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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:54:38 PM EDT
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Current odds to win Super Bowl LI :
Patriots 9/1 Panthers 10/1 Seahawks 10/1 Steelers 10/1 Packers 12/1 Broncos 15/1 Cardinals 15/1 Cowboys 15/1 Bengals 18/1 Colts 20/1 Chiefs 25/1 Vikings 25/1 Bills 40/1 Giants 40/1 Jets 40/1 Ravens 40/1 Texans 40/1 Bears 50/1 Falcons 50/1 Lions 50/1 Redskins 50/1 Saints 50/1 Buccanneers 60/1 Chargers 60/1 Dolphins 60/1 Eagles 60/1 Jaguars 60/1 Raiders 60/1 Rams 60/1 Titans 60/1 49ers 75/1 Browns 200/1 |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 3:35:10 PM EDT
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:22:09 PM EDT
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 if you want to do a direct comparative, you need to normalize your data. that's a fancy way of saying that there have been a shitload of rule changes favoring the offense in the last 30 years. best to compare variations from the league average. for example, in 1985, 12 teams (almost half the league back then) finished with less than 320ypg. in 2015, only 3 did. the 1985 #2 offense (SF) would have finished #11 in 2015...right behind the new york jets. i think that the evolution of offensive schemes and the consistent offensive bias in rule changes offset the 25ypg difference. there was no 'tackle box' for a QB to avoid sacks in '85. secondary players were much, much more physical with receivers. there were no 'defenseless player' rules. and, of course, the bears weren't flipping between a broken-down QB and his zero-experience backup either, and they had the best rushing attack in the league. i'm not arguing that DEN was the greatest or anything, just that the analysis in the pic is so shallow as to be worthless. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:27:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:36:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 Shit, they arguably aren't even the best defense of the last 3 years. 2013 Seahawks: 4,378 yards 231 points allowed 1 shut out 39 take aways 44 sacks |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:45:19 PM EDT
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if you want to do a direct comparative, you need to normalize your data. that's a fancy way of saying that there have been a shitload of rule changes favoring the offense in the last 30 years. best to compare variations from the league average. for example, in 1985, 12 teams (almost half the league back then) finished with less than 320ypg. in 2015, only 3 did. the 1985 #2 offense (SF) would have finished #11 in 2015...right behind the new york jets. i think that the evolution of offensive schemes and the consistent offensive bias in rule changes offset the 25ypg difference. there was no 'tackle box' for a QB to avoid sacks in '85. secondary players were much, much more physical with receivers. there were no 'defenseless player' rules. and, of course, the bears weren't flipping between a broken-down QB and his zero-experience backup either, and they had the best rushing attack in the league. i'm not arguing that DEN was the greatest or anything, just that the analysis in the pic is so shallow as to be worthless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 if you want to do a direct comparative, you need to normalize your data. that's a fancy way of saying that there have been a shitload of rule changes favoring the offense in the last 30 years. best to compare variations from the league average. for example, in 1985, 12 teams (almost half the league back then) finished with less than 320ypg. in 2015, only 3 did. the 1985 #2 offense (SF) would have finished #11 in 2015...right behind the new york jets. i think that the evolution of offensive schemes and the consistent offensive bias in rule changes offset the 25ypg difference. there was no 'tackle box' for a QB to avoid sacks in '85. secondary players were much, much more physical with receivers. there were no 'defenseless player' rules. and, of course, the bears weren't flipping between a broken-down QB and his zero-experience backup either, and they had the best rushing attack in the league. i'm not arguing that DEN was the greatest or anything, just that the analysis in the pic is so shallow as to be worthless. It was just a meme I found interesting. I wasn't writing a thesis on the topic, but let's compare some numbers of some defenses in the past 15 years. 2015 Broncos: Int: 14. FF: 22 Opp PPG: 18.5. Shutouts: 0 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:48:05 PM EDT
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The rules now a days make make it impossible to achieve the success that the 85 Bears had. The NFL is way to offense friendly now in an attempt to make games more "exiting". Bronco's defense may be as dominant as a defense can be with the current rules in place. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:49:31 PM EDT
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Shit, they arguably aren't even the best defense of the last 3 years. 2013 Seahawks: 4,378 yards 231 points allowed 1 shut out 39 take aways 44 sacks Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 Shit, they arguably aren't even the best defense of the last 3 years. 2013 Seahawks: 4,378 yards 231 points allowed 1 shut out 39 take aways 44 sacks again, raw numbers comparison is too shallow to draw any useful assessments. DEN QBs threw 23 INTs in 2015. in 2013, wilson threw 9. 2015 DEN rushing game was 17th. 2013 SEA rushing game was 4th. think that might have made a bit of difference in terms of defensive performance? |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:51:24 PM EDT
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1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. your meme said they had 64 takeaways. here it says 43. interestingly, CHI '85 and DEN '15 gave up exactly the same yards per play: 4.4. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:53:30 PM EDT
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your meme said they had 64 takeaways. here it says 43. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. your meme said they had 64 takeaways. here it says 43. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 5:56:24 PM EDT
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your meme said they had 64 takeaways. here it says 43. http://www.quickmeme.com/img/cf/cf2eca5aca1a658d8602c64a18f6f13463a4cb434c23b15d3123a394707e8cf5.jpg 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 6:08:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: again, raw numbers comparison is too shallow to draw any useful assessments. DEN QBs threw 23 INTs in 2015. in 2013, wilson threw 9. 2015 DEN rushing game was 17th. 2013 SEA rushing game was 4th. think that might have made a bit of difference in terms of defensive performance? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 Shit, they arguably aren't even the best defense of the last 3 years. 2013 Seahawks: 4,378 yards 231 points allowed 1 shut out 39 take aways 44 sacks again, raw numbers comparison is too shallow to draw any useful assessments. DEN QBs threw 23 INTs in 2015. in 2013, wilson threw 9. 2015 DEN rushing game was 17th. 2013 SEA rushing game was 4th. think that might have made a bit of difference in terms of defensive performance? You can turn it into percentages or per play to get a better idea. 2015 Broncos: 4.4 yards per play 1 INT every 40.9 pass attempts 1 fumble recovery every 75 total plays 1 turnover total per 36 plays Gave up .30 points per snap 1 sack for every 11 pass attempts 2013 Seahawks: 4.4 yards per play 1 INT every 18.7 pass attempts 1 fumble recovery every 86 total plays 1 turnover total per 24 plays Gave up .24 points per snap 1 sack for every 12 pass attempts Edit: When you add in run vs pass information it shows that Seattle had a much better pass defense, and Denver had a slightly better front line. Seattle was much better overall when it came to stopping points and getting the ball. Double Edit: Strength of schedule, Denver's was the 10th most difficult this year, Seattle's was tied for 10th in 2013. Without going to individual game data and opponents, I would say that's about as good as it gets. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 6:38:39 PM EDT
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You can turn it into percentages or per play to get a better idea. 2015 Broncos: 4.4 yards per play 1 INT every 40.9 pass attempts 1 fumble recovery every 75 total plays1 turnover total per 36 plays Gave up .30 points per snap 1 sack for every 11 pass attempts 2013 Seahawks: 4.4 yards per play 1 INT every 18.7 pass attempts 1 fumble recovery every 86 total plays 1 turnover total per 24 plays Gave up .24 points per snap 1 sack for every 12 pass attempts Edit: When you add in run vs pass information it shows that Seattle had a much better pass defense, and Denver had a slightly better front line. Seattle was much better overall when it came to stopping points and getting the ball. Double Edit: Strength of schedule, Denver's was the 10th most difficult this year, Seattle's was tied for 10th in 2013. Without going to individual game data and opponents, I would say that's about as good as it gets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 Shit, they arguably aren't even the best defense of the last 3 years. 2013 Seahawks: 4,378 yards 231 points allowed 1 shut out 39 take aways 44 sacks again, raw numbers comparison is too shallow to draw any useful assessments. DEN QBs threw 23 INTs in 2015. in 2013, wilson threw 9. 2015 DEN rushing game was 17th. 2013 SEA rushing game was 4th. think that might have made a bit of difference in terms of defensive performance? You can turn it into percentages or per play to get a better idea. 2015 Broncos: 4.4 yards per play 1 INT every 40.9 pass attempts 1 fumble recovery every 75 total plays1 turnover total per 36 plays Gave up .30 points per snap 1 sack for every 11 pass attempts 2013 Seahawks: 4.4 yards per play 1 INT every 18.7 pass attempts 1 fumble recovery every 86 total plays 1 turnover total per 24 plays Gave up .24 points per snap 1 sack for every 12 pass attempts Edit: When you add in run vs pass information it shows that Seattle had a much better pass defense, and Denver had a slightly better front line. Seattle was much better overall when it came to stopping points and getting the ball. Double Edit: Strength of schedule, Denver's was the 10th most difficult this year, Seattle's was tied for 10th in 2013. Without going to individual game data and opponents, I would say that's about as good as it gets. i'm going to disagree. again, offense affects the defense. scoring defense is a perfect example--if your offense is consistently giving up short fields, your scoring defense is going to be substantially worse. that's just the nature of the game. look at the differential in passer rating: SEA '13: 106. DEN '15: 76 (IIRC). SEA's defense was very good, and especially good when linked with a very efficient offense. DEN didn't have that luxury. IMO, BAL is a better comparative than either CHI or SEA, because BAL's defense wasn't getting much offensive help. a better case can be made there. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 6:49:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i'm going to disagree. again, offense affects the defense. scoring defense is a perfect example--if your offense is consistently giving up short fields, your scoring defense is going to be substantially worse. that's just the nature of the game. look at the differential in passer rating: SEA '13: 106. DEN '15: 76 (IIRC). SEA's defense was very good, and especially good when linked with a very efficient offense. DEN didn't have that luxury. IMO, BAL is a better comparative than either CHI or SEA, because BAL's defense wasn't getting much offensive help. a better case can be made there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 Shit, they arguably aren't even the best defense of the last 3 years. 2013 Seahawks: 4,378 yards 231 points allowed 1 shut out 39 take aways 44 sacks again, raw numbers comparison is too shallow to draw any useful assessments. DEN QBs threw 23 INTs in 2015. in 2013, wilson threw 9. 2015 DEN rushing game was 17th. 2013 SEA rushing game was 4th. think that might have made a bit of difference in terms of defensive performance? You can turn it into percentages or per play to get a better idea. 2015 Broncos: 4.4 yards per play 1 INT every 40.9 pass attempts 1 fumble recovery every 75 total plays1 turnover total per 36 plays Gave up .30 points per snap 1 sack for every 11 pass attempts 2013 Seahawks: 4.4 yards per play 1 INT every 18.7 pass attempts 1 fumble recovery every 86 total plays 1 turnover total per 24 plays Gave up .24 points per snap 1 sack for every 12 pass attempts Edit: When you add in run vs pass information it shows that Seattle had a much better pass defense, and Denver had a slightly better front line. Seattle was much better overall when it came to stopping points and getting the ball. Double Edit: Strength of schedule, Denver's was the 10th most difficult this year, Seattle's was tied for 10th in 2013. Without going to individual game data and opponents, I would say that's about as good as it gets. i'm going to disagree. again, offense affects the defense. scoring defense is a perfect example--if your offense is consistently giving up short fields, your scoring defense is going to be substantially worse. that's just the nature of the game. look at the differential in passer rating: SEA '13: 106. DEN '15: 76 (IIRC). SEA's defense was very good, and especially good when linked with a very efficient offense. DEN didn't have that luxury. IMO, BAL is a better comparative than either CHI or SEA, because BAL's defense wasn't getting much offensive help. a better case can be made there. 2013 Seattle points per game: 18th 2015 Denver yards per game: 16th 2013 Seattle yards per game: 18th 2015 Denver defensive TDs: 5 2013 Seattle defensive TDs: 3 2015 Denver offensive play count: 1,056 2013 Seattle offensive play count: 973 2015: Denver defensive play count: 1,033 2013: Seattle defensive play count: 990 2015: Denver average starting field position offense: 26 2013: Seattle offensive starting field position offense: 31 2015: Denver average starting field position defense: 29 2013: Seattle offensive starting field position defense: 26 Seriously... They aren't that different.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:11:36 PM EDT
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. your meme said they had 64 takeaways. here it says 43. http://www.quickmeme.com/img/cf/cf2eca5aca1a658d8602c64a18f6f13463a4cb434c23b15d3123a394707e8cf5.jpg Now that's funny. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:59:47 AM EDT
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Super Bowl runner up
Athletic QB Good TE with great defense Hyped up like crazy TD celebration criticized 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:30:43 AM EDT
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Talib got fined $26,044 for his multiple penalties in the Super Bowl.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 1:27:48 PM EDT
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Super Bowl runner up Athletic QB Good TE with great defense Hyped up like crazy TD celebration criticized https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12743615_1081648688548485_8653986466179860340_n.jpg?oh=c330f5a1dcb1be7eb875d256ebc18f7e&oe=572F4C82 Reads a defense like Ray Charles. 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 1:46:29 PM EDT
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1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. And thats how Trent Diffler has a ring! |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 1:58:26 PM EDT
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The Broncos defense was great this season, but some people are taking the praise a bit too far comparing them to the 85 Bears. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12733431_1081100985269922_4843291975802972563_n.jpg?oh=edcb13e3832fc3cba33d012826207c66&oe=572D0A78 1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. And thats how Trent Diffler has a ring! To be fair though: Trent Dilfer in the 2000-01 playoffs: 590 passing yards, 3 TD's & 1 INT Tom Brady in the 2001-02 playoffs: 572 passing yards, 1 TD & 1 INT Peyton Manning in the 2015-16 playoffs: 631 passing yards, 2 TD's & 1 INT |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 2:04:11 PM EDT
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To be fair though: Trent Dilfer in the 2000-01 playoffs: 590 passing yards, 3 TD's & 1 INT Tom Brady in the 2001-02 playoffs: 572 yards yards, 1 TD & 1 INT Peyton Manning in the 2015-16 playoffs: 631 yards passing yards, 2 TD's & 1 INT Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/13/2016 2:21:13 PM EDT
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1985 Bears: Int: 34. FF: 9. Opp PPG: 12.4. Shutouts: 4 2000 Ravens: Int: 23. FF: 19. Opp PPG: 10.3. Shutouts: 4 2013 Seahawks: Int: 28. FF: 24. Opp PPG: 14.4. Shutouts: 1. And thats how Trent Diffler has a ring! To be fair though: Trent Dilfer in the 2000-01 playoffs: 590 passing yards, 3 TD's & 1 INT Tom Brady in the 2001-02 playoffs: 572 yards yards, 1 TD & 1 INT Peyton Manning in the 2015-16 playoffs: 631 yards passing yards, 2 TD's & 1 INT Yup. QB play is vastly overrated. Totally agree. Before this year, I probably would have disagreed. But Denver's SB win proved to me that QB play can be mostly irrelevant with a strong enough defense. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 2:27:15 PM EDT
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X-Ray of Jason Pierre Paul's hand:
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Posted: 2/13/2016 2:36:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryStupid fuck. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 2:44:09 PM EDT
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X-Ray of Jason Pierre Paul's hand: http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/xray.jpg Anyone who does that is a stupid fuck, but when you are a few weeks away from signing a $50M+ contract that will set you up for life and you do that then you are a special kind of stupid fuck. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 2:31:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/14/2016 2:49:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who does that is a stupid fuck, but when you are a few weeks away from signing a $50M+ contract that will set you up for life and you do that then you are a special kind of stupid fuck. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone who does that is a stupid fuck, but when you are a few weeks away from signing a $50M+ contract that will set you up for life and you do that then you are a special kind of stupid fuck. Come on, we all make mistakes. Let's not point fingers. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 2:59:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Come on, we all make mistakes. Let's not point fingers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone who does that is a stupid fuck, but when you are a few weeks away from signing a $50M+ contract that will set you up for life and you do that then you are a special kind of stupid fuck. Come on, we all make mistakes. Let's not point fingers. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 1:25:40 PM EDT
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X-Ray of Jason Pierre Paul's hand: http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/xray.jpg They call him Chubbs now. 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 2:09:57 PM EDT
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NFL Themed Valentines Day Cards:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1838465_Free_Valentines_Day_Cards__NFL_EDITION_.html |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 3:48:55 PM EDT
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Funny stuff
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Posted: 2/16/2016 5:40:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2016 3:52:07 PM EDT
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Quote Historydude... i'm convinced his head has grown over his career unless that's some serious photo shop... you know, just like bonds' head grew as he got older, too... 
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Posted: 2/16/2016 3:57:45 PM EDT
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dude... i'm convinced his head has grown over his career unless that's some serious photo shop... you know, just like bonds' head grew as he got older, too... Quote HistoryQuoted:
dude... i'm convinced his head has grown over his career unless that's some serious photo shop... you know, just like bonds' head grew as he got older, too... And Sosa. |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 4:07:40 PM EDT
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dude... i'm convinced his head has grown over his career unless that's some serious photo shop... you know, just like bonds' head grew as he got older, too... Quote HistoryQuoted:
dude... i'm convinced his head has grown over his career unless that's some serious photo shop... you know, just like bonds' head grew as he got older, too... Bonds' whole head got bigger. With Manning though it seems like it might just be his forehead. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 3:34:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:05:32 PM EDT
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HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Has retired.  Heath Miller THE BEST tight end!!!!!! |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:12:54 PM EDT
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HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Has retired.
Heath Miller THE BEST tight end!!!!!! 
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:12:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Has retired. Heath Miller THE BEST tight end!!!!!! |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Has retired. Heath Miller THE BEST tight end!!!!!! haha, fuck the Squealers |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 3:21:24 AM EDT
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Eagles gave Sam Bradford a two year deal worth $36M with $26M guaranteed.
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Posted: 3/2/2016 4:02:20 AM EDT
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Eagles gave Sam Bradford a two year deal worth $36M with $26M guaranteed. Last season Bradford was tied for 25th in passer rating. Iirc he turned down a 4 year. $80 mil contract last year too... 
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Posted: 3/2/2016 6:26:01 AM EDT
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There just aren't enough starting QBs in the league. Unfortunately, if they don't sign Bradford, who are they gonna start? Hell, Alex Smith is on 17m a year. Matt Ryan is on 20.75m/yr. Flacco is on 20.1.
Either they pay out for Bradford or they sign Kaep or RG3 or Manziel or someone lol |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 7:50:00 AM EDT
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As an Eagles fan I ma happy with the deal. Its the best "Right now option". 13 Million guaranteed a year for 2 years, is relatively affordable for a starting QB. The draft class this year for QBS is less than stellar, and there is really no there good option in FA.
It builds continuity, it will work for this year and next. |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 12:38:25 PM EDT
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As an Eagles fan I ma happy with the deal. Its the best "Right now option". 13 Million guaranteed a year for 2 years, is relatively affordable for a starting QB. The draft class this year for QBS is less than stellar, and there is really no there good option in FA. It builds continuity, it will work for this year and next. Many Eagles fans were "happy with the deal" they gave Murray as well. 
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Posted: 3/2/2016 3:43:45 PM EDT
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Many Eagles fans were "happy with the deal" they gave Murray as well.
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As an Eagles fan I ma happy with the deal. Its the best "Right now option". 13 Million guaranteed a year for 2 years, is relatively affordable for a starting QB. The draft class this year for QBS is less than stellar, and there is really no there good option in FA. It builds continuity, it will work for this year and next. Many Eagles fans were "happy with the deal" they gave Murray as well.
Many were--I wasn't, he was overpaid when he was with Dallas. Injury prone, and a product of an amazing Offensive line. |
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Posted: 3/2/2016 3:44:12 PM EDT
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Eagles gave Sam Bradford a two year deal worth $36M with $26M guaranteed. Last season Bradford was tied for 25th in passer rating. Can't blame that one on ol' Krazy Kelly. 
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Posted: 3/2/2016 9:00:36 PM EDT
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Patriots released stone hands Lafell. Now all the New England talk will be finding a big receiver for Brady.
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Posted: 3/2/2016 9:07:02 PM EDT
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Patriots released stone hands Lafell. Now all the New England talk will be finding a big receiver for Brady. Brady is going to be the next oldest guy to win a superbowl.
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Posted: 3/2/2016 9:32:03 PM EDT
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I'm not a Falcons fan but the Roddy White release is a bit surprising, or no?
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