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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:01:45 PM EDT
[#1]
crazy eyes she had..
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:02:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:03:01 PM EDT
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Logically, there is no god, so bitch was crazy.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:03:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:03:17 PM EDT
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No comment.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:03:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Jesus - the Charlie thread didn't have enough atheist vs. believer butthurt in it we need to start a new one?
And yes, I'm in. 
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:04:54 PM EDT
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All in favor of burning the heretical OP at that stake?
Aye |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:05:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:05:45 PM EDT
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She was a true believer, who was willing to die at the hands of religious persecution.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:06:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Yes.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:10:31 PM EDT
[#11]
Anyone who believes the former ....... is the latter.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:11:45 PM EDT
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Did she experience visions from God or was she just having delusions? One and the same thing. There are some good scholarly biographies on Joan of Arc. Have always been fascinated by her. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:15:57 PM EDT
[#13]
She was Bat Crap Crazy and no one would date her.....
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:16:31 PM EDT
[#14]
She was batshit crazy. Bet she would have been a good lay.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:17:00 PM EDT
[#15]
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She was Bat Crap Crazy and no one would date her..... well she was a horse chick.. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:17:13 PM EDT
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Crazier than a sack full of rats in a bucket of Tabasco sauce. Got shit done though. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:17:30 PM EDT
[#17]
She's hot and I'd do her after the Hot Pockets were done. Chris |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:19:23 PM EDT
[#18]
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She was batshit crazy. Bet she would have been a good lay. The real problem was the virginity, hit that shit once7,then you have 3 years of crazy stalker to deal with.. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:21:19 PM EDT
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crazy bitch
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:22:46 PM EDT
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Arguably the greatest female in History. Ask Mark Twain. http://www.amazon.com/dp/0898702682/ref=asc_df_08987026823705569?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=pricegrabbe05-20&linkCode=df0&creative=395097&creativeASIN=0898702682&ascsubtag=1432922633_09468bc764e6a2b54f730689a81fd9e6_1941_402_950444378_6848 That's interesting. Never knew twain wrote about Joan of Arc |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:24:30 PM EDT
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The real problem was the virginity, hit that shit once7,then you have 3 years of crazy stalker to deal with.. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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She was batshit crazy. Bet she would have been a good lay. The real problem was the virginity, hit that shit once7,then you have 3 years of crazy stalker to deal with.. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile If it was good enough, I would have stayed and played. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:30:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Needs more Jane Weidlin.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:31:08 PM EDT
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It's a bit of a long time since her life, so I'm not sure I'm qualified to judge.
The Catholic Church did canonize her though. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:33:11 PM EDT
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She was a true believer, who was willing to die at the hands of religious persecution. Religious persecution? She was put to death for wearing men's clothing, in contravention of Deuteronomy. ETA: Though she was found innocent in the retrial. Too bad for her it happened after her death. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:36:32 PM EDT
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I don't know. Was David Koresh on a mission from god?
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:46:41 PM EDT
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Britain wouldn't exist for another 250 years after the Hundred Years War had ended. The land the English were "occupying" was English land to begin with that was being occupied by the French. It also took them another twenty years to get their act together. French victory in the HYW has much more to do with problems with the governance of England than a schizophrenic French teenager.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:59:20 PM EDT
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Anyone who believes the former ....... is the latter. Nailed it. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:01:05 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm going with "crazy." I don't believe that God speaks directly to people any more. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:03:50 PM EDT
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Both sides claimed God was on their side. Both sides were Catholic. The Dauphane, the royal Joan fought for, was an extremely corrupt individual who bankrupted his people and had orgies. God was not involved in that war.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:04:01 PM EDT
[#30]
I liked Jane Wiedlin's version better...
ETA: Just read through the thread again and realized I was beaten.  But at least I spelled her name correctly. 
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:04:50 PM EDT
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I don't know. Was David Koresh on a mission from god? He may have thought he was. But I think it's a hard line to sell these days, even to the believers, most will think you are just crazy. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:12:55 PM EDT
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Both sides claimed God was on their side. Both sides were Catholic. The Dauphane, the royal Joan fought for, was an extremely corrupt individual who bankrupted his people and had orgies. God was not involved in that war. Meanwhile the guy she was fighting against was all but made a saint after his death, the causes of which are primarily him being too meek and pious to decisively deal with his rivals. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:22:37 PM EDT
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Khaleesi.....
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:38:33 PM EDT
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If you are an atheist, then the obvious answer is that she had the cray cray.
If you believe in God, then I don't know if you can really say one way or the other. None of us were there, nor do we know anyone that was there. IF God spoke to her directly, noone around her would have known for sure either. It's an interesting conundrum. I do know that she got a raw deal from the oh so amazing Catholic church at the time. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:44:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:51:53 PM EDT
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I personally would expect some of both.
Many crazy people think they are on a mission. Likewise those on a mission are often viewed as crazy. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:55:11 PM EDT
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http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2011/12/15/1323945556068/Still-from-Luc-Bessons-Jo-007.jpg She's hot and I'd do her after the Hot Pockets were done. Chris Don't know how she actually looked back then. Popular media tends to glamourize her, while some feminists disagree with those depictions. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:00:29 PM EDT
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Nailed it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone who believes the former ....... is the latter. Nailed it. Yep all Christians are insane. You are right. Good lord almighty we need to just eliminate religious arguments from GD. This shit is ridiculous. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:07:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Well, according to Bill and Ted she is a little nuts, but historic.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:27:57 PM EDT
[#40]
4 possibilities:
1) Yes, God was speaking to her. 2) No, God wasn't speaking to her, aka BatShit crazy. 3) Something/someone that wasn't God was speaking to her. Satan? Voices in her head? 4) She was smarter than most in a very fatalistic way. (Burning to death for your beliefs is a pretty painful way to punch out, yet she was since Canonized.) Things to consider in relation to the above: -The Catholic Church Canonized her. -None of us were alive at the time. -Personal belief will persuade a person towards #1 or #3 above, or #2 & #4 (Religious vs Atheist) As a person who doesn't attend much organized religion, I personally prefer to believe that Joan was talking to someone/something, that was beyond our normal comprehension. The fact that she was Canonized only solidifies that belief. Was it God? I don't know. Did she have an incredible impact upon her life & times? Yes. Would she be considered bat shit crazy by modern society? Absolutely. Having said all of that, I'll refrain from passing judgement contrary to the Catholic church until such time as any meaningful evidence is presented to persuade me to do so. YMMV. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:40:49 PM EDT
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4 possibilities: 1) Yes, God was speaking to her. 2) No, God wasn't speaking to her, aka BatShit crazy. 3) Something/someone that wasn't God was speaking to her. Satan? Voices in her head? 4) She was smarter than most in a very fatalistic way. (Burning to death for your beliefs is a pretty painful way to punch out, yet she was since Canonized.) Things to consider in relation to the above: -The Catholic Church Canonized her. -None of us were alive at the time. -Personal belief will persuade a person towards #1 or #3 above, or #2 & #4 (Religious vs Atheist) As a person who doesn't attend much organized religion, I personally prefer to believe that Joan was talking to someone/something, that was beyond our normal comprehension. The fact that she was Canonized only solidifies that belief. Was it God? I don't know. Did she have an incredible impact upon her life & times? Yes. Would she be considered bat shit crazy by modern society? Absolutely. Having said all of that, I'll refrain from passing judgement contrary to the Catholic church until such time as any meaningful evidence is presented to persuade me to do so. YMMV. Please say what you would accept as "any meaningful evidence". |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:48:39 PM EDT
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Well, according to Bill and Ted she is a little nuts, but historic. And Noah's wife! If you want to watch the best film version of her story, watch Dreyer's The Passion of Joan of Arc. Falconetti, who played Joan gives one of the best performances ever captured on film. The film script was based on the actual court transcripts. She didn't get burned at the stake for wearing men's clothes. She was stuck in a catch 22. If she confessed to have a direct connection to God, she would be considered a heretic and would be excommunicated and not receive proper burial. If she denied that direct connection, she would be denying God, which would damn her to hell and go against everything she lived for. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:52:40 PM EDT
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As I said in the other thread and it applies here as well.
These threads always end up a shitfest between people of faith, agnostics, atheists, and anti-thiests. No one here is going to change the others minds. And no one is smarter or more intellectually superior to another based solely on religious/non-religious beliefs. I wish these threads would get immediately put in the religion sub-forum so we don't have to see them week after week after week. Here is a novel thought.....Believe whatever you want to believe. Do not criticize me for my beliefs, and I won't criticize you for yours. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:56:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep all Christians are insane. You are right. Good lord almighty we need to just eliminate religious arguments from GD. This shit is ridiculous. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone who believes the former ....... is the latter. Nailed it. Yep all Christians are insane. You are right. Good lord almighty we need to just eliminate religious arguments from GD. This shit is ridiculous. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:01:07 PM EDT
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Don't know how she actually looked back then. Popular media tends to glamourize her, while some feminists disagree with those depictions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2011/12/15/1323945556068/Still-from-Luc-Bessons-Jo-007.jpg She's hot and I'd do her after the Hot Pockets were done. Chris Don't know how she actually looked back then. Popular media tends to glamourize her, while some feminists disagree with those depictions. She was said to be short, stocky, sunbrowned, with dark eyes, a red birthmark behind her left ear, and a light feminine voice. Her black hair was bobbed short. There are two little drawings surviving from her time. On a 1431 document written during her interrogation, a clerk did a doodle in the margin -- a girl in a skirt with a sword. He would have seen Joan in the courtroom in Rouen, where she was condemned to death. Meanwhile, in the village where Joan grew up, a local artist dabbed an impromptu fresco on a wall of the Notre Dame de Bermont chapel, showing a girl in armor kneeling in prayer. It is generally accepted as representing Joan the Maid. There is also an Altarpiece commissioned by the Rene Duke of Anjou some have suggested might be of the Maid due to Rene's relationship with her but it would have been commissioned posthumously (1474) |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:03:11 PM EDT
[#46]
She was getting the band back together.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:06:10 PM EDT
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She was the right kind of crazy at the right time if you were on her side.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:08:47 PM EDT
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4 possibilities: 1) Yes, God was speaking to her. 2) No, God wasn't speaking to her, aka BatShit crazy. 3) Something/someone that wasn't God was speaking to her. Satan? Voices in her head? 4) She was smarter than most in a very fatalistic way. (Burning to death for your beliefs is a pretty painful way to punch out, yet she was since Canonized.) Things to consider in relation to the above: -The Catholic Church Canonized her. -None of us were alive at the time. -Personal belief will persuade a person towards #1 or #3 above, or #2 & #4 (Religious vs Atheist) As a person who doesn't attend much organized religion, I personally prefer to believe that Joan was talking to someone/something, that was beyond our normal comprehension. The fact that she was Canonized only solidifies that belief. Was it God? I don't know. Did she have an incredible impact upon her life & times? Yes. Would she be considered bat shit crazy by modern society? Absolutely. Having said all of that, I'll refrain from passing judgement contrary to the Catholic church until such time as any meaningful evidence is presented to persuade me to do so. YMMV. Your default position should be to question the church (your default position should be to question everything). It's their job to prove she was worthy of sainthood/on a mission from god/whatever, not the other way around. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:11:50 PM EDT
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Don't stick your sword in the crazy.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:19:53 PM EDT
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Fighting the English is always the Lord's work!!!
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