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Right up front... I have OCD and have been treated decades for it. I went to see the doc today (new one at the office) to get my medicine refilled. He wants to know if I'm a hoarder. I tell him I am. He wants to know what I hoard. I tell him guns and watches. He wants to know how many guns I have. I tell him "lots" and as many watches. He keeps pressing and pressing for me to tell him exactly how many guns I have. I finally told him I'm not going to say anything more than "lots". What is it any of his business HOW MANY guns I possess?? What is he fishing for? Your thoughts appreciated!! The number of guns you have by the sounds of it. Very inciteful of you. What does that word mean? I see what he did there, even if he doesn't |
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Right up front... I have OCD and have been treated decades for it. I went to see the doc today (new one at the office) to get my medicine refilled. He wants to know if I'm a hoarder. I tell him I am. He wants to know what I hoard. I tell him guns and watches. He wants to know how many guns I have. I tell him "lots" and as many watches. He keeps pressing and pressing for me to tell him exactly how many guns I have. I finally told him I'm not going to say anything more than "lots". What is it any of his business HOW MANY guns I possess?? What is he fishing for? Your thoughts appreciated!! View Quote hide them under the watches |
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You told him you are a "hoarder" but it sounds like you just like to buy a lot of guns and watches. He is probably trying to determine if your self diagnosis is correct. Are there mountains of guns and watches waiting to collapse in every room of your house? Are you OCD in the way that results in a super clean and organized house?
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Arfcom GD: My psychiatrist examined my gun collection and noted on my chart that I am cheap and stingy reloader, mainly because I have fewer than 30 guns. Is he bored and trolling me, or is this an important deficit in my psychological gun health? If you decide to cite any insightful incidents, I would be most appreciative. Am I being cited in this thread for not having quite the 30 requisite guns, or am I free to leave? OP, find out what caliber your Doc. has decided is the minimum for self defense. If he says .25 auto, get 2nd opinion. |
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Quoted: I guess I really should have just kept my mouth shut and said I don't. "Hoarding" means to me acquiring stuff I don't really want or need but I get it, none-the-less. Yes, I do "collect" firearms and watches. No, they do not overrun my house. View Quote Don't worry about clarifying to GD, clarify that to the doc. |
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Your shrink appears to be a discerning gun dude. He's obviously concerned that you aren't trying hard enough. Buy more guns to impress him, and get back to us when he's satisfied. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Arfcom GD: My psychiatrist examined my gun collection and noted on my chart that I am cheap and stingy reloader, mainly because I have fewer than 30 guns. Is he bored and trolling me, or is this an important deficit in my psychological gun health? If you decide to cite any insightful incidents, I would be most appreciative. Your shrink appears to be a discerning gun dude. He's obviously concerned that you aren't trying hard enough. Buy more guns to impress him, and get back to us when he's satisfied. Truly, having "enough guns" has been a lifelong pursuit. I thought I had a bunch, till the 30 figure was mentioned. Now I see that it was all just a self serving, psychological delusion Forming brass for Swedish Mauser and .45 ACP shotshells is the closest I came recently to losing my mind. I wanna know what Freud says 10mm shooters are trying to compensate for |
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How do you know? Have you been in his house? Did he state how much ammo and guns he has and whether he uses them? Yes, even large collections can be "hoarding." I doubt you know his circumstances, he's too afraid to tell his doctor he sure as hell won't post it here out of paranoia. Edit: This thread serves simply to affirm OP's confirmation bias. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You sir are a collector, not a hoarder. One of the few times when dishonesty is the best policy is when the government is asking about your guns. How do you know? Have you been in his house? Did he state how much ammo and guns he has and whether he uses them? Yes, even large collections can be "hoarding." I doubt you know his circumstances, he's too afraid to tell his doctor he sure as hell won't post it here out of paranoia. Edit: This thread serves simply to affirm OP's confirmation bias. Because when the .gov is asking about your guns, the answer is always "NO". No further information is needed. |
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You sir are a collector, not a hoarder. One of the few times when dishonesty is the best policy is when the government is asking about your guns. How do you know? Have you been in his house? Did he state how much ammo and guns he has and whether he uses them? Yes, even large collections can be "hoarding." I doubt you know his circumstances, he's too afraid to tell his doctor he sure as hell won't post it here out of paranoia. Edit: This thread serves simply to affirm OP's confirmation bias. Because when the .gov is asking about your guns, the answer is always "NO". No further information is needed. Strange, I thought it was a psychiatrist that was asking, not the government. Don't go to a guy to get help if you don't want help. |
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Many people don't understand 10-15 AR15s as being normal. View Quote I still don't see that as normal. Why do you have that many? Lots of different calibers, different configurations? Are they different, the same, etc. Talk me through the rationale that's behind owning a bunch of a non-consumable which are seemingly the same. |
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I wanna know what Freud says 10mm shooters are trying to compensate for View Quote That fat fucking rim on the 357 Magnum. Damned things don't stack for shit. |
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I still don't see that as normal. Why do you have that many? Lots of different calibers, different configurations? Are they different, the same, etc. Talk me through the rationale that's behind owning a bunch of a non-consumable which are seemingly the same. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Many people don't understand 10-15 AR15s as being normal. I still don't see that as normal. Why do you have that many? Lots of different calibers, different configurations? Are they different, the same, etc. Talk me through the rationale that's behind owning a bunch of a non-consumable which are seemingly the same. Pretty much it. Various different calibers. 7.5", 8.5", 10.5", 12.5", 14.5" 16", 18", 20", 22", 24" bbls available, in all kinds of different barrel profiles, fluted, etc. Pistol, carbine, midlength gas systems. Adj. stocks vs. fixed stocks. Once you get started assembling them, it's hard to stop because you keep learning and getting deeper into it. It's very spiritual and brings one closer to the Universe. |
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He's going to hit you up for some 22 ammo.
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Pretty much it. Various different calibers. 7.5", 8.5", 10.5", 12.5", 14.5" 16", 18", 20", 22", 24" bbls available, in all kinds of different barrel profiles, fluted, etc. Pistol, carbine, midlength gas systems. Adj. stocks vs. fixed stocks. Once you get started assembling them, it's hard to stop because you keep learning and getting deeper into it. It's very spiritual and brings one closer to the Universe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Many people don't understand 10-15 AR15s as being normal. I still don't see that as normal. Why do you have that many? Lots of different calibers, different configurations? Are they different, the same, etc. Talk me through the rationale that's behind owning a bunch of a non-consumable which are seemingly the same. Pretty much it. Various different calibers. 7.5", 8.5", 10.5", 12.5", 14.5" 16", 18", 20", 22", 24" bbls available, in all kinds of different barrel profiles, fluted, etc. Pistol, carbine, midlength gas systems. Adj. stocks vs. fixed stocks. Once you get started assembling them, it's hard to stop because you keep learning and getting deeper into it. It's very spiritual and brings one closer to the Universe. Hey, it's a reason. I'm not there yet, I guess. I've got one assembled AR and two complete lowers. Planning on SBRing one of the lowers eventually, but not really sure what to do with the other. I am not a very good AR owner. |
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You sir are a collector, not a hoarder. One of the few times when dishonesty is the best policy is when the government is asking about your guns. How do you know? Have you been in his house? Did he state how much ammo and guns he has and whether he uses them? Yes, even large collections can be "hoarding." I doubt you know his circumstances, he's too afraid to tell his doctor he sure as hell won't post it here out of paranoia. Edit: This thread serves simply to affirm OP's confirmation bias. Because when the .gov is asking about your guns, the answer is always "NO". No further information is needed. That is universally true. This situation, however, is a private individual seeking out a private doctor in order to seek medical treatment for a mental issue. The worst thing you can do is shrink (no pun intended) away from a possible catharsis. New doctor wants to get a baseline on his new-to-him patient. I don't see the issue other than "can't tuch muh guns!!!!" |
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I still don't see that as normal. Why do you have that many? Lots of different calibers, different configurations? Are they different, the same, etc. Talk me through the rationale that's behind owning a bunch of a non-consumable which are seemingly the same. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Many people don't understand 10-15 AR15s as being normal. I still don't see that as normal. Why do you have that many? Lots of different calibers, different configurations? Are they different, the same, etc. Talk me through the rationale that's behind owning a bunch of a non-consumable which are seemingly the same. This isn't about "normal" in that sense, it's normality in regards to his patient. What's the baseline? Does his patient seek to blow every last dime on these items and suffer elsewhere, financially? Does he stack them deep for no other reason than just to have them? When an OCD patient is asked about hoarding and what possible items he might consider hoarding and how many that entails and all he obfuscates with is "lots," what do you think that leads the doctor to believe? OP has already established he has guns. Already established he has mental issues (albeit probably nothing serious.) Already established the amount is "lots." Now his paranoia won't state an exact number or even an estimate... as if there wasn't enough information already disseminated to his doctor (and now an internet gun board with government agents reading.) He just wants confirmation bias on being no use to himself. Way to go, OP, way to go. |
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I just got back from a boat outing with all my guns. I had an accident and they all went overboard. I don't have any guns anymore... but still have a lot of watches!!
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Why do feel the need to share your private information with strangers who document everything? View Quote Now hang on a minute. Only 1 Arfcommer has ever admitted to keeping a spreadsheet. To suggest that we document everything is a bit presumptuous. Sure, Goatboy documents everything, but I wouldn't worry about that. |
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Right up front... I have OCD and have been treated decades for it. I went to see the doc today (new one at the office) to get my medicine refilled. He wants to know if I'm a hoarder. I tell him I am. He wants to know what I hoard. I tell him guns and watches. He wants to know how many guns I have. I tell him "lots" and as many watches. He keeps pressing and pressing for me to tell him exactly how many guns I have. I finally told him I'm not going to say anything more than "lots". What is it any of his business HOW MANY guns I possess?? What is he fishing for? Your thoughts appreciated!! The number of guns you have by the sounds of it. Very inciteful of you. What does that word mean? Hes,going to start a riot? |
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Just tell 'em some outrageous number, like one hundred billion.
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When I was younger, I went to my GP and, during a physical, he asked me if I ever drank alcohol. I said yes. After that, my chart read that I was an alcoholic for years.
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What is the mandatory minimum # of guns that psychologically healthy people should have?
Is it crazy to reload, when 9mm is $14/box? OP, how many fingers am I holding up? |
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Right up front... I have OCD and have been treated decades for it. I went to see the doc today (new one at the office) to get my medicine refilled. He wants to know if I'm a hoarder. I tell him I am. He wants to know what I hoard. I tell him guns and watches. He wants to know how many guns I have. I tell him "lots" and as many watches. He keeps pressing and pressing for me to tell him exactly how many guns I have. I finally told him I'm not going to say anything more than "lots". What is it any of his business HOW MANY guns I possess?? What is he fishing for? Your thoughts appreciated!! The number of guns you have by the sounds of it. Very inciteful of you. What does that word mean? Stop enturbulating |
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I collect as many as I can to keep them out of the hands of crazy liberals and off the streets.
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It's 2015 in Obama's fundamentally changed America. Honesty is not always the best policy anymore.
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When I was younger, I went to my GP and, during a physical, he asked me if I ever drank alcohol. I said yes. After that, my chart read that I was an alcoholic for years. I learned, quickly, to watch what I said. View Quote Wheeeee Any drinking = Alcoholism The list of things I have to remember to lie about grows every year. I can't keep track. |
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Right up front... I have OCD and have been treated decades for it. I went to see the doc today (new one at the office) to get my medicine refilled. He wants to know if I'm a hoarder. I tell him I am. He wants to know what I hoard. I tell him guns and watches. He wants to know how many guns I have. I tell him "lots" and as many watches. He keeps pressing and pressing for me to tell him exactly how many guns I have. I finally told him I'm not going to say anything more than "lots". What is it any of his business HOW MANY guns I possess?? What is he fishing for? Your thoughts appreciated!! The number of guns you have by the sounds of it. Very inciteful of you. No he is being insightful; whereas this troll thread is intended to be inciteful. If this weren't a troll thread what the psychiatrist would have been trying to determine is how many firearms you own so that in the event he decides to turn that information over to law enforcement they can be certain to get them all. |
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Wheeeee Any drinking = Alcoholism The list of things I have to remember to lie about grows every year. I can't keep track. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When I was younger, I went to my GP and, during a physical, he asked me if I ever drank alcohol. I said yes. After that, my chart read that I was an alcoholic for years. I learned, quickly, to watch what I said. Wheeeee Any drinking = Alcoholism The list of things I have to remember to lie about grows every year. I can't keep track. How long until they make it a felony to lie under obama care |
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You should have asked him what his wife's favorite position is and does she swallow. If this is a serious question that sneaky fuck was collecting information for people that aren't your friends. STFU, it's nobody's business, especially some turd that with a stroke of a pen can declare you unstable. Shrinks are pill pushing wack jobs that can ESAD. The divorce rate is high in that profession as their own wives can't stand those over analyzing, under acting milktoasts. The guy outside buffing the floors can give you better feedback on your problems.
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“Access to firearms is an important factor for clinicians to consider in any risk assessment of suicidal patients. Miller and Hemenway report that “in 2005, an average of 46 Americans a day committed suicide with a firearm, accounting for 53% of all completed suicides.”… All discussions with the patient and his or her family regarding firearms should be documented. When clinicians are doing a psychiatric examination of suicidal patients, they should inquire about the availability of firearms in the household. If a firearm is available, concerns about safety should be raised with the family and police. This is particularly true when children and adolescents reside in the household.”2 Yeah okay whatever. Below is a hypothetical. Suppose if I was gonna do it maybe I would rent a nice convertible. Lay a coil of rope in the back seat with one end tied around a telephone pole and the other end around my neck. Then just floor it... after maybe 300ft of slack rope(should no knots tangle the line) the car should be doing 60+ mph. At that point inertia should do a nice job of leaving the car to be piloted by a headless corpse. That is the type of shit, no my idea but rather a notable snopes worthy idea, that happens when people get real creative about suicide and want to send a message. Dont need a gun even if that is the easiest thing to find. People who are serious are gonna do it. Bigger clues are when people start talking about finality and the end then you see them doing things like giving away prized possessions or doing bucket list type crap. If a hoarder suddenly started clearing out their shit because they didnt want to be a burden to survivors, probably the biggest clue of all. So many stupid fixations on firearms, yeah the stats are there showing it is the most common instrument. But how many were showing ideation and other clues before they acted? Given the successful ones usually dont vocalize it and cry out for help, they often do it with people often saying "there were no signs." In some cases true but not all. |
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Pretty much it. Various different calibers. 7.5", 8.5", 10.5", 12.5", 14.5" 16", 18", 20", 22", 24" bbls available, in all kinds of different barrel profiles, fluted, etc. Pistol, carbine, midlength gas systems. Adj. stocks vs. fixed stocks. Once you get started assembling them, it's hard to stop because you keep learning and getting deeper into it. It's very spiritual and brings one closer to the Universe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Many people don't understand 10-15 AR15s as being normal. I still don't see that as normal. Why do you have that many? Lots of different calibers, different configurations? Are they different, the same, etc. Talk me through the rationale that's behind owning a bunch of a non-consumable which are seemingly the same. Pretty much it. Various different calibers. 7.5", 8.5", 10.5", 12.5", 14.5" 16", 18", 20", 22", 24" bbls available, in all kinds of different barrel profiles, fluted, etc. Pistol, carbine, midlength gas systems. Adj. stocks vs. fixed stocks. Once you get started assembling them, it's hard to stop because you keep learning and getting deeper into it. It's very spiritual and brings one closer to the Universe. Better ARs than swords... And once you get a new upper you might as well get a complete lower to go with it as it isnt that much more to build. |
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You should have asked him what his wife's favorite position is and does she swallow. If this is a serious question that sneaky fuck was collecting information for people that aren't your friends. STFU, it's nobody's business, especially some turd that with a stroke of a pen can declare you unstable. Shrinks are pill pushing wack jobs that can ESAD. The divorce rate is high in that profession as their own wives can't stand those over analyzing, under acting milktoasts. The guy outside buffing the floors can give you better feedback on your problems. View Quote My dad graduated from St. Louis University med school in the early 60s and he always told 'we' kids the story that he had four suicides in his class over the four years and they were all the psychiatry students. Always said they got into it to psychoanalyze themselves first and then others. I believe that they serve a purpose and that there is such a thing as mental illness, but you have to be careful with that lot. I have no problem with what the OP's doctor asked given OP's circumstance and him visiting a shrink. CYA in today's climate. Chris |
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You brought up hoarding, and guns, in the context of being OCD - and it's the psychiatrists fault for trying to evaluate the extent of your hoarding & OCD?
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How do you know? Have you been in his house? Did he state how much ammo and guns he has and whether he uses them? Yes, even large collections can be "hoarding." I doubt you know his circumstances, he's too afraid to tell his doctor he sure as hell won't post it here out of paranoia. Edit: This thread serves simply to affirm OP's confirmation bias. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You sir are a collector, not a hoarder. One of the few times when dishonesty is the best policy is when the government is asking about your guns. How do you know? Have you been in his house? Did he state how much ammo and guns he has and whether he uses them? Yes, even large collections can be "hoarding." I doubt you know his circumstances, he's too afraid to tell his doctor he sure as hell won't post it here out of paranoia. Edit: This thread serves simply to affirm OP's confirmation bias. Confirmation bias refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one tends to notice and to look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts one's beliefs. I think we've found the OP's psychiatrist. Please don't tell Obama about his guns. He's just a collector with OCD, not a crazy hoarder. If you don't believe me, check out how clean his collection is. |
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My dad graduated from St. Louis University med school in the early 60s and he always told 'we' kids the story that he had four suicides in his class over the four years and they were all the psychiatry students. Always said they got into it to psychoanalyze themselves first and then others. I believe that they serve a purpose and that there is such a thing as mental illness, but you have to be careful with that lot. I have no problem with what the OP's doctor asked given OP's circumstance and him visiting a shrink. CYA in today's climate. Chris View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You should have asked him what his wife's favorite position is and does she swallow. If this is a serious question that sneaky fuck was collecting information for people that aren't your friends. STFU, it's nobody's business, especially some turd that with a stroke of a pen can declare you unstable. Shrinks are pill pushing wack jobs that can ESAD. The divorce rate is high in that profession as their own wives can't stand those over analyzing, under acting milktoasts. The guy outside buffing the floors can give you better feedback on your problems. My dad graduated from St. Louis University med school in the early 60s and he always told 'we' kids the story that he had four suicides in his class over the four years and they were all the psychiatry students. Always said they got into it to psychoanalyze themselves first and then others. I believe that they serve a purpose and that there is such a thing as mental illness, but you have to be careful with that lot. I have no problem with what the OP's doctor asked given OP's circumstance and him visiting a shrink. CYA in today's climate. Chris i dated a psychiatry med student, now a post residency neurologist, who fits the mold. she hated guns(also liberal vegetarian). One day she gives me some bullshit hypothetical about "what if we were married and had just had a kid and you came home and you found me sitting on the edge of the bed holding one of your guns and crying and I said I was post pardon and." Yes I deliberately put all those "ands" into the quote. she was probing. Next words out of her mouth was to ask me if I would get rid of my guns because she was post pardon suicidal. What the fuck? We hadnt even screwed or kissed yet(religious reasons as to why her seal was intact). That was a "who turned on the bat shit signal" moment for me. I fell in love with her, hard, still fucked up over it. Having a relationship with somebody who has been EDUCATED TO FUCK WITH MINDS is a dangerous thing. She definitely had her own shit going on that made for a real handful if you called her on it. She did a lot of studies on suicide and currently works with elderly patients. |
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well when he asked what you hoard you said guns. He is simply trying to quantify it. Do you have 200,000 which would be hoarding or do you have 20 you have a large hobby.. You opened your self up for it. Should have just stuck with watches.
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Look guys! I've seen the same doctor for years but today, because I needed a refill of meds, I had to see a different ("new") doctor. I didn't go to spill my guts or shoot off my mouth. I just went for an Rx. He asked... I answered. Live and learn!!
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