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Yes, and I'm all for it. We've known for awhile that it was possible to stop the destruction of DNA and that it can even be repaired. We could be living like the Elves from Lord of the Rings. You can still be killed in a car accident or something, but you wont die from aging. I think at some point, you'll probably decide to die on your own terms. No one would really want to live forever. View Quote Brave New World Alphas live long Betas not so long Gammas not too long at all Epsilons forget about it Time bombs planted in everyone's DNA |
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With advances in modern science, and my high level of income it's not crazy to think that I could live to be 245, maybe 300.
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[#5]
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It has always been within reach and didn't take a scientist to figure it out. Read the Bible. Just simply accept Jesus as Lord and Savior of you life and you will live for eternity. View Quote So when a thousand years go by and dont want live anymore, what do you do give Jesus the finger and keel over?? |
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[#6]
Good way to stretch out them student loan payments and maybe a 600 month car note.
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William H. Andrews (biologist)
William Henry "Bill" Andrews, Ph.D. (born December 10, 1951 in Saginaw, Michigan) is an American molecular biologist and gerontologist whose career has centered on searching for a cure for human aging. Andrews is the founder and president of the biotechnology company Sierra Sciences.[1] In 1997, he led the team at Geron Corporation that was the first to successfully identify human telomerase ... Further experiments by Andrews and his team demonstrated that the protein component of telomerase was inducible, and that when the gene for that component was inserted into normal human skin cells, they could divide past the Hayflick limit and essentially stopped exhibiting replicative senescence, a likely cause of aging. Years later, these cells were deemed immortal. Typically, the only immortal human cells are our germline and most cancers. ... In 1999, Andrews founded Sierra Sciences in Reno, Nevada, to capitalize on his discoveries at Geron, with the specific goal of curing human aging. Underwritten by investors Richard Offerdahl and Pierluigi Zappacosta, Andrews assembled a team to search for a small molecule that would bind to the telomerase repressor, causing the body to constitutively express telomerase in the presence of that molecule. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Andrews_(biologist) |
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[#8]
Artificial transcription for every cell replication, every time? Yay! Lysosomal invagination for everyone. You get a lysosomal invagination, and you get a lysosomal invagination.
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[#9]
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I would be down for immortality or at least a few hundred more years and the choice of dieing when Im ready. Less than 100 years on this awesome planet seems so short. Being able to explore more,settle in new areas for awhile without feeling any time constraints to move on before you are to infirm to do so,unlimited adventures and learning opportunities,doubly so if you could keep your body during its prime and your mind at its peak. Of course there would be down sides. A lot more time to go through episodes of heartbreak and failures, periods of what probably feels like endless work. View Quote Meh. 100 years is too long in my book. Most people should be living shorter rather than longer. |
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Here is what he's selling:
Product B® IsaGenesis® Supplement Facts Serving Size: 2 Softgels Servings per Container: 60 Amount per % Daily Serving Value Vitamin A (beta carotene) 3333 IU 66% Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) 13 mg 21% Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol) 5 IU 16% Vitamin B12 12 mcg 200% (cyanocobalamin and methylcobalamin) Proprietary Blend 1280 mg ¶ Milk thistle (Silybum marianum) seed extract, flax (Linum usitatissimum) seed oil, phosphatidylcholine, turmeric (Curcuma longa) root extract, green tea (Camellia sinensis) leaf extract, giant knotweed (Polygonum cuspidatum) root extract, horny goat weed (Epimedium sagittatum) herb top extract, pomegranate (Punica granatum) fruit extract, ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) root extract, grape (Vitis vinifera) seed extract, boswellia (Boswellia serrata) gum resin extract, blueberry (Vaccinium angustifolium) fruit extract, N-acetyl-L-cysteine, bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus) fruit extract, R-alpha lipoic acid, L-glutathione, Asian ginseng (Panax ginseng) root extract, bacopa (Bacopa monnieri) whole plant extract, raspberry (Rubus idaeus) fruit extract, canola lecithin, harada (Terminalia chebula) fruit extract, quercetin dihydrate, velvet bean (Mucuna pruriens) seed extract, maca (Lepidium meyenii) root extract, goldthread (Coptis chinensis) root extract, shilajit extract, acacia-thorn mimosa (Acacia nilotica) bark extract, black tea (Camellia sinensis) leaf extract, white tea (C. sinensis) leaf extract, proprietary carotenoid blend (lutein, lycopene, zeaxanthin, alpha carotene) http://www.isagenix.com/~/media/product/product-b-isagenesis/product-b-fact-panels/us-en-fact-panel-product-b http://www.isagenix.com/en-US/products/categories/individual-items/product-b |
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[#12]
Eh, just give me 75-80 quality years before I flop over, I'll be happy.
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[#13]
Just think, OUR Politicians could be "Useless for Centuries" not just years or decades.
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[#14]
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I would be down for immortality or at least a few hundred more years and the choice of dieing when Im ready. Less than 100 years on this awesome planet seems so short. Being able to explore more,settle in new areas for awhile without feeling any time constraints to move on before you are to infirm to do so,unlimited adventures and learning opportunities,doubly so if you could keep your body during its prime and your mind at its peak. Of course there would be down sides. A lot more time to go through episodes of heartbreak and failures, periods of what probably feels like endless work. View Quote Read Time Enough For Love by Robert A Heinlein. |
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If it works, it could be really bad. Through history, the younger generation always struggled a bit with the older generation for power and money - but they've generally been happy to let aging take its course. If you're in a situation where you want to be management, but your manager may stay in the job for 100-200 years, you'll be a bit peeved. There's plenty of bitching now about the boomer generation not retiring and opening up their jobs for the generation X'ers - imagine that with a hundred years or more, instead of 5-15, and you've got trouble.
On the plus side, I might live long enough to see my student loans paid off. |
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If it works, it could be really bad. Through history, the younger generation always struggled a bit with the older generation for power and money - but they've generally been happy to let aging take its course. If you're in a situation where you want to be management, but your manager may stay in the job for 100-200 years, you'll be a bit peeved. There's plenty of bitching now about the boomer generation not retiring and opening up their jobs for the generation X'ers - imagine that with a hundred years or more, instead of 5-15, and you've got trouble. On the plus side, I might live long enough to see my student loans paid off. View Quote I can see two distinct benefits: - Humans prioritize getting the hell off the Earth and colonizing other planets, for room and resources, and many more people are inclined to support the notion because... - ...it will happen in their lifetime. All of a sudden the time-window of human thinking for an individual grows from 40-50 years to three or four times that long, or more. Our lives become several hundred years, and so we start thinking several hundred years ahead instead. I think that would lead to a fundamental change in the human psyche that would (generally) make us more methodical, restrained, and cautious, in a good way. Small example... I just bought property and I want to plant trees on it. A specific tree... Sequoia Sempervirens (Coastal Redwood). Right now? I'd never see them full grown, I'll just plant them anywhere and let my great-great grandchildren worry about it. If I knew I was going to make my 250th birthday, I'd probably spend a whole year mapping and planning out the best spots on the mountainside for them, because I'd be still around for the best part. |
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Quoted: You know when they lost credibility? Somewhere between the "G" and "I" in "ageing" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: A visiting American research scientist says he is close to discovering a 'cure' for ageing, that he could have a drug ready for testing by the end of next year. Molecular Biologist Dr Bill Andrews told TV ONE's SUNDAY programme that humans shouldn't have to suffer from the ravages of ageing. He says that ageing is a disease that should, and could be cured. m.tvnz.co.nz/news/national/6352840 You know when they lost credibility? Somewhere between the "G" and "I" in "ageing" That is the spelling everywhere but 'merika. Doesn't it suck when you assume someone else is ignorant, and it turns out to be you? |
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If it works, it could be really bad. Through history, the younger generation always struggled a bit with the older generation for power and money - but they've generally been happy to let aging take its course. If you're in a situation where you want to be management, but your manager may stay in the job for 100-200 years, you'll be a bit peeved. There's plenty of bitching now about the boomer generation not retiring and opening up their jobs for the generation X'ers - imagine that with a hundred years or more, instead of 5-15, and you've got trouble. On the plus side, I might live long enough to see my student loans paid off. View Quote I think you are not conceptualizing this properly. You are taking what would be the most monumental social change in history and just grafting it onto existing conditions. It would not be overstating the point to say that it would disrupt EVERYTHING. |
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I know Dr. Andrews. He will figure out how to get non reproductive cells to produce telomerase. The effects of that remain to be seen. The botanical solutions he has helped formulate thus far are pretty amazing, I use them myself.
The first human to live past 150yrs is already alive, and the first to live 500yrs will be born in the next 50. We either crack FTL travel, or we make people able to live long enough to get there, but those are the options for interstellar exploration. |
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i would love to see it and I actually don't think it would increase average lifespan as drastically as some of yall seem to think. Heart disease and cancer would still claim many of us at nearly the same ages.
Number of deaths for leading causes of death Heart disease: 611,105 Cancer: 584,881 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 149,205 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 130,557 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,978 Alzheimer's disease: 84,767 Diabetes: 75,578 Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,979 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 47,112 Intentional self-harm (suicide): 41,149 |
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[#27]
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Here is what he's selling: Product B® IsaGenesis® Supplement Facts Serving Size: 2 Softgels Servings per Container: 60 Amount per % Daily Serving Value Vitamin A (beta carotene) 3333 IU 66% Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) 13 mg 21% Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol) 5 IU 16% Vitamin B12 12 mcg 200% (cyanocobalamin and methylcobalamin) Proprietary Blend 1280 mg ¶ Milk thistle (Silybum marianum) seed extract, flax (Linum usitatissimum) seed oil, phosphatidylcholine, turmeric (Curcuma longa) root extract, green tea (Camellia sinensis) leaf extract, giant knotweed (Polygonum cuspidatum) root extract, horny goat weed (Epimedium sagittatum) herb top extract, pomegranate (Punica granatum) fruit extract, ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) root extract, grape (Vitis vinifera) seed extract, boswellia (Boswellia serrata) gum resin extract, blueberry (Vaccinium angustifolium) fruit extract, N-acetyl-L-cysteine, bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus) fruit extract, R-alpha lipoic acid, L-glutathione, Asian ginseng (Panax ginseng) root extract, bacopa (Bacopa monnieri) whole plant extract, raspberry (Rubus idaeus) fruit extract, canola lecithin, harada (Terminalia chebula) fruit extract, quercetin dihydrate, velvet bean (Mucuna pruriens) seed extract, maca (Lepidium meyenii) root extract, goldthread (Coptis chinensis) root extract, shilajit extract, acacia-thorn mimosa (Acacia nilotica) bark extract, black tea (Camellia sinensis) leaf extract, white tea (C. sinensis) leaf extract, proprietary carotenoid blend (lutein, lycopene, zeaxanthin, alpha carotene) http://www.isagenix.com/~/media/product/product-b-isagenesis/product-b-fact-panels/us-en-fact-panel-product-b http://www.isagenix.com/en-US/products/categories/individual-items/product-b View Quote He isn't selling Product B, Isagenix is. Dr. John Anderson formulated it from botanicals tested by Sierra Sciences to induce telomerase production. I'm not a scientist so I can't tell you how it works, but my own use and literally hundreds of testimonials I've heard first hand tell me that something pretty awesome is going on in those little capsules. Dr. Andrews is looking for a synthetic treatment that will be several hundred times more effective than the botanicals in Product B. In the mean time, PM me if you want to buy some |
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[#29]
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i would love to see it and I actually don't think it would increase average lifespan as drastically as some of yall seem to think. Heart disease and cancer would still claim many of us at nearly the same ages. Number of deaths for leading causes of death Heart disease: 611,105 Cancer: 584,881 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 149,205 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 130,557 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,978 Alzheimer's disease: 84,767 Diabetes: 75,578 Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,979 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 47,112 Intentional self-harm (suicide): 41,149 View Quote Exactly. Dr. Andrews and his wife run ultramarathons and are health fanatics. He takes 16 Product B capsules a day. The guy is a beast. Average fatty mcfatass won't see any appreciable benefit from just taking product B and not changing their lifestyle. We need, as a society, to break our sugar addiction. Most healthcare expenses go toward treating behavioral problems, but the bought and paid for government won't tell you how bad for you sugar really is. No pill is going to fix that problem. |
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[#31]
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I can see two distinct benefits: - Humans prioritize getting the hell off the Earth and colonizing other planets, for room and resources, and many more people are inclined to support the notion because... - ...it will happen in their lifetime. All of a sudden the time-window of human thinking for an individual grows from 40-50 years to three or four times that long, or more. Our lives become several hundred years, and so we start thinking several hundred years ahead instead. I think that would lead to a fundamental change in the human psyche that would (generally) make us more methodical, restrained, and cautious, in a good way. Small example... I just bought property and I want to plant trees on it. A specific tree... Sequoia Sempervirens (Coastal Redwood). Right now? I'd never see them full grown, I'll just plant them anywhere and let my great-great grandchildren worry about it. If I knew I was going to make my 250th birthday, I'd probably spend a whole year mapping and planning out the best spots on the mountainside for them, because I'd be still around for the best part. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If it works, it could be really bad. Through history, the younger generation always struggled a bit with the older generation for power and money - but they've generally been happy to let aging take its course. If you're in a situation where you want to be management, but your manager may stay in the job for 100-200 years, you'll be a bit peeved. There's plenty of bitching now about the boomer generation not retiring and opening up their jobs for the generation X'ers - imagine that with a hundred years or more, instead of 5-15, and you've got trouble. On the plus side, I might live long enough to see my student loans paid off. I can see two distinct benefits: - Humans prioritize getting the hell off the Earth and colonizing other planets, for room and resources, and many more people are inclined to support the notion because... - ...it will happen in their lifetime. All of a sudden the time-window of human thinking for an individual grows from 40-50 years to three or four times that long, or more. Our lives become several hundred years, and so we start thinking several hundred years ahead instead. I think that would lead to a fundamental change in the human psyche that would (generally) make us more methodical, restrained, and cautious, in a good way. Small example... I just bought property and I want to plant trees on it. A specific tree... Sequoia Sempervirens (Coastal Redwood). Right now? I'd never see them full grown, I'll just plant them anywhere and let my great-great grandchildren worry about it. If I knew I was going to make my 250th birthday, I'd probably spend a whole year mapping and planning out the best spots on the mountainside for them, because I'd be still around for the best part. Excellent! Having children would be more carefully considered as well I think. |
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A geriatric riot....it staggers the imagination. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm sure it will only be available to the elite. That would start some kind of riot. If there was something out there that could save my parents from dieing, and it was being kept from me because I didnt fit the 'mold'... |
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A visiting American research scientist says he is close to discovering a 'cure' for ageing, that he could have a drug ready for testing by the end of next year. Molecular Biologist Dr Bill Andrews told TV ONE's SUNDAY programme that humans shouldn't have to suffer from the ravages of ageing. He says that ageing is a disease that should, and could be cured. View Quote m.tvnz.co.nz/news/national/6352840 View Quote LOL. I wonder how his line of penis enhancement pills is selling? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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No thanks,the guy is full of shit anyways.
Everything dies at some point |
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Quoted: Yes, and I'm all for it. We've known for awhile that it was possible to stop the destruction of DNA and that it can even be repaired. We could be living like the Elves from Lord of the Rings. You can still be killed in a car accident or something, but you wont die from aging. I think at some point, you'll probably decide to die on your own terms. No one would really want to live forever. View Quote So many people say this, and I often wonder if they suffer from depression. |
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Quoted: He isn't selling Product B, Isagenix is. Dr. John Anderson formulated it from botanicals tested by Sierra Sciences to induce telomerase production. I'm not a scientist so I can't tell you how it works, but my own use and literally hundreds of testimonials I've heard first hand tell me that something pretty awesome is going on in those little capsules. Dr. Andrews is looking for a synthetic treatment that will be several hundred times more effective than the botanicals in Product B. In the mean time, PM me if you want to buy some View Quote It's 1.28 grams of some herbs. How is that small amount per day supposed to be effective on a 70-90kg human being? What is a serving of vegetables, like 100 grams? So this is 1% of a single serving equivalent. |
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[#38]
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No thanks,the guy is full of shit anyways. Everything dies at some point View Quote Your grasp of biochemistry is staggering. There are olive trees in the middle east as old as Christ. There are trees right here in North America that are 5,000 years old. Lobsters and some species of clams don't show signs of aging. Certain tortoises and turtles can live past 200yrs with no obvious signs of aging. Your own sperm cells have perfect brand new DNA every time they divide. Read a book man. |
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[#39]
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It's 1.28 grams of some herbs. How is that small amount per day supposed to be effective on a 70-90kg human being? What is a serving of vegetables, like 100 grams? So this is 1% of a single serving equivalent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He isn't selling Product B, Isagenix is. Dr. John Anderson formulated it from botanicals tested by Sierra Sciences to induce telomerase production. I'm not a scientist so I can't tell you how it works, but my own use and literally hundreds of testimonials I've heard first hand tell me that something pretty awesome is going on in those little capsules. Dr. Andrews is looking for a synthetic treatment that will be several hundred times more effective than the botanicals in Product B. In the mean time, PM me if you want to buy some It's 1.28 grams of some herbs. How is that small amount per day supposed to be effective on a 70-90kg human being? What is a serving of vegetables, like 100 grams? So this is 1% of a single serving equivalent. Vegetables have very questionable mineral value due to the conditions under which most are grown. Also, the mass of the dose vs the mass of the recipient isn't relevant, it's what your body does with what it gets. Some natural poisons are so strong that a tiny drop can kill a human almost instantly. Works that way with essential nutrients as well. |
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I think you are not conceptualizing this properly. You are taking what would be the most monumental social change in history and just grafting it onto existing conditions. It would not be overstating the point to say that it would disrupt EVERYTHING. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If it works, it could be really bad. Through history, the younger generation always struggled a bit with the older generation for power and money - but they've generally been happy to let aging take its course. If you're in a situation where you want to be management, but your manager may stay in the job for 100-200 years, you'll be a bit peeved. There's plenty of bitching now about the boomer generation not retiring and opening up their jobs for the generation X'ers - imagine that with a hundred years or more, instead of 5-15, and you've got trouble. On the plus side, I might live long enough to see my student loans paid off. I think you are not conceptualizing this properly. You are taking what would be the most monumental social change in history and just grafting it onto existing conditions. It would not be overstating the point to say that it would disrupt EVERYTHING. Already covered in Methuselain Explosion / Methuselah's Children by Heinlein. Though Time Enough For Love gives a synopsis. |
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[#42]
Hmmm, I didn't read where a cure for Cancer happened.
Good luck with immortality. |
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Quoted: Vegetables have very questionable mineral value due to the conditions under which most are grown. Also, the mass of the dose vs the mass of the recipient isn't relevant, it's what your body does with what it gets. Some natural poisons are so strong that a tiny drop can kill a human almost instantly. Works that way with essential nutrients as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He isn't selling Product B, Isagenix is. Dr. John Anderson formulated it from botanicals tested by Sierra Sciences to induce telomerase production. I'm not a scientist so I can't tell you how it works, but my own use and literally hundreds of testimonials I've heard first hand tell me that something pretty awesome is going on in those little capsules. Dr. Andrews is looking for a synthetic treatment that will be several hundred times more effective than the botanicals in Product B. In the mean time, PM me if you want to buy some It's 1.28 grams of some herbs. How is that small amount per day supposed to be effective on a 70-90kg human being? What is a serving of vegetables, like 100 grams? So this is 1% of a single serving equivalent. Vegetables have very questionable mineral value due to the conditions under which most are grown. Also, the mass of the dose vs the mass of the recipient isn't relevant, it's what your body does with what it gets. Some natural poisons are so strong that a tiny drop can kill a human almost instantly. Works that way with essential nutrients as well. Oh really. The Amazon reviews are uninspiring. Take out a percentage for the shill factor and they become tepid. |
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I guess ill start looking for girls with green eyes.. I'm so old I recognize where that came from. Very good Mr Burton.. Everyone will know it as soon as the remake with 'The Rock' comes out.... http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/12/8771479/john-carpenter-the-rock-big-trouble-little-china |
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[#46]
No thanks. Way to many people. Forget about water and food supplies.
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