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Posted: 7/29/2015 2:54:19 PM EDT
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what I meant was the physical laws of nature act as an arbiter of sorts in the wars of men whoever survives is crowned by nature What laws of nature are exercised in war? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 2:55:20 PM EDT
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what I meant was the physical laws of nature act as an arbiter of sorts in the wars of men whoever survives is crowned by nature What laws of nature are exercised in war? all of them? physics, biology, chemistry, etc. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:04:07 PM EDT
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Its not a Muslim practice, its a local cultural practice in places like Yemen, eastern and central Africa, that pre-date Islam. Different levels are practiced. The most common is the removal of the clitoris, which is done with either a pair of scissors or a knife, without any anesthesia or local pain killers, when the girl is still pre-pubescent. The idea is to reduce female pleasure in sex, to dissuade them from committing adultery or fornication. In a few cultures its very extreme, the labia minora are removed and sometimes sewn shut, leaving just enough room for urination, and then is opened up when married. This method leads to considerable risk of infection, pain, and issues with childbirth. Strangely, its largely the older women in the culture that push for it, not the men. A mother that refuses to get it done to her daughter will be ostracized by the female community and the girl will not be marriageable. quasi SFW liveleak video, you don't actually see anything sexual or blood, but its disturbing to watch My stomach turned watching that. I clicked out of it when the girl started screaming in pain. This whole female circumcision thing is an archeological custom that needs to be eradicated as far as I'm concerned. If someone tried to do that to my daughter, well it wouldn't end well for one of us. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that people en masse still do this! |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:08:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:11:23 PM EDT
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all of them? physics, biology, chemistry, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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what I meant was the physical laws of nature act as an arbiter of sorts in the wars of men whoever survives is crowned by nature What laws of nature are exercised in war? all of them? physics, biology, chemistry, etc. Nevermind. I dont enjoy speaking in riddles. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:17:28 PM EDT
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"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) "After other Khudai Khidmatgar leaders were arrested, a large crowd of the group gathered at the Qissa Khwani bazaar. As British and Indian troops moved into the bazaar, the crowd was loud and stones were thrown. A British Army dispatch rider was killed and his body burned.Two British armored cars drove into the square at high speed, killing several people. It is claimed that the crowd continued their commitment to non-violence, offering to disperse if they could gather their dead and injured, and if British troops left the square. The British troops refused to leave, so the protesters remained with the dead and injured.At that point, the British ordered troops to open fire with machine guns on the unarmed crowd. The Khudai Khidmatgar members willingly faced bullets, responding without violence. Instead, many members repeated 'God is Great' and clutched the Qur'an as they went to their death." Qissa Khwani Bazaar massacre You forfeit all morality when shit like this happens, and this stuff was the norm throughout British India. Other fun moment of British colonial rule were the Opium War, the Great Game in Afghanistan, the concentration camps used to house the noncombatant family members of Boer farmers during the Boer War. The list of colonial excesses, mismanaged, and tyranny outweigh any positive benefit colonialization had on local communities. Look at the injustices that occurred here in America when we were still possessions of the Crown, and that was nothing compared to what the British did elsewhere. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:18:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said, the two are not equivalent at all. I am a "victim" of "male genital mutilation", and I have no problem with it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How in the hell did someone come up with the idea that female and male genital mutilation was a good idea. Like I said, the two are not equivalent at all. I am a "victim" of "male genital mutilation", and I have no problem with it. This^ Makes me last longer.  |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:22:01 PM EDT
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This^ Makes me last longer.
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How in the hell did someone come up with the idea that female and male genital mutilation was a good idea. Like I said, the two are not equivalent at all. I am a "victim" of "male genital mutilation", and I have no problem with it. This^ Makes me last longer.
How do you know? Personally, I'm glad that that part of my body that I most like having licked wasn't removed when I was an infant. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:30:50 PM EDT
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Have you seen India Africa lately? Would you judge the internal society of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh as a success? How about the former colonies of Africa? Or the Middle East? Or Asia? Or the Americas? They are nightmares directly because of European imperialism, which sought profits and power over any social benefits to the locals. Most European countries didn't even bother with an social programs for the locals until the very end of their imperialistic empire, when it was too late. They often redrew national borders contrary to tribal or historical demarcations, their entire rule was based on suppressing internal conflict through use of superior military force and by playing divide and conquer among local tribes, often lifting up minority tribal groups loyal to European rule, who used their power to suppress their tribal enemies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut Have you seen India Africa lately? Would you judge the internal society of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh as a success? How about the former colonies of Africa? Or the Middle East? Or Asia? Or the Americas? They are nightmares directly because of European imperialism, which sought profits and power over any social benefits to the locals. Most European countries didn't even bother with an social programs for the locals until the very end of their imperialistic empire, when it was too late. They often redrew national borders contrary to tribal or historical demarcations, their entire rule was based on suppressing internal conflict through use of superior military force and by playing divide and conquer among local tribes, often lifting up minority tribal groups loyal to European rule, who used their power to suppress their tribal enemies. White man's fault. Got it. You must have gotten an A in your community college anthropology class. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:33:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you know? Personally, I'm glad that that part of my body that I most like having licked wasn't removed when I was an infant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How in the hell did someone come up with the idea that female and male genital mutilation was a good idea. Like I said, the two are not equivalent at all. I am a "victim" of "male genital mutilation", and I have no problem with it. This^ Makes me last longer. How do you know? Personally, I'm glad that that part of my body that I most like having licked wasn't removed when I was an infant. I don't, just going by what medical science tells me. For all I know I could be missing out but I very much enjoy having mine licked without the extra curtain.  |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:36:10 PM EDT
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I don't, just going by what medical science tells me. For all I know I could be missing out but I very much enjoy having mine licked without the extra curtain.
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How do you know? Personally, I'm glad that that part of my body that I most like having licked wasn't removed when I was an infant. I don't, just going by what medical science tells me. For all I know I could be missing out but I very much enjoy having mine licked without the extra curtain.
/shrug All I know is that I would never consent to having it removed. I do see circumcision as mutilation, though comparing it to FGM is dishonest. That's like saying that removing someone pinky finger is the same as removing their arm from the elbow down. Yes, both things are assault, both inflict pain, and both are pretty dumb to do for religious and cultural reasons... but they just aren't comparable in scale. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:36:33 PM EDT
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White man's fault. Got it. You must have gotten an A in your community college anthropology class. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut Have you seen India Africa lately? Would you judge the internal society of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh as a success? How about the former colonies of Africa? Or the Middle East? Or Asia? Or the Americas? They are nightmares directly because of European imperialism, which sought profits and power over any social benefits to the locals. Most European countries didn't even bother with an social programs for the locals until the very end of their imperialistic empire, when it was too late. They often redrew national borders contrary to tribal or historical demarcations, their entire rule was based on suppressing internal conflict through use of superior military force and by playing divide and conquer among local tribes, often lifting up minority tribal groups loyal to European rule, who used their power to suppress their tribal enemies. White man's fault. Got it. You must have gotten an A in your community college anthropology class. It's very much like a religion. Add sociology, and you definitely have a religion. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:41:54 PM EDT
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It's a method of exercising control over women, pure and simple. Oddly enough, older women are the ones who generally perform the mutilation. The men have succeeded in making it a cultural rite of passage, and the women join right in.  )The women who go along with it have been brainwashed. Utterly. And they have been under control far longer than the girls they perpetuate this misery upon. I suspect that the scale of violence increases exponentially against females in this culture if they are perceived as not being "under control" ie. circumcised, I have not researched the matter, but if a culture is willing to kill a woman for a relatively slight offense, these women may be justifying female circumcision out of a desire to protect uncircumcised girls from worse. I simply cannot imagine being willing to do this to another female unless I thought would help save her from her own culture down the road. Given that people are generally sheep, they do what they are used to and need to be persuaded on the advantages of changing. The means of persuasion are limited in such a closed society. I don't see it changing anytime in this decade or even century, and certainly not without the help of armed intervention. I would not be willing to see the US commit to armed intervention to change a culture overseas. However, I can and will commit all the resources I have at my disposal to prevent its spread in my own country. Anyone who would commit such barbarism against an innocent child deserves at the very least life in prison. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:43:56 PM EDT
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My suggestion is simple. Immediate execution for anyone involved in FGM. The parents, the doctor(s), any potential suitor... You mutilate a little girl, you get a bullet in the head within 36 hours of conviction. And then you're skyburied with a couple carcasses of animals that are culturally offensive to you. I think I like you. 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:49:16 PM EDT
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White man's fault. Got it. You must have gotten an A in your community college anthropology class. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut Have you seen India Africa lately? Would you judge the internal society of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh as a success? How about the former colonies of Africa? Or the Middle East? Or Asia? Or the Americas? They are nightmares directly because of European imperialism, which sought profits and power over any social benefits to the locals. Most European countries didn't even bother with an social programs for the locals until the very end of their imperialistic empire, when it was too late. They often redrew national borders contrary to tribal or historical demarcations, their entire rule was based on suppressing internal conflict through use of superior military force and by playing divide and conquer among local tribes, often lifting up minority tribal groups loyal to European rule, who used their power to suppress their tribal enemies. White man's fault. Got it. You must have gotten an A in your community college anthropology class. You never read the Declaration of Independence? Because I'm not saying anything the Founding Fathers didn't. European nations of the 15th-20th century don't represent the total accomplishments and history of "white men." And white Europeans aren't the only ones who did it. For instance, Arabs fucked over North African cultures. Han Chinese fucked over other Asian cultures. This isn't about race or color of skin, its about tyranny and parasitic subjugation of peoples to rape their cultures just to make money. For those that do that, its the obligation of every man to fight back. Much of the issues of the "third world" today can be directly traced back to colonial occupation by either Great Britain, France, Germany, Spain, the Dutch, or Portuguese. Now that these countries are all shadows of their former selves, mainly socialist welfare states, doesn't meant that between 1600-1945, they controlled the entire world, largely through their military abilities, and they raped the fucking shit out of it. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:49:23 PM EDT
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Frankly, I'm delighted by the idea of sandy dicks. "What's your problem? Got sand in your dick?" Has a nice ring to it. 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:00:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /shrug All I know is that I would never consent to having it removed. I do see circumcision as mutilation, though comparing it to FGM is dishonest. That's like saying that removing someone pinky finger is the same as removing their arm from the elbow down. Yes, both things are assault, both inflict pain, and both are pretty dumb to do for religious and cultural reasons... but they just aren't comparable in scale. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How do you know? Personally, I'm glad that that part of my body that I most like having licked wasn't removed when I was an infant. I don't, just going by what medical science tells me. For all I know I could be missing out but I very much enjoy having mine licked without the extra curtain. /shrug All I know is that I would never consent to having it removed. I do see circumcision as mutilation, though comparing it to FGM is dishonest. That's like saying that removing someone pinky finger is the same as removing their arm from the elbow down. Yes, both things are assault, both inflict pain, and both are pretty dumb to do for religious and cultural reasons... but they just aren't comparable in scale. I agree that it is a form of mutilation but I never compared it to female genital mutilation. Circumcision is a stupid tradition and I would not do it to my son (if I had a son). Not sure why my parents had it done to me? We're not even Jewish.  |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:04:10 PM EDT
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I agree that it is a form of mutilation but I never compared it to female genital mutilation. Circumcision is a stupid tradition and I would not do it to my son (if I had a son). Not sure why my parents had it done to me? We're not even Jewish.
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I agree that it is a form of mutilation but I never compared it to female genital mutilation. Circumcision is a stupid tradition and I would not do it to my son (if I had a son). Not sure why my parents had it done to me? We're not even Jewish.
Its done primarily now for now Jewish and Muslim because of medical tradition, hygiene, and health. In regards to the latter, here's one compelling reason to have your kid cut: While the men showed similar communities of microbes before the operation, 12 months later, the circumcised men harbored dramatically fewer bacteria that survive in low oxygen conditions. They also had 81% less bacteria overall compared to the uncircumcised men, and that could have a dramatic effect on the men’s ability to fight off infections like HIV, says Price. Previous studies showed that circumcised men lowered their risk of transmitting HIV by as much as 50%, making the operation an important tool in preventing infection with the virus. Why? A high burden of bacteria could disrupt the ability of specialized immune cells known as Langerhans cells to activate immune defenses. In layman's terms, dirty dicks get AIDS easier. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its done primarily now for now Jewish and Muslim because of medical tradition, hygiene, and health. In regards to the latter, here's one compelling reason to have your kid cut: Why Circumcision Lowers Risk of HIV In layman's terms, dirty dicks get AIDS easier. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree that it is a form of mutilation but I never compared it to female genital mutilation. Circumcision is a stupid tradition and I would not do it to my son (if I had a son). Not sure why my parents had it done to me? We're not even Jewish. Its done primarily now for now Jewish and Muslim because of medical tradition, hygiene, and health. In regards to the latter, here's one compelling reason to have your kid cut: While the men showed similar communities of microbes before the operation, 12 months later, the circumcised men harbored dramatically fewer bacteria that survive in low oxygen conditions. They also had 81% less bacteria overall compared to the uncircumcised men, and that could have a dramatic effect on the men’s ability to fight off infections like HIV, says Price. Previous studies showed that circumcised men lowered their risk of transmitting HIV by as much as 50%, making the operation an important tool in preventing infection with the virus. Why? A high burden of bacteria could disrupt the ability of specialized immune cells known as Langerhans cells to activate immune defenses. In layman's terms, dirty dicks get AIDS easier. Meh, shotgun grip that shit and use this...  |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:20:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "After other Khudai Khidmatgar leaders were arrested, a large crowd of the group gathered at the Qissa Khwani bazaar. As British and Indian troops moved into the bazaar, the crowd was loud and stones were thrown. A British Army dispatch rider was killed and his body burned.Two British armored cars drove into the square at high speed, killing several people. It is claimed that the crowd continued their commitment to non-violence, offering to disperse if they could gather their dead and injured, and if British troops left the square. The British troops refused to leave, so the protesters remained with the dead and injured.At that point, the British ordered troops to open fire with machine guns on the unarmed crowd. The Khudai Khidmatgar members willingly faced bullets, responding without violence. Instead, many members repeated 'God is Great' and clutched the Qur'an as they went to their death." Qissa Khwani Bazaar massacre You forfeit all morality when shit like this happens, and this stuff was the norm throughout British India. Other fun moment of British colonial rule were the Opium War, the Great Game in Afghanistan, the concentration camps used to house the noncombatant family members of Boer farmers during the Boer War. The list of colonial excesses, mismanaged, and tyranny outweigh any positive benefit colonialization had on local communities. Look at the injustices that occurred here in America when we were still possessions of the Crown, and that was nothing compared to what the British did elsewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) "After other Khudai Khidmatgar leaders were arrested, a large crowd of the group gathered at the Qissa Khwani bazaar. As British and Indian troops moved into the bazaar, the crowd was loud and stones were thrown. A British Army dispatch rider was killed and his body burned.Two British armored cars drove into the square at high speed, killing several people. It is claimed that the crowd continued their commitment to non-violence, offering to disperse if they could gather their dead and injured, and if British troops left the square. The British troops refused to leave, so the protesters remained with the dead and injured.At that point, the British ordered troops to open fire with machine guns on the unarmed crowd. The Khudai Khidmatgar members willingly faced bullets, responding without violence. Instead, many members repeated 'God is Great' and clutched the Qur'an as they went to their death." Qissa Khwani Bazaar massacre You forfeit all morality when shit like this happens, and this stuff was the norm throughout British India. Other fun moment of British colonial rule were the Opium War, the Great Game in Afghanistan, the concentration camps used to house the noncombatant family members of Boer farmers during the Boer War. The list of colonial excesses, mismanaged, and tyranny outweigh any positive benefit colonialization had on local communities. Look at the injustices that occurred here in America when we were still possessions of the Crown, and that was nothing compared to what the British did elsewhere. Would India be a nuclear power with a space program today were it not for British rule? I seriously doubt it. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:22:25 PM EDT
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Would India be a nuclear power with a space program today were it not for British rule? I seriously doubt it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) "After other Khudai Khidmatgar leaders were arrested, a large crowd of the group gathered at the Qissa Khwani bazaar. As British and Indian troops moved into the bazaar, the crowd was loud and stones were thrown. A British Army dispatch rider was killed and his body burned.Two British armored cars drove into the square at high speed, killing several people. It is claimed that the crowd continued their commitment to non-violence, offering to disperse if they could gather their dead and injured, and if British troops left the square. The British troops refused to leave, so the protesters remained with the dead and injured.At that point, the British ordered troops to open fire with machine guns on the unarmed crowd. The Khudai Khidmatgar members willingly faced bullets, responding without violence. Instead, many members repeated 'God is Great' and clutched the Qur'an as they went to their death." Qissa Khwani Bazaar massacre You forfeit all morality when shit like this happens, and this stuff was the norm throughout British India. Other fun moment of British colonial rule were the Opium War, the Great Game in Afghanistan, the concentration camps used to house the noncombatant family members of Boer farmers during the Boer War. The list of colonial excesses, mismanaged, and tyranny outweigh any positive benefit colonialization had on local communities. Look at the injustices that occurred here in America when we were still possessions of the Crown, and that was nothing compared to what the British did elsewhere. Would India be a nuclear power with a space program today were it not for British rule? I seriously doubt it. So those two things define a country's success? Because North Korea has those things too. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:26:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So those two things define a country's success? Because North Korea has those things too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) "After other Khudai Khidmatgar leaders were arrested, a large crowd of the group gathered at the Qissa Khwani bazaar. As British and Indian troops moved into the bazaar, the crowd was loud and stones were thrown. A British Army dispatch rider was killed and his body burned.Two British armored cars drove into the square at high speed, killing several people. It is claimed that the crowd continued their commitment to non-violence, offering to disperse if they could gather their dead and injured, and if British troops left the square. The British troops refused to leave, so the protesters remained with the dead and injured.At that point, the British ordered troops to open fire with machine guns on the unarmed crowd. The Khudai Khidmatgar members willingly faced bullets, responding without violence. Instead, many members repeated 'God is Great' and clutched the Qur'an as they went to their death." Qissa Khwani Bazaar massacre You forfeit all morality when shit like this happens, and this stuff was the norm throughout British India. Other fun moment of British colonial rule were the Opium War, the Great Game in Afghanistan, the concentration camps used to house the noncombatant family members of Boer farmers during the Boer War. The list of colonial excesses, mismanaged, and tyranny outweigh any positive benefit colonialization had on local communities. Look at the injustices that occurred here in America when we were still possessions of the Crown, and that was nothing compared to what the British did elsewhere. Would India be a nuclear power with a space program today were it not for British rule? I seriously doubt it. So those two things define a country's success? Because North Korea has those things too. Both of those are pretty much jokes when it comes to the DPRK, but whatever. Would India have a large and successful pharmaceutical industry? A burgeoning tech sector? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:28:12 PM EDT
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Everybody knows that Africa only became a collection of festering shit holes after the Europeans colonized it.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:37:27 PM EDT
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I don't disagree that it's horrible. All I'm saying is the practices are a lot more related than most people are willing to admit. They are done for similar purposes as well. Circumcision didn't start out for hygiene reasons (the common excuse given today.) It started in a similar vein as the female version. Reduced sexual pleasure. One of the effects of circumcision is reduced sensitivity. Ergo, reduced pleasure. Is it the same? No, of course not. But it's still mutilation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's ironic is that male genital mutilation is tolerated, accepted, hell it's demanded in many circles.  Taking away a woman's ability to orgasm or enjoy sex completely is nowhere near the same thing as snipping off some extra skin. You know better. Not to mention many of the girls it is done to are married off terribly young, and are sewn up so tightly sex can be excruciating. Not only are they raped, their bodies are savaged again and again. I don't disagree that it's horrible. All I'm saying is the practices are a lot more related than most people are willing to admit. They are done for similar purposes as well. Circumcision didn't start out for hygiene reasons (the common excuse given today.) It started in a similar vein as the female version. Reduced sexual pleasure. One of the effects of circumcision is reduced sensitivity. Ergo, reduced pleasure. Is it the same? No, of course not. But it's still mutilation. LoL. No. You don't know wtf you're talking about. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 5:05:18 PM EDT
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LoL. No. You don't know wtf you're talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's ironic is that male genital mutilation is tolerated, accepted, hell it's demanded in many circles. Taking away a woman's ability to orgasm or enjoy sex completely is nowhere near the same thing as snipping off some extra skin. You know better. Not to mention many of the girls it is done to are married off terribly young, and are sewn up so tightly sex can be excruciating. Not only are they raped, their bodies are savaged again and again. I don't disagree that it's horrible. All I'm saying is the practices are a lot more related than most people are willing to admit. They are done for similar purposes as well. Circumcision didn't start out for hygiene reasons (the common excuse given today.) It started in a similar vein as the female version. Reduced sexual pleasure. One of the effects of circumcision is reduced sensitivity. Ergo, reduced pleasure. Is it the same? No, of course not. But it's still mutilation. LoL. No. You don't know wtf you're talking about. His professor said so. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 6:29:24 PM EDT
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Its done primarily now for now Jewish and Muslim because of medical tradition, hygiene, and health. In regards to the latter, here's one compelling reason to have your kid cut: Why Circumcision Lowers Risk of HIV In layman's terms, dirty dicks get AIDS easier. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree that it is a form of mutilation but I never compared it to female genital mutilation. Circumcision is a stupid tradition and I would not do it to my son (if I had a son). Not sure why my parents had it done to me? We're not even Jewish.
Its done primarily now for now Jewish and Muslim because of medical tradition, hygiene, and health. In regards to the latter, here's one compelling reason to have your kid cut: While the men showed similar communities of microbes before the operation, 12 months later, the circumcised men harbored dramatically fewer bacteria that survive in low oxygen conditions. They also had 81% less bacteria overall compared to the uncircumcised men, and that could have a dramatic effect on the men’s ability to fight off infections like HIV, says Price. Previous studies showed that circumcised men lowered their risk of transmitting HIV by as much as 50%, making the operation an important tool in preventing infection with the virus. Why? A high burden of bacteria could disrupt the ability of specialized immune cells known as Langerhans cells to activate immune defenses. In layman's terms, dirty dicks get AIDS easier. If you have the hygenic habits of the average man in Uganda that's poor enough to participate in a medical study where they chop part of your dick off for a few bucks... |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 7:01:40 PM EDT
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We are working to eradicate it here, England is embracing it with open arms. Also, when a nine year old has her clitoris cut off (without anesthesia), the next step is to marry her off to a forty or fifty year old man. Can someone go to England and help them untuck their thinking? Thanks When one holds the silly position that it is wrong to judge another culture by our standards, you invite this kind of bullshit. How good are our standards? Have you ever scene Toddlers in Tiaras? How about Planned Parenthood? Prison population ratios? Sexual taboos? Overeating? Judge thee not lest ye be judged. I invite you to judge my ass, that I might judge the fuck out of these backwards motherfuckers without appearing hypocritical to you. I agree with the blond gorilla! |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 8:03:25 PM EDT
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"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) "Peccavi" |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 8:24:16 PM EDT
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"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) This and General Mattis's statement to the Iraqi tribal leaders are two of my all-time favorites. Gotta love a man who states his business clearly and unequivocally. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 8:26:01 PM EDT
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I'm not a fan.
I'm also not going to think myself so important to say that what other nations/cultures do (outside of the US) do. There's a lot of evil in this world. This is just one. If I am not outraged all the time about the rest, why should I be outraged about this one? I don't have time to be outraged about every evil in the world, all the time. I just can't. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:13:56 PM EDT
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And the women who've had female genital mutilation don't generally have a problem with it either. It's deeply ingrained in their culture and, from what I read, women often perform or assist in the procedure. Culture can a bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How in the hell did someone come up with the idea that female and male genital mutilation was a good idea. Like I said, the two are not equivalent at all. I am a "victim" of "male genital mutilation", and I have no problem with it. And the women who've had female genital mutilation don't generally have a problem with it either. It's deeply ingrained in their culture and, from what I read, women often perform or assist in the procedure. Culture can a bitch. Yes they can. Some cultures and cultural practices are so fucked up that they deserve no part in any sort of modern westernized civilization. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:01:53 PM EDT
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Both of those are pretty much jokes when it comes to the DPRK, but whatever. Would India have a large and successful pharmaceutical industry? A burgeoning tech sector? DPRK has nukes and a space program and has launched shit into orbit. So it's not a joke, I'm sure dudes in Seoul aren't laughing about it. You think the British colonizers pushed the locals to become entrepreneurs and educated? Yeah right, those duties were reserved for only the British elite, not even the average Englishman was allowed a proper education during those periods, let alone coolies or "black bastards" as the British were find of calling Indians. Besides which, what happens 68 years after independence from the Brits isn't why the British were there. British involvement in India has nothing to do with saving the savages from themselves but was about maximizing profits for the British East India Company, no matter how many people were crushed along the way. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:09:51 PM EDT
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Everybody knows that Africa only became a collection of festering shit holes after the Europeans colonized it. If you and your family live in a fucked up house, always arguing with each other, does that give justification for a well armed neighbor to annex your property, subjugate you and your family so only they make profits, and this one member of your family a bone, the one they deem top slave? Most of Africa was a shit show of warring tribes that were infiltrated and conquered so European aristocrats and businessmen could take natural resources and profit off animals like elephants and rhinos. The borders that now cause major issues were drawn out to separate different European colonial possessions, having no basis in reality to the internal dynamics of those lands. Africa was fucked up, still is, and would have been if the western Europeans never came. But nobody can deny the gross injustices done during the colonisation of Africa. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:22:49 PM EDT
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If you and your family live in a fucked up house, always arguing with each other, does that give justification for a well armed neighbor to annex your property, subjugate you and your family so only they make profits, and this one member of your family a bone, the one they deem top slave? Most of Africa was a shit show of warring tribes that were infiltrated and conquered so European aristocrats and businessmen could take natural resources and profit off animals like elephants and rhinos. The borders that now cause major issues were drawn out to separate different European colonial possessions, having no basis in reality to the internal dynamics of those lands. Africa was fucked up, still is, and would have been if the western Europeans never came. But nobody can deny the gross injustices done during the colonisation of Africa. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everybody knows that Africa only became a collection of festering shit holes after the Europeans colonized it. If you and your family live in a fucked up house, always arguing with each other, does that give justification for a well armed neighbor to annex your property, subjugate you and your family so only they make profits, and this one member of your family a bone, the one they deem top slave? Most of Africa was a shit show of warring tribes that were infiltrated and conquered so European aristocrats and businessmen could take natural resources and profit off animals like elephants and rhinos. The borders that now cause major issues were drawn out to separate different European colonial possessions, having no basis in reality to the internal dynamics of those lands. Africa was fucked up, still is, and would have been if the western Europeans never came. But nobody can deny the gross injustices done during the colonisation of Africa. Somebody has the "smaller" paintbrush out, which I think is going to be more accurate  Come on Him, this is your moment 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:30:41 PM EDT
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Want to know how fucked up European colonization was? Look no further than. the Declaration of Independence, which was written as the result of the early excesses of British colonial rule. What those guys did to India, Africa, and China was a thousand times worse than the explotation that gave v the Founding Fathers cause to rebel. What made the Africans and others different that they too didn't deserve a foreign tyrannical overlord there only to plunder their land?
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Posted: 7/29/2015 11:44:47 PM EDT
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rates right up there with the practice of raping a virgin to cure aids,fucking brutal ignorant savages..
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Posted: 7/30/2015 8:22:31 AM EDT
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Want to know how fucked up European colonization was? Look no further than. the Declaration of Independence, which was written as the result of the early excesses of British colonial rule. What those guys did to India, Africa, and China was a thousand times worse than the explotation that gave v the Founding Fathers cause to rebel. What made the Africans and others different that they too didn't deserve a foreign tyrannical overlord there only to plunder their land? Lot of liberty hating wannabee tyrants in here. It wasn't like the British just handed us our independence.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 8:44:32 AM EDT
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Somebody has the "smaller" paintbrush out, which I think is going to be more accurate Come on Him, this is your moment Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everybody knows that Africa only became a collection of festering shit holes after the Europeans colonized it. If you and your family live in a fucked up house, always arguing with each other, does that give justification for a well armed neighbor to annex your property, subjugate you and your family so only they make profits, and this one member of your family a bone, the one they deem top slave? Most of Africa was a shit show of warring tribes that were infiltrated and conquered so European aristocrats and businessmen could take natural resources and profit off animals like elephants and rhinos. The borders that now cause major issues were drawn out to separate different European colonial possessions, having no basis in reality to the internal dynamics of those lands. Africa was fucked up, still is, and would have been if the western Europeans never came. But nobody can deny the gross injustices done during the colonisation of Africa. Somebody has the "smaller" paintbrush out, which I think is going to be more accurate Come on Him, this is your moment Too easy. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 8:48:43 AM EDT
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Foreskin.....nasty.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:00:50 AM EDT
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Muslims, meh.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:05:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DPRK has nukes and a space program and has launched shit into orbit. So it's not a joke, I'm sure dudes in Seoul aren't laughing about it. You think the British colonizers pushed the locals to become entrepreneurs and educated? Yeah right, those duties were reserved for only the British elite, not even the average Englishman was allowed a proper education during those periods, let alone coolies or "black bastards" as the British were find of calling Indians. Besides which, what happens 68 years after independence from the Brits isn't why the British were there. British involvement in India has nothing to do with saving the savages from themselves but was about maximizing profits for the British East India Company, no matter how many people were crushed along the way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Both of those are pretty much jokes when it comes to the DPRK, but whatever. Would India have a large and successful pharmaceutical industry? A burgeoning tech sector? DPRK has nukes and a space program and has launched shit into orbit. So it's not a joke, I'm sure dudes in Seoul aren't laughing about it. You think the British colonizers pushed the locals to become entrepreneurs and educated? Yeah right, those duties were reserved for only the British elite, not even the average Englishman was allowed a proper education during those periods, let alone coolies or "black bastards" as the British were find of calling Indians. Besides which, what happens 68 years after independence from the Brits isn't why the British were there. British involvement in India has nothing to do with saving the savages from themselves but was about maximizing profits for the British East India Company, no matter how many people were crushed along the way. DPRK doesn't have deliverable nukes, and its space program, after several spectacular failures, managed to put one satellite into orbit which promptly started tumbling out of control. So yeah, they're jokes. If the ROK was that worried, they could easily put together nukes of their own in short order; they have the materials and the engineering capability.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:40:34 AM EDT
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Foreskin.....nasty. Funny, mine's clean. Maybe you should wash your dick. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:44:27 AM EDT
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This and General Mattis's statement to the Iraqi tribal leaders are two of my all-time favorites. Gotta love a man who states his business clearly and unequivocally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) This and General Mattis's statement to the Iraqi tribal leaders are two of my all-time favorites. Gotta love a man who states his business clearly and unequivocally. No kidding! I hadn't heard that quote before (nor about the practice of burning widows in India), but I love it! Western civilization is BETTER, more evolved, more CIVIL... it just is (though it's far from perfect). |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:46:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Peccavi" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) "Peccavi" Classic pun. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:10:52 AM EDT
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Foreskin.....nasty. You know all ladies have the equivalent, right? All kinds of wet folds besides the hood too. Is that nasty? Do we need to cut the hood and and leave a dry, bare clit rod? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:18:48 AM EDT
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I'm not a fan. I'm also not going to think myself so important to say that what other nations/cultures do (outside of the US) do. There's a lot of evil in this world. This is just one. If I am not outraged all the time about the rest, why should I be outraged about this one? I don't have time to be outraged about every evil in the world, all the time. I just can't. Unfortunately, savage practices don't stay isolated in savage lands. These fuckers are mobile. England has a problem with them, and I believe we've had some trouble here. And these practices are indicators of general backwardsness and provide an excuse and excellent motivation for an ass kicking. Anything that brings savages in line with our values and practices is good. Oppressed victims of FGM raise little bombers and liberated little girls grow up to demand American style democracy in their countries. We're not living in isolation. It behooves us to export civilization, because savages are sure as hell trying to export barbarism to us. We might be saying "free the oppressed" because oppression bothers us, but there's some very pragmatic reasons to do it. It's about self preservation when you get down to it. And who can't get behind that? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:55:02 AM EDT
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DPRK doesn't have deliverable nukes, and its space program, after several spectacular failures, managed to put one satellite into orbit which promptly started tumbling out of control. So yeah, they're jokes. If the ROK was that worried, they could easily put together nukes of their own in short order; they have the materials and the engineering capability. The cultural legacy, infrastructure, etc left behind by the British are major reasons why India has come as far as it has. Or are you suggesting that India would be where it is (or better off, even) if the British had never colonized it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Both of those are pretty much jokes when it comes to the DPRK, but whatever. Would India have a large and successful pharmaceutical industry? A burgeoning tech sector? DPRK has nukes and a space program and has launched shit into orbit. So it's not a joke, I'm sure dudes in Seoul aren't laughing about it. You think the British colonizers pushed the locals to become entrepreneurs and educated? Yeah right, those duties were reserved for only the British elite, not even the average Englishman was allowed a proper education during those periods, let alone coolies or "black bastards" as the British were find of calling Indians. Besides which, what happens 68 years after independence from the Brits isn't why the British were there. British involvement in India has nothing to do with saving the savages from themselves but was about maximizing profits for the British East India Company, no matter how many people were crushed along the way. DPRK doesn't have deliverable nukes, and its space program, after several spectacular failures, managed to put one satellite into orbit which promptly started tumbling out of control. So yeah, they're jokes. If the ROK was that worried, they could easily put together nukes of their own in short order; they have the materials and the engineering capability. The cultural legacy, infrastructure, etc left behind by the British are major reasons why India has come as far as it has. Or are you suggesting that India would be where it is (or better off, even) if the British had never colonized it? Earlier you tried to act as if having a nuke and space program was synonymous with success, as a justification for hundreds of years of violent and exploitative colonial rule. North Korea, however meager in your own mind, also has a nuke and space program. You can't discard it simply because it doesn't fit in with your narrow view and shitty original example. You brought it up, you should have known from get go that it didn't make sense. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:58:49 AM EDT
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Want to know how fucked up European colonization was? Look no further than. the Declaration of Independence, which was written as the result of the early excesses of British colonial rule. What those guys did to India, Africa, and China was a thousand times worse than the explotation that gave v the Founding Fathers cause to rebel. What made the Africans and others different that they too didn't deserve a foreign tyrannical overlord there only to plunder their land? Lot of liberty hating wannabee tyrants in here. It wasn't like the British just handed us our independence.... No, we fought to overthrow British sovereignty. Every other nation and tribe the British colonized after tried to do the same, but failed. An interesting factoid, following its defeat in America, Great Britain reformed its army completely, further professionalizing it. It was this army (led by none other than Cornwallis) and the British East India's mercenary army which greatly subdued the majority of India, making it a British possession. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:23:05 AM EDT
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Any form of mutilation of children or adults is horrid.
I was cut as a child, I had no choice. My sons' penises are intact. When they are old enough and then they can decide if they want it cut off. The practice should be outlawed for ANY form, male or female without the person being of legal age where they decide for themselves if they want it done. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:26:17 AM EDT
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"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cultural imperialism isn't just a good thing, its a great thing. The Indians didn't change India, the British did. The ZANU didn't take the breadbasket of Africa and turn it into mass-grave filled economic basket case. Israel and Gaza. Even the West Bank and Gaza. The southwestern US and Northern Mexico are very similar along geographic and even cultural standpoints, but distinctly different in economic and government. If people have the will the power, they have the will to power, be that in Iraq or Mexico. Saying there is no difference between culture is accepting decline gracefully. However, the enemy of cut "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Sir Charles James Napier, responding to Indian complaints about the British outlawing the practice of Sati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)) I wonder what was happening elsewhere in the 1830-40s, when Napier spoke that famous line in 1840: - Great Britain only banned slavery among its own holdings in 1833, only seven years before Napier chastised the Indians. - In Great Britain, the Industrial Revolution was in full swing, which led to such squalid working conditions that bullshit theories like socialism and communism were popularized. The 1830s and early 1840s were a time of workers organizing and protesting, rioting, and forming unions. - Great Famine in Ireland, exacerbated by British colonial rule and its landlord system, which killed and displaced millions of Irish, causing the first great exodus to America - The famous Amistead case is heard in the US Supreme Court in 1841, feeding the flames of the anti-slavery movement, which would ignite into the Civil War. This part is most interesting because at the time British were stopping relatives from killing widows, Americans were still legally allowed to own slaves and do what they want with them. - The great Opium Wars between UK and China, over British merchants demanding free and open markets to sell opium grown in India. Some other good Napier quotes: "The best way to quiet a country is a good thrashing, followed by great kindness afterwards. Even the wildest chaps are thus tamed." "Come here instantly. Come here at once and make your submission, or I will in a week tear you from the midst of your village and hang you." Wouldn't you absolutely love to hear things like this uttered about you? |
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