazon gets their drone delivery service up and running. The law will be written to protect drones since there is a big corporation with a final final interest in them. |
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I would say the moment I notice it. And #4s through a modified choke oughta do it.
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The gay ass drone has a video of me on my porch with a beer.. A guy in a clown mask enters my yard with a shotgun and blows the thing from the sky. Go ahead and prove that I know the clown. Especially with the non aggressive,if any,investigation that a damaged toy will bring. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just because it has 4 propellers instead of one doesn't make an RC toy a "drone". All these grown men afraid of toys. You aren't important enough for anyone to give a shit what you do in your yard. So don't complain when your toy gets shot when leaving your land. The gay ass drone has a video of me on my porch with a beer.. A guy in a clown mask enters my yard with a shotgun and blows the thing from the sky. Go ahead and prove that I know the clown. Especially with the non aggressive,if any,investigation that a damaged toy will bring. I am pro freedom and pro drone. But that is hilarious. Made me laugh out loud. Nicely done! |
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You can buy radio frequency jammers. Turn it in when it's over your property, let it hit the ground and it's yours. I wouldn't be a dick about it but if the drone was spying on you, checking to see what your doing such as cutting down trees, hunting, or at the pool with the wife or girlfriend and kids, I'd say it is sexual harassment, and turn on your jammer to make it fall. View Quote Link to jammer? |
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ok, so in summary so far we've established: a: the FAA owns airspace, not the property owner - unless the drone is on the ground, it is not a good shoot b: waaaaa seriously people, I dont think anyone here is so dang interesting that you have to hide from the drone paparazzi. View Quote That's not the point. The point is, the drone may be in the air, but if you're filming my property, you're essentially "touching" my property. And if you aren't filming, but flying low enough as to cause me a distraction, I'll knock that motherfucker out of the sky. And no, you can't come get it. Fucking drone queers are the new highway bicycle riders of 2015. Keep your shit out of my hair. |
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+1 Same here. Not every rc quadcopter has cameras. Please remove the tinfoil. Your yard is probably not that exciting to film. View Quote No they don't. If one goes haywire or crashes in my yard as its traveling over, fuck yeah come and get it. No harm, no foul. But buzzing around my yard or over my head just off the rooftop or whatever and refusing to GTFO, you're dicking with me on purpose. And we aren't gonna get along. Stay out of my shit and I'll stay out of yours. |
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You can buy radio frequency jammers. Turn it in when it's over your property, let it hit the ground and it's yours. I wouldn't be a dick about it but if the drone was spying on you, checking to see what your doing such as cutting down trees, hunting, or at the pool with the wife or girlfriend and kids, I'd say it is sexual harassment, and turn on your jammer to make it fall. View Quote You realize a lot of them have a return to where you launched option when they lose radio connection don't you? It's not like they land immediately. |
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It is illegal to run a spark gap generator to spoof the drone... but how does one gather evidence determine that a person created radio interference (rhetorical question)?
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