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Posted: 7/6/2015 1:42:58 AM EDT
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Damn in the good old days, if we had the green ID card we could drink underage. I have a...ugh..friend that would turn a blind eye if he saw a military ID and if I he thought you weren't going to be an ass about it. Something tells me OP has an ulterior motive for his post. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 1:50:42 AM EDT
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Contact his command and CDAR and see if they can convince him to self refer to work life for an alcohol screening before they go the other route and order it. It really is for the best and while he might not like you much a fathers job is not necessarily to be liked. You do love your son, don't you?
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:14:47 AM EDT
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IMHO, you are being a good father!
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:32:31 AM EDT
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IMHO, you are being a good father! How? letting some arbitrary number determine whether or not a serviceman can drink in a controlled environment? Yeah, great parenting 
Lets not forget that everywhere else he may go has lower, to no age limit. So let him figure it out all on his own |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:43:44 AM EDT
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That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. It's your call, but it's a good chance to set an example of a responsible drinker. Drink a quality beer/s, but don't drink too many or too fast. Alcohol in moderation can have some health benefits and if it was just one beer you might not even feel any effect from the alcohol. Smoking anything is not good for you that's the difference. I have never smoked anything. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:47:57 AM EDT
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Wants a beer. Told him it was illegal. No beer for you. I bet he brings home a Palestinian girl next time. That's what I did
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:50:59 AM EDT
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That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. Oh ffs you can't compare the two. The base commander can lower the drinking age on base to 18 if he so desires. I've seen it done on July 4th. There's nothing wrong with having a beer. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:53:57 AM EDT
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I'm going to go ahead and say he has already have a beer or two on his own.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 3:14:13 AM EDT
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My uncle gave me home brewed beer when I was 10yo in 1979. The year Jimmy Peanut signed the law legalizing it.
Drank beer running a front loader at the family friends junkyard long before I was old enough to legally drive to. Fuck your Progressive morals and laws. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 3:22:54 AM EDT
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I took my two sons out to the bar when they turned 18, the oldest is now 25 and the youngest son is now 23 years old. My wife came and picked us up
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Posted: 7/6/2015 3:27:21 AM EDT
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Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J This for sure... |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 3:34:14 AM EDT
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In tis thread I am suppose to believe that the OP has never knowingly ignored any law....
Hey OP, wouldn't it be great if a father decided when his son became a man and didn't look to some bureaucracy to decide for him? |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 3:35:56 AM EDT
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Oh jeez. It's his kid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He wanted to have a beer responsibly with his old man while on leave from the .mil and you turned him down? I hope he doesn't get deployed before 21 and you end up regretting that. Oh jeez. It's his kid. And he posted about it and got responses, as I'm sure he intended seeing this is a discussion forum. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 3:43:36 AM EDT
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Agreed, sort of a harsh comment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He wanted to have a beer responsibly with his old man while on leave from the .mil and you turned him down? I hope he doesn't get deployed before 21 and you end up regretting that. Oh jeez. It's his kid. What's harsh about it? If he's deployed when he turns 21 and can't have a beer with his old man on his bday, it would be a shame if he missed a good opportunity to have a brew with him responsibly one on one prior to. According to the OP, his son is rotating out. Hope his b day is before that so a servicemember can enjoy a brew with his dad instead of him being concerned about an arbitrary number that the law assigned. Dick move dad, sorry. He's earned that beer. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 4:38:22 AM EDT
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Wants a beer. Told him it was illegal. No beer for you. You're a DICK! |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 4:54:14 AM EDT
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I'd give the kid a beer.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 5:04:58 AM EDT
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 Really
And just listen to you goody 2 shoes on here, it's illegal, BS. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 5:09:27 AM EDT
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You know, in Wisconsin you can buy your kid a drink at a bar at 16 as long as they're under your supervision
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Posted: 7/6/2015 5:19:32 AM EDT
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You know, in Wisconsin you can buy your kid a drink at a bar at 16 as long as they're under your supervision That's good for us in America, but in AZ you can be charged for having an open container IVO a minor even if they're not drinking. The minor can be charged with possession as well. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 5:21:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's good for us in America, but in AZ you can be charged for having an open container IVO a minor even if they're not drinking. The minor can be charged with possession as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You know, in Wisconsin you can buy your kid a drink at a bar at 16 as long as they're under your supervision That's good for us in America, but in AZ you can be charged for having an open container IVO a minor even if they're not drinking. The minor can be charged with possession as well. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 5:27:56 AM EDT
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Beer? Break out the whiskey, for gosh sakes! |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 5:34:38 AM EDT
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You should give him a beer.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 5:47:59 AM EDT
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I would buy your son a beer. Or anyone else in the service over 18.
Drinking rules on Elmendorf and Ft Rich were 18 when legal age outside the gate was 19, a couple of years after it was raised to 21 some dumbfuck GIs abused the privileges and got the rules changed for good. We always had great parties on base, everyone back then was familiar with the effects of booze by 16 and we rarely had anyone get out of control. Zero accidents Zero DWIs Zero cops or MPs showing up Can't even remember one of our gang getting a ticket |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:16:53 AM EDT
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The Navy teaches teens to drink alcoholic beverages? I thought they just taught them to insert a word that rhymes with "duck" into their conversations often enough to get them kicked out of every self-respecting Whorehouse in the western world. For their morals.
Hate to think what will happen to the poor kid when her returns to duty and they find out he tried to get a drink. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:21:16 AM EDT
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Glad you aren't my Dad, OP.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:22:56 AM EDT
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Is it illegal in your particular state? Some allow minors to consume alcohol in the presence of thier parents.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:41:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:43:32 AM EDT
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In 78 down in Texas it was legal to buy a beer and drive down the street with it, wave at cops when you were 18.
I would buy my daughter a beer if she wanted one. She is 16 and I offered he one the other day. Might as well get exposure to it at home and not wait till they are out on the road somewhere. If you make a big deal about it the kids will too. At 20 in the military I would get him all he wanted. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:48:48 AM EDT
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Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:50:00 AM EDT
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Hope this is a joke, and you didn't just pass up a major memory with your son over some stupid shit.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:51:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:52:23 AM EDT
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Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:56:14 AM EDT
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Are you morally opposed to alcohol, or do you simply follow the government's line on how to raise your children? The law on such thing varies from state to state. For example, In Ohio, it is legal for a parent to serve their own child alcohol, in their home, or in a licensed liquor establishment, O.R.C. section 4301.69.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:13:18 AM EDT
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-nvm-
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:22:42 AM EDT
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I don't drink. So this would have went this way.
Son; Dad I feel like drinking a beer to celebrate my leave time from Navy. Me: I don't drink but you're a grown ass man, drink what you want. Just remember, Legal age to drink is 21 so don't go out and get caught and get in trouble. I'm broke and don't pay bond money. Lets go get you a beer. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:25:17 AM EDT
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I'd have drank a beer with him if it was my son. But I'm a sinner and a known scofflaw.
Yup. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:26:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, you're a douche. Go drink a beer with your kid ffs. This. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:28:08 AM EDT
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It'll come full circle when he turns you in for owning guns after the next ban, after all, they will be illegal
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:28:31 AM EDT
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Give him an Odules
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:30:16 AM EDT
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Lol. Anytime my parents mixed margaritas growing up my brother and I would get one with dinner. We both turned out alright.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:30:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's only 20 |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:21:28 AM EDT
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That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. And if you live in a place where "sodomy" is still illegal (and there are a surprising many of them...) I hope you never got a blow job because, hey, its illegal.....
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:27:10 AM EDT
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When I was a kid, the law was interpreted as it being illegal for him to buy alcohol--not consume it.
Of course, I would assume giving him enough beer to get drunk, would be foolish. But most figured that the father could give his son a beer now and again. But times have changed. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:30:13 PM EDT
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I feel this is a troll thread, can't imagine someone would actually that big a jackass to someone who signed his life away for our country, son or not.
I hope you're trying to get a rise out of people. If this is a true story, you really should be ashamed of yourself and lament that moment you'll never have back with your kid |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:33:30 PM EDT
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He's only 20 I've been drinking since I was 12 years old. For fucks sake give the kid a beer. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:35:33 PM EDT
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That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Old enough to die for his country, old enough for a beer with his old man. 100% fail T_J That's illegal. Should he smoke a doobie with him also? What's the difference? Both are against the law. STFU |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:41:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:42:40 PM EDT
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I thought it's against arfcom rules to condone illegal activities?
I'd have a beer with him |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:49:02 PM EDT
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OP, I hope you're kidding.
If not, at least ONE person in this story decided to grow some balls and not be a pansy. Spoiler alert, it's not the OP. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:50:01 PM EDT
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That's good for us in America, but in AZ you can be charged for having an open container IVO a minor even if they're not drinking. The minor can be charged with possession as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You know, in Wisconsin you can buy your kid a drink at a bar at 16 as long as they're under your supervision That's good for us in America, but in AZ you can be charged for having an open container IVO a minor even if they're not drinking. The minor can be charged with possession as well. "In View of?" I'm going to need to see a cite from Title 14 or Title 4 of the ARS. That's probably just something the 1SG told you in the hopes that fewer HS girls in Sierra Vista would be molested. |
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