The most important thing regarding the issue of immigration is that they are changing the socio-political culture of the U.S. in their refusal to assimilate and large numbers, with high birth rates, and are having a detrimental impact upon politics which can ruin this country.  If massive amounts of Swiss or more conservative Englishmen pouring over our borders, we would not be having he same problems or as many problems. The illegality is of secondary or even tertiary importance.  It's who these people are and how much their children mirror them (which is especially important since we have birthright citizenship.  It's also not about race, as much as some people try to paint it that way.  It's about culture, plain and simple.

Ahhh...direct democracy....whom do we get to vote off the island first?



 

Another big step toward a one party system.

Florida is not California. We will not go down without a fight.

Ah, the public school system...

It's like one of those parasite life cycles where the adult makes the environment too toxic or uncomfortable for their young so they leave to find a new host.

The one thing that will keep us better than California is are super strong gun culture. Our CCW Permit is over One Million strong. That alone is a major thing. We might go liberal but even the Libe that move here get CCWs and like having ARs.

 

Yes I know that. I'm just looking at what happened between South America and Mexico. Opened their borders to illegals to flood the U.S. I wouldn't put it past Puerto Rico to do the same. The Obama administration doesn't require anyone to prove citizenship. That's why I said I wonder how many of them are coming into this country legally. How many are flooding into puerto Rico and coming into the United States.

keep thinking that the crises in these other countries is an accident or due to their own ineptitude. The DNC has been working for decades to buy elections with foreigners, and they aren't above bankrupting foreign states in order to do it. The ends justify the means.

I hope so, because I'm not seeing a way forward to victory for a GOP Presidential candidate without winning Florida.

Well since PRs are US Citizens, literally all of them are legal.

LOL.... why the fuck would Guatematecos go to Puerto Rico.... an island on the ass end of the Caribbean and then have to fly to the mainland when they can cross unopposed into the US through Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California.

 

South Americans for the most part don't look Boricua, sound Boricua, and they sure as hell will stand out in Puerto Rico.

Ummm.... Puerto Rico is America. Your Statement makes no sense.

 

I thought they had numerous referendums and always chose independence. aka status quo.

Better get to work redistricting then.

The Status Quo was always to be an American Territory. Independence never had a any support. Only retarded asshats supported the idea of being an independent country. Much like the asshats in Texas, Alaska, and Hawaii.

 

Statehood won a huge majority in the last referendum. They're tried of having being taxed and having no say in Federal matters.

The Florida Legislature is actually going into Session early due to Redistricting.

 

Even without an influx of Democrat voting Puerto Ricans, I'm worried about the GOP taking Florida in '16.  I have to wonder if some of the support Jeb is seeing is based on the belief that he can deliver Florida.

California takes Colorado

Mexico and California take Texas

New York and Puerto Rico take FL

Game…..set……match.

Not saying give up but demographics are pretty much a cast iron motherfucker.

Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Blacks and misc FSA folks pretty much all reliably pull the D, election after election.

Stop worrying about Texas. By the time we go blue, everyone else will be voting red because it will stand for the Communist party.

Spend your time and energy worrying about actual swing states for the foreseeable future like FL, OH, VA (maybe), NC, etc.

Let me know when the shooting starts. Until then I'm sharpening my hatchet......

Yes,...

We Know...  

It is EXACTLY as intended.   This was a check to balance the impact of highly populated states completely usurping the interests of less populated states.

Hedge funds tell Puerto Rico: lay off teachers and close schools to pay us back








"They are proposing teacher layoffs, cuts in higher education and health benefits, as well as increased taxes. These proposals have been a disaster for Latin America and would be so for Puerto Rico. Sure, Puerto Rico could pay its debt, but at what cost? We are literally cutting off our own limbs just to stay afloat.

"The Puerto Rican government has already closed down almost 100 schools this year and reconfigured 500 more, as well has having closed down 60 the year prior. I am not sure what else they are expecting. If they expect us to lay off teachers or cut their already-low salaries, they are out of their minds.


Puerto Rico Unable to Meet Aug. 1 Payment Deadline


The Puerto Rico Public Finance Corporation – a subsidiary of the U.S. territory's Government Development Bank – doesn't have enough cash to give its bondholders tens of millions of dollars by Saturday's deadline, Victor Suarez, the Puerto Rican governor's chief of staff, told reporters in San Juan on Monday, according to CNBC and Reuters. Suarez said Puerto Rico will do "everything that is possible" for the development bank's debt to be repaid.

Puerto Rico is staring down more than $70 billion in outstanding debt, several times what Detroit's was when the city filed for bankruptcy back in 2013. But unlike Detroit and Stockton, California – two debt-ridden cities that successfully filed for Chapter 9bankruptcy protections – Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory. As such, it's not afforded the same legal benefits extended to other American jurisdictions.





Drought means more water rationing in Puerto Rico







The continuing drop in the level of river water has left no alternative but to launch a period of rationing Monday in the municipalities of Rio Grande, Luquillo and Loiza, the AAA said in a statement.


At present more than a third of Puerto Rico's 3.7 million inhabitants are affected by a rationing plan that began in May and in some cases lasts 24 out of every 48 hours, and elsewhere for as long as two out of every three days.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Most PRs immigrating to Fl from NY lean left. Most immigrants from the island are conservative.

When they find out democrats won't allow them to work more than 29 hours a week they won't vote (D). When they hear democrats believe they are really stupid they won't vote D. When they hear democrats fine them for not providing /buying federal gov mandated health insurance, abortions and birth control to all employees in traditional male trade/professions they won't vote D. When they find out democrat mandated health insurance is worthless marxist shit they won't vote D. When they look at democrat individual /business tax burdens and fines democrats refuse to repeal they won't vote D.



Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It Passed



Full List of Obama Tax Hikes

1. A 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco: On February 4, 2009, just sixteen days into his Administration, Obama signed into law a 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco, a hike of 61 cents per pack. The median income of smokers is just over $36,000 per year.

2. Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax (takes effect in Jan 2014): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance – as defined by Obama-appointed HHS bureaucrats -- must pay an income surtax according to the higher of the following:






1 Adult


2 Adults


3+ Adults

2014


1% AGI/$95


1% AGI/$190


1% AGI/$285

2015


2% AGI/$325


2% AGI/$650


2% AGI/$975

2016 +


2.5% AGI/$695


2.5% AGI/$1390


2.5% AGI/$2085


The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that six million American families will be liable for the tax, and as Americans for Tax Reform has pointed out, 100 percent of Americans filing a tax return (140 million filers) will be forced to submit paperwork to the IRS showing they had “qualifying” health insurance for every month of the tax year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 317-337)

3. Obamacare Employer Mandate Tax (takes effect Jan. 2014): If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for all full-time employees. Applies to all employers with 50 or more employees. If any employee actually receives coverage through the exchange, the penalty on the employer for that employee rises to $3000. If the employer requires a waiting period to enroll in coverage of 30-60 days, there is a $400 tax per employee ($600 if the period is 60 days or longer). Bill: PPACA; Page: 345-346

Combined score of individual and employer mandate tax penalty: $65 billion/10 years

4. Obamacare Surtax on Investment Income (Tax hike of $123 billion/takes effect Jan. 2013): Creation of a new, 3.8 percent surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single). This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income: Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 87-93






Capital Gains


Dividends


Other*

2011-2012


15%


15%


35%

2013+ (current law)


23.8%


43.4%


43.4%

2013+ (Obama budget)


23.8%


23.8%


43.4%


*Other unearned income includes (for surtax purposes) gross income from interest, annuities, royalties, net rents, and passive income in partnerships and Subchapter-S corporations. It does not include municipal bond interest or life insurance proceeds, since those do not add to gross income. It does not include active trade or business income, fair market value sales of ownership in pass-through entities, or distributions from retirement plans. The 3.8% surtax does not apply to non-resident aliens.

5. Obamacare Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans (Tax hike of $32 bil/takes effect Jan. 2018): Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family). Higher threshold ($11,500 single/$29,450 family) for early retirees and high-risk professions. CPI +1 percentage point indexed. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,941-1,956

6. Obamacare Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax (Tax hike of $86.8 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Current law and changes:






First $200,000
($250,000 Married)
Employer/Employee


All Remaining Wages
Employer/Employee

Current Law


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

Obamacare Tax Hike


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed


1.45%/2.35%
3.8% self-employed


Bill: PPACA, Reconciliation Act; Page: 2000-2003; 87-93

7. Obamacare Medicine Cabinet Tax (Tax hike of $5 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Americans are no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957-1,959

8. Obamacare HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike (Tax hike of $1.4 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,959

9. Obamacare Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka “Special Needs Kids Tax” (Tax hike of $13 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Imposes cap on FSAs of $2500 (currently unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,388-2,389

10. Obamacare Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers (Tax hike of $20 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Medical device manufacturers 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3 percent excise tax on total sales, even if the respective company does not earn a profit. Exempts items retailing for <$100. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,980-1,986

11. Obamacare "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI (Tax hike of $15.2 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995

12. Obamacare Tax on Indoor Tanning Services (Tax hike of $2.7 billion/took effect July 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons. Making matters worse: According to a Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report, the Obama IRS didn’t bother to issue compliance guidelines until three quarterly filing deadlines had passed: “By the time [IRS] notices were issued, tanning excise tax returns had been due for three quarters." Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,397-2,399

13. Obamacare elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (Tax hike of $4.5 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013) Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994

14. Obamacare Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike (Tax hike of $0.4 bil/took effect Jan. 1 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,004

15. Obamacare Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Min$/took effect immediately): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by Obama-appointed HHS bureaucrats. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,961-1,971

16. Obamacare Tax on Innovator Drug Companies (Tax hike of $22.2 bil/took effect Jan. 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,971-1,980

17. Obamacare Tax on Health Insurers (Tax hike of $60.1 bil/takes effect Jan. 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year. Phases in gradually until 2018. Fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,986-1,993

18. Obamacare $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives (Tax hike of $0.6 bil/takes effect Jan 2013). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,995-2,000

19. Obamacare Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 ($min/takes effect Jan. 2012): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957

20. Obamacare “Black liquor” tax hike (Tax hike of $23.6 billion/took effect immediately). This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 105

21. Obamacare Codification of the “economic substance doctrine” (Tax hike of $4.5 billion/took effect immediately). This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks “substance” and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 108-113



Restoring the 40-Hour Work Week to Help Americans Hit Hardest by ObamaCare

Yep.

The Founders were correctly terrified of Athenian-style Democracy. They knew that once we transitioned from a Republic into a Democracy, our slide into Oligarchy and eventually Autocracy would be speed up.

Wasn't it said if the left takes Texas or Florida it is all over for anything truly right of center on a national level.

+1

Presidential popular vote has been a public opinion goal of Democrats for a long time. No surprise seeing it suggested here all the time.  

Well...you also thought that Puerto Ricans were illegal immigrants lol

And this right here...is a prime example of why our system is so fucked.

I love that he provided direct evidence in support of the claim he's trying to argue against.  

+1.
The electoral college favors rural (Red) states.

Count me as a secessionist asshat.

It's the only realistic hope for retaining any semblance of what the United States was before it goes full Turd World Banana Republic. That's just how it is.

Ted Kennedy was one of the biggest assholes in politics EVAR.

Never is a very long time. Texas was voting for Democrat governors less than 20 years ago.
The GOP will modify itself to get those votes. The US will not become a one-party state.

GTFO. GD has no room for people who offer, you know, facts and thought and shit.