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Posted: 7/3/2015 1:45:22 PM EDT
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
- George Orwell, 1984
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 1:47:00 PM EDT
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The whole book is eerie.

That an Atlas Shrugged were so spot-on, it is not a coincidence.

These authors knew what was coming before anyone else.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 1:47:32 PM EDT
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Bingo.

But I bet you could find actual historic events by dictatorships that mirror the current happenings too, rather than fiction books.



Link Posted: 7/3/2015 1:49:37 PM EDT
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I wonder if its already happened to the history we know.

You figure 100 years ago a lot few folks had access to news sources and there were far fewer sources to get news from. Made it much easier to control.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 1:52:38 PM EDT
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Spot on. The party is running full speed ahead with their lies and propaganda.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 1:54:02 PM EDT
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Look up at that web cam and wave hello to the NSA  
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 1:57:42 PM EDT
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The Stalinists even altered photographs to establish a false historical narrative.

Altering history is not a new tool in their play book; it's a time proven and well honed communist tactic.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 1:59:50 PM EDT
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Yes and no.

Yellow Journalism is akin to your comment.

Today most of the major media is controlled by a few as well, so even in the age of the World Wide Web and people from all over the world have access to more information than ever before, the Achilles heel is most is controlled by a few like a century ago.

What's old is new again.

Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:00:50 PM EDT
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in before the guy that calls all of the basement arfcom neckbeards pussies for not doing anything about it
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:11:54 PM EDT
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Orwell was the 20th century Nostradamus.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:18:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:25:44 PM EDT
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Wasn't that the guy that responded to every post: "Sheep"?




 
 
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:26:14 PM EDT
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       George Orwell was a racist bigot xenophobe hate monger




ETA: Oh, and his books should be banned and burned    

Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:31:22 PM EDT
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It was practiced by the Romans over 2,000 years ago, called damnatio memoriae.  Some of the attempts were thorough enough that scholars are pretty sure there are people "missing" that they will never positively identify.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:32:58 PM EDT
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Isis and taliban destroy ancient memorials and monuments too.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:33:52 PM EDT
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He wrote this in the 40s, I feel our current crop of sjw are modelling themselves more on Mao's red guards from the 60s cultural revolution. Not sure what the body count from that was, maybe the fallun gong dude can chip in if he's still around.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:36:42 PM EDT
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Orwell meant 1984 as a cautionary tale of a likely future.



The American left took it as a blueprint and call for action.




That is how Americas was dragged down to its current state of politically-correct fascism.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:43:53 PM EDT
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You'd be better off reading all Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn had to say on the matter as he actually lived through the process and accurately described it...rather
than being one of them and writing fantasy literature....of course they censored his last book....refusing to publish it in English....
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:49:13 PM EDT
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He wrote this in the 40s, I feel our current crop of sjw are modelling themselves more on Mao's red guards from the 60s cultural revolution. Not sure what the body count from that was, maybe the fallun gong dude can chip in if he's still around.
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- George Orwell, 1984

He wrote this in the 40s, I feel our current crop of sjw are modelling themselves more on Mao's red guards from the 60s cultural revolution. Not sure what the body count from that was, maybe the fallun gong dude can chip in if he's still around.


Interesting perspective, I hadn't thought of that.  They all used to carry the Little Read Book.




And this corporation has lost it way.




And no one cares about Apple knowing all they do through the iPhone

Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:56:08 PM EDT
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At what point is it actually worth possibly dying to stop it?

If the answer to that is "none", I want off this planet.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:57:22 PM EDT
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Nailed it.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 2:58:52 PM EDT
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The whole book is eerie.



That an Atlas Shrugged were so spot-on, it is not a coincidence.



These authors knew what was coming before anyone else.
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Rand and Orwell wrote their books as warnings. The left took them for instruction manuals.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:01:01 PM EDT
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At what point is it actually worth possibly dying to stop it?

If the answer to that is "none", I want off this planet.
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At what point is it actually worth possibly dying to stop it?

If the answer to that is "none", I want off this planet.


The problem is that point is different for everyone. For some people, that point was long ago and they were written off by the rest of us as crazy.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:02:03 PM EDT
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Jesus. Scary.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:02:31 PM EDT
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Nailed it.
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- George Orwell, 1984


Nailed it.


Yup, heck, today the flags of the Confederacy no longer represent the movement outline by its founders, they represent Sweet Tea, Nascar, and freedom from Obama's gun control tyranny. Those speeches and documents must not be taught. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazzard.

And if you want people to actually read the words of those who founded the Confederacy, you will be accused of crime think and shunned as an unbeliever in Derp Brother.

Edited to fix mis-spelling of Hazzard County.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:12:23 PM EDT
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Yep the white house, AP and New York times do it all the time.  They cropped out George Bush out of the front group marching during the Selma annaversary.  Cant have a white ex president standing in a line with zero and admitted racist Al not so Sarpton.  That would show unity vs our government imposed division.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/09/white-house-nyt-leave-bushes-out-lead-photos-from-selma-march/
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:12:34 PM EDT
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. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard.

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- George Orwell, 1984


Nailed it.


. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard.

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Pffft!
Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:14:24 PM EDT
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Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.
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- George Orwell, 1984


Nailed it.


. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard.

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Pffft!
Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.


Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed.
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
- George Orwell, 1984


Nailed it.


. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard.

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Pffft!
Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.


Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed.



Saul Alinsky #5

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:20:18 PM EDT
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Saul Alinsky #5

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions
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Pffft!
Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.


Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed.



Saul Alinsky #5

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions


Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:20:24 PM EDT
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Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed.
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
- George Orwell, 1984


Nailed it.


. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard.

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Pffft!
Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.


Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed.


Sorry, you've already lost all credibility with me. Now, to atone for your sins,  mentally squeeze Boss Hogg into Daisy's Daisy Dukes and grab the lotion.....
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 3:22:15 PM EDT
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Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here.
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. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazard.

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Pffft!
Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.


Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed.



Saul Alinsky #5

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions


Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here.


LOL, 10 years here and this is most likely the first time I've ever responded to you
Link Posted: 7/4/2015 10:16:54 AM EDT
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The American left took it as a blueprint and call for action.


That is how Americas was dragged down to its current state of politically-correct fascism.
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Not entirely sure how you can oppose the above statement... but, I'm sure someone will
Link Posted: 7/4/2015 11:32:44 AM EDT
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That an Atlas Shrugged were so spot-on, it is not a coincidence.

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They were on target because they associated with people who have been wanting this and planning this outcome for a very long time.  Freedom and individual liberty offends many people.  Especially those of old money and land.  They lose their birth-rite when liberty is in effect.  And they don't like upstarts.  And then you have that human element that is compelled to try to control others, because they are so much wiser than anyone else, even 'though they have no real world experience doing anything.
Link Posted: 7/4/2015 11:40:38 AM EDT
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It is reminding me of this...

lyrics are spot on. Mustaine had it figured out in '87

Link Posted: 7/4/2015 11:50:16 AM EDT
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An appropriate quote for current events:


"Men cannot be men—much less good or heroic men—unless their actions have meaningful consequences to people they truly care about. Strength requires an opposing force, courage requires risk, mastery requires hard work, honor requires accountability to other men. Without these things, we are little more than boys playing at being men, and there is no weekend retreat or mantra or half-assed rite of passage that can change that. A rite of passage must reflect a real change in status and responsibility for it to be anything more than theater. No reimagined manhood of convenience can hold its head high so long as the earth remains the tomb of our ancestors”
- Jack Donovan, The Way of Men




Link Posted: 7/4/2015 11:57:19 AM EDT
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Yup, heck, today the flags of the Confederacy no longer represent the movement outline by its founders, they represent Sweet Tea, Nascar, and freedom from Obama's gun control tyranny. Those speeches and documents must not be taught. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazzard.

And if you want people to actually read the words of those who founded the Confederacy, you will be accused of crime think and shunned as an unbeliever in Derp Brother.

Edited to fix mis-spelling of Hazzard County.
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“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
- George Orwell, 1984


Nailed it.


Yup, heck, today the flags of the Confederacy no longer represent the movement outline by its founders, they represent Sweet Tea, Nascar, and freedom from Obama's gun control tyranny. Those speeches and documents must not be taught. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazzard.

And if you want people to actually read the words of those who founded the Confederacy, you will be accused of crime think and shunned as an unbeliever in Derp Brother.

Edited to fix mis-spelling of Hazzard County.



Where was your righteous indignation about the Confederate flag on, say, June 16th?
Link Posted: 7/4/2015 12:05:19 PM EDT
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With as few Southerners who claim to fly the Confederate flag, but not reference the *founding* documents of the Confederacy...

You would think that the founding documents of the confederacy had been banned...

Honestly.

And as for "changing history" Southern revisionists can be accused of the same thing.

The Texas legislature did not want Texas textbooks to reference slavery as the issue that drove Texas to secede. It was "states rights" with no reference to slavery.

Talk about attempting to change books and change history. Texas cited slavery in the original Causes of Secession. In fact, Texas wrote that they were upset that Northern states exercised states rights, and refused to return runaway slaves.

Talk about a pathetic attempt to re-write history...

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Wow --- that's creepy.
Link Posted: 7/4/2015 12:08:39 PM EDT
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Electrical tape covering it.
Link Posted: 7/4/2015 12:10:23 PM EDT
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I like author Tom Kratman's take on the Confederate Flag:



"I have no sympathy for hereditary chattel slavery and not much for
the Confederacy. It was a poor political cause, raised by arrogant
idiots, and led mostly by well connected second raters, that brought
about an unfortunate war and led to or even created precisely what was
feared, an overweening federal government. If there is any moral value
or worth in the Confederacy, though, it was in the soldiery of the army
that followed the battle flag. Their memory, or the memory of their
courage and - probably misguided - devotion, is worth preserving. And,
remember, I'm from Boston, which is to say, about as Yankee as you can
get.
But the other thing is this, the flag is a constant reminder
to the left that, "Motherfuckers, we bled you white last time. Next
time, the correlation of forces will be different. If you push us
enough, it will be a LOT worse than last time, so much so that you
shouldn't count on winning."


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Hitler did much the same thing.  And now it our Supreme Court that's doing it!
Link Posted: 7/4/2015 12:16:34 PM EDT
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Yup, heck, today the flags of the Confederacy no longer represent the movement outline by its founders, they represent Sweet Tea, Nascar, and freedom from Obama's gun control tyranny. Those speeches and documents must not be taught. Instead, we should watch Dukes of Hazzard.

And if you want people to actually read the words of those who founded the Confederacy, you will be accused of crime think and shunned as an unbeliever in Derp Brother.

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You're like an autistic kid with no helmet that just keeps banging his head on the Confederate flag hanging on the evil man's wall.
Link Posted: 7/4/2015 12:17:30 PM EDT
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There is a humorous irony here...

Almost a quarter of all confederate soldiers were full-blown conscripts.

And following 1862, the Confederate leaders did not allow the "volunteers" leave when the terms of their service expire.

There were very, very few *true* "volunteers" who were willingly serving the confederacy.

The irony is that they were forced to serve under the Confederate flag...

And now people are trying to remove the flag from *public* land, their future relatives are fighting for the flag to fly over monuments to their Confederate conscription and unwilling service...

Just a bit ironic.

And if you say, "my relatives all volunteered to fight for the South without shoes and ammo and starve." You are probably correct. Many were compelled into mandatory service in local and state militias.... The problem was they could not leave when their service terms were up, and essentially became conscripts after 1862... That is the plain facts...

Link Posted: 7/4/2015 12:19:55 PM EDT
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We should know better.
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Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here.
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Pffft!
Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.


Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed.



Saul Alinsky #5

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions


Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here.


You use it yourself, why wouldn't they?
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Link Posted: 7/4/2015 12:24:38 PM EDT
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People could easily point to the flag and use it as a reminder of where we've been, and the racism we've had in this county. But then, who would take their new "micro aggressions" and other bs claims of racism seriously?



Throw the flag down the memory hole and you eliminate any frame of reference.
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You use it yourself, why wouldn't they?
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Pffft!
Can't even spell Hazzard correctly and expects us to listen to anything else he spews forth.


Ridicule is a potent weapon, indeed.



Saul Alinsky #5

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions


Exactly... that list seems to be darned near a "how to" for many of those who target me here.


You use it yourself, why wouldn't they?


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People could easily point to the flag and use it as a reminder of where we've been, and the racism we've had in this county. But then, who would take their new "micro aggressions" and other bs claims of racism seriously?

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People constantly point to the flag and claim it had nothing to so with slavery, that the Confederacy was fighting over states rights and tariffs, and if the South had won we'd all be more free.

To deny this would require your pretending not to read any of these threads.

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