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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS troof. I can't wait to get out. 534 days to go, but who is counting |
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No all white males are being kicked out cause racism and patriarchy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They will start by booting EVERYONE with tattoos....inkies beware! No all white males are being kicked out cause racism and patriarchy. Cool, a slave army, just like the Persians used to do.... |
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So we're gonna cut 4000 or so per active Division
That's smart, now if they cut a good bit out of TRADOC it will be less If they offered a get out in 30 days to every soldier, that number will be met In 2 months |
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Remember the 80's when we had 18 divisions? I'd put money that the 80's military would kick the shit out of today's.
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A buddy of mine has a son who is an army O-5, and a daughter who is a navy O-4.
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So we're gonna cut 4000 or so per active Division That's smart, now if they cut a good bit out of TRADOC it will be less If they offered a get out in 30 days to every soldier, that number will be met In 2 months View Quote That is generous. If they offered it right now 35-40% people I know would take it. |
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS View Quote 4 years, 6 months, and 10 days. Not that I'm counting. |
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Quoted: The writing was on the wall in 2009/2010 for me. My brother stayed in and has 13 years in. He's been contemplating civillian options. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS The writing was on the wall in 2009/2010 for me. My brother stayed in and has 13 years in. He's been contemplating civillian options. In 8 months I get $2937 just to wake up with a heartbeat Enough for house, two new cars and utilities for the rest of my life. Not counting whatever I get for disability for jumping 21 yrs And I'm only $21k in debt as of today with paid off land. Still gonna work, but if I just make a extra $1500 a month I will live a very happy life. Even better will be SS if it's still there in 16 yrs |
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Quoted: Quoted: The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS troof. I can't wait to get out. One day you will be free of power point purgatory |
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Could it be part of Obamas plan to try and leave office with an annual balanced budget, never mind national security.
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That is generous. If they offered it right now 35-40% people I know would take it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So we're gonna cut 4000 or so per active Division That's smart, now if they cut a good bit out of TRADOC it will be less If they offered a get out in 30 days to every soldier, that number will be met In 2 months That is generous. If they offered it right now 35-40% people I know would take it. I could not agree more. I'd say it's much higher than 35-40%, even with the crappy civilian economy these people would be entering. Morale is absolutely in the dumps from my observations. I'd wager they would have 40K people that would be willing to leave at the drop of a hat. The problem is, the people that want to get out are the people we should be keeping and massive amounts of useless dead weight will stay and move into leadership positions. The entire situations is one big sh*t sandwich. Even those of us that are Army civilians have about had it with all the BS. I think more than half of our time is now dedicated to SHARP, suicide training, DAU, CLPs, EEOC silliness and now I hear we are going to be required to go to sensitivity training for LBGT acceptance or some BS like that next year. |
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I feel the same way Sir One day you will be free of power point purgatory View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS troof. I can't wait to get out. One day you will be free of power point purgatory Actually, I won't. I am going to be a civilian instructor. I'll see if I can stand it on the other side. |
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Our soldiers are getting thrown under the bus again. And yet no talk of getting rid of the 30+ million (and climbing) illegal aliens sucking our social services, schools, jails, hospitals and other taxpayer funded institutions dry. No talk of cutting foreign aid, welfare, section 8, EBT, SNAP, TANF, WIC, Obama phones, corporate welfare or tax payer funded bailouts for too big to fail banks. Maybe we should consider cutting all the useless, unauthorized, duplicate and bloated Gov agencies in DC first before we even think about cutting the military and direct support DoD civilians. I have a very bad feeling in the near future we are going to witness something absolutely catastrophic happen to our once proud, strong and moral country. We are witnessing this republic slowly commit national suicide and I don’t know if we are going to be able to recover. View Quote Ummm. This is exactly why they are cutting the forces. To fund the FSA. It isn't exactly a surprise. |
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I'll just leave this here. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15164380/force%20structure.png View Quote There is not one reserve division in the Marine Corps, 4th Marine Division is not a war-fighting organization its a force provider to augment the Active Divisions. |
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There is not one reserve division in the Marine Corps, 4th Marine Division is not a war-fighting organization its a force provider to augment the Active Divisions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll just leave this here. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15164380/force%20structure.png There is not one reserve division in the Marine Corps, 4th Marine Division is not a war-fighting organization its a force provider to augment the Active Divisions. Arguably the same is true in the army. a few brigades could deploy independently, but not for MCO operations. guard combat units bring some good capabilities. MCO isn't one of them. |
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http://news.yahoo.com/u-army-cut-40-000-troops-over-next-195427792.html The U.S. Army plans to cut 40,000 troops over the next two years, affecting all its domestic and foreign posts, USA Today reported on Tuesday, citing a plan it said was due to be announced this week. It said the plan also called for cutting 17,000 civilian employees, it added. View Quote I'm sure they'll start with the women and the gays. /s |
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Actually, I won't. I am going to be a civilian instructor. I'll see if I can stand it on the other side. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS troof. I can't wait to get out. One day you will be free of power point purgatory Actually, I won't. I am going to be a civilian instructor. I'll see if I can stand it on the other side. Civilian instructor for the military? |
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS View Quote That is by design as well. |
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We don't count. As for the cuts, how does this surprise anyone? We have a liberal POTUS, that has "successfully" won two wars. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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40,000 more people looking for jobs over the next two years! Fucking brilliant! We don't count. As for the cuts, how does this surprise anyone? We have a liberal POTUS, that has "successfully" won two wars. And a gay man having butt sex leads from behind. |
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS View Quote In 2008-9 I was in the ISAF intel shop in Bagram. I was having a discussion with the young E-4s-E-6s of the 101st who were very surprised that I opposed the generous GI Bill benefits being offered by the John McCain sponsored bill. All they could see was drawing the equivalent of their active duty pay to just go to college. I told them that, in ten years, we will look back at it and call it the "Broken NCO Corps Act of 2008." I asked them to identify the best and the brightest young troops in the section, then ask if they are re-upping or going to college the first chance they get. Then I asked them to identify which of them were probably going to reenlist and whether those guys were the best and the brightest. "So, in about five or six years, all the good and smart guys will be graduating from college, and only the duds will have reenlisted and therefore become all the squad leaders and platoon sergeants?" |
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In 2008-9 I was in the ISAF intel shop in Bagram. I was having a discussion with the young E-4s-E-6s of the 101st who were very surprised that I opposed the generous GI Bill benefits being offered by the John McCain sponsored bill. All they could see was drawing the equivalent of their active duty pay to just go to college. I told them that, in ten years, we will look back at it and call it the "Broken NCO Corps Act of 2008." I asked them to identify the best and the brightest young troops in the section, then ask if they are re-upping or going to college the first chance they get. Then I asked them to identify which of them were probably going to reenlist and whether those guys were the best and the brightest. "So, in about five or six years, all the good and smart guys will be graduating from college, and only the duds will have reenlisted and therefore become all the squad leaders and platoon sergeants?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS In 2008-9 I was in the ISAF intel shop in Bagram. I was having a discussion with the young E-4s-E-6s of the 101st who were very surprised that I opposed the generous GI Bill benefits being offered by the John McCain sponsored bill. All they could see was drawing the equivalent of their active duty pay to just go to college. I told them that, in ten years, we will look back at it and call it the "Broken NCO Corps Act of 2008." I asked them to identify the best and the brightest young troops in the section, then ask if they are re-upping or going to college the first chance they get. Then I asked them to identify which of them were probably going to reenlist and whether those guys were the best and the brightest. "So, in about five or six years, all the good and smart guys will be graduating from college, and only the duds will have reenlisted and therefore become all the squad leaders and platoon sergeants?" That said, they are still American troops and deserve respect. I do hear you , |
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS View Quote 11.5 years of AD and I'm taking a 25% pay cut and punching out in a few months. 8.5 more years of carrying dead weight? Being a part of the "transition" that leaves us not ready for the next thing? No thanks. |
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So we're gonna cut 4000 or so per active Division That's smart, now if they cut a good bit out of TRADOC it will be less If they offered a get out in 30 days to every soldier, that number will be met In 2 months View Quote Have you seen anywhere in TRADOC that is fat on personnel? I haven't. This was the answer during the height of the war, rob TRADOC. The biggest amount of fat is in the staff/headquarters. There's a little fat in a BCT HQ (5-10%), a good amount in a division (probably 20%), and a ton in every staff above Division (probably 40-60%). The mil leadership is counting down to the next election. They are trying to retain as many senior officers and NCOs as possible, because they take longer/cost more to replace. |
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11.5 years of AD and I'm taking a 25% pay cut and punching out in a few months. 8.5 more years of carrying dead weight? Being a part of the "transition" that leaves us not ready for the next thing? No thanks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS 11.5 years of AD and I'm taking a 25% pay cut and punching out in a few months. 8.5 more years of carrying dead weight? Being a part of the "transition" that leaves us not ready for the next thing? No thanks. The thought of going to a real war in the next 10 years terrifies me. |
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Guess you missed the "and 17,000 civilian employees." They are federal employees too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In other news, federal employment sees a steady increase! Guess you missed the "and 17,000 civilian employees." They are federal employees too. They might cut 17,000 DA civilians, but I'd bet money you see DHS, IRS, EPA, OSHA, NHTSA, FDA, FCC, CPSC, name-any-other-useless bureaucratic-regulatory-organization gaining at least triple that in good socialist party members. |
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Yeah, this is just a temporary gig for me until I find something better.
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS troof. I can't wait to get out. the Leftists hate the military and considered it a threat so now they are systematically eliminating the threat...... think about it Hollywood hates the US military The news media hates the US military Leftist progressives hate the US military Much of the civilian population does not support the US military its worse than the 1970s |
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS troof. I can't wait to get out. One day you will be free of power point purgatory Actually, I won't. I am going to be a civilian instructor. I'll see if I can stand it on the other side. Civilian instructor for the military? Ft. Monmouth had oodles of them. (but that was a very long time ago) |
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The way things are going 40k will be leaving on their own. Hardly any soldiers are reuping, they are taking their college money and running. Hell my old company on has one E7 PSG and a E7 First SGT. soldiers are fed up and the senior guys are just waiting until they hit 20yrs. Sick of sharp, trannys, soon to be female Infantry PLs and other assorted BS troof. I can't wait to get out. Did the surge and new dawn - saw enough bullshit between and then got stoplossed to boot. So glad I got out |
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Our soldiers are getting thrown under the bus again. And yet no talk of getting rid of the 30+ million (and climbing) illegal aliens sucking our social services, schools, jails, hospitals and other taxpayer funded institutions dry. No talk of cutting foreign aid, welfare, section 8, EBT, SNAP, TANF, WIC, Obama phones, corporate welfare or tax payer funded bailouts for too big to fail banks. Maybe we should consider cutting all the useless, unauthorized, duplicate and bloated Gov agencies in DC first before we even think about cutting the military and direct support DoD civilians. I have a very bad feeling in the near future we are going to witness something absolutely catastrophic happen to our once proud, strong and moral country. We are witnessing this republic slowly commit national suicide and I don’t know if we are going to be able to recover. View Quote Those 40k soldiers don't vote for the Democrats (most likely) like those illegals and FSA do. You know this, man. |
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