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http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/V1.htm Fighter pilots also learned new tricks to destroy V1's such as flying alongside the weapon and tipping over one of its wings, thus knocking it off course. Pilots also flew in front of a V1 so that it flew in the fighter plane's slipstream. This was enough to unbalance the V1 so that it flew off course. View Quote Damn, how would you like to get that assignment for the first time ever? How did that conversation go? [British accent] "Okay Nigel Billingsgate Humphrey The Fourteenth, what we're going to need you to do is fly alongside the contraption and gently nudge the bastard off course." "Yes, of course, sir. Cheerio!" [/British accent] That takes testicular fortitude that only a few will ever have. |
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The only time I heard about that being done was when the fighter's guns jammed.
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I've read about it before. They were pretty slow. Balls they had.
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How the hell did a prop driven plane keep up with a rocket powered missile? Edit: Pretty damn cool however they did it! |
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Funny, I just heard about this same thing today from a completely different source.
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I was wondering why they didn't just shoot them down, but that makes sense. This video I'm watching shows them shooting them down from behind and "tipping" them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only time I heard about that being done was when the fighter's guns jammed. I was wondering why they didn't just shoot them down, but that makes sense. This video I'm watching shows them shooting them down from behind and "tipping" them. From what I understand, the Brits developed the tipping idea, because that idea was preferable to closing in and shooting at a ton of high explosive. I imagine it was a bit troubling when that exploded right in front of your face. |
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Quoted: Pulse jet, not a rocket. The V2 was a rocket. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How the hell did a prop driven plane keep up with a rocket powered missile? Pulse jet, not a rocket. The V2 was a rocket. Ahhh...Thanks...now I'll have to look that up to see what it is... |
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The only time I heard about that being done was when the fighter's guns jammed. View Quote No, tipping became the preferred method. The problem with a gun shot on a V1 was that if you were close enough to get a good hit, you were close enough to take damage from the exploding warhead. On the other hand, if you put your wingtip under the V1's wingtip and then rolled it over, the guidance system went into gimbal lock and the thing nosed in. Helped if you did this in a area with no population. |
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I learned that when I was a kid; oddly enough, I got it from a comic book.
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How the hell did a prop driven plane keep up with a rocket powered missile? View Quote The Meteor jets were pushed into this service for exactly this reason. If the prop planes were not high enough or in the right position they could not catch them. Since the Meteor was forbiddin from service over the continent, they used them as interceptors. Even they had a hard time with this as they were not much faster than the best prop planes. I mean like not double the speed or anything. |
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Pulse jet, not a rocket. The V2 was a rocket. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How the hell did a prop driven plane keep up with a rocket powered missile? Pulse jet, not a rocket. The V2 was a rocket. Beat me by 4 minutes. They used Typhoons, one of the fastest aircraft to do this |
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Quoted: No, tipping became the preferred method. The problem with a gun shot on a V1 was that if you were close enough to get a good hit, you were close enough to take damage from the exploding warhead. On the other hand, if you put your wingtip under the V1's wingtip and then rolled it over, the guidance system went into gimbal lock and the thing nosed in. Helped if you did this in a area with no population. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The only time I heard about that being done was when the fighter's guns jammed. No, tipping became the preferred method. The problem with a gun shot on a V1 was that if you were close enough to get a good hit, you were close enough to take damage from the exploding warhead. On the other hand, if you put your wingtip under the V1's wingtip and then rolled it over, the guidance system went into gimbal lock and the thing nosed in. Helped if you did this in a area with no population. That makes sense. |
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I imagine that like in America, deep down past the stereotypes and general downfall that has occurred in our nations, lie men that would make their forefathers proud. In some cases they might not even know it yet, but someday they, or their progeny will rise to the occasion and restore their once great nation.
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I couldn't imagine trying that, especially in the days before ejector seats. I can't really blame them for doing that when there really was no other option.
I don't know how those pilots managed to fit in those planes with the giant balls they had. |
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I had forgot all about that. Thanks for jogging the ole' memory.
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V1 was a pulse jet after the fuel ran out it essentially glided into London and crashed .
From my understanding it was faster the most aircraft, but was pretty slow towards the end, comparatively speaking. the pilots to gain the advantage would attack from high altitude, diving down to gain the speed required to intercept. To fast, to slow, to late. |
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That era would have been cool as shit to hotrod whatever form of weaponry you were assigned. That said, Hitler was close to some scary stuff.
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I'll bet there wasn't any discussion.
I'm thinking it went like this: Pilot: Blast and Damn! My Ruddy bullet spitters are on the blink! I must stop that bloody thing before it kills the Queen! Right, lets just get this sorted. I'll wager that a slight nudge aught to put 'im right in the drink! LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!! Pilot: Right. Well. That wasn't so awful after all. I'll pass that along to my flight and we'll all have a jolly laugh about it down at the pub. |
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Common knowledge if you watched any of the original Discovery Wings shows.
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Beat me by 4 minutes. They used Tempests, one of the fastest aircraft to do this View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How the hell did a prop driven plane keep up with a rocket powered missile? Pulse jet, not a rocket. The V2 was a rocket. Beat me by 4 minutes. They used Tempests, one of the fastest aircraft to do this FIFY. |
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V1 was a pulse jet after the fuel ran out it essentially glided into London and crashed . From my understanding it was faster the most aircraft, but was pretty slow towards the end, comparatively speaking. the pilots to gain the advantage would attack from high altitude, diving down to gain the speed required to intercept. To fast, to slow, to late. View Quote Actually, they had a distance traveled mechanism that turned the elevators to full dive position at a calculated number of turns. One of the major uses for all the German agents that the British turned was giving false points of impact to the Germans so they would gradually make their V1s and V2s dive short of London into less populated areas. As a side note, the sudden tilt would cut off the fuel flow and make the motor stop; the Brits quickly learned to duck when things suddenly got quiet. |
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View Quote I was going to post that everyone should go watch a video so they could hear the damned things. Beat me to it. I learned in British history back in the eighties that besides the tipping working quite well they also weren't in a position to waste the rounds. |
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They were pretty easy to shoot down with anti-aircraft guns. They flew straight and at a fairly low-level. Their speed and low flight level was initially an issue, but gun-laying radar and proximity fuses quickly negated those. The majority of V-1s were destroyed by ground based anti-aircraft guns.
Another interesting thing is the Germans had to rely on reports from the ground to determine if they were hitting their targets (London). They would use reports delivered from their spies in England to determine where the V-1s were landing and to adjust their aim on future launches. What the Germans didn't know was that everyone of their spies had been turned by British intelligence and were acting as double agents. The Allies made the Germans think the V-1s were hitting on the far side of London, and so the Germans adjusted their aim to try to hit the center of London, therefore causing many of their future launches to fall short. At some point, they fitted V-1s with radio transmitters and those clearly showed the missiles were falling short. The German leadership compared that to the reports from the spies, saw that there was a discrepancy. They concluded that the radio transmitters were malfunctioning since their spy reports said differently. |
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View Quote Those are crazy sounding. |
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