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Posted: 7/24/2015 8:32:40 PM EDT
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I saw this posted on LinkedIn today and thought it might be worth mentioning here. No idea how well it works, but I don't see too many potential downsides with it. It's worth a look if you'd be ok with metal.
Standing Seam Metal Over Shingles Eta: We have a loose business acquaintance with these guys, though I've never dealt with them personally; but they aren't some random "fly by night" crew that popped up. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 8:40:35 PM EDT
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I saw this posted on LinkedIn today and thought it might be worth mentioning here. No idea how well it works, but I don't see too many potential downsides with it. Standing Seam Metal Over Shingles I'm quite certain the hoa would burn down my home if I did that. What kind of warranty should I expect with a new roof? |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 8:44:35 PM EDT
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I'm quite certain the hoa would burn down my home if I did that. What kind of warranty should I expect with a new roof? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw this posted on LinkedIn today and thought it might be worth mentioning here. No idea how well it works, but I don't see too many potential downsides with it. Standing Seam Metal Over Shingles I'm quite certain the hoa would burn down my home if I did that. What kind of warranty should I expect with a new roof? Lol. Didn't know you were in an HOA. They would most certainly lynch you for switching to metal. New architectural shingles, expect a two year installer's warranty and 30-35 year material manufacturer's warranty (depending on grade of shingles). The material warranty will likely be in the brochure and on the packaging. Also, I deal with commercial roofing and not so much with residential construction. Commercial roofing material warranties are usually only honored if installed by a manufacturer-approved, qualified contractor. It's probably not as stringent to get shingle warranty coverage on a residential home, but it's definitely worth a glance at the manufacturer's website first. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 9:14:22 PM EDT
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For those that had a metal roof installed, is it louder in the house when it rains? Did you get the extra insulation under the metal? I'm looking at having my 29 year old roof redone. No leaks yet, but I'm on borrowed time. ours was installed over the shingles. It's quieter in here during hail storms than before, and I just noticed today that it's much cooler up there than I remember ( it was about 98 degrees here). I don't know if it's the metal roof's reflectivity or the upgraded ventilators we had installed with the metal roof. There is a layer rolled out over the shingles before the metal went on. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 9:21:39 PM EDT
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Wait for a hail storm and call your insurance  thats what i did.. OP, They strip the old shingles and replace any rotten wood. they then lay new shingles and any vents that need replacing.. I did it two years ago on a 1100 square foot ranch with a very flat roof and it cost around 5500 bucks. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 9:53:17 PM EDT
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thats what i did.. OP, They strip the old shingles and replace any rotten wood. they then lay new shingles and any vents that need replacing.. I did it two years ago on a 1100 square foot ranch with a very flat roof and it cost around 5500 bucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait for a hail storm and call your insurance thats what i did.. OP, They strip the old shingles and replace any rotten wood. they then lay new shingles and any vents that need replacing.. I did it two years ago on a 1100 square foot ranch with a very flat roof and it cost around 5500 bucks. Thanks man. I almost want to be up there with them to say that wood is fucked up; fix it. I don't want them covering up problems. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:03:28 PM EDT
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Thanks man. I almost want to be up there with them to say that wood is fucked up; fix it. I don't want them covering up problems. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait for a hail storm and call your insurance thats what i did.. OP, They strip the old shingles and replace any rotten wood. they then lay new shingles and any vents that need replacing.. I did it two years ago on a 1100 square foot ranch with a very flat roof and it cost around 5500 bucks. Thanks man. I almost want to be up there with them to say that wood is fucked up; fix it. I don't want them covering up problems. You can get a Velocity harness, a shock lanyard, a 50' rope, a "rope grabber", and a nail-in safety anchor from any ABC Supply or White Cap store in your area for $300-350. Those are my recommendation. Otherwise, buy a "safety bucket" from Home Depot for about $125. If you're tied-off then they shouldn't have any problem with you climbing on the roof. Speaking from experience though... try to be an active part of the process, but not overbearing. The contractor probably does actually know better than you and I can guarantee that you do not want to make the contractor think that you're an impedent to his project. And i forgot to mention.. Look up a video on fall safety harnesses and make sure yours is fitted properly before you get on the roof with it. 'Proper fit' can be deceiving, but you'll definitely notice the bad fitment if you end up needing it. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:05:14 PM EDT
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900sqft on house 2 car garage and shed with porch, 30 year shingle, new ice ridge and plastic ridge vent with shingle 7760
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:12:26 PM EDT
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Lol. Eta: 50 year shingles? I think they call those "slate".  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't tell anyone, but I work for one of the largest roofing manufacturers in the world. When a tornado told my shingle roof to fuck off, I replaced with metal. Everyone needs 50 year architectural shingles at a minimum. Get a warranty too.  Lol. Eta: 50 year shingles? I think they call those "slate". GAF calls 'em "lifetime". lol. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:15:08 PM EDT
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They should be replaced every 10 years.
Just like what so many Goofs here say abt water heaters.
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:28:42 PM EDT
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I just had my roof replaced. As in they laid the last shingle today. I have a modest house, 1800sgft rancher. My roof was $3700 which included removing a chimney. I got 30yr shingles. They said I could expect 20 years out of them considering the trees. I'm 41, nod it is not likely I will live in this house the rest of my life. I feel good about it. I hope this helps.
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:53:20 PM EDT
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You can get a Velocity harness, a shock lanyard, a 50' rope, a "rope grabber", and a nail-in safety anchor from any ABC Supply or White Cap store in your area for $300-350. Those are my recommendation. Otherwise, buy a "safety bucket" from Home Depot for about $125. If you're tied-off then they shouldn't have any problem with you climbing on the roof. Speaking from experience though... try to be an active part of the process, but not overbearing. The contractor probably does actually know better than you and I can guarantee that you do not want to make the contractor think that you're an impedent to his project. And i forgot to mention.. Look up a video on fall safety harnesses and make sure yours is fitted properly before you get on the roof with it. 'Proper fit' can be deceiving, but you'll definitely notice the bad fitment if you end up needing it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait for a hail storm and call your insurance thats what i did.. OP, They strip the old shingles and replace any rotten wood. they then lay new shingles and any vents that need replacing.. I did it two years ago on a 1100 square foot ranch with a very flat roof and it cost around 5500 bucks. Thanks man. I almost want to be up there with them to say that wood is fucked up; fix it. I don't want them covering up problems. You can get a Velocity harness, a shock lanyard, a 50' rope, a "rope grabber", and a nail-in safety anchor from any ABC Supply or White Cap store in your area for $300-350. Those are my recommendation. Otherwise, buy a "safety bucket" from Home Depot for about $125. If you're tied-off then they shouldn't have any problem with you climbing on the roof. Speaking from experience though... try to be an active part of the process, but not overbearing. The contractor probably does actually know better than you and I can guarantee that you do not want to make the contractor think that you're an impedent to his project. And i forgot to mention.. Look up a video on fall safety harnesses and make sure yours is fitted properly before you get on the roof with it. 'Proper fit' can be deceiving, but you'll definitely notice the bad fitment if you end up needing it. I know my limits. That's why Im paying somebody else to do it. There is a line on diy and this is way over mine. |
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Posted: 7/27/2015 11:27:20 PM EDT
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GAF calls 'em "lifetime". lol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't tell anyone, but I work for one of the largest roofing manufacturers in the world. When a tornado told my shingle roof to fuck off, I replaced with metal. Everyone needs 50 year architectural shingles at a minimum. Get a warranty too. Lol. Eta: 50 year shingles? I think they call those "slate". GAF calls 'em "lifetime". lol. When I first saw them coming off the line at the plant. I said WTF are those? I was told 50yr shingles. He said they have copper in them. I laughed my ass off and wanted to meet the first guy who bought that wonderful product.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:01:28 AM EDT
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16 years is not a long time for a roof. State Farm (shitty insurance) told me there were a few years were shingles were made differently at about that time and didn't last as long as they should have - again probably BS because they didn't want to pay on my hail damage claim.
Do you have adequate roof venting? If not, that will shorten a roofs life span. Don't patch, all you'll do is chase the water to another spot. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:03:39 AM EDT
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Lots of variables, quality of materials, weather, on and on.
I had a high quality roof installed 25 years ago, it was getting pretty old, according to the roofer's inspector it might have lasted another year or two if I was lucky, no real weather damage. I just had it replaced with a pretty good quality composite shingles, cost me $8,000, they did most of it in one 12 hour day, did have to come back the next morning for a couple of hours to completely finish and clean up. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:16:18 AM EDT
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16 years is not a long time for a roof. State Farm (shitty insurance) told me there were a few years were shingles were made differently at about that time and didn't last as long as they should have - again probably BS because they didn't want to pay on my hail damage claim. Do you have adequate roof venting? If not, that will shorten a roofs life span. Don't patch, all you'll do is chase the water to another spot. Not BS as they were made by Certainteed and I had them on a house I bought. They lasted 9 years on a 30 year shingle and I was paid a good chunk of money by them when I replaced them as part of a class action lawsuit. http://www.certainteedshinglesettlement.com/identifyshingles.cfm |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 7:49:33 AM EDT
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I had steel roofing installed on top of the existing shingles. $6500 about 7 years ago. Dad and I did the same with mine. $800 in materials. I'm never doing a shingle roof again. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:12:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 16 years is not a long time for a roof. State Farm (shitty insurance) told me there were a few years were shingles were made differently at about that time and didn't last as long as they should have - again probably BS because they didn't want to pay on my hail damage claim. Do you have adequate roof venting? If not, that will shorten a roofs life span. Don't patch, all you'll do is chase the water to another spot. Organic shingles... Made with the finest recycled paper as a base material. They literally fall apart. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:12:50 AM EDT
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When I first saw them coming off the line at the plant. I said WTF are those? I was told 50yr shingles. He said they have copper in them. I laughed my ass off and wanted to meet the first guy who bought that wonderful product. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't tell anyone, but I work for one of the largest roofing manufacturers in the world. When a tornado told my shingle roof to fuck off, I replaced with metal. Everyone needs 50 year architectural shingles at a minimum. Get a warranty too. Lol. Eta: 50 year shingles? I think they call those "slate". GAF calls 'em "lifetime". lol. When I first saw them coming off the line at the plant. I said WTF are those? I was told 50yr shingles. He said they have copper in them. I laughed my ass off and wanted to meet the first guy who bought that wonderful product. I used to work a contract at the HQ, they were always shooing me out of the testing lab. Those guys have some fun. 
They're what we went with a couple years back when it was roof time though. I expect 'em to wear like 30 year shingles, anything more is pure profit. They sure look nice and the install was well done. |
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