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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:11:27 PM EDT
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glad he's dead
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:11:48 PM EDT
[#2]
They'll probably get sued.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:12:52 PM EDT
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meh who cares, the only people that died were the ones who stole it
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:14:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Cops kind of can't win when it comes to some douche who speeds off
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:14:36 PM EDT
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meh who cares, the only people that died were the ones who stole it Multiple people suffered property damage, and other drivers were injured. I assume they care. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:15:14 PM EDT
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I didn't see anything about stop sticks in the article
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:15:56 PM EDT
[#7]
uh why wouldn't the perp be liable?
does "good faith" mean anything to you? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:17:17 PM EDT
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uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? Perp's dead, and probably some low life scum with no money. City govt has deep pockets. 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:18:06 PM EDT
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meh who cares, the only people that died were the ones who stole it I will bet the woman the van hit has lifelong issues from the crash.....let alone the property damage.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:18:56 PM EDT
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who steals a pt cruiser?
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:20:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: glad he's dead |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:21:19 PM EDT
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I didn't see anything about stop sticks in the article It says it in the video. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:21:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Damn all that over a pt cruiser
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:22:37 PM EDT
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Carjacked a fucking PT Cruiser?
Good sticking. PT cruisers are justification for the use of lethal force. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:23:52 PM EDT
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Perp's dead, and probably some low life scum with no money. City govt has deep pockets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? Perp's dead, and probably some low life scum with no money. City govt has deep pockets. fuck that. his living relatives should be made to work off the damages. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:23:55 PM EDT
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who steals a pt cruiser? LMFAO and not just any old PT. They went for the wood grain. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:24:53 PM EDT
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fuck that. his living relatives should be made to work off the damages. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? Perp's dead, and probably some low life scum with no money. City govt has deep pockets. fuck that. his living relatives should be made to work off the damages. LOL, send them to debters prison. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:27:20 PM EDT
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Seems irresponsible with potential oncoming traffic
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:27:56 PM EDT
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fuck that. his living relatives should be made to work off the damages. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? Perp's dead, and probably some low life scum with no money. City govt has deep pockets. fuck that. his living relatives should be made to work off the damages. Your not suppose to drink the bong water bud. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:29:14 PM EDT
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Seems irresponsible with potential oncoming traffic There reasonable space for argument that stop sticks weren't the only means they had available to handle this. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:29:52 PM EDT
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The police are never liable, the citizens who employ the police are the ones who foot the bill.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:34:25 PM EDT
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If the perp wouldn't have stolen such a shitty car, he wouldn't have lost control post stop sticks. Chryslers fault for sure.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:39:11 PM EDT
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Video won't play, but the article doesn't mention stop sticks. Also says that the chase was off and police cars were a distance away when the bad guy wrecked. So what are we talking about?
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:41:08 PM EDT
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My old agency got into a pursuit, and as they were going into a city, the city agency was kind of enough to lay out spike strips..
Well after seeing lights approaching, city officer deployed spikes, getting one of suspects tires. Said officer jumped into his unit and took off pursuing the suspect leaving his spikes in the roadway 
Took out all 4 tires of the primary officers unit, 1 of secondary unit and 3 of motorist driving before county units removed the cities spikes....... Thank God no one was hurt including the motorist, but the city got to pay for 8 tires... |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:41:17 PM EDT
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Video won't play, but the article doesn't mention stop sticks. Also says that the chase was off and police cars were a distance away when the bad guy wrecked. So what are we talking about? Sounds like you you need the video. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:44:14 PM EDT
[#26]
who was the perp?
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:45:12 PM EDT
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This is kind of a tough one.
On one hand, can the cops really be expected to foresee this kind of thing? What exactly does their policy say on the deployment of stop sticks? On the other hand, the one witness did have a point. The cops probably could have backed off sooner, and let the bird work. The helicopter would have had no problem tracking these guys, they were in a fucking wood grained PT Cruiser for crying out lout. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:46:54 PM EDT
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It's been shown time and time again that cops are never liable for their actions.
I await the blue line brigade to crash in. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:48:27 PM EDT
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This is kind of a tough one. On one hand, can the cops really be expected to foresee this kind of thing? What exactly does their policy say on the deployment of stop sticks? On the other hand, the one witness did have a point. The cops probably could have backed off sooner, and let the bird work. The helicopter would have had no problem tracking these guys, they were in a fucking wood grained PT Cruiser for crying out lout. I'm 99% positive they backed off because there were stop sticks ahead, not because they were worried about public safety. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:49:14 PM EDT
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Multiple people suffered property damage, and other drivers were injured. I assume they care. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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meh who cares, the only people that died were the ones who stole it Multiple people suffered property damage, and other drivers were injured. I assume they care. Caring and being liable are different. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:51:21 PM EDT
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Sounds like you you need the video. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Video won't play, but the article doesn't mention stop sticks. Also says that the chase was off and police cars were a distance away when the bad guy wrecked. So what are we talking about? Sounds like you you need the video. Ok, got it to work. Makes no sense. If they called off the chase, why was anyone ahead of the fleeing vehicle with stop sticks? No point in deploying those if no one is close for the end of the thing. If the guy wrecked on his own, whatever. If he wrecked on his own, on purpose, but after sticks, department will pay some money. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:55:09 PM EDT
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I'm 99% positive they backed off because there were stop sticks ahead, not because they were worried about public safety. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is kind of a tough one. On one hand, can the cops really be expected to foresee this kind of thing? What exactly does their policy say on the deployment of stop sticks? On the other hand, the one witness did have a point. The cops probably could have backed off sooner, and let the bird work. The helicopter would have had no problem tracking these guys, they were in a fucking wood grained PT Cruiser for crying out lout. I'm 99% positive they backed off because there were stop sticks ahead, not because they were worried about public safety. There would be radio traffic recorded. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:58:00 PM EDT
[#33]
Now that's a fine looking car.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:00:20 PM EDT
[#34]
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This is kind of a tough one. On one hand, can the cops really be expected to foresee this kind of thing? What exactly does their policy say on the deployment of stop sticks? On the other hand, the one witness did have a point. The cops probably could have backed off sooner, and let the bird work. The helicopter would have had no problem tracking these guys, they were in a fucking wood grained PT Cruiser for crying out lout. As a LE helicopter pilot, I can assure you that we (the air unit) lose people all the time. It should never be assumed that just because a helicopter is involved in the chase, that there's no way the bad guy will get away. It's just not that easy. Cops are in a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation. Should they just let a car-jacking suspect get away? What if the suspect also shot and killed someone--how about then? It's a question each agency asks themselves when they write, or re-write their pursuit policy. Ours changed years ago when a chase of a stolen vehicle resulted in the death of a teenager who was riding in a van who just happened to be in town for a little league game. After that, violent forcible felonies only. The bad part about a car chase is that it nearly always ends in a crash--either the suspect, the cops, innocent motorists, or all three. I don't know what the answer is. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:01:39 PM EDT
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uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? lol crackers be so ignorant "Hey Jenkins, your son owes like 50k in property damages. If you don't pay, your credit is fucked" "WTF is credit fool?" Yeah, I'm sure the perp's family is really sorry and is going to work his low-end jobs for thirty years to make sure the victims get restitution. Seriously. White people think this. Don't wonder why the country is in the toilet. Seriously. Perp's family gonna pay. LOL and Romney's gonna beat Obama. Can't make this shit up. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:01:53 PM EDT
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Im not a cop and I dont think they are infallable (sp?) But what should they do? The chopper alone wont catch the individuals. The cop that smoked that guy in Ohio probably prevented a situation like this only taking out the guy with an open gin bottle and hes charged as a criminal. These guys are trying to stop a pursuit, its on the criminals terms he's leading it, and people say this resolution is the cops fault. Ok just let them all go they will probably get tired of getting away with it and quit.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:02:17 PM EDT
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That is one unsightly lesbian, her nostrils are just right in your face.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:02:31 PM EDT
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I'm 99% positive they backed off because there were stop sticks ahead, not because they were worried about public safety. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is kind of a tough one. On one hand, can the cops really be expected to foresee this kind of thing? What exactly does their policy say on the deployment of stop sticks? On the other hand, the one witness did have a point. The cops probably could have backed off sooner, and let the bird work. The helicopter would have had no problem tracking these guys, they were in a fucking wood grained PT Cruiser for crying out lout. I'm 99% positive they backed off because there were stop sticks ahead, not because they were worried about public safety. "Backed off" is correct term, but not "trailing". It is advisable to increase the distance between the suspect vehicle and the pursuit vehicle when approaching the deployment location. It is easily done by coming of the gas a bit opening the gap between the suspect and pursuit vehicle.  " />
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:03:09 PM EDT
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In Nebraska (and only Nebraska has this statute) the police (government subdivision that employes them anyway) are liable for all damage caused during a police pursuit. Third party's car gets hit, police pay. Third party's fence gets driven through, police pay. Passenger in the vehicle being chased gets hurt when they crash, police pay. The only exception is if you can show that the passenger in the vehicle being pursued actively participated and encouraged the driver to flee.
Oh, and as far as calling off the pursuit. Unless there is a significant amount of time and distance involved between the police shutting off the lights and sirens and whatever event lead to the damage, police are still gonna pay. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:05:07 PM EDT
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lol crackers be so ignorant "Hey Jenkins, your son owes like 50k in property damages. If you don't pay, your credit is fucked" "WTF is credit fool?" Yeah, I'm sure the perp's family is really sorry and is going to work his low-end jobs for thirty years to make sure the victims get restitution. Seriously. White people think this. Don't wonder why the country is in the toilet. Seriously. Perp's family gonna pay. LOL and Romney's gonna beat Obama. Can't make this shit up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? lol crackers be so ignorant "Hey Jenkins, your son owes like 50k in property damages. If you don't pay, your credit is fucked" "WTF is credit fool?" Yeah, I'm sure the perp's family is really sorry and is going to work his low-end jobs for thirty years to make sure the victims get restitution. Seriously. White people think this. Don't wonder why the country is in the toilet. Seriously. Perp's family gonna pay. LOL and Romney's gonna beat Obama. Can't make this shit up. Who's white? Me? Try again. And I'm not saying it would happen. Just that it should. Lot of fucking ASSumptions in your bullshit reply. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:07:48 PM EDT
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Your not suppose to drink the bong water bud. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? Perp's dead, and probably some low life scum with no money. City govt has deep pockets. fuck that. his living relatives should be made to work off the damages. Your not suppose to drink the bong water bud. What, you disagree, Johnny Reb? It should happen. Not would. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:01:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol crackers be so ignorant "Hey Jenkins, your son owes like 50k in property damages. If you don't pay, your credit is fucked" "WTF is credit fool?" Yeah, I'm sure the perp's family is really sorry and is going to work his low-end jobs for thirty years to make sure the victims get restitution. Seriously. White people think this. Don't wonder why the country is in the toilet. Seriously. Perp's family gonna pay. LOL and Romney's gonna beat Obama. Can't make this shit up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? lol crackers be so ignorant "Hey Jenkins, your son owes like 50k in property damages. If you don't pay, your credit is fucked" "WTF is credit fool?" Yeah, I'm sure the perp's family is really sorry and is going to work his low-end jobs for thirty years to make sure the victims get restitution. Seriously. White people think this. Don't wonder why the country is in the toilet. Seriously. Perp's family gonna pay. LOL and Romney's gonna beat Obama. Can't make this shit up.  Ahhhhhhh so true......they don't think or act like normal people do  |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:09:05 AM EDT
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I wish we could make the perp work on making big rocks into little rocks to pay for his crimes.
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:11:42 AM EDT
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who steals a pt cruiser? Death wish. Regardless of stopsticks.
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:11:47 AM EDT
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fuck that. his living relatives should be made to work off the damages. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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uh why wouldn't the perp be liable? does "good faith" mean anything to you? Perp's dead, and probably some low life scum with no money. City govt has deep pockets. fuck that. his living relatives should be made to work off the damages. This is retarded as fuck...
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:15:13 AM EDT
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I wonder what the nice upstanding young boy who stole that car could have done to prevent that?
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:21:58 AM EDT
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Liable for what? Why blame the police for the actions of fleeing felons?
Of course they can be sued....that's why they have insurance companies. http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=1018&issue_id=102006 |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:26:51 AM EDT
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As a LE helicopter pilot, I can assure you that we (the air unit) lose people all the time. It should never be assumed that just because a helicopter is involved in the chase, that there's no way the bad guy will get away. It's just not that easy. Cops are in a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation. Should they just let a car-jacking suspect get away? What if the suspect also shot and killed someone--how about then? It's a question each agency asks themselves when they write, or re-write their pursuit policy. Ours changed years ago when a chase of a stolen vehicle resulted in the death of a teenager who was riding in a van who just happened to be in town for a little league game. After that, violent forcible felonies only. The bad part about a car chase is that it nearly always ends in a crash--either the suspect, the cops, innocent motorists, or all three. I don't know what the answer is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is kind of a tough one. On one hand, can the cops really be expected to foresee this kind of thing? What exactly does their policy say on the deployment of stop sticks? On the other hand, the one witness did have a point. The cops probably could have backed off sooner, and let the bird work. The helicopter would have had no problem tracking these guys, they were in a fucking wood grained PT Cruiser for crying out lout. As a LE helicopter pilot, I can assure you that we (the air unit) lose people all the time. It should never be assumed that just because a helicopter is involved in the chase, that there's no way the bad guy will get away. It's just not that easy. Cops are in a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation. Should they just let a car-jacking suspect get away? What if the suspect also shot and killed someone--how about then? It's a question each agency asks themselves when they write, or re-write their pursuit policy. Ours changed years ago when a chase of a stolen vehicle resulted in the death of a teenager who was riding in a van who just happened to be in town for a little league game. After that, violent forcible felonies only. The bad part about a car chase is that it nearly always ends in a crash--either the suspect, the cops, innocent motorists, or all three. I don't know what the answer is. So, uh, what's a good way to avoid being spotted/tracked by a helicopter? I mean, other than obeying the law. Asking for a friend, of course... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:33:17 AM EDT
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Can we hold you liable for all these threads?
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:38:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's been shown time and time again that cops are never liable for their actions. I await the blue line brigade to crash in. I'm 99% positive that you're not held liable for bullshit. See how that works? |
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