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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:20:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Redneck Conversion. It shall be called. It shall be thus. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:24:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like the camper is humping that pink car in the last picture 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:27:59 PM EDT
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You're going to chop a very popular and now discontinued Excursion?
 If you have a Winchester pre 64 Model 70 Featherweight you can chop the barrel to 18" to make a handy truck gun for it.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:40:51 PM EDT
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I say go for it. You either A. Already had your mind made up of B. Are trolling like a pro.
I say put your money where your mouth is and build it. Update this thread as a build thread. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like a lot of work to make a decent vehicle into some rusted, hacked up piece of shit with no resale value. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:10:15 PM EDT
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Call Jeremy Clarkson and crew.
Good start of for thier new contract/network |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:20:36 PM EDT
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I haven't read all three pages... so sorry if it has been said I'm guessing you haven't pulled a fifth wheel much, you "need" the longer bed for cab clearance while making tight turns. Yes, you can do it with a short bed truck... and they even make fancy slider hitches too that give you greater turning angle. However, I've seen a lot of short bed cabs smacked in and often because the owner was being too lazy to unlock previously mentioned slider hitch. Buy the proper tool for the job Only for 5 years from the east coast and all around CA, AZ, NV and UT hunting down work. Towed mine with my crew cab short bed dually sold it 13 months ago. Yes i had a slider. Custom ordered this truck in 2007. 
Pic next to my old 2004 tundra. 
2015 WRX Paid for by selling that ticking time bomb 6.4 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:21:48 PM EDT
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Just make sure you have 2.73's in the rear for good MPG and then put the 4.30 in the front for towing power only when needed! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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what kind of trailer are you towing anyways? 40 foot 5th wheel toyhauler Same year F-350 can haul 13K, and has a MUCH higher gross vehicle rating which means that whatever you pack in the the vehicle and tongue weight can be higher. The Excursion has Gross weight allowing basically 1670 lbs of people, cargo, and the weight of the trailer over it's base weight. Just looking up tongue weights of some 40' toy haulers, you could very well BLOW past that not even trying with the trailer alone. 4.30 or lower gears will go in plus F350 front and rear springs and airbags. Did you not read it's the same frame and rear axle as a F250 /350? Front axle is a dana 50 with is the same as the front of a 250 until about 2004 or 2005 when the 250 got the same dana 60 as a 350 Just make sure you have 2.73's in the rear for good MPG and then put the 4.30 in the front for towing power only when needed! You mean 3.73's I have a 2015 subaru WRX for good MPG. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:25:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:30:52 PM EDT
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Only for 5 years from the east coast and all around CA, AZ, NV and UT hunting down work. Towed mine with my crew cab short bed dually sold it 13 months ago. Yes i had a slider. Custom ordered this truck in 2007. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270024_zpsb2f7c683.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270025_zps05207375.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/P4150236_zpsab57a402.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I haven't read all three pages... so sorry if it has been said I'm guessing you haven't pulled a fifth wheel much, you "need" the longer bed for cab clearance while making tight turns. Yes, you can do it with a short bed truck... and they even make fancy slider hitches too that give you greater turning angle. However, I've seen a lot of short bed cabs smacked in and often because the owner was being too lazy to unlock previously mentioned slider hitch. Buy the proper tool for the job Only for 5 years from the east coast and all around CA, AZ, NV and UT hunting down work. Towed mine with my crew cab short bed dually sold it 13 months ago. Yes i had a slider. Custom ordered this truck in 2007. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270024_zpsb2f7c683.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270025_zps05207375.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/P4150236_zpsab57a402.jpg Nice rig and toy box. But to haul that giant sail of a trailer with a 'hack job' weak frame SRW vehicle is dum da da dum. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:32:12 PM EDT
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and lo, it was written on the internet.It shall be thus. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Redneck Conversion. It shall be called. I bet people thought the guy that designed the chevy Avalance was a redneck. They sold quite a few of those. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:32:22 PM EDT
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Hold on, let me write down this formula for success Like a vehicle because it has cargo room and extra seating. Cut off the parts that accommodate cargo room and extra seating. Remove extra seats and install fifth wheel hitch. Cover the mess with a tarp that happens to be same color as the parts that were removed. Purposefully choose the least efficient motor to power the whole contraption. Succeed. K I think I got it. No, the v10 is leagues better than the 5.4 v8. If OP had said he wanted one with a 5.4, THEN it would be the ultimate success. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:36:00 PM EDT
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Nice rig and toy box. But to haul that giant sail of a trailer with a 'hack job' weak frame SRW vehicle is dum da da dum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I haven't read all three pages... so sorry if it has been said I'm guessing you haven't pulled a fifth wheel much, you "need" the longer bed for cab clearance while making tight turns. Yes, you can do it with a short bed truck... and they even make fancy slider hitches too that give you greater turning angle. However, I've seen a lot of short bed cabs smacked in and often because the owner was being too lazy to unlock previously mentioned slider hitch. Buy the proper tool for the job Only for 5 years from the east coast and all around CA, AZ, NV and UT hunting down work. Towed mine with my crew cab short bed dually sold it 13 months ago. Yes i had a slider. Custom ordered this truck in 2007. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270024_zpsb2f7c683.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270025_zps05207375.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/P4150236_zpsab57a402.jpg Nice rig and toy box. But to haul that giant sail of a trailer with a 'hack job' weak frame SRW vehicle is dum da da dum. Yea but people pull them all the time with a SRW 250's and 350's. When you get to you destination and want to go exploring with your tow vehicle the DRW kinda suck. Only got 14 maybe 14.5 MPG hand calculated unloaded with that truck. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:37:11 PM EDT
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No, the v10 is leagues better than the 5.4 v8. If OP had said he wanted one with a 5.4, THEN it would be the ultimate success. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hold on, let me write down this formula for success Like a vehicle because it has cargo room and extra seating. Cut off the parts that accommodate cargo room and extra seating. Remove extra seats and install fifth wheel hitch. Cover the mess with a tarp that happens to be same color as the parts that were removed. Purposefully choose the least efficient motor to power the whole contraption. Succeed. K I think I got it. No, the v10 is leagues better than the 5.4 v8. If OP had said he wanted one with a 5.4, THEN it would be the ultimate success. 5.4 doesn't even have enough power for a F150 towing a 20 footer. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:38:44 PM EDT
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Nice rig and toy box. But to haul that giant sail of a trailer with a 'hack job' weak frame SRW vehicle is dum da da dum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I haven't read all three pages... so sorry if it has been said I'm guessing you haven't pulled a fifth wheel much, you "need" the longer bed for cab clearance while making tight turns. Yes, you can do it with a short bed truck... and they even make fancy slider hitches too that give you greater turning angle. However, I've seen a lot of short bed cabs smacked in and often because the owner was being too lazy to unlock previously mentioned slider hitch. Buy the proper tool for the job Only for 5 years from the east coast and all around CA, AZ, NV and UT hunting down work. Towed mine with my crew cab short bed dually sold it 13 months ago. Yes i had a slider. Custom ordered this truck in 2007. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270024_zpsb2f7c683.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270025_zps05207375.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/P4150236_zpsab57a402.jpg Nice rig and toy box. But to haul that giant sail of a trailer with a 'hack job' weak frame SRW vehicle is dum da da dum. Weak frame i don't think so. Extra cross members can be fabricated. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:38:46 PM EDT
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No, the v10 is leagues better than the 5.4 v8. If OP had said he wanted one with a 5.4, THEN it would be the ultimate success. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hold on, let me write down this formula for success Like a vehicle because it has cargo room and extra seating. Cut off the parts that accommodate cargo room and extra seating. Remove extra seats and install fifth wheel hitch. Cover the mess with a tarp that happens to be same color as the parts that were removed. Purposefully choose the least efficient motor to power the whole contraption. Succeed. K I think I got it. No, the v10 is leagues better than the 5.4 v8. If OP had said he wanted one with a 5.4, THEN it would be the ultimate success. I stand corrected. I had heard the 10 was just good for drinking more gas. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:43:03 PM EDT
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I stand corrected. I had heard the 10 was just good for drinking more gas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hold on, let me write down this formula for success Like a vehicle because it has cargo room and extra seating. Cut off the parts that accommodate cargo room and extra seating. Remove extra seats and install fifth wheel hitch. Cover the mess with a tarp that happens to be same color as the parts that were removed. Purposefully choose the least efficient motor to power the whole contraption. Succeed. K I think I got it. No, the v10 is leagues better than the 5.4 v8. If OP had said he wanted one with a 5.4, THEN it would be the ultimate success. I stand corrected. I had heard the 10 was just good for drinking more gas. 6.0 drains your savings in the form of cracked EGR coolers, blown head gaskets and fuel system issues. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:43:52 PM EDT
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So, uh, I rolled this thing on its roof and then cut it off and called it a "custom." Derp. Dumb faggot thinks he can get 35k for that POS?  Quote HistoryQuoted:
So, uh, I rolled this thing on its roof and then cut it off and called it a "custom." Derp. Dumb faggot thinks he can get 35k for that POS? Holy shit, the interior was fucking pristine too. Poor Excursion. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:44:54 PM EDT
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Weak frame i don't think so. Extra cross members can be fabricated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I haven't read all three pages... so sorry if it has been said I'm guessing you haven't pulled a fifth wheel much, you "need" the longer bed for cab clearance while making tight turns. Yes, you can do it with a short bed truck... and they even make fancy slider hitches too that give you greater turning angle. However, I've seen a lot of short bed cabs smacked in and often because the owner was being too lazy to unlock previously mentioned slider hitch. Buy the proper tool for the job Only for 5 years from the east coast and all around CA, AZ, NV and UT hunting down work. Towed mine with my crew cab short bed dually sold it 13 months ago. Yes i had a slider. Custom ordered this truck in 2007. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270024_zpsb2f7c683.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/PB270025_zps05207375.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/erichonda30/P4150236_zpsab57a402.jpg Nice rig and toy box. But to haul that giant sail of a trailer with a 'hack job' weak frame SRW vehicle is dum da da dum. Weak frame i don't think so. Extra cross members can be fabricated. LOL 
So the money you "save" over a normal, functional diesel goes to the fabrication of this excursion turned f450. -k- |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:58:43 PM EDT
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Why chop it? Just redneck engineer it!
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:02:06 AM EDT
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Holy shit this is the thread I needed before bed, my stomach hurts and I'm tearing up over here.
OP, be sure to start a "build thread" when you get started with this project. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:08:46 AM EDT
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Holy shit this is the thread I needed before bed, my stomach hurts and I'm tearing up over here. OP, be sure to start a "build thread" when you get started with this project. If i can find a rolled over one to start with. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:11:17 AM EDT
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If i can find a rolled over one to start with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy shit this is the thread I needed before bed, my stomach hurts and I'm tearing up over here. OP, be sure to start a "build thread" when you get started with this project. If i can find a rolled over one to start with. Buy a non-rolled over one, roll it over yourself. Now you have a rolled over one. You're welcome. Get started. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:12:48 AM EDT
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Buy a non-rolled over one, roll it over yourself. Now you have a rolled over one. You're welcome. Get started. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy shit this is the thread I needed before bed, my stomach hurts and I'm tearing up over here. OP, be sure to start a "build thread" when you get started with this project. If i can find a rolled over one to start with. Buy a non-rolled over one, roll it over yourself. Now you have a rolled over one. You're welcome. Get started. They can be had pretty cheap anytime there is a spike in CA gas prices. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:21:46 AM EDT
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I'm not reading 4 pages to see if someone has addressed the soft rear suspension that is NOT designed to tow a 5th wheel. OP, please just buy a used gas truck. I just seen a crew cab 4x4 6.0 hd2500 for sale for $6,900. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:25:07 AM EDT
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Y'all are just a bunch of haters. oP obviously has this shit all figured out.
Do it OP. Post pictures along the way. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:28:45 AM EDT
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I'm not reading 4 pages to see if someone has addressed the soft rear suspension that is NOT designed to tow a 5th wheel. OP, please just buy a used gas truck. I just seen a crew cab 4x4 6.0 hd2500 for sale for $6,900. I don't want a chevy ifs sucks and the 6.0 is a turd. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:30:01 AM EDT
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OP is retarded
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:30:04 AM EDT
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what the hell is wrong with people that have KTM in their username here?
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Posted: 7/6/2015 1:08:07 AM EDT
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Is this going to become a build thread of redneck proportions the likes of which we've never seen?
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Posted: 7/6/2015 1:29:46 AM EDT
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If only they made a short bed crew cab F350 pick up.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 1:33:18 AM EDT
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what the hell is wrong with people that have KTM in their username here? Could be an '08er thing . . . 
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Posted: 7/6/2015 1:33:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like a mess, why not just buy a gas F250? |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:08:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:28:55 AM EDT
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Someone from oildale, CA would buy it for sure once i'm done with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like a lot of work to make a truck. This. Sell SUV. Buytruck that fits your requirements. get a camper top if you need one. Once you cut that SUV you are going to be stuck with it forever. NO ONE will want to buy it after that kind of modification. Someone from oildale, CA would buy it for sure once i'm done with it. I'm gonna say there are only a handful of people in this thread that truly understand this comment. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:30:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat actually looks cool. What the OP is proposing will look like ass & function like shit. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:32:23 AM EDT
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6.0 is a turd 7.3 can still cost a lot for repairs. Not worth it for something that will be driven 500 to maybe 1000 miles a year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... have you considered a diesel? This, I think you should get a diesel. Why don't you want a diesel? Only faggots and pussies have gas engines in trucks, everyone laughs at them. It must get old having a gas engine in a truck and listening to people giggle and ask you "why didn't you get a diesel.". CA is the worst state to own a pre 2008 diesel. Large commercial truck already had to retrofit DPF's with terrible results. All the newer diesel are super high maintenance with emissions related equipment. My 2008 needed to be taken on a long drive every week or so just to allow it time to regenrate the DPF AS I ONLY WORKED 8 MILES FROM HOME! This thread was not to argue gas vs diesel. And 2005 was the last year of the excursion anyway. If you're already going to buy a 2005 or older Excursion, wouldn't a 2005 or older truck fit the bill just as well? In which case diesel would be fine since all you would have to do is... drive it. That would mean the newer "super high maintenance" wouldn't matter. 6.0 is a turd 7.3 can still cost a lot for repairs. Not worth it for something that will be driven 500 to maybe 1000 miles a year. But hacking an Excursion is doable for 1000 mile/year? |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:34:01 AM EDT
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You people are being jerks.
The OP has a great plan. It will work and it will be awesome. Don't let these negative Nancys dissuade you, OP. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:35:54 AM EDT
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Should i add that i'm watching mad max 2 right now? Also trucks are all registered as commercial vehicles in CA. So it will still be registered as a Excursion. Guessing CHP will have fun with you when they see you towing a 5th wheel. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:42:51 AM EDT
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I don't think that will give you a tight turning radius. Then where do you store that POS when your not using it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See if you can find a hitch buddy...I don't think the company is in business anymore...something about ripping receivers off http://www.tiny1.net/hitchbuddy.jpg I don't think that will give you a tight turning radius. Then where do you store that POS when your not using it? "Tight Turning radius" with a 40ft 5th wheel
Store the damn thing in the same place you store a 40ft 5th wheel.... |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 6:00:10 AM EDT
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Do you actually have any experience doing this? Or with the finishing work you'll have to do to keep it from being a rusty piece of shit? I will probably do the rough cutting with a sawzall and have a body shop finish it. OK. they were right. troll thread. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:42:13 AM EDT
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Redneck Conversion. It shall be called. I bet people thought the guy that designed the chevy Avalance was a redneck. They sold quite a few of those. I owned an avalanche, didn't ever think of towing a 5th wheel with it. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:12:48 AM EDT
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Sounds like a lot of work to make a truck. This. Just buy an F250 pickup truck if you want a fifth wheel. You'll need to upgrade a stock Ex's suspension anyway, it was 'dumbed down' a bit from the F250. The 250 springs actually raise the truck an inch or so over stock Ex springs. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:17:44 AM EDT
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Excursion frame is not the same as the trucks.
It has a hump over the rear axle and WAY less crossmembers because as you might imagine it doesnt need to be as stiff since it has a full body on it. The only thing that is the same is the frame in front of the B pillar, erry thing else different yo. Let me solve this for you OP. A DIESEL pickup, it is better despite what all the haters say. No one compares their diesel engine to a gas engine when pulling stuff. If you really want a gas as much as you say you do, buy a 6.0 Chevy 2500HD. Out of all the gas trucks this one tows best for the money. And if you bitch about IFS I want to remind you you are thinking about cutting a gas Excursion in half... __________________________________________ If you do decide to do it though, I have cut a Toyota Previa's roof off ala Top Gear convertible people carrier. Sawzall and a lack of give a damn gave me and my buddies a sweet chick magnet for the weekend. 
But, sad poverty tow rig maybe not so much.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:21:05 AM EDT
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Holy shit, how did I miss this one?
It does not make sense to spend a shitload of cash to cut up and modify an excursion to haul a 5th wheel when you can get a shortbed F250 with a slider hitch, and be set. I know you are trying to save wheelbase (which, honestly, makes even less sense since you're hauling a 40' toy hauler), but just get an ext. cab shortbed pickup. It'll maybe be 1-2' longer than the excursion, and not be dangerous or retardedly expensive. If it's worth it to you to drop all that time and fab to save 2', go for it I guess, it's your money. Just make sure to post progress pics. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:33:43 AM EDT
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Short box dually
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:44:29 AM EDT
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OP, if you are seriously looking at doing this check into pulling the body off your Excursion and buying a complete Super Duty body from these guys.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Big-Mikes-Truck-Stuff-DefianceOH/148218061889222 
I was out there Friday and bought a bed for my "new" to me Super Duty and found that for 2,400 I could buy the entire cab, 1,900 for the bed. Under 5,500 for eveything but chassis and firewall. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:50:31 AM EDT
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Do it op. Screw the haters.
My uncle took the back hatch and side glass out of a jeep cherokee and put plexiglass behind the back seat. We called it the Jeepalanche. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:41:11 AM EDT
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Why not a diesel? I'm just curious, plenty of v10s where I live and at decent prices too. Why would you need a V10 to pull a fifth wheel? 
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:46:44 AM EDT
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I wouldn't touch it. excursions are know to have weak rear ends and transmissions.
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