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Posted: 7/3/2015 1:45:22 PM EDT
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
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The whole book is eerie.
That an Atlas Shrugged were so spot-on, it is not a coincidence. These authors knew what was coming before anyone else. |
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Bingo.
But I bet you could find actual historic events by dictatorships that mirror the current happenings too, rather than fiction books. |
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I wonder if its already happened to the history we know.
You figure 100 years ago a lot few folks had access to news sources and there were far fewer sources to get news from. Made it much easier to control. |
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Spot on. The party is running full speed ahead with their lies and propaganda.
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The Stalinists even altered photographs to establish a false historical narrative.
Altering history is not a new tool in their play book; it's a time proven and well honed communist tactic. |
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I wonder if its already happened to the history we know. You figure 100 years ago a lot few folks had access to news sources and there were far fewer sources to get news from. Made it much easier to control. View Quote Yes and no. Yellow Journalism is akin to your comment. Today most of the major media is controlled by a few as well, so even in the age of the World Wide Web and people from all over the world have access to more information than ever before, the Achilles heel is most is controlled by a few like a century ago. What's old is new again. |
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in before the guy that calls all of the basement arfcom neckbeards pussies for not doing anything about it
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George Orwell was a racist bigot xenophobe hate monger ETA: Oh, and his books should be banned and burned |
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I wonder if its already happened to the history we know. You figure 100 years ago a lot few folks had access to news sources and there were far fewer sources to get news from. Made it much easier to control. View Quote It was practiced by the Romans over 2,000 years ago, called damnatio memoriae. Some of the attempts were thorough enough that scholars are pretty sure there are people "missing" that they will never positively identify. |
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 View Quote He wrote this in the 40s, I feel our current crop of sjw are modelling themselves more on Mao's red guards from the 60s cultural revolution. Not sure what the body count from that was, maybe the fallun gong dude can chip in if he's still around. |
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Orwell meant 1984 as a cautionary tale of a likely future.
The American left took it as a blueprint and call for action. That is how Americas was dragged down to its current state of politically-correct fascism. |
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You'd be better off reading all Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn had to say on the matter as he actually lived through the process and accurately described it...rather
than being one of them and writing fantasy literature....of course they censored his last book....refusing to publish it in English.... |
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 View Quote Nailed it. |
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At what point is it actually worth possibly dying to stop it? If the answer to that is "none", I want off this planet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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in before the guy that calls all of the basement arfcom neckbeards pussies for not doing anything about it At what point is it actually worth possibly dying to stop it? If the answer to that is "none", I want off this planet. The problem is that point is different for everyone. For some people, that point was long ago and they were written off by the rest of us as crazy. |
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 View Quote Jesus. Scary. |
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 Nailed it. Yup, heck, today the flags of the Confederacy no longer represent the movement outline by its founders, they represent Sweet Tea, Nascar, and freedom from Obama's gun control tyranny. Those speeches and documents must not be taught. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazzard. And if you want people to actually read the words of those who founded the Confederacy, you will be accused of crime think and shunned as an unbeliever in Derp Brother. Edited to fix mis-spelling of Hazzard County. |
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The Stalinists even altered photographs to establish a false historical narrative. Altering history is not a new tool in their play book; it's a time proven and well honed communist tactic. View Quote Yep the white house, AP and New York times do it all the time. They cropped out George Bush out of the front group marching during the Selma annaversary. Cant have a white ex president standing in a line with zero and admitted racist Al not so Sarpton. That would show unity vs our government imposed division. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/09/white-house-nyt-leave-bushes-out-lead-photos-from-selma-march/ |
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 Nailed it. . Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard. . Pffft! Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth. |
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Pffft! Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 Nailed it. . Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard. . Pffft! Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth. Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed. |
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 Nailed it. . Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard. . Pffft! Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth. Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed. Saul Alinsky #5 “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions |
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Saul Alinsky #5 “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard. . Pffft! Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth. Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed. Saul Alinsky #5 “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here. |
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 Nailed it. . Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard. . Pffft! Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth. Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed. Sorry, you've already lost all credibility with me. Now, to atone for your sins, mentally squeeze Boss Hogg into Daisy's Daisy Dukes and grab the lotion..... |
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Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard. . Pffft! Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth. Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed. Saul Alinsky #5 “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here. LOL, 10 years here and this is most likely the first time I've ever responded to you |
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Orwell meant 1984 as a cautionary tale of a likely future. The American left took it as a blueprint and call for action. That is how Americas was dragged down to its current state of politically-correct fascism. View Quote Not entirely sure how you can oppose the above statement... but, I'm sure someone will |
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The whole book is eerie. That an Atlas Shrugged were so spot-on, it is not a coincidence. These authors knew what was coming before anyone else. View Quote They were on target because they associated with people who have been wanting this and planning this outcome for a very long time. Freedom and individual liberty offends many people. Especially those of old money and land. They lose their birth-rite when liberty is in effect. And they don't like upstarts. And then you have that human element that is compelled to try to control others, because they are so much wiser than anyone else, even 'though they have no real world experience doing anything. |
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An appropriate quote for current events:
"Men cannot be men—much less good or heroic men—unless their actions have meaningful consequences to people they truly care about. Strength requires an opposing force, courage requires risk, mastery requires hard work, honor requires accountability to other men. Without these things, we are little more than boys playing at being men, and there is no weekend retreat or mantra or half-assed rite of passage that can change that. A rite of passage must reflect a real change in status and responsibility for it to be anything more than theater. No reimagined manhood of convenience can hold its head high so long as the earth remains the tomb of our ancestors” - Jack Donovan, The Way of Men |
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Yup, heck, today the flags of the Confederacy no longer represent the movement outline by its founders, they represent Sweet Tea, Nascar, and freedom from Obama's gun control tyranny. Those speeches and documents must not be taught. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazzard. And if you want people to actually read the words of those who founded the Confederacy, you will be accused of crime think and shunned as an unbeliever in Derp Brother. Edited to fix mis-spelling of Hazzard County. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 Nailed it. Yup, heck, today the flags of the Confederacy no longer represent the movement outline by its founders, they represent Sweet Tea, Nascar, and freedom from Obama's gun control tyranny. Those speeches and documents must not be taught. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazzard. And if you want people to actually read the words of those who founded the Confederacy, you will be accused of crime think and shunned as an unbeliever in Derp Brother. Edited to fix mis-spelling of Hazzard County. Where was your righteous indignation about the Confederate flag on, say, June 16th? |
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With as few Southerners who claim to fly the Confederate flag, but not reference the *founding* documents of the Confederacy...
You would think that the founding documents of the confederacy had been banned... Honestly. And as for "changing history" Southern revisionists can be accused of the same thing. The Texas legislature did not want Texas textbooks to reference slavery as the issue that drove Texas to secede. It was "states rights" with no reference to slavery. Talk about attempting to change books and change history. Texas cited slavery in the original Causes of Secession. In fact, Texas wrote that they were upset that Northern states exercised states rights, and refused to return runaway slaves. Talk about a pathetic attempt to re-write history... |
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984 View Quote Wow --- that's creepy. |
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I like author Tom Kratman's take on the Confederate Flag:
"I have no sympathy for hereditary chattel slavery and not much for the Confederacy. It was a poor political cause, raised by arrogant idiots, and led mostly by well connected second raters, that brought about an unfortunate war and led to or even created precisely what was feared, an overweening federal government. If there is any moral value or worth in the Confederacy, though, it was in the soldiery of the army that followed the battle flag. Their memory, or the memory of their courage and - probably misguided - devotion, is worth preserving. And, remember, I'm from Boston, which is to say, about as Yankee as you can get. But the other thing is this, the flag is a constant reminder to the left that, "Motherfuckers, we bled you white last time. Next time, the correlation of forces will be different. If you push us enough, it will be a LOT worse than last time, so much so that you shouldn't count on winning." |
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Yup, heck, today the flags of the Confederacy no longer represent the movement outline by its founders, they represent Sweet Tea, Nascar, and freedom from Obama's gun control tyranny. Those speeches and documents must not be taught. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazzard. And if you want people to actually read the words of those who founded the Confederacy, you will be accused of crime think and shunned as an unbeliever in Derp Brother. Edited to fix mis-spelling of Hazzard County. View Quote You're like an autistic kid with no helmet that just keeps banging his head on the Confederate flag hanging on the evil man's wall. |
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There is a humorous irony here...
Almost a quarter of all confederate soldiers were full-blown conscripts. And following 1862, the Confederate leaders did not allow the "volunteers" leave when the terms of their service expire. There were very, very few *true* "volunteers" who were willingly serving the confederacy. The irony is that they were forced to serve under the Confederate flag... And now people are trying to remove the flag from *public* land, their future relatives are fighting for the flag to fly over monuments to their Confederate conscription and unwilling service... Just a bit ironic. And if you say, "my relatives all volunteered to fight for the South without shoes and ammo and starve." You are probably correct. Many were compelled into mandatory service in local and state militias.... The problem was they could not leave when their service terms were up, and essentially became conscripts after 1862... That is the plain facts... |
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. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard. . Pffft! Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth. Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed. Saul Alinsky #5 “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here. You use it yourself, why wouldn't they? |
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People could easily point to the flag and use it as a reminder of where we've been, and the racism we've had in this county. But then, who would take their new "micro aggressions" and other bs claims of racism seriously?
Throw the flag down the memory hole and you eliminate any frame of reference. |
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People could easily point to the flag and use it as a reminder of where we've been, and the racism we've had in this county. But then, who would take their new "micro aggressions" and other bs claims of racism seriously? Throw the flag down the memory hole and you eliminate any frame of reference. View Quote People constantly point to the flag and claim it had nothing to so with slavery, that the Confederacy was fighting over states rights and tariffs, and if the South had won we'd all be more free. To deny this would require your pretending not to read any of these threads. |
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