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Posted: 8/2/2015 5:13:05 PM EDT
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I'm not making an opinion on the topic at hand just yet, there is more evidence to reveal... But be careful hitching your wagon. Then get on with it and tell us. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 5:26:54 PM EDT
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How any riots start because a citizen uses deadly force and is not immediately arrested? How many have started before a Grand Jury meets or the prosecutor direct files? How many riots before Zimmerman was directly charged and after he was found not guilty at trial? The special interest groups, race baiters and legal pimps would like to see every officer charged when using deadly force, looks like parts of our country are moving that way, and some wonder why the cops here mention smile and wave. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you think the "justice" system you work for is shit? I would agree. It's not a justice system. .......it's a legal system That is what I am getting at. Leos love the system when is is screwing a non leo or exonerating criminal leo conduct. We are told if we don't like the system to change the laws. Now theres butthurt that the same system is being used against a leo. How any riots start because a citizen uses deadly force and is not immediately arrested? How many have started before a Grand Jury meets or the prosecutor direct files? How many riots before Zimmerman was directly charged and after he was found not guilty at trial? The special interest groups, race baiters and legal pimps would like to see every officer charged when using deadly force, looks like parts of our country are moving that way, and some wonder why the cops here mention smile and wave. EH...Seems to me cops are bringing it down on their own heads....police yourselves up and shit can the shitty cops straighten up the mediocre cops, follow the Constitution and that oath.. as for the smile and wave shit..if thats your answer you are part of the problem... either stand up and do the job right or lay the badge down and do something else for a living...or keep denying it and sooner or later the feds will step in...then it will be beyond fixing...for those who are good cops..stay safe, prayers out to you.... |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 5:29:47 PM EDT
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I'm not making an opinion on the topic at hand just yet, there is more evidence to reveal... But be careful hitching your wagon. Then get on with it and tell us. My guess is that the original video is better than what is on youtube. More importantly, there were credible eye witnesses. Based on the charges, I assume that they didn't back his story. If not, nothing will save him from prison. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 5:29:59 PM EDT
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EH...Seems to me cops are bringing it down on their own heads....police yourselves up and shit can the shitty cops straighten up the mediocre cops, follow the Constitution and that oath.. as for the smile and wave shit..if thats your answer you are part of the problem... either stand up and do the job right or lay the badge down and do something else for a living...or keep denying it and sooner or later the feds will step in...then it will be beyond fixing...for those who are good cops..stay safe, prayers out to you.... Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 5:38:25 PM EDT
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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EH...Seems to me cops are bringing it down on their own heads....police yourselves up and shit can the shitty cops straighten up the mediocre cops, follow the Constitution and that oath.. as for the smile and wave shit..if thats your answer you are part of the problem... either stand up and do the job right or lay the badge down and do something else for a living...or keep denying it and sooner or later the feds will step in...then it will be beyond fixing...for those who are good cops..stay safe, prayers out to you.... Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. How many citizens stood behind officer wilson? didn't they do a fund raiser for him? is he a free man with his whole life in front of him? the more cops do the right thing the more law abiding citizens will stand behind them...  but the defend anything, make excuse stuff has to go..even if its only 1% bad..they need to stop wearing a badge.. the indifferent ones need a talking to and they all need to follow the really good cops lead....
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Posted: 8/2/2015 5:43:48 PM EDT
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How many citizens stood behind officer wilson? didn't they do a fund raiser for him? is he a free man with his whole life in front of him? the more cops do the right thing the more law abiding citizens will stand behind them... but the defend anything, make excuse stuff has to go..even if its only 1% bad..they need to stop wearing a badge.. the indifferent ones need a talking to and they all need to follow the really good cops lead....Quote HistoryQuoted:
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EH...Seems to me cops are bringing it down on their own heads....police yourselves up and shit can the shitty cops straighten up the mediocre cops, follow the Constitution and that oath.. as for the smile and wave shit..if thats your answer you are part of the problem... either stand up and do the job right or lay the badge down and do something else for a living...or keep denying it and sooner or later the feds will step in...then it will be beyond fixing...for those who are good cops..stay safe, prayers out to you.... Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. How many citizens stood behind officer wilson? didn't they do a fund raiser for him? is he a free man with his whole life in front of him? the more cops do the right thing the more law abiding citizens will stand behind them... but the defend anything, make excuse stuff has to go..even if its only 1% bad..they need to stop wearing a badge.. the indifferent ones need a talking to and they all need to follow the really good cops lead....He stood up and did the job right, and he still put the badge down. Smile and wave.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 5:47:09 PM EDT
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this might be a silly question, but why not just move quickly away from the car as it started to move (which he apparently did because he fell backwards) without drawing and shooting?
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Posted: 8/2/2015 5:55:07 PM EDT
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My guess is that the original video is better than what is on youtube. More importantly, there were credible eye witnesses. Based on the charges, I assume that they didn't back his story. If not, nothing will save him from prison. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not making an opinion on the topic at hand just yet, there is more evidence to reveal... But be careful hitching your wagon. Then get on with it and tell us. My guess is that the original video is better than what is on youtube. More importantly, there were credible eye witnesses. Based on the charges, I assume that they didn't back his story. If not, nothing will save him from prison. Yep, unless there is revelation from Jesus Christ himself, nothing will save this officer from prison. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 6:35:07 PM EDT
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this might be a silly question, but why not just move quickly away from the car as it started to move (which he apparently did because he fell backwards) without drawing and shooting? Are you serious? His head would have been run over. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 6:41:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EH...Seems to me cops are bringing it down on their own heads....police yourselves up and shit can the shitty cops straighten up the mediocre cops, follow the Constitution and that oath.. as for the smile and wave shit..if thats your answer you are part of the problem... either stand up and do the job right or lay the badge down and do something else for a living...or keep denying it and sooner or later the feds will step in...then it will be beyond fixing...for those who are good cops..stay safe, prayers out to you.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: .......it's a legal system That is what I am getting at. Leos love the system when is is screwing a non leo or exonerating criminal leo conduct. We are told if we don't like the system to change the laws. Now theres butthurt that the same system is being used against a leo. How any riots start because a citizen uses deadly force and is not immediately arrested? How many have started before a Grand Jury meets or the prosecutor direct files? How many riots before Zimmerman was directly charged and after he was found not guilty at trial? The special interest groups, race baiters and legal pimps would like to see every officer charged when using deadly force, looks like parts of our country are moving that way, and some wonder why the cops here mention smile and wave. EH...Seems to me cops are bringing it down on their own heads....police yourselves up and shit can the shitty cops straighten up the mediocre cops, follow the Constitution and that oath.. as for the smile and wave shit..if thats your answer you are part of the problem... either stand up and do the job right or lay the badge down and do something else for a living...or keep denying it and sooner or later the feds will step in...then it will be beyond fixing...for those who are good cops..stay safe, prayers out to you.... Lol! Define "good cop"? I got news for you, kid, in this profession, you are only one bad traffic stop away from going from hero to zero. I've worked too hard to get where I am personally and professionally to lose it all over some worthless asshole with 13 kids, no job, and SIXTY FUCKING ARRESTS! The people have spoken, and we are listening... Smile and wave, smile and wave.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 6:56:59 PM EDT
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The part where few if any of the people affected by prophylactic gun-pointing can secure criminal prosecution or civil remedies for the agg assault. I have never seen any law that authorizes cops to point guns at people in the absence of reasonable articulable suspicion that the target poses a threat of conduct which would justify DF. It's just something that cops do with impunity. It would be a combination rodeo and hootenanny if somebody at whom a cop pointed a gun "just to be safe" shot the cop. I mean, if somebody points a gun at you shooting him is a reasonable response. You get in trouble if he had a legal privilege to point the gun. As I said, I don't know that any such privilege extends beyond situations where the cop has RAS that you are a threat which may jutify DF. In drug warrant executions, guns are generally pointed at everyone in the premises, regardless of who they are and regardless of whether there is information about weapons on premises. I believe this practice to be unlawful and actionable - and prosecutable. LOL |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:07:37 PM EDT
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Smartphone, IIRC. Wow, with the proliferation of smart phones these guys must be terrified. yeah, at the time they knew it was a phone. You're on a troll roll in this thread. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:26:14 PM EDT
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Yep, unless there is revelation from Jesus Christ himself, nothing will save this officer from prison. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not making an opinion on the topic at hand just yet, there is more evidence to reveal... But be careful hitching your wagon. Then get on with it and tell us. My guess is that the original video is better than what is on youtube. More importantly, there were credible eye witnesses. Based on the charges, I assume that they didn't back his story. If not, nothing will save him from prison. Yep, unless there is revelation from Jesus Christ himself, nothing will save this officer from prison. Watch the cops here that are defending him. When the cops that saw it testify the he's lying, we'll finally find out what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:29:04 PM EDT
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I've asked a question at least 2 times in this thread and no one has touched it. How does a perp "accelerate" while your left hand is grabbing his seat belt... And you are still somehow positioned at the front side of the driver's door with your chest aimed toward the rear of the car and your right arm/shot comes in nearly perpendicular to the long-side of the car? Look at every picture in this thread (pro or anti shoot) and the chest/arm positioning is undeniable.
Science experiment.... Go out in the road, and stick your left arm through the window of a car and grab the seatbelt around the driver. Have your wife or buddy accelerate at any significant rate. Tell me where your body is at 1 or 2 seconds later. Furthermore, act as though you have a gun holstered on your RIGHT side. Try re-enacting the draw. IF you can get your shooting angle such that you have a shot on the driver, look at the angle. Compare that to the video. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:34:50 PM EDT
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I've asked a question at least 2 times in this thread and no one has touched it. How does a perp "accelerate" while your left hand is grabbing his seat belt... And you are still somehow positioned at the front side of the driver's door with your chest aimed toward the rear of the car and your right arm/shot comes in nearly perpendicular to the long-side of the car? Look at every picture in this thread (pro or anti shoot) and the chest/arm positioning is undeniable. Science experiment.... Go out in the road, and stick your left arm through the window of a car and grab the seatbelt around the driver. Have your wife or buddy accelerate at any significant rate. Tell me where your body is at 1 or 2 seconds later. Furthermore, act as though you have a gun holstered on your RIGHT side. Try re-enacting the draw. IF you can get your shooting angle such that you have a shot on the driver, look at the angle. Compare that to the video. Science? GTFO! 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:35:07 PM EDT
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The part where few if any of the people affected by prophylactic gun-pointing can secure criminal prosecution or civil remedies for the agg assault. I have never seen any law that authorizes cops to point guns at people in the absence of reasonable articulable suspicion that the target poses a threat of conduct which would justify DF. It's just something that cops do with impunity. It would be a combination rodeo and hootenanny if somebody at whom a cop pointed a gun "just to be safe" shot the cop. I mean, if somebody points a gun at you shooting him is a reasonable response. You get in trouble if he had a legal privilege to point the gun. As I said, I don't know that any such privilege extends beyond situations where the cop has RAS that you are a threat which may jutify DF. In drug warrant executions, guns are generally pointed at everyone in the premises, regardless of who they are and regardless of whether there is information about weapons on premises. I believe this practice to be unlawful and actionable - and prosecutable. LOL Thing is.......sadly it's not really funny........its fucking retarded |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:39:12 PM EDT
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Or anyone who shoots a minority trying to jack them. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:39:46 PM EDT
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Or anyone who shoots a minority trying to jack them. No argument. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:00:21 PM EDT
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Or anyone who shoots a minority trying to jack them. No argument. Just pointing out how stupid the "guess we should just simle and wave" hurt feels bullshit is. It's the risk you take putting on the cleats. The full contact social discourse game is changing. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:01:23 PM EDT
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I've worked too hard to get where I am personally and professionally to lose it all over some worthless asshole with 13 kids, no job, and SIXTY FUCKING ARRESTS! The people have spoken, and we are listening... Smile and wave, smile and wave. Welcome to the world we've been living in since Zimmerman.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:05:31 PM EDT
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Just pointing out how stupid the "guess we should just simle and wave" hurt feels bullshit is. It's the risk you take putting on the cleats. The full contact social discourse game is changing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Or anyone who shoots a minority trying to jack them. No argument. Just pointing out how stupid the "guess we should just simle and wave" hurt feels bullshit is. It's the risk you take putting on the cleats. The full contact social discourse game is changing. Guess it's a risk you take for driving too, right?
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:21:55 PM EDT
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Guess it's a risk you take for driving too, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Or anyone who shoots a minority trying to jack them. No argument. Just pointing out how stupid the "guess we should just simle and wave" hurt feels bullshit is. It's the risk you take putting on the cleats. The full contact social discourse game is changing. Guess it's a risk you take for driving too, right? Well played. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:24:42 PM EDT
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this might be a silly question, but why not just move quickly away from the car as it started to move (which he apparently did because he fell backwards) without drawing and shooting? how long before every shitbag gets word that driving away is an easy way to evade arrest? |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:38:48 PM EDT
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Or anyone who shoots a minority trying to jack them. Make sure you're polite to the guy who robs you. 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:40:24 PM EDT
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how long before every shitbag gets word that driving away is an easy way to evade arrest? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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this might be a silly question, but why not just move quickly away from the car as it started to move (which he apparently did because he fell backwards) without drawing and shooting? how long before every shitbag gets word that driving away is an easy way to evade arrest? Why does the argument immediately go to an absurd level? I just went to youtube and searched "Runs from police" and it came back with "about 220,000 hits". I suspect at least 50,000 of those are people who are pulled over by the police and then haul ass much like this case and the officer goes back to his car and begins a pursuit. I am willing to bet that there is ZERO of them where the people later were pissed off at the police because a motivated dirtbag was able to extend a chase by a few miles before getting taken down by superior tactics of the police. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:46:41 PM EDT
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Just pointing out how stupid the "guess we should just simle and wave" hurt feels bullshit is. It's the risk you take putting on the cleats. The full contact social discourse game is changing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Or anyone who shoots a minority trying to jack them. No argument. Just pointing out how stupid the "guess we should just simle and wave" hurt feels bullshit is. It's the risk you take putting on the cleats. The full contact social discourse game is changing. Nope. The whole "smile and wave" deal is the way many city govs/admins want the job done. It has been trending that way for a while now. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:49:23 PM EDT
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Why does the argument immediately go to an absurd level? I just went to youtube and searched "Runs from police" and it came back with "about 220,000 hits". I suspect at least 50,000 of those are people who are pulled over by the police and then haul ass much like this case and the officer goes back to his car and begins a pursuit. I am willing to bet that there is ZERO of them where the people later were pissed off at the police because a motivated dirtbag was able to extend a chase by a few miles before getting taken down by superior tactics of the police. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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this might be a silly question, but why not just move quickly away from the car as it started to move (which he apparently did because he fell backwards) without drawing and shooting? how long before every shitbag gets word that driving away is an easy way to evade arrest? Why does the argument immediately go to an absurd level? I just went to youtube and searched "Runs from police" and it came back with "about 220,000 hits". I suspect at least 50,000 of those are people who are pulled over by the police and then haul ass much like this case and the officer goes back to his car and begins a pursuit. I am willing to bet that there is ZERO of them where the people later were pissed off at the police because a motivated dirtbag was able to extend a chase by a few miles before getting taken down by superior tactics of the police. how many times have innocent people been caught up in shitbag's dash for freedom? |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:54:04 PM EDT
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Why does the argument immediately go to an absurd level? I just went to youtube and searched "Runs from police" and it came back with "about 220,000 hits". I suspect at least 50,000 of those are people who are pulled over by the police and then haul ass much like this case and the officer goes back to his car and begins a pursuit. I am willing to bet that there is ZERO of them where the people later were pissed off at the police because a motivated dirtbag was able to extend a chase by a few miles before getting taken down by superior tactics of the police. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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this might be a silly question, but why not just move quickly away from the car as it started to move (which he apparently did because he fell backwards) without drawing and shooting? how long before every shitbag gets word that driving away is an easy way to evade arrest? Why does the argument immediately go to an absurd level? I just went to youtube and searched "Runs from police" and it came back with "about 220,000 hits". I suspect at least 50,000 of those are people who are pulled over by the police and then haul ass much like this case and the officer goes back to his car and begins a pursuit. I am willing to bet that there is ZERO of them where the people later were pissed off at the police because a motivated dirtbag was able to extend a chase by a few miles before getting taken down by superior tactics of the police. Not even worth starting a pursuit, especially over a traffic offense/possible DUI. You pursue, who knows what'll happen. He could drive up into a yard and run over/kill some kids. You'll get blamed for that. Spike strips? Nope. Suspect might wreck out and hit another car, injuring a citizen, for which you'll get blamed. As the prosecutor said, "just let him go". I'd give him a cordial "and drive safely now" as he pulled away, so I don't get complained on for courtesy. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 10:59:38 PM EDT
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Nope. The whole "smile and wave" deal is the way many city govs/admins want the job done. It has been trending that way for a while now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doing the right thing will still get you screwed. Aka, Darren Wilson. Or anyone who shoots a minority trying to jack them. No argument. Just pointing out how stupid the "guess we should just simle and wave" hurt feels bullshit is. It's the risk you take putting on the cleats. The full contact social discourse game is changing. Nope. The whole "smile and wave" deal is the way many city govs/admins want the job done. It has been trending that way for a while now. Sounds like its time for those admins to downsize the force and keep the good ones who want to do the job...take some of that extra funding and pay those willing to stay and do it right better, provide better training/equipment for them, and still cut the budget by a bit..sounds like a win/win to me.... |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:01:25 PM EDT
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Sounds like its time for those admins to downsize the force and keep the good ones who want to do the job...take some of that extra funding and pay those willing to stay and do it right better, provide better training/equipment for them, and still cut the budget by a bit..sounds like a win/win to me.... Those some ones that want to do the job are the ones that are pro active and stopping people for "victimless crimes". Why do you hate 'merica? 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:08:28 PM EDT
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Those some ones that want to do the job are the ones that are pro active and stopping people for "victimless crimes". Why do you hate 'merica? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like its time for those admins to downsize the force and keep the good ones who want to do the job...take some of that extra funding and pay those willing to stay and do it right better, provide better training/equipment for them, and still cut the budget by a bit..sounds like a win/win to me.... Those some ones that want to do the job are the ones that are pro active and stopping people for "victimless crimes". Why do you hate 'merica? Sorry, if they can't do the job within the confines of our Constitution then they arnt good cops... argue all you want, but that is what has gotten us where we are today...
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:09:57 PM EDT
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Sorry, if they can't do the job within the confines of our Constitution then they arnt good cops... argue all you want, but that is what has gotten us where we are today...Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like its time for those admins to downsize the force and keep the good ones who want to do the job...take some of that extra funding and pay those willing to stay and do it right better, provide better training/equipment for them, and still cut the budget by a bit..sounds like a win/win to me.... Those some ones that want to do the job are the ones that are pro active and stopping people for "victimless crimes". Why do you hate 'merica? Sorry, if they can't do the job within the confines of our Constitution then they arnt good cops... argue all you want, but that is what has gotten us where we are today...We aren't talking about the guys that refuse to do ANYTHING. We are talking about the guys that will respond to calls, but not be pro active. Ya know... pro active = rights violator. (Or so I have been told) |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:11:45 PM EDT
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We aren't talking about the guys that refuse to do ANYTHING. We are talking about the guys that will respond to calls, but not be pro active. Ya know... pro active = rights violator. (Or so I have been told) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like its time for those admins to downsize the force and keep the good ones who want to do the job...take some of that extra funding and pay those willing to stay and do it right better, provide better training/equipment for them, and still cut the budget by a bit..sounds like a win/win to me.... Those some ones that want to do the job are the ones that are pro active and stopping people for "victimless crimes". Why do you hate 'merica? Sorry, if they can't do the job within the confines of our Constitution then they arnt good cops... argue all you want, but that is what has gotten us where we are today...We aren't talking about the guys that refuse to do ANYTHING. We are talking about the guys that will respond to calls, but not be pro active. Ya know... pro active = rights violator. (Or so I have been told) Ahh.. sorry I thought they were talking about all officers |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:12:45 PM EDT
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Ahh.. sorry I thought they were talking about all officers I don't think any of us have stated to not respond to calls. Smile and wave just means you put the blinders on. Especially to smaller crimes.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:15:18 PM EDT
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I don't think any of us have stated to not respond to calls. Smile and wave just means you put the blinders on. Especially to smaller crimes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ahh.. sorry I thought they were talking about all officers I don't think any of us have stated to not respond to calls. Smile and wave just means you put the blinders on. Especially to smaller crimes. Honestly, I don't have an issue with it..personally, I want cops to go get the bangers/rapiest/killers/violents.. the rest.. who cares... |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:16:32 PM EDT
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Honestly, I don't have an issue with it..personally, I want cops to go get the bangers/rapiest/killers/violents.. the rest.. who cares... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ahh.. sorry I thought they were talking about all officers I don't think any of us have stated to not respond to calls. Smile and wave just means you put the blinders on. Especially to smaller crimes. Honestly, I don't have an issue with it..personally, I want cops to go get the bangers/rapiest/killers/violents.. the rest.. who cares... Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:50:01 PM EDT
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Ahh.. sorry I thought they were talking about all officers I don't think any of us have stated to not respond to calls. Smile and wave just means you put the blinders on. Especially to smaller crimes. Honestly, I don't have an issue with it..personally, I want cops to go get the bangers/rapiest/killers/violents.. the rest.. who cares... Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. Nice of you to come right out and admit this. Our Founders knew power corrupts. It's human nature. You're a step above Obama because you've come right out and admitted you're not the exception. 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:55:26 PM EDT
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Nice of you to come right out and admit this. Our Founders knew power corrupts. It's human nature. You're a step above Obama because you've come right out and admitted you're not the exception.
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I just smile and wave these days. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:08:24 AM EDT
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Nice of you to come right out and admit this. Our Founders knew power corrupts. It's human nature. You're a step above Obama because you've come right out and admitted you're not the exception.
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I just smile and wave these days. Now, if we could only get Obama to do the same... |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:15:57 AM EDT
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Why does the argument immediately go to an absurd level? I just went to youtube and searched "Runs from police" and it came back with "about 220,000 hits". I suspect at least 50,000 of those are people who are pulled over by the police and then haul ass much like this case and the officer goes back to his car and begins a pursuit. I am willing to bet that there is ZERO of them where the people later were pissed off at the police because a motivated dirtbag was able to extend a chase by a few miles before getting taken down by superior tactics of the police. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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this might be a silly question, but why not just move quickly away from the car as it started to move (which he apparently did because he fell backwards) without drawing and shooting? how long before every shitbag gets word that driving away is an easy way to evade arrest? Why does the argument immediately go to an absurd level? I just went to youtube and searched "Runs from police" and it came back with "about 220,000 hits". I suspect at least 50,000 of those are people who are pulled over by the police and then haul ass much like this case and the officer goes back to his car and begins a pursuit. I am willing to bet that there is ZERO of them where the people later were pissed off at the police because a motivated dirtbag was able to extend a chase by a few miles before getting taken down by superior tactics of the police. So, your answer to his question is based on YouTube hits and your feelings?! I expected more from a Texan. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:20:16 AM EDT
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this might be a silly question, but why not just move quickly away from the car as it started to move (which he apparently did because he fell backwards) without drawing and shooting? how long before every shitbag gets word that driving away is an easy way to evade arrest? Why does the argument immediately go to an absurd level? I just went to youtube and searched "Runs from police" and it came back with "about 220,000 hits". I suspect at least 50,000 of those are people who are pulled over by the police and then haul ass much like this case and the officer goes back to his car and begins a pursuit. I am willing to bet that there is ZERO of them where the people later were pissed off at the police because a motivated dirtbag was able to extend a chase by a few miles before getting taken down by superior tactics of the police. how many times have innocent people been caught up in shitbag's dash for freedom? enough times that as a watch commander I will call my guys off before someone gets killed |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:22:31 AM EDT
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Nice of you to come right out and admit this. Our Founders knew power corrupts. It's human nature. You're a step above Obama because you've come right out and admitted you're not the exception.
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Ahh.. sorry I thought they were talking about all officers I don't think any of us have stated to not respond to calls. Smile and wave just means you put the blinders on. Especially to smaller crimes. Honestly, I don't have an issue with it..personally, I want cops to go get the bangers/rapiest/killers/violents.. the rest.. who cares... Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. Nice of you to come right out and admit this. Our Founders knew power corrupts. It's human nature. You're a step above Obama because you've come right out and admitted you're not the exception.
So.... how big are your abuses of power these days ?
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:25:21 AM EDT
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Nice of you to come right out and admit this. Our Founders knew power corrupts. It's human nature. You're a step above Obama because you've come right out and admitted you're not the exception.
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Ahh.. sorry I thought they were talking about all officers I don't think any of us have stated to not respond to calls. Smile and wave just means you put the blinders on. Especially to smaller crimes. Honestly, I don't have an issue with it..personally, I want cops to go get the bangers/rapiest/killers/violents.. the rest.. who cares... Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. Nice of you to come right out and admit this. Our Founders knew power corrupts. It's human nature. You're a step above Obama because you've come right out and admitted you're not the exception.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:26:07 AM EDT
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Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. Every fourth person I pull over for small shit has heroin, meth, or warrants. Every once in a while I get a lexus or mercedes with powder cocaine. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:28:48 AM EDT
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Nice of you to come right out and admit this. Our Founders knew power corrupts. It's human nature. You're a step above Obama because you've come right out and admitted you're not the exception.
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Wait, you're saying a legal and legitimate RS for a stop, that leads to PC upon further investigation, is Unconstitutional? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:33:24 AM EDT
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Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. Every fourth person I pull over for small shit has heroin, meth, or warrants. Every once in a while I get a lexus or mercedes with powder cocaine. Clearly the war on drugs is almost won. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:38:11 AM EDT
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Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. Every fourth person I pull over for small shit has heroin, meth, or warrants. Every once in a while I get a lexus or mercedes with powder cocaine. Clearly the war on drugs is almost won. I hope not. Job security. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:25:42 AM EDT
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Bad guys drive.
Bad guys drive bad cars. Bad guys drive bad cars badly. Want to make felony arrests... do traffic stops. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:06:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clearly the war on drugs is almost won. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. Every fourth person I pull over for small shit has heroin, meth, or warrants. Every once in a while I get a lexus or mercedes with powder cocaine. Clearly the war on drugs is almost won. And the war on murder? Robbery? Burglary? Theft? Rape? Forgery? Kidnapping? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:06:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clearly the war on drugs is almost won. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thing is... smaller shit leads to bigger shit. It always has for me. Every fourth person I pull over for small shit has heroin, meth, or warrants. Every once in a while I get a lexus or mercedes with powder cocaine. Clearly the war on drugs is almost won. Weird double tap |
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