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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:15:06 PM EDT
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Wish the same type of anger I am seeing on the internet over this old man lion was also applied to the butchers at Planned Parenthood...what a fucked up world we live in... #FetusLivesMatter 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:22:40 PM EDT
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The dentist is toast. The artical I read on this on Yahoo had the name and address of his practice.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:33:21 PM EDT
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Yup...practice is done...
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:44:30 PM EDT
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"American dentist who paid $55,000 to kill Africa's most famous lion~"If that line about the lion being at all famous is true, this guy made an incredibly stupid move or is getting exactly what he wanted. Do not kill animals with names would be a pretty good and very basic rule to follow. esp if they are at all known or liked by a large group of people or could be liked by a larger group of people posthumously. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:46:54 PM EDT
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Maybe i'm just a hick.. but I always felt that hunting for anything other than food was retarded. Who gives a fuck if you can hit a lion from 300 yards with your rifle.. Just a waste.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:03:41 PM EDT
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If the story is true....and that is a big IF because I have a hard time believing any story that originates in Africa, then he should face the penalties. If that leads to him getting cavities filled in some Zimbabwe prison, oh well. That is, if the doc was knowingly involved in the shady activity of luring it off of the preserve. If the guides did it for a bigger paycheck, then punish them.
People who are against trophy hunting, or hunting anything for any purpose other than to eat it, are naive and ignorant as the day is long. Predators and nuisance animals should be exterminated when necessary with extreme prejudice. End of story. Trophy hunts and guided hunts bring in some of the largest sums of money for wildlife conservation. I don't know how to break it to you, but your $16 fishing license and $2 WWF sticker aren't paying to have elk reintroduced around the country or streams and lakes stocked regularly. The same is true for guided safaris in Africa. Hunters are on waiting lists for years and pay a small fortune for a tag and permit to hunt exotic animals. The money they spend goes towards preservation of the land and wildlife so that they can continue to sell tags and permits. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:14:40 PM EDT
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Agreed and thank you for posting a sane reply in this thread. Most are either "Oh my god he's a murderer!!!" or "You're a PETAbot" If this guy violated the law punish him to the fullest extent of the law. If you don't like Trophy hunting, don't do it. Whether you want to admit it or not it does contribute to the survival of some species when mananged well and done legally. For the really anti's all hunting is murder crowd, you really don't want to know about me and hunting coyotes.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree the details of this whole thing sound a bit messed up but who knows . What little I hunt and fish is for the table but 1) I have no problem with trophy hunting in general if rules and regulations are followed. 2) much of the wildlife preservation in this country is bankrolled directly through fees and taxes on sportsmen 3) Generally all preservation in Africa and a great deal of general tourism dollars are generated by foreign sportsmen Agreed and thank you for posting a sane reply in this thread. Most are either "Oh my god he's a murderer!!!" or "You're a PETAbot" If this guy violated the law punish him to the fullest extent of the law. If you don't like Trophy hunting, don't do it. Whether you want to admit it or not it does contribute to the survival of some species when mananged well and done legally. For the really anti's all hunting is murder crowd, you really don't want to know about me and hunting coyotes. You apologists need to learn a book. Lets review: "I get off shooting things and not following permit procedures" - verified by past run ins "I googled 'shoot a lion' and this Nigerian prince said '$55,000 American moneys" "Lol i did 5 minutes of research on the hunt and 20 hours on visas and airplane tickets" "lol I shot a lion right where the nigerian princes told me it'd be! Then I had to shoot it, with a gun because my woowoo Injun bow skills sucked!" "Then I skinned it and wagged my penis around, cuz lol, I'm a hunter that killed a lion! Just like in the comic books!" "What do you mean those nigerian princes were phonies? Oh shit, time to be a man and run away!" Yeah, I bet this guy did jack all of shit research into his "Big bad african game hunt". Local gun shop owner does legitimate game hunts and shooting anything other than what is approved, after doing a few minutes of research is strictly a no-no. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:49:14 PM EDT
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You apologists need to learn a book. Lets review: "I get off shooting things and not following permit procedures" - verified by past run ins "I googled 'shoot a lion' and this Nigerian prince said '$55,000 American moneys" "Lol i did 5 minutes of research on the hunt and 20 hours on visas and airplane tickets" "lol I shot a lion right where the nigerian princes told me it'd be! Then I had to shoot it, with a gun because my woowoo Injun bow skills sucked!" "Then I skinned it and wagged my penis around, cuz lol, I'm a hunter that killed a lion! Just like in the comic books!" "What do you mean those nigerian princes were phonies? Oh shit, time to be a man and run away!" Yeah, I bet this guy did jack all of shit research into his "Big bad african game hunt". Local gun shop owner does legitimate game hunts and shooting anything other than what is approved, after doing a few minutes of research is strictly a no-no. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree the details of this whole thing sound a bit messed up but who knows . What little I hunt and fish is for the table but 1) I have no problem with trophy hunting in general if rules and regulations are followed. 2) much of the wildlife preservation in this country is bankrolled directly through fees and taxes on sportsmen 3) Generally all preservation in Africa and a great deal of general tourism dollars are generated by foreign sportsmen Agreed and thank you for posting a sane reply in this thread. Most are either "Oh my god he's a murderer!!!" or "You're a PETAbot" If this guy violated the law punish him to the fullest extent of the law. If you don't like Trophy hunting, don't do it. Whether you want to admit it or not it does contribute to the survival of some species when mananged well and done legally. For the really anti's all hunting is murder crowd, you really don't want to know about me and hunting coyotes. You apologists need to learn a book. Lets review: "I get off shooting things and not following permit procedures" - verified by past run ins "I googled 'shoot a lion' and this Nigerian prince said '$55,000 American moneys" "Lol i did 5 minutes of research on the hunt and 20 hours on visas and airplane tickets" "lol I shot a lion right where the nigerian princes told me it'd be! Then I had to shoot it, with a gun because my woowoo Injun bow skills sucked!" "Then I skinned it and wagged my penis around, cuz lol, I'm a hunter that killed a lion! Just like in the comic books!" "What do you mean those nigerian princes were phonies? Oh shit, time to be a man and run away!" Yeah, I bet this guy did jack all of shit research into his "Big bad african game hunt". Local gun shop owner does legitimate game hunts and shooting anything other than what is approved, after doing a few minutes of research is strictly a no-no. Pretty much sums up all trophy hunters to me... 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:57:49 PM EDT
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Sounds like the international community is going to love him tenderly. The international community can't do shit... The international community is a bunch of communists/ socialists. They do as they please. If there's not something on the books to get him on, they'll make something up on the spot and ex post facto it. Communists. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:59:03 PM EDT
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Is Cecil a common name in Zimbabwe? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Kinda rhymes with Rhodes. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:59:12 PM EDT
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Humans have been hunting African game since literally the beginning of man. People need to quit crying about shit like this.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not "hunting", and the worse PR it gets the better. If you shoot it you should have to eat it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well that is some great PR for hunters.  That's not "hunting", and the worse PR it gets the better. If you shoot it you should have to eat it. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:02:28 PM EDT
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Resident RINO responds to animal crisis.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:05:20 PM EDT
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It's just a lion. And fuck, it was an old one. It'd been worse if he'd killed one in its prime. I think he did it a favor.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:12:22 PM EDT
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It's just a lion. And fuck, it was an old one. It'd been worse if he'd killed one in its prime. I think he did it a favor. The reports have always mentioned that he recently sired a litter, so he was still holding down the top rung in the pride. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:19:25 PM EDT
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The reports have always mentioned that he recently sired a litter, so he was still holding down the top rung in the pride. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's just a lion. And fuck, it was an old one. It'd been worse if he'd killed one in its prime. I think he did it a favor. The reports have always mentioned that he recently sired a litter, so he was still holding down the top rung in the pride. Of course they do. I'm sure most people in Zimbabwe are really worried about a dead cat. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:25:37 PM EDT
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Of course they do. I'm sure most people in Zimbabwe are really worried about a dead cat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's just a lion. And fuck, it was an old one. It'd been worse if he'd killed one in its prime. I think he did it a favor. The reports have always mentioned that he recently sired a litter, so he was still holding down the top rung in the pride. Of course they do. I'm sure most people in Zimbabwe are really worried about a dead cat. Shit, I don't know. Maybe it's bullshit, maybe it isn't. The damn thing lived in a nature preserve and had a name, so somebody gave a shit. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:29:51 PM EDT
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that is why i buy my meat from the grocery store, they make it there and no animals are harmed
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:31:42 PM EDT
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Shit, I don't know. Maybe it's bullshit, maybe it isn't. The damn thing lived in a nature preserve and had a name, so somebody gave a shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's just a lion. And fuck, it was an old one. It'd been worse if he'd killed one in its prime. I think he did it a favor. The reports have always mentioned that he recently sired a litter, so he was still holding down the top rung in the pride. Of course they do. I'm sure most people in Zimbabwe are really worried about a dead cat. Shit, I don't know. Maybe it's bullshit, maybe it isn't. The damn thing lived in a nature preserve and had a name, so somebody gave a shit. Who knows. I'll bet the people of Zimbabwe didn't name him "Cecil" though. These are first world problems in a third world country. Only we care about it. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:32:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cecil was lured off the preserve and had his collar removed. Hope they nail the fuckers (guides who did it) to the wall |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:50:47 PM EDT
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Oh and Zimbabwe strikes again. Grease enough palms and you could probably kill anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cecil was lured off the preserve and had his collar removed. Hope they nail the fuckers (guides who did it) to the wall Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:55:03 PM EDT
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Wait until he gets raped in a Zimbabwe prison
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:04:35 AM EDT
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Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cecil was lured off the preserve and had his collar removed. Hope they nail the fuckers (guides who did it) to the wall Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. What does feral cat taste like? We just throw them in the ditch down the road. How about opossum or coon? Surely coyote is pretty good, right? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:08:08 AM EDT
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Maybe i'm just a hick.. but I always felt that hunting for anything other than food was retarded. Who gives a fuck if you can hit a lion from 300 yards with your rifle.. Just a waste. You know how I know you know absolutely nothing about hunting lions in Africa? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:14:19 AM EDT
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Wish the same type of anger I am seeing on the internet over this old man lion was also applied to the butchers at Planned Parenthood...what a fucked up world we live in... This. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:17:49 AM EDT
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Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cecil was lured off the preserve and had his collar removed. Hope they nail the fuckers (guides who did it) to the wall Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. That's nice dear. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:30:59 AM EDT
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If the guy broke a law, prove it in court and punish him according to the law, otherwise.....
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:34:04 AM EDT
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Hmm, DrSalee isn't here. I'll bet HE did it! Believe me........It damn well could have been! |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:34:28 AM EDT
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Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cecil was lured off the preserve and had his collar removed. Hope they nail the fuckers (guides who did it) to the wall Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. What's skunk taste like? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:36:27 AM EDT
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Dr salee? Paging toothy Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ha Ha ! I would be famous......BUT out of business. This is going to kill this poor guys practice |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:38:06 AM EDT
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Well without his name tag he was just another lion
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:43:52 AM EDT
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Maybe i'm just a hick.. but I always felt that hunting for anything other than food was retarded. Who gives a fuck if you can hit a lion from 300 yards with your rifle.. Just a waste. I kill lots of animals I have no intention on eating. Squirrels, coons, snakes, rabbits, gophers, rats, mice, wild pigs, coyotes.....I think that is all. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:51:10 AM EDT
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Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cecil was lured off the preserve and had his collar removed. Hope they nail the fuckers (guides who did it) to the wall Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. Really? You ate every mouse you trapped...every rat...every vermin animal? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:54:45 AM EDT
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I kill lots of animals I have no intention on eating. Squirrels, coons, snakes, rabbits, gophers, rats, mice, wild pigs, coyotes.....I think that is all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe i'm just a hick.. but I always felt that hunting for anything other than food was retarded. Who gives a fuck if you can hit a lion from 300 yards with your rifle.. Just a waste. I kill lots of animals I have no intention on eating. Squirrels, coons, snakes, rabbits, gophers, rats, mice, wild pigs, coyotes.....I think that is all. I got dared into eating jack rabbit lung once. Shot it from the rear passenger side of a Ford Explorer with a friend's glock. It was chewy and kind of bloody/copper tasting. Never had squirrel, though I hear it tastes pretty good. Rabbits are generally pretty good. I like them anyways. Only ever tried wild pig once. It was good, but it was tiny. Whole pig fit in the oven with lots of room left over. I have no intention of trying any of the other stuff on your list. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:06:14 AM EDT
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The libs of arfcom are showing again.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:09:15 AM EDT
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In to see the Disney wackos lose their minds. Entertaining is it not? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:14:32 AM EDT
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3177303/PICTURED-American-dentist-passion-hunting-killed-Cecil-Lion-bow-arrow-Zimbabwe.html People are really laying into this dentist. Glad he's getting shit. Would love to hear he gets to spend time in an Zimbabwean jail Gotta love arfcom...."FREEDUM!!1!!! MOLON-LABE!1!!!1" till your ox is gored....then it's HANG HIM!1!!!>>>GUILTY TILL PROVEN INNOCENT!!!!!1!" buncha schizophrenics hanging out here.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:19:36 AM EDT
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Maybe i'm just a hick.. but I always felt that hunting for anything other than food was retarded. Who gives a fuck if you can hit a lion from 300 yards with your rifle.. Just a waste. Well..."hick" animals killed by hunters in Africa are usually used for food....usually the village closest to where the animal was taken. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:23:38 AM EDT
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I don't see the point in hunting if you aren't going to eat the animal... especially a beautiful adult male lion if you can even call shooting lions 'hunting'. hope the fkr does time if in fact he poached it. and yes, I hunt elk, deer and all kinds of birds / waterfowl. Ever shot a prairie dog? Swatted a fly? Squished a cockroach? Caught a juicy mouse in a trap? Eat them? If not, why not? 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:25:14 AM EDT
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Am I the only one who doesn't give a Fuck about a stupid famous lion?
I see this the same as the news stories about people shooting albino deer. Whoopty Fucking do. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:26:26 AM EDT
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I don't give a shit how famous or old or "beautiful" (lol) it was.... If he hunted it illegally (poaching) he needs to be punished. If the guides were responsible (without his knowledge) the guides need to be punished. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a pretty liberal stance on this, unfortunately. You lure a famous, old, protected animal off of its natural habitat, and kill it for a trophy. The dentist isn't the one responsible unless he was in on the plot. The cocksuckers that were in on the plot, need fucked. I don't give a shit how famous or old or "beautiful" (lol) it was.... If he hunted it illegally (poaching) he needs to be punished. If the guides were responsible (without his knowledge) the guides need to be punished. Don't fall for the lies and hyperbole in the articles. It would have been illegal to kill it inside the preserve. It was outside the preserve, therefore not illegal. The rest is just silly emotional hyperbole--and probably not true. 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:28:25 AM EDT
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The story said they dragged an animal carcass behind their vehicle to lure Cecil off the preserve, I'm pretty sure this wasn't the safari guide's first rodeo. Nor was the dentist some kind of greenhorn that didn't know how hunts in Africa took place. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a pretty liberal stance on this, unfortunately. You lure a famous, old, protected animal off of its natural habitat, and kill it for a trophy. The dentist isn't the one responsible unless he was in on the plot. The cocksuckers that were in on the plot, need fucked. The story said they dragged an animal carcass behind their vehicle to lure Cecil off the preserve, I'm pretty sure this wasn't the safari guide's first rodeo. Nor was the dentist some kind of greenhorn that didn't know how hunts in Africa took place. If that is true, how would "they" know? Is it a fact the lion was outside the preserve? That doesn't seem to be in doubt. Outside the preserve means it was a legal kill. Also, look at the pics of this "magnificent beast" prior to his demise--see a collar? Me neither. 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:31:09 AM EDT
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Cecil was lured off the preserve and had his collar removed. Hope they nail the fuckers (guides who did it) to the wall Eat what you kill, and only kill what you eat is the rule I've lived by all my years, as well as my father and grandfather. Yea, and you don't need a gun that shoots holds more than 5 rounds, or has all those evil features either. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:35:27 AM EDT
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Another long time hunter here....My sentiments as well. Not trying to stir things up, but I also have a problem with those who hunt over bait. I know it's legal in some areas, but, in my opinion, it is ethically questionable behavior and takes the "sport" out of "sporting chance". Londo now steps down from his soapbox. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see the point in hunting if you aren't going to eat the animal... especially a beautiful adult male lion if you can even call shooting lions 'hunting'. hope the fkr does time if in fact he poached it. and yes, I hunt elk, deer and all kinds of birds / waterfowl. Not trying to stir things up, but I also have a problem with those who hunt over bait. I know it's legal in some areas, but, in my opinion, it is ethically questionable behavior and takes the "sport" out of "sporting chance". Londo now steps down from his soapbox. For the types of hunting, and the areas, where baiting is used, it's used because there is no other way to kill the game. It's really just that simple. You can go wherever you want and "John Kerry" it--but you won't have success. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:57:50 AM EDT
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Amazing. So hang the dentist even if he wasn't in on the plot?
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Posted: 7/29/2015 1:58:40 AM EDT
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"American dentist who paid $55,000 to kill Africa's most famous lion~"If that line about the lion being at all famous is true, this guy made an incredibly stupid move or is getting exactly what he wanted. Do not kill animals with names would be a pretty good and very basic rule to follow. esp if they are at all known or liked by a large group of people or could be liked by a larger group of people posthumously. Especially ones that will walk up and pose for cameras. If you're going to shoot a lion, it needs to be some no-name antisocial animal. The video of the photographers snapping shots of this "stealthy beast" doesn't do much for the good dentist's street cred as a great white hunter. Besides, do you really want show the picture of you over "Cecil's" corpse? "...and here's one of me and the body of a lion named "Cecil" . What's next on his list, a viscous baby harp seal named "Larry"? . |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 2:00:00 AM EDT
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Lion hunting is legal in Zimbabwe. They are not protected from what I have read. Sir! You are not being very considerate of those whose feeeeeeelings are at stake. Be gone with your facts! 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 2:01:55 AM EDT
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Is Cecil a common name in Zimbabwe? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It is now. It interprets as "lefty cause of the day" from their native tongue.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 2:04:58 AM EDT
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That's what I've been saying all day. I bet half of the people who are outraged over this have no problem with chopping up and sucking out a human fetus. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wish the same type of anger I am seeing on the internet over this old man lion was also applied to the butchers at Planned Parenthood...what a fucked up world we live in... That's what I've been saying all day. I bet half of the people who are outraged over this have no problem with chopping up and sucking out a human fetus. It all goes together. Liberalism is a mental disorder and it consistently manifests itself in the manner you describe. Obviously nothing is 100%, of course.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 2:06:11 AM EDT
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"American dentist who paid $55,000 to kill Africa's most famous lion~"If that line about the lion being at all famous is true, this guy made an incredibly stupid move or is getting exactly what he wanted. Do not kill animals with names would be a pretty good and very basic rule to follow. esp if they are at all known or liked by a large group of people or could be liked by a larger group of people posthumously. Maybe they will bronze poor Cecil's birth certificate and put it on a monument next to Obama's.
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