Dragging an animal carcass behind a jeep to lure the lion out seems to indicate that someone had a damn good idea of where the property boundary was. Again, I will withhold judgement but if he was present for that then he's culpable.

It wasn't this guys first rodeo.

+1

 

The classic GD double standard is alive and well with most in this thread..

Like the jackass that mowed the ducklings up. That kind of cruelty is twisted. Luring Cecil off the preserve and removing his tracking device just to shoot is not sporting. I wonder if he'll get fed to the lions?

I think the issue is that the dentist is being tried in the media without any hard evidence as to what he did or did not know, or for that matter, whether anything illegal occurred at all.

That will, for the most part, fall on deaf ears here.

It has so far . . .

He has been in Zimbabwe hunting before, there is a lot of with this guy.

Well, the world could use a few more lions and a few less people.

I'll answer.  It's legal to bait dangerous game in most cases.  Basically, you spread their guts out, spread their blood out, then hang the carcass.  Dragging a carcass behind a vehicle is not odd or triggering behavior.

As for "property boundary", I don't know what the actually enclosure was, if there even was one.

He's a fucking poacher, who got caught, AGAIN.  

He has his poaching enablers here making excuses.

I bet most hunters here in the US could be labeled "poachers" if we stretched the definition just a tiny little bit.

How so?

I know a fair number of people who have taken a lion. Not my cup of tea for sure, but whatever. My only question is - why a bow? I get the sport, but that part seemed unnecessary. The last guy I know to take one used a 375 h&h.

I'll never get the point of killing an animal for sport with no utility to gain from it.  Want food? Hunt away, there's a bambi around every corner, but if we're showing that man has created ways to kill things effectively, why even bother convincing yourself its 'sport'?  Why not use a JDAM on it right? All the people are concerned about is kill+memory(in the form of some body part as a trophy).  

Oh and lol at the abortion fanatics who inject themselves in an unrelated thread for attention when they can just post a new thread.

I knew Cecil personally for all his life. He was a animaltarian who would only eat vegetables. He was kind and donated his entire yearly salary to other less fortunate animals many times in his short life.
He was an inspiration to many of the gazelles, dik dik's and other herbivores. The were always happy to invite him over for dinner.
Cecil will truly be missed by the many who knew him. RIP Cecil, too bad your mamma gave you such a faggoty name.

I am having as many abortions as I can, what more do you want from me?

I like to hunt because I find it difficult and there is something primal and basic about it that I enjoy. Hunting with a bow is even harder. Its like asking why I enjoy shooting, hard to say why but I just do.

I don't bait though...

You need one more smilie in there.

You go first hero.

Yep, he's a convicted felon due to his poaching of a bear 10 years ago. He knew what he was doing. He should have been dotting every "i" and crossing every "t" and checking it twice and asking questions if there was even the slightest bit of doubt as to what was happening. Good luck trying to feign ignorance this time. He's a big boy with plenty of hunts under his belt. He knew. What a lying sack of shit douchebag.

He has pulled some devious bear hunting crap in northern Wi

Hillarys emails, the IRS targeting the tea party, obama and kerry bowing to iran and planned parenthood selling aborted fetus tissue.  They had to find SOMETHING to distract us from it all.

This  

Figured you for a master of it.

If only the two of you could read through your own emotional drivel.

Not since your mother started giving me a hand.

Did you dig her up

 
I'm gonna pitch that to my friend at Disney.


I'm envisioning a straight rip off of Avatar, but its a tribe of gophers who unite with a tribe of yotes to defend their home from evil frackers.


I'm gonna make a billion dollars.  

The poacher dindu!

Was it poached?
Can you clearly define what that word means and what actions performed by the hunters would classify this hunt as "poaching"?

This is from Lionaid.org. Some of it out of date but much of it is relevant.

1. It is completely legal to bait lions in Zimbabwe – it is standard practice. Cecil was shot with a bow and arrow from a blind. That is also legal. Cecil was shot badly and was only put out of his misery 40 hours later. That is what happens regularly in trophy hunting.

2. Cecil was shot outside a national park in a private hunting concession. That is also legal. It is not illegal to kill radiocollared lions.

3. But Cecil was shot in an area not assigned a lion quota. Supposedly the bait was set for a leopard and then Cecil came along. The professional hunter, Theo Bronkhorst told his client to shoot the lion, and then the hunt became illegal.

4. The professional hunter then allegedly attempted to destroy the radiocollar to hide the evidence. Allegedly the client was “furious” when he found that the lion was radiocollared. Allegedly, when a professional hunter engages a client in an area without lion quota, the lion will be listed as hunted in an area that does have quota. This could have been standard practice, but unfortunately Cecil was a well-known lion.

5. The professional hunter and the concession owner are now being investigated. Both were allegedly arrested and released on bail. Bronkhorst has been suspended from the Zimbabwe Professional Hunters and Guides Association. He will likely abscond rather than face trial unless he is confident of the possible bribes he has paid to an entirely corrupt judiciary. The concession owner is allegedly related to the Zimbabwe Minister of Transport and will therefore be immune from prosecution.

6. There seems now to be a desire to find the “client” who shot Cecil. Some say he is Spanish, some say he is American. Whatever his nationality, this man cannot really be prosecuted. A client does what his professional hunter tells him. A client usually has no idea about the laws and regulations of the country he is hunting in – he just buys a safari and then places himself in the hands of his professional hunter guide. Finding the client could be interesting to let him tell his side of the story, but in terms of legal prosecution this person is hardly important.

7. The hunt is also on to find what remains of Cecil. That is strange, as a hunting trophy should be immediately identifiable?

8. There are calls to prevent the import of Cecil’s trophy into the EU. That will be difficult unless the name of the client gets known. Also, it is almost impossible to distinguish a single lion trophy from all the others yearly imported into the EU from Zimbabwe.

http://www.lionaid.org/news

Poaching has traditionally been defined as the illegal hunting, killing, or capturing of wild animals.

Stop liking what I don't like!  

Let's crucify the dentist based on accusations and horseshit.  

GD is the best example of why the Founders of this country abhorred a democracy and the mob mentality.

So, what part of their hunt was illegal?

that clears up a lot of things

we already have a thread for that. . . specifically relating the two.

Go shit-post in there.

Is it legal to go into a nature preserve and bait an animal out?

While I don't believe in purging history, or censorship, I can think of lots of reasons that SOB should be purged from it, but killing things isn't one of them.  

Being a truly Progressive President, being elected to office by Progressives, and infecting America with the the idea of elitism and "government is the answer" is, in my opinion, a MUCH better reason to purge that asshole form history.

Really.

Are you a PETA-phile?
Your above comment sure seems like it.
Your picture and comment in it says a lot about you.

Do you live at the DU?

We Cry Over the Death of Cecil the Lion, But Shrug Off Planned Parenthood?

why do people keep making this comparison?

They clearly broke the law while partaking in the very despicable practice of trophy hunting, which at its core is nothing but malicious and destructive behavior. People like this should be burned from the earth for their wanton disregard for habitat, and lack of general decency as human beings.

That's a good question.  Did we all of a sudden lose our capability to bitch about more than one thing at a time?  GD would come to a screeching halt if this were the case.

It was not entirely clear whether baiting is allowed by Zimbabwe law. Fundira said the practice was both unethical and illegal. The conservation group Lion Aid says it is unethical but not expressly forbidden.

 
I have no friggin idea. Its like going into the planned parenthood thread and posting "OMG ISIS, WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS BS". Depraved behavior from human beings should be punished regardless.