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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:16:07 AM EDT
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China bans many things and doesn't care about the complaints. China exports many things and doesn't care about the complaints |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:16:28 AM EDT
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Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. LOL |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:17:12 AM EDT
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China has never really been shy about the whole "banning religion" thing. The State is their God (that and money) 
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:19:59 AM EDT
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China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming No they will not. China will deal with them. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:20:11 AM EDT
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China exports many things and doesn't care about the complaints Quote HistoryQuoted:
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China bans many things and doesn't care about the complaints. China exports many things and doesn't care about the complaints you shut your whore mouth. China is a Permanent Normalized Trade Partner and a key ally in bringing stability to the Asia-Pacific region. now. we need to buy 2400 F35s to bomb them back to the stone age. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:02:43 AM EDT
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Just because we're doing it wrong here, doesn't mean China is doing it right. 
ETA: China isn't cracking down on Islam because of ISIS and the threat of terror. They're cracking down on it because it's a religion they can't control. They're assaulting the inherent freedoms of worship, religion, conscience, speech, and assembly, it just gets lots of cheers from the flag waving portion of Americans because it happens to affect an undesirable religion. Islam is evil. CAIR, ISIS, etc... are evil. But so is restricting the freedom of a Chinese Islamic to eat kosher. Well, in the absence of perfection, restricting the freedoms of a known political / terrorist organization masking itself as a religion in order to expand its influence in a Communist regime is something I personally can live with. YMMV |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:05:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you been watching what they are doing with the Christian church there? It's odd for me to see guy's on this site cheering a Communist, authoritarian government. Now, to chase this down the rabbit hole, I think that banning or strictly controlling/limiting Islam is a good thing. This is because when one starts studying the history and nature of it, you begin to understand that it is not "just another religion", like Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, and Christianity. After the 9/11 attacks I started reading about Islam. The first book I chose was Paul Fregosi's Jihad in the West. On eof the main reasons for that selection is that it was published before 9/11 and I wanted to avoid any bias that might have resulted from that event. Also, it is pretty thoroughly researched and footnoted. Another book that has good information but is a lighter read that I recommend for an introduction to the subject is The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades. Islam is essentially a constitution unto itself. Islam, as a system, covers areas of government, social structure, taxation, military policy, and so forth. As such, it is subversive to any non-Muslim country it exists in. Is Islam subversive in the United States? The Center for Security Policy produced a video series on Muslim Brotherhood infiltration and operations in our country: www.muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: prohibiting alcohol and smoking and eating halal food is considered radical behavior and is also banned. Now thats a ban I support. A ban on bans of awesome things. Sometimes, a strong, centralized government is your friend. Have you been watching what they are doing with the Christian church there? It's odd for me to see guy's on this site cheering a Communist, authoritarian government. Now, to chase this down the rabbit hole, I think that banning or strictly controlling/limiting Islam is a good thing. This is because when one starts studying the history and nature of it, you begin to understand that it is not "just another religion", like Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, and Christianity. After the 9/11 attacks I started reading about Islam. The first book I chose was Paul Fregosi's Jihad in the West. On eof the main reasons for that selection is that it was published before 9/11 and I wanted to avoid any bias that might have resulted from that event. Also, it is pretty thoroughly researched and footnoted. Another book that has good information but is a lighter read that I recommend for an introduction to the subject is The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades. Islam is essentially a constitution unto itself. Islam, as a system, covers areas of government, social structure, taxation, military policy, and so forth. As such, it is subversive to any non-Muslim country it exists in. Is Islam subversive in the United States? The Center for Security Policy produced a video series on Muslim Brotherhood infiltration and operations in our country: www.muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com . |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:05:54 AM EDT
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China bans many things and doesn't care about the complaints. Their Complaint Department is a bullet pocked brick wall. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:07:43 AM EDT
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The State is their God (that and money)
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China has never really been shy about the whole "banning religion" thing. The State is their God (that and money)
To those on the far Left, their politics is their religion. To those on the far Right, their religion is their politics. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:09:20 AM EDT
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To those on the far Left, their politics is their religion. To those on the far Right, their religion is their politics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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China has never really been shy about the whole "banning religion" thing. The State is their God (that and money)
To those on the far Left, their politics is their religion. To those on the far Right, their religion is their politics. In theory that would give the right free exercise clause while the left will harbor no such dissension. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:10:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming they do allow people to worship etc., but not spreading their shit from town to town. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:18:29 AM EDT
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The PRC banned console games for a 14 year period.... the PRC bans pretty much everything.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:23:27 AM EDT
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There has to be a happy middle ground between China doing away with rights of conscience and western societies who insist on subsidizing terrorists and those who encourage terrorism.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:25:00 AM EDT
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The ChiComs have experience with this.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:27:53 AM EDT
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Ever met a libertarian or liberal who didn't think they were uniquely qualified for this role? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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(Unless you're an elite philosopher king holding the reigns of the party) Ever met a libertarian or liberal who didn't think they were uniquely qualified for this role? Yep. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:42:22 AM EDT
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Send China more Socialist ROP apologists.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:49:17 AM EDT
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See, aimless. that is freedom. true freedom. imagine all those rational atheists seeing those buildings of ignorance and oppression every day. subjecting them to jesus and shit. all those flat earth christian taliban trying to put good communist atheist in the shackles of fear and fairy tales. now the chinese are free from superstition. free from moral judgements. free from people knocking on their door trying to make them happy, (like such a thing could exist when chained to superstitions about heaven and hell and what not) that is face of libertarian freedom. Only instead of a Mao jacket. they wear a black robe. the black robe of our earthly gods. lol, you're going to give yourself an ulcer. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:51:49 AM EDT
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lol, you're going to give yourself an ulcer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See, aimless. that is freedom. true freedom. imagine all those rational atheists seeing those buildings of ignorance and oppression every day. subjecting them to jesus and shit. all those flat earth christian taliban trying to put good communist atheist in the shackles of fear and fairy tales. now the chinese are free from superstition. free from moral judgements. free from people knocking on their door trying to make them happy, (like such a thing could exist when chained to superstitions about heaven and hell and what not) that is face of libertarian freedom. Only instead of a Mao jacket. they wear a black robe. the black robe of our earthly gods. lol, you're going to give yourself an ulcer. Defending liberty against tyrants preaching freedom is a tiring task, indeed. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:53:29 AM EDT
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Defending liberty against tyrants preaching freedom is a tiring task, indeed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See, aimless. that is freedom. true freedom. imagine all those rational atheists seeing those buildings of ignorance and oppression every day. subjecting them to jesus and shit. all those flat earth christian taliban trying to put good communist atheist in the shackles of fear and fairy tales. now the chinese are free from superstition. free from moral judgements. free from people knocking on their door trying to make them happy, (like such a thing could exist when chained to superstitions about heaven and hell and what not) that is face of libertarian freedom. Only instead of a Mao jacket. they wear a black robe. the black robe of our earthly gods. lol, you're going to give yourself an ulcer. Defending liberty against tyrants preaching freedom is a tiring task, indeed. By planting your keister in a swivel chair and posting nonsense on ar15.com general discussion? Seems legit. 
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:55:35 AM EDT
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Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. I don't think they'll take their fight their. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:56:45 AM EDT
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By planting your keister in a swivel chair and posting nonsense on ar15.com general discussion? Seems legit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See, aimless. that is freedom. true freedom. imagine all those rational atheists seeing those buildings of ignorance and oppression every day. subjecting them to jesus and shit. all those flat earth christian taliban trying to put good communist atheist in the shackles of fear and fairy tales. now the chinese are free from superstition. free from moral judgements. free from people knocking on their door trying to make them happy, (like such a thing could exist when chained to superstitions about heaven and hell and what not) that is face of libertarian freedom. Only instead of a Mao jacket. they wear a black robe. the black robe of our earthly gods. lol, you're going to give yourself an ulcer. Defending liberty against tyrants preaching freedom is a tiring task, indeed. By planting your keister in a swivel chair and posting nonsense on ar15.com general discussion? Seems legit. this is merely a sounding board.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:57:28 AM EDT
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I don't think they'll take their fight their. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. I don't think they'll take their fight their. Their isn't any reason to fight they're. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Defending liberty against tyrants preaching freedom is a tiring task, indeed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: See, aimless. that is freedom. true freedom. imagine all those rational atheists seeing those buildings of ignorance and oppression every day. subjecting them to jesus and shit. all those flat earth christian taliban trying to put good communist atheist in the shackles of fear and fairy tales. now the chinese are free from superstition. free from moral judgements. free from people knocking on their door trying to make them happy, (like such a thing could exist when chained to superstitions about heaven and hell and what not) that is face of libertarian freedom. Only instead of a Mao jacket. they wear a black robe. the black robe of our earthly gods. lol, you're going to give yourself an ulcer. Defending liberty against tyrants preaching freedom is a tiring task, indeed. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:20:32 PM EDT
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As long as the flow of General Tso's chicken isn't interrupted, I could give a Chinese rat's ass. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:22:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm OK with this. But but, I thought Freedom of Religion, written into our Constitution, was a good thing? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:22:56 PM EDT
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Now thats a ban I support. A ban on bans of awesome things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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prohibiting alcohol and smoking and eating halal food is considered radical behavior and is also banned. Now thats a ban I support. A ban on bans of awesome things. Damn straight. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:23:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're from NJ. You're used to not have having any rights or freedoms. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm OK with this. You're from NJ. You're used to not have having any rights or freedoms. yawn...another silly Tejan |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:23:50 PM EDT
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Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. That would be a good time! China would unleash canned sunshine I'd bet. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:25:44 PM EDT
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As much as I hate terrorists, I have to say that freedom of religion trumps your need to feel safer and more secure.
It might feel like it's a good idea, but it's NOT. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:32:21 PM EDT
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But but, I thought Freedom of Religion, written into our Constitution, was a good thing?
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I'm OK with this. But but, I thought Freedom of Religion, written into our Constitution, was a good thing?
Islam is a threat to all other religions and freedoms. They ( followers of Islam ) will/would/do use our own Constitution against us. There is no country or region where Islam is a majority that there is freedom and tolerance for other religions or non religious people. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:37:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Islam is a threat to all other religions and freedoms. They ( followers of Islam ) will/would/do use our own Constitution against us. There is no country or region where Islam is a majority that there is freedom and tolerance for other religions or non religious people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm OK with this. But but, I thought Freedom of Religion, written into our Constitution, was a good thing? Islam is a threat to all other religions and freedoms. They ( followers of Islam ) will/would/do use our own Constitution against us. There is no country or region where Islam is a majority that there is freedom and tolerance for other religions or non religious people. Something like 4 million muslims in this country, and they're not out cutting people's heads off at random. That sounds all too familiar with when we put Japanese in concentration camps. When most of them were loyal to the USA. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:47:27 PM EDT
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Something like 4 million muslims in this country, and they're not out cutting people's heads off at random. That sounds all too familiar with when we put Japanese in concentration camps. When most of them were loyal to the USA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm OK with this. But but, I thought Freedom of Religion, written into our Constitution, was a good thing?
Islam is a threat to all other religions and freedoms. They ( followers of Islam ) will/would/do use our own Constitution against us. There is no country or region where Islam is a majority that there is freedom and tolerance for other religions or non religious people. Something like 4 million muslims in this country, and they're not out cutting people's heads off at random. That sounds all too familiar with when we put Japanese in concentration camps. When most of them were loyal to the USA. As these threads always show the American "right" loves a strongman....as long as he does what they like. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:02:22 PM EDT
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Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. 
China would smash them into oblivion and those turds know it. They wouldn't raise a finger against China. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:08:24 PM EDT
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Bit of a difference from Hussein who's talking points dont allow Islam and terror to be used together.
Islamic terror? What Islamic Terror? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:08:46 PM EDT
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:09:08 PM EDT
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China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming I don't think China is even a little bit afraid of them. They will do what needs doing |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:11:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:14:44 PM EDT
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We should do this here in our country but do it for all religions!
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:14:52 PM EDT
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when ACLU lawyers start to be found with ninja throwing stars in their back I am disavowing ever having heard of you Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See, aimless. that is freedom. true freedom. imagine all those rational atheists seeing those buildings of ignorance and oppression every day. subjecting them to jesus and shit. all those flat earth christian taliban trying to put good communist atheist in the shackles of fear and fairy tales. now the chinese are free from superstition. free from moral judgements. free from people knocking on their door trying to make them happy, (like such a thing could exist when chained to superstitions about heaven and hell and what not) that is face of libertarian freedom. Only instead of a Mao jacket. they wear a black robe. the black robe of our earthly gods. lol, you're going to give yourself an ulcer. Defending liberty against tyrants preaching freedom is a tiring task, indeed. ginsburg is tiny. no way you could hit her. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 2:48:53 PM EDT
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In theory that would give the right free exercise clause while the left will harbor no such dissension. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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China has never really been shy about the whole "banning religion" thing. The State is their God (that and money)
To those on the far Left, their politics is their religion. To those on the far Right, their religion is their politics. In theory that would give the right free exercise clause while the left will harbor no such dissension. Sylvan is a modern day warrior-poet |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 4:17:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: (Unless you're an elite philosopher king holding the reigns of the party) Ever met a libertarian or liberal who didn't think they were uniquely qualified for this role? Yep. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:56:52 PM EDT
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Well, in the absence of perfection, restricting the freedoms of a known political / terrorist organization masking itself as a religion in order to expand its influence in a Communist regime is something I personally can live with. YMMV Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just because we're doing it wrong here, doesn't mean China is doing it right.
ETA: China isn't cracking down on Islam because of ISIS and the threat of terror. They're cracking down on it because it's a religion they can't control. They're assaulting the inherent freedoms of worship, religion, conscience, speech, and assembly, it just gets lots of cheers from the flag waving portion of Americans because it happens to affect an undesirable religion. Islam is evil. CAIR, ISIS, etc... are evil. But so is restricting the freedom of a Chinese Islamic to eat kosher. Well, in the absence of perfection, restricting the freedoms of a known political / terrorist organization masking itself as a religion in order to expand its influence in a Communist regime is something I personally can live with. YMMV Exactly, and that's why the big move to shut down Christianity. It's seen in China as a significant threat, because it's seen as a political/terrorist organisation masking it's self as a religion. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:09:34 PM EDT
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same reason khomeni embraced the godless communists in the fight against the christian west. he knew communism wasn't a threat to islam and christianity was. Exactly, and that's why the big move to shut down Christianity. It's seen in China as a significant threat, because it's seen as a political/terrorist organisation masking it's self as a religion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just because we're doing it wrong here, doesn't mean China is doing it right.
ETA: China isn't cracking down on Islam because of ISIS and the threat of terror. They're cracking down on it because it's a religion they can't control. They're assaulting the inherent freedoms of worship, religion, conscience, speech, and assembly, it just gets lots of cheers from the flag waving portion of Americans because it happens to affect an undesirable religion. Islam is evil. CAIR, ISIS, etc... are evil. But so is restricting the freedom of a Chinese Islamic to eat kosher. Well, in the absence of perfection, restricting the freedoms of a known political / terrorist organization masking itself as a religion in order to expand its influence in a Communist regime is something I personally can live with. YMMV same reason khomeni embraced the godless communists in the fight against the christian west. he knew communism wasn't a threat to islam and christianity was. Exactly, and that's why the big move to shut down Christianity. It's seen in China as a significant threat, because it's seen as a political/terrorist organisation masking it's self as a religion. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:59:56 PM EDT
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Just because we're doing it wrong here, doesn't mean China is doing it right.
ETA: China isn't cracking down on Islam because of ISIS and the threat of terror. They're cracking down on it because it's a religion they can't control. They're assaulting the inherent freedoms of worship, religion, conscience, speech, and assembly, it just gets lots of cheers from the flag waving portion of Americans because it happens to affect an undesirable religion. Islam is evil. CAIR, ISIS, etc... are evil. But so is restricting the freedom of a Chinese Islamic to eat kosher. Well, in the absence of perfection, restricting the freedoms of a known political / terrorist organization masking itself as a religion in order to expand its influence in a Communist regime is something I personally can live with. YMMV same reason khomeni embraced the godless communists in the fight against the christian west. he knew communism wasn't a threat to islam and christianity was. Exactly, and that's why the big move to shut down Christianity. It's seen in China as a significant threat, because it's seen as a political/terrorist organisation masking it's self as a religion. That may be the excuse they use but I'm damned if I can remember the last time a Christian strapped on an explosive vest and went BOOM in a bunch of civilians. Bottom line, there is no moral (or actual) equivalence between the two (Chinese .gov bullshit notwithstanding)
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:25:34 PM EDT
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Give me China for $1000. They would unleash 200 million soldiers and eat the muslims for food.
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