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Link Posted: 7/24/2015 8:23:44 PM EDT
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Run.

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Link Posted: 7/24/2015 8:24:53 PM EDT
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To me it looks like a whole wall shifted.
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Link Posted: 7/24/2015 8:31:03 PM EDT
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That's foundation



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This.



 
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 9:04:00 PM EDT
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Crack house.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 9:05:47 PM EDT
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LoL..no different then the relationship thread,  about the guys wife that cheated. People do what they want regardless what anyone says.
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OP asks a question

Overwhelming opinion is RUN!!! Not enough upside too risky downside.

Any guesses on what OP will do?




LoL..no different then the relationship thread,  about the guys wife that cheated. People do what they want regardless what anyone says.



Most people asking for advice are really just asking for validation of a choice they already made.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 9:29:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2015 9:36:32 PM EDT
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RUN AWAY.


Do you know how much shit you will have to deal with getting that house in order? How much is weeks/months of time out of the house and dealing with contractors worth in rent and frustration?
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 9:52:28 PM EDT
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Fuck that shit
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 10:11:01 PM EDT
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You're just buying a "fix-r-upper" that's all.





Link Posted: 7/25/2015 2:44:43 PM EDT
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Well I am thinking about doing an exspection and seeing what he says and going from there. If we back out now we won't be out anything but the inspection
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 1:43:20 PM EDT
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Same house you're talking about here?  http://www.ak47.net/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1759674
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OP, what about this question?

Link Posted: 7/27/2015 1:56:11 PM EDT
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OP, what about this question?

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Same house you're talking about here?  http://www.ak47.net/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1759674

OP, what about this question?


That is a different house
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:04:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:06:08 PM EDT
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Whats wrong with some crack
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:06:15 PM EDT
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Well I am thinking about doing an exspection and seeing what he says and going from there. If we back out now we won't be out anything but the inspection
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So, you're turning to a building inspector for engineering advice.  It's certainly cheaper that way.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:08:28 PM EDT
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Um, no.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:16:30 PM EDT
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I don't know shit about building a house but it sure looks a lot worse than what you're suggesting.

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That looks like poor drywall work.The cracking tiles are probably from dropping things on them or not enough thin set.


I don't know shit about building a house but it sure looks a lot worse than what you're suggesting.



Not an expert but the wall cracks look like house settling. Given OP is in earthquake land, he also might be experiencing a severe drought which also causes ground drying and foundation movement.



The tile cracks are something else.  Given they are on the slab they should not crack like that.  The tile cracking is more consistent with tile on a wood foundation without a wonderboard base, but again they are riding on a 6" slab.



 
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:21:11 PM EDT
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OMG, I'm watching that movie tonight!  So funny. I hope it is still as funny to me as it was 25 years ago, when I saw it.


 
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:26:07 PM EDT
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As an engineer who has designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, I don't need to see anything more.



It's already obvious.
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OP, as an engineer who had designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, you need to walk.  You're looking at foundation failure.



It will never improve.
dont you think he should actually look at the foundation first?



it should be obvious
As an engineer who has designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, I don't need to see anything more.



It's already obvious.
tcrpe, I am really curious about this, as I have one ceiling/wall joint that looks like the OP's in my home.  It has been the same for 10 years, so I don't expect it to change much more.



Based on what you saw in OPs pics, and him saying it is on a slab; do you expect that house to seriously deteriorate further at a dangerous pace, or does it fall somewhere along the lines of "this will always cause you headaches, as you will never stop patching & painting cracks"?

 
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:27:00 PM EDT
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I'm no expert but that looks like more than just settling cracks.  I'd pass.
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If the foundation doesn't show signs of settling I am wondering if the house is poorly constructed and flexes in strong winds.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:32:28 PM EDT
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Run Forrest, run.........
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:34:17 PM EDT
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Looks like the same guy that took the pics, built the house too. Both are crooked and fucked up.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:34:20 PM EDT
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looks like settling or REALLY Shitty owners beating the shit out of it.  I would say run.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:40:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:42:16 PM EDT
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Offer was accepted on this house and before I pay for an expected or appraiser I want some more input.
To me it looks like a whole wall shifted. Everyone outside and in the attic looks good. but these are all over the house. Foundation issue or settling?
House is bank owned and is a screaming deal for the area. Might be too good to be true though....


crack in ceiling
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crack in kicken. It goes all the way over and down the wall.
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door to one bedroom sticks bad. This is both sides of door.
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Tiles cracking in kitchen floor.
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So should I pay an inspector to look or run and hide?
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Looks like a cheap thrown together FL pos to me..... Id walk
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:43:24 PM EDT
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I love all the comments about ejecting.  No comments about price.  
Buy a ~$250k house for ~$100k?  I'll take 100 of those houses with cracks like those.  

Call the most expensive place you can find, and qet a quote/proposal on foundation repairs.  For example, if they ask whether you want either 5 or 8 helical piers, tell them to give you a quote for 10.  
Then toss that written proposal into the deal.  After you buy the house you can get it done cheaper.  

Never, ever, say no to a house deal.  Make it worth your while, and then let the seller say no.  
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Listen to this man. I was going to say something similar yesterday, but decided against it (Laziness really).


Never just walk. Make the deal worth your while. I'll buy a pile of fucking ash from a home fire.....If the deal is right.

Your frist step is to decide if you want a turn key "walk in and smile", or are willing to have additional time spent on repair and expenses. If you are fine with the second, get the foundation properly, thoroughly inspected. Find out whats wrong and what it will cost to fix it right.

Then go back to the sellers with a new set of numbers and make a deal that works for you, or walk away.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:45:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:48:54 PM EDT
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Offer $87 for the house.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 2:53:50 PM EDT
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door to one bedroom sticks bad. This is both sides of door.
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Something bad is going on. Cracks running up/out 45 degrees from the tops of doors/windows are tale-tale signs of foundation issues.

Do not buy
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 3:02:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2015 3:03:57 PM EDT
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Find another house, one without $40k to $50k in risk.

Really.
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer.
Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable.

I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed



Find another house, one without $40k to $50k in risk.

Really.


This.

Link Posted: 7/27/2015 3:11:26 PM EDT
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I'm thinking shitty drywall and possibly shitty tile work.

The tile is concerning, but I've seen shitty tile work that looked exactly like that.

Is there any way to see houses built by the same builder in that time frame?  Might be common issues.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 3:14:43 PM EDT
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buy a different house
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FPNI
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 3:15:23 PM EDT
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if you decide to investigate this further, I would use a structural engineer, not a home inspector
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Ding ding.  You need someone with ", PE" after their name.



 
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 4:09:01 PM EDT
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Listen to this man. I was going to say something similar yesterday, but decided against it (Laziness really).





Never just walk. Make the deal worth your while. I'll buy a pile of fucking ash from a home fire.....If the deal is right.



Your frist step is to decide if you want a turn key "walk in and smile", or are willing to have additional time spent on repair and expenses. If you are fine with the second, get the foundation properly, thoroughly inspected. Find out whats wrong and what it will cost to fix it right.



Then go back to the sellers with a new set of numbers and make a deal that works for you, or walk away.
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I love all the comments about ejecting.  No comments about price.  

Buy a ~$250k house for ~$100k?  I'll take 100 of those houses with cracks like those.  



Call the most expensive place you can find, and qet a quote/proposal on foundation repairs.  For example, if they ask whether you want either 5 or 8 helical piers, tell them to give you a quote for 10.  

Then toss that written proposal into the deal.  After you buy the house you can get it done cheaper.  



Never, ever, say no to a house deal.  Make it worth your while, and then let the seller say no.  




Listen to this man. I was going to say something similar yesterday, but decided against it (Laziness really).





Never just walk. Make the deal worth your while. I'll buy a pile of fucking ash from a home fire.....If the deal is right.



Your frist step is to decide if you want a turn key "walk in and smile", or are willing to have additional time spent on repair and expenses. If you are fine with the second, get the foundation properly, thoroughly inspected. Find out whats wrong and what it will cost to fix it right.



Then go back to the sellers with a new set of numbers and make a deal that works for you, or walk away.
After reading this...

 









Yea.  Yea this might be a much better solution.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 4:22:15 PM EDT
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Rarely is there a thread in GD with more than a page of the same collective opinion. There are 4 pages so far, of the same opinion, yet OP fails to see it.

inb4 "I decided to buy it anyway" and all of GD going:
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 4:27:29 PM EDT
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You put an offer in on a house and you haven't got a clue about the cracking?  That's wonderful.  
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You put an offer in on a house and you haven't got a clue about the cracking?  That's wonderful.  
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Special kind of stupid.  Realtors love people like the OP

Link Posted: 7/28/2015 2:05:42 AM EDT
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Probably the wisest choice. Good luck.
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 2:51:16 AM EDT
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Only an idiot would buy that house
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 2:56:23 AM EDT
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Dibs on guns and ammo.
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OP Night 3 in new house.


 
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Or the floor is flexing.



OP, what state or region is this home in? Earthquake country? Or was it used as an elephant sanctuary or something?



This house has some definite issues, if you do not have  good home inspector to tell you whether these cracks are indicative of simply a minor problem or a major issue, you might want to cut your losses on this one. There are always more houses to choose from.



ETA saw where you said the house is on a slab. I would not buy a house on a slab ever again...did it once and it is my "no-go" for all future homes.



But this house has has tile that is cracked that bad ON A CONCRETE SLAB?! That is crazy. I would not touch that house with a 10 ft pole.
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That looks like poor drywall work.The cracking tiles are probably from dropping things on them or not enough thin set.


Or the floor is flexing.



OP, what state or region is this home in? Earthquake country? Or was it used as an elephant sanctuary or something?



This house has some definite issues, if you do not have  good home inspector to tell you whether these cracks are indicative of simply a minor problem or a major issue, you might want to cut your losses on this one. There are always more houses to choose from.



ETA saw where you said the house is on a slab. I would not buy a house on a slab ever again...did it once and it is my "no-go" for all future homes.



But this house has has tile that is cracked that bad ON A CONCRETE SLAB?! That is crazy. I would not touch that house with a 10 ft pole.
I am a tIle contractor.  That is caused by a Crack in the substrate and the movement which is effectively destroying that house.  There is very little that can be done to prevent more cracking even after repairs to the damaged area.

 
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 3:10:54 AM EDT
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No disclosure from the seller? I think that they would have fixed the cracks to sell the house if they could have. They have probably already identified the problem and by law have to tell you about it when you ask. That's why they didn't bother to hide it. I think your realtor should have already taken care of this.
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 5:07:58 AM EDT
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Run away, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Did I say run away as fast as you can?
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 5:53:27 AM EDT
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op any longwall mining in the area?
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 5:59:04 AM EDT
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Either foundation issues or the house is finally settling in to the ground I would call for a expert opinion who handles these type of issues.

 
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 6:16:55 AM EDT
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Im living in a house from the late 1800's. It has its issues, but damn those cracks are just a beginning as whats to come. Make a low ball offer and let them say no. Then walk away.
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 6:43:02 AM EDT
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Sink hole comes to mind...built on top of a subsiding area. Personally I would walk like the original owner did.
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He was blind the whole time.

 






Oh......Crack House!






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