OP you are screaming stupid.  You are the type of guy who has more hang-ups  than the fat people you obsess about.  Oh wait, you're also a '14-er.  You need to unplug your dial up modem, go upstairs and kiss your mommy goodnight.  It's getting late.....

While running might not be good for weightless, IMHO (non professional at that) I think that it's good for conditioning and helping among other exorcises increasing Vo2 max.

For the peeps that do know a lot about this, does weightlifting have the same cardiovascular effects as running? (or biking, and swimming?)

It was about 30% with lifting while in. Tough to find time and out in the field a lot. Mostly I'd drink over going over to the gym.
Are you hiring?

I'm at your moms tonight but okay

Running turns you into a woman?

Not naturally skinny.  I race 100 mile ultras.

Im 32 6'2 probably 200 lbs my 5k is about 30 minuts so around 10 min miles burns 400 cals so 800 in an hour. My upper body weight routine came out to about 600 calories, usually takes about a half hour so 1200 calories in an hour... im guessing heavier weights doing legs would burn even more. Thing is i cant do much more than that half hour unless i did legs and arms on the same day. After my upper body routine my chest arms and shoulders are all fatigued. I could jog for at least an hour and i could pretty much just keep going on a bike...

Its stupid to discount any aspect of fitness. You should be eating right lifting doing cardio and flexibility. Warm up with some cardio do some weights and then follow it with some yoga targeting the same muscle groups you just lifted with so you dont get trex arms or cant walk up the stairs.

Why is this even a question?

Even getting out and walking is better for weight loss than sitting around.

Back in college I used to be a Forrest Gump running fool.  I ran ~20 miles a week around a track late at night because I couldn't sleep.  I was a trim & muscular ~180lbs.

Yeah, of course.. watching your diet sure makes weight loss easier.

I see these threads on here and I don't get why this is such a mystery.  The formula for losing weight is cut & dry.  It's the will & follow through that are the tough parts, at least for me.

If I started running to lose weight, I would quit trying to lose weight within a week, either due to injury or complete boredom.

So, for me, running is a horrible way to lose weight.

LOL no, I've been out of the Gulf for a long time, now I'm just a fat college student. (working on it, I wrecked my shoulder and ankle at the same time I hit 30 and my metabolism shit the bed)

 

My mother died in 1992.

The gyms I go to are full of fat dudes that talk all day about bulking, cutting, and pre-workout. Go outside to the track and you rarely see a fat body.

You were saying OP?



For real though, for weight loss you should do somewhat intense cardio AND lift HEAVY weights. Mostly cardio/circuit training though.

 

Truth bomb: Weightlifting can have better cardiovascular effects as running / biking / swimming, and it's called CrossFit.

Most runners diet, cause it's easier to run with less weight.

I prefer to avoid paying an exorbitant fee to do the same stuff I did in the Marines, but have a 20% probability of shoulder or back injury.

 

Most people I know that run / work out (hard) is so they can eat and drink whatever they want.  That said, they aren't full blown bingers because that simply doesn't agree with the lifestyle....

Back in '09, when I was running 5 mile runs, four times a week after I got off duty, I loved it.  Good way to unwind from the day.



But it wasn't making my 1.5 mile time any faster, so I had to stop doing it so much.  Intervals were still a good way to chill out after working, but not the same.



 

The joint thing is exacerbated because most overweight people who take up running for weight loss have atrocious form and essentially injure themselves through poor mechanics.  

Fatties should start with weights, pool, elliptical, bike.....

YOU can.  The people who that really applies to is fat people.  People for whom exercise works are still metabolically normal.  They might have a little extra weight, but when they take in sugar their body efficiently sequesters it away by restoring liver and muscle glycogen, which you needed because you just outran your shitty diet.  You know how much you can cheat and you eat accordingly.  In between meals, your body burns fat the way it's supposed to.  

A fat person eats sugar, because they're fat, and their pancreas releases a bunch of insulin that's floating around trying to get cells to take in glucose.   But the cells aren't buying, because they don't need it, in fact they have so much that they literally start shutting down routes into the cell to stop it from coming in.  But that shit needs to get out of the bloodstream, or else toes start falling off, so the pancreas pumps out more insulin.  They now have so much insulin that fat can't get out of fat cells (that's one of its jobs, I mean why break down fat after you just ate) so any cells that are actually working hard like brain cells start signaling for more food.  

This is insulin resistance, on the way to diabetes, and it's why metabolically fat people feel like they don't have energy unless they eat.   That includes energy for exercise.  It's a shitty position to be in, and requires changing the way you eat.  
 

You brought moms into this first, man.



Both of y'all are acting like children.



 

I try an encourage everyone I know to do a 100 mile mountain ultra.  It is a great feeling when you finish, hard to describe.  And when you win one...it's hard to stop.  Pretty funny though, every time I do one when I hit about 60 miles I wonder what the hell I was thinking.  Then after finishing I can't wait to go on ultrasignup and look for another.  You forget the hard part.

I got out of the Army in 1985, I run 12-16 miles a week and run a few middle distance races every year since then, I still fit in my old class A uniform. The original post is complete fail, get motivated, get moving

you've won an ultramarathon?

This is what I believe in.

I thought crossfit was for people who dont have time to work out.

Yes.

shade_1313 summed it up pretty well in lieu of saying Code of Conduct rule against personal attacks.