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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that escalated quickly, really that got out of hand fast. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. Well that escalated quickly, really that got out of hand fast. Would you say... ...Jimmies were rustled? |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:59:18 PM EDT
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I tend to think of a serial killers as complete psychos who will kill without conscious, emotion, and often without motive. As long as innocents don't get caught in the crossfire, I consider killer criminals killing criminals a win win scenario for societah.
FYI, if you want to see more of Gus' s thinking process then you Better call Saul. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:03:21 PM EDT
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In watched one or two episodes to see if there was something redeeming about these characters. There wasn't. Given the general views on drug use expressed here, I don't get why any one liked these characters. My sincere condolences for your loss. Breaking Bad is a story where everybody loses something and or someone they hold to be truly important. I have spoken to some people who have told me they would not watching anything that glorified drugs. I told them they should watch Breaking Bad for if there is any glory in the drug business they ran, I must have missed it. There were people who went for riches and glory who died poor and unknown. There were people who made fortunes who died without being able to spend any of it on themselves. The smart people lost. The stupid people lost. The good guys and truly innocent people who did not ask for any of this lost (loved ones, reputations, property). Even the quasi-good/bad guys who only wanted to be a little bad and had something of a moral compass (Saul) lost everything. I cannot think of any real winners in any of this (even Jesse's friends Skinny Pete and Badger are convicts and live inane lives that will undoubtedly not last). If there is one lesson to be learned from Breaking Bad, and there are many, it is the illegal drug trade is a fast and easy way to wind up poor, dead, and/or in jail. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:03:23 PM EDT
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Would you say... ...Jimmies were rustled? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well that escalated quickly, really that got out of hand fast. Would you say... ...Jimmies were rustled? Being a professional on just this sort of subject I would concur on the astute observation of the rustling of some jimmies. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:05:28 PM EDT
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Gus took a gamble and lost. I really wish we had more incite into his thinking during the whole thing. He strikes me as a fascinating character. agreed.... I know the mystery behind him helped sell the show and all interesting guy I want to know the deal with the soup he wanted both of them to try the soup so bad you would think he poisoned it or at least that is what I thought |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:08:34 PM EDT
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Jesse was on board as the marketing and sales contact to the street.
Bill Burr's character did ok? |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:09:47 PM EDT
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agreed.... I know the mystery behind him helped sell the show and all interesting guy I want to know the deal with the soup he wanted both of them to try the soup so bad you would think he poisoned it or at least that is what I thought Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gus took a gamble and lost. I really wish we had more incite into his thinking during the whole thing. He strikes me as a fascinating character. agreed.... I know the mystery behind him helped sell the show and all interesting guy I want to know the deal with the soup he wanted both of them to try the soup so bad you would think he poisoned it or at least that is what I thought I am so glad you mentioned that as I had completely overlooked that amazing detail. Try another direction with the same thought.... Remember what they were talking about while eating the soup (Gus and Walt)? Gus was talking about food evoking past memories to which Walt just blurts out the chemical and physiological mechanisms that associate taste and memory while missing the potential significance of the soup itself. There was something in that soup that brought back good memories for Gus so much so that he made it for both of them (as you mention) for the two to experience and both just overlooked/blew it off as a passing detail of little consequence. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:12:56 PM EDT
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He felt bad because he dragged him into that world.
A quasi-authority figure telling a former student to help him cook meth... |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:13:33 PM EDT
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Walt was searching for accomplishment and recognition. Jesse was the dumb kid who he couldn't get through to. When he was actually able to see Jesse learning something, it was intoxicating. Teachers feel fulfilled when they see results with their students. This was also an accomplishment in the business sense, helping numb the resentment he felt about Gray Matter's success.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:17:44 PM EDT
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Wasn't Jesse supposed to die but the actor was doing a good job so they changed it? He should have died. It would have made more sense.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:21:28 PM EDT
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Wasn't Jesse supposed to die but the actor was doing a good job so they changed it? He should have died. It would have made more sense. If I remember correctly, he was supposed to die in season1. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:23:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He felt bad because he dragged him into that world. A quasi-authority figure telling a former student to help him cook meth... I think Walter White really broke that kid and never made him whole, time and time again. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:26:27 PM EDT
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I hated Jessie by the last season of the show. I was hoping someone would kill him. we're on the same page my friend |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:28:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I remember correctly, he was supposed to die in season1. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wasn't Jesse supposed to die but the actor was doing a good job so they changed it? He should have died. It would have made more sense. If I remember correctly, he was supposed to die in season1.  |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Every detail was considered. Down to the colors used in each individual scene. Each color has an overarching theme. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:34:16 PM EDT
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Father figure was part of it, but Jesse was the only one who knew everything about Walt's operation. Though unreliable, Jesse was Walt's most trustworthy criminal associate due to their pre-existing student/teacher relationship (always calls him Mr. White). He was useful and easily manipulated.
Walt's relationship with Jesse is the last remnant of his old life. When he finally lets go and orders the hit, he completes his transformation into Heisenberg. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:45:45 PM EDT
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I got halfway through season 2 and quit out of boredom. I couldn't like any of the characters and their personal relationships, which seemed to be most of what the show was about, were uninteresting to me. Walt's an idiot and Jesse's so fucking stupid I'm surprised he can feed himself.
Does it really get that much better after season 2? If so maybe I'll give it another try. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:46:24 PM EDT
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In a nutshell, WW wanted to instill a work ethic and live by your word.
When Jesse said, " Fuck this" he turned the screws. Even though they were meth dealers, WW lived up to a code and wanted him to live by it no matter what profession he chose. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:52:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: White was a meth dealing serial killer. So? No one he smoked was a loss to society. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:58:57 PM EDT
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Even Mike (Arfcom's hero) had it coming. The only person I feel bad for was Gale Boetticher. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, with the exception of Jesse's girlfriend, White never killed anyone who didn't have it coming iirc. Not exactly a serial killer in the strictest since, but a murderer certainly. Even Mike (Arfcom's hero) had it coming. The only person I feel bad for was Gale Boetticher. No, the worst one was the kid on the motorcycle. I was like, DAMN, they shot the kid. 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You watched 2 episodes about these characters. The people discussing the show watched 62. You missed out on some very significant character development. Frankly, you have no business discussing the characters based on how little you know about them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. No shit In watched one or two episodes to see if there was something redeeming about these characters. There wasn't. Given the general views on drug use expressed here, I don't get why any one liked these characters. You watched 2 episodes about these characters. The people discussing the show watched 62. You missed out on some very significant character development. Frankly, you have no business discussing the characters based on how little you know about them. To the person who said "bad writing": This was arguably the best written show ever produced on TV, certainly one of the top five (Justified would also be on that list). |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:11:18 PM EDT
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By all logical and strategic rights, Walt should have allowed Jesse's "Old Yeller" moment long before he drew so much attention to himself.
The main character I feel sorry for is Hank. He was a true blue cop who chased down the bad guys no matter where it took him or who stood in his way. He died heroically. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:13:53 PM EDT
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Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Good grief Charlie brown we are talking about a TV show Nobody here did it. WW and JP did what they had to do to run a business if JP had not gone soft and WW had not gotten greedy they would still be going. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:20:33 PM EDT
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I got halfway through season 2 and quit out of boredom. I couldn't like any of the characters and their personal relationships, which seemed to be most of what the show was about, were uninteresting to me. Walt's an idiot and Jesse's so fucking stupid I'm surprised he can feed himself. Does it really get that much better after season 2? If so maybe I'll give it another try. You really need to watch the whole series to get an idea of what people are posting about in this thread. The characters werent fully developed until later on. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:22:52 PM EDT
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Walter felt responsible for Jesse. That's all.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:25:04 PM EDT
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I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. Agreed. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:27:33 PM EDT
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Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Jesus Christ. It's a show. On TV. Fake. Not Real Life. Do you Understand the difference?
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:29:36 PM EDT
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The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile lol. Vince Gilligan is a genius. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:35:37 PM EDT
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Because it's a TV show and not real life.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:36:27 PM EDT
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I hated Jessie by the last season of the show. I was hoping someone would kill him. Jesse was a good guy hint hint. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:39:44 PM EDT
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Would you say... ...Jimmies were rustled? I believe... ...That I would. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:44:54 PM EDT
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Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. 3. You forgot about Lydia (ricin poison) |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:45:23 PM EDT
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lol. Vince Gilligan is a genius. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile lol. Vince Gilligan is a genius. The writer in the video posted above, admitted that Jessie was supposed to die. Others convinced him not to. It doesn't get much clearer than that. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:48:50 PM EDT
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Meh, with the exception of Jesse's girlfriend, White never killed anyone who didn't have it coming iirc. Not exactly a serial killer in the strictest since, but a murderer certainly. She had it coming too, self destructive people always find a way to fuck themselves up. The worst ones, like her, drag others down with them. Poor Q was stuck with her as a daughter!!!! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:52:09 PM EDT
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Self-defense shooting, but true. Should have said murdered 1 person. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. Self-defense shooting, but true. Should have said murdered 1 person. He killed the friendly neonazi. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:57:20 PM EDT
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This thread got weird.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:08:14 PM EDT
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He killed the friendly neonazi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. Self-defense shooting, but true. Should have said murdered 1 person. He killed the friendly neonazi. He strangled Todd before driving off in the last episode also. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:09:49 PM EDT
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My favorite series ever. Deep like the bible.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:12:00 PM EDT
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He strangled Todd before driving off in the last episode also. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. Self-defense shooting, but true. Should have said murdered 1 person. He killed the friendly neonazi. He strangled Todd before driving off in the last episode also. Todd was the "friendly neonazi". |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:14:30 PM EDT
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Todd was the "friendly neonazi". Opie Taylor the neo nazi. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:30:28 PM EDT
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Choke yourself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Choke yourself. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:32:56 PM EDT
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The show was so popular because the writing was so great. Every detail was considered. Down to the colors used in each individual scene. Each color has an overarching theme. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Every detail was considered. Down to the colors used in each individual scene. Each color has an overarching theme. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:34:43 PM EDT
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Sell that to the tourists. Popular does not equal good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Every detail was considered. Down to the colors used in each individual scene. Each color has an overarching theme. I hesitate to ask but just what do you consider to be an example of "good writing"? |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:36:40 PM EDT
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Opie Taylor the neo nazi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Todd was the "friendly neonazi". Opie Taylor the neo nazi. Meth Damon |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:37:37 PM EDT
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The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ha, prolly the best written show I have seen and I'm pretty old. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:53:52 PM EDT
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The kid was a walking clusterfuck that needed guidance.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:59:14 PM EDT
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He killed the friendly neonazi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. Self-defense shooting, but true. Should have said murdered 1 person. He killed the friendly neonazi. So clearly I have forgotten everything about this show. 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 8:59:43 PM EDT
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Jesse was the son he never had. This.... The show was superb in every aspect. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:30:08 PM EDT
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This thread got weird. It is gd                
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:54:24 PM EDT
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Why did he have such a hardon for Jessie? Why protect the kid ? I have seen the series a couple of times and havnt figured this out. Why not? Jessie, after all, is what got Walt in the meth making business and was his partner. The typical 'rip-off and fuck your partner' mindset of the drug business which is prevalent in real life methhead scumbaggery would make for a boring show. |
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