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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:24:36 AM EDT
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I left the D 15 years ago. I don't regret it a bit. Detroit is never going to recover in our lifetimes. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:34:18 AM EDT
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After all the last place you would expect college graduates or IT job immigrants to want to work at is Detroit. Industry in Detroit is nearly dead - which means that the IT job market to support it is scarce, and not getting any larger. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:39:36 AM EDT
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But it's so cold!
Personally, I couldn't. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:46:55 AM EDT
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I dont know anything about IT. It would be a perfect place to film movies.
Hollywood could get a tax break. They could build sets and let the locals burn it down. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:52:43 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA.
Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:08:41 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Detroit area, it don't matter to me. I just see a niche to fill. I don't feel like moving to California with the neck to neck IT job competition over there. Sanj didn't work his ass off to move from India to work in the US to live around Obama's sons. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:17:59 AM EDT
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I'm guessing that the inhabitants don't care very much if their internet works, but they are probably interested in taking whatever you have in your pockets.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:29:46 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Food isn't that great. Many Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Slovac folks cashed in and took off. Pizza is still the best in the U.S. though. Despite what the New York and Chick-agains claim. I'm looking forward to going back to Texas. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:53:19 AM EDT
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Detroit area, it don't matter to me. I just see a niche to fill. I don't feel like moving to California with the neck to neck IT job competition over there. Sanj didn't work his ass off to move from India to work in the US to live around Obama's sons. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Detroit area, it don't matter to me. I just see a niche to fill. I don't feel like moving to California with the neck to neck IT job competition over there. Sanj didn't work his ass off to move from India to work in the US to live around Obama's sons. 
Good on ya!! Consider Grand Rapids. Hard. Buncha damn Capitalist pigs, bloodthirsty conservatives, and honest ta goodness America loving Rednecks. Unlike the South eastern shithole, GR is actually growing, and crime is low in comparison to most mid sized citys. Plus there is the bonus of better chow, lower taxes, cleaner town, and better schools. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:02:35 AM EDT
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Food isn't that great. Many Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Slovac folks cashed in and took off. Pizza is still the best in the U.S. though. Despite what the New York and Chick-agains claim. I'm looking forward to going back to Texas. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Food isn't that great. Many Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Slovac folks cashed in and took off. Pizza is still the best in the U.S. though. Despite what the New York and Chick-agains claim. I'm looking forward to going back to Texas. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:11:13 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. True. Living in Detroit is horrible. Besides the murders and rapes there is a constant wave of minor crimes. If you have a family (in the City) expect your cars to be stolen yearly. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:26:50 AM EDT
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I would just say NO.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:25:25 AM EDT
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Guy at work is from Detroit, said if you make a wrong turn you are in trouble.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:26:53 AM EDT
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Rape murder arson and rape.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:34:23 AM EDT
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Rape murder arson and rape. You said Rape twice. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:49:17 AM EDT
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I did some central office(Telco) work in Detroit couple years back. It was all decommissioning and tear out.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:56:45 AM EDT
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Rape murder arson and rape. You said Rape twice. I think one of those rapes should've been armed robbery. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:58:02 AM EDT
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Detroit (metro area) is booming and jobs are everywhere if you have a desirable skill. The area is struggling to find talent. Don't believe the hype, we have recovered but if we admit it that means no federal recovery funds. It pays to have negative publicity.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:59:20 AM EDT
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I'm guessing that the inhabitants don't care very much if their internet works, but they are probably interested in taking whatever you have in your pockets. Once they find out who he works for, they'll be asking him for some free samples. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:20:56 AM EDT
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I plan on working at a computer repair shop for about a year or so to gain some job experience before even considering it. So what's everyone's thoughts on the idea of Working as a Cisco network technician in the Detroit area? After all the last place you would expect college graduates or IT job immigrants to want to work at is Detroit. It's usually places such as Seattle or California where you would expect them to want to work at. A whole year before you become a "Cisco tech" Lol |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:27:25 AM EDT
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Rape murder arson and rape. The correct order in the D is rape, murder, rape and then arson. Covers up the evidence that way. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:31:24 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Food isn't that great. Many Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Slovac folks cashed in and took off. Pizza is still the best in the U.S. though. Despite what the New York and Chick-agains claim. I'm looking forward to going back to Texas. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You've gotta be at least part deluded to live there, and it takes all forms. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:34:46 AM EDT
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We have a friend's son that went to Detroit for his residency after medical school; he wanted to connect with his black roots. He was shot in the head during a car jacking on his way to work and now is in the vegetable patch.
I would consider other options. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:36:28 AM EDT
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The city of Detroit is a shithole as many others have said. Traffic sucks and most roads are not in very good condition.
I go there for business and some of the suburbs are tolerable but I would not want to live there for an extended time. The good news, the fishing is great not too far from there. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:39:39 AM EDT
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A whole year before you become a "Cisco tech" Lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I plan on working at a computer repair shop for about a year or so to gain some job experience before even considering it. So what's everyone's thoughts on the idea of Working as a Cisco network technician in the Detroit area? After all the last place you would expect college graduates or IT job immigrants to want to work at is Detroit. It's usually places such as Seattle or California where you would expect them to want to work at. A whole year before you become a "Cisco tech" Lol Yeah, not sure how working at a PC shop installing ram and DVD drives is going to net him a couple Cisco Certs and the associated net admining experience, in a year, unless he's going to DeVry or something during that time. OP: I started my IT career at a local PC shop as well, then moved into corporate IT support. Worked my way up to server team, and bounced around a few companies. Eventually left the field after 15 years. You keep talking about all the jobs being in California, but what you're missing are the major IT and Telecom hubs in Kansas City and the Dallas area. Unless you are born and bred in Detroit, I'd look towards one of those places over Detroit. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:14:01 AM EDT
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I wouldn't. But I get you want to get experience, so could be a stepping stone.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:31:11 AM EDT
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Get some experience, update your resume, and then move if you're sick oof Detroit.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:36:05 AM EDT
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The Detroit area has a pretty good arfcom crew. If it were me(and it almost was a few years ago-gf at the time was looking at north Detroit for a job), I'd look at Macomb or Oakland Counties.
The suburbs aren't so bad of what I've seen. I only visit the city for the auto show. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:39:05 AM EDT
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Detroit is pretty much like any other large city.
The inner city is a war zone. The suburbs are very nice. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:41:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:48:21 AM EDT
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After all the last place you would expect college graduates or IT job immigrants to want to work at is Detroit. Industry in Detroit is nearly dead This is incorrect. Industry is flipping booming in the Detroit area. In the short 12 mile commute I have every day, I drive past three automotive plants, six major defense contractors, and countless thrid party vendors and suppliers. Chrysler, Ford, GD, BAE, Oshkosh Defense, Curtiss Wright, the GM Worldwide Technical Center, Kuka...and the list goes on. I thought the same thing you do when I moved here, and my preconceptions have been thoroughly destroyed. Downtown might be having some problems, but the greater Detroit metropolitan area is doing just fine. Bottom line: if I was in the IT industry, the Detroit metro area would have countless opportunities. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:48:37 AM EDT
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Consider Grand Rapids. Hard. ... This. Continued growth area. Also, Traverse City. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:49:47 AM EDT
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Detroit area, it don't matter to me. I just see a niche to fill. I don't feel like moving to California with the neck to neck IT job competition over there. Sanj didn't work his ass off to move from India to work in the US to live around Obama's sons. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Detroit area, it don't matter to me. I just see a niche to fill. I don't feel like moving to California with the neck to neck IT job competition over there. Sanj didn't work his ass off to move from India to work in the US to live around Obama's sons. Bud, it's that way EVERYWHERE. You're going to be competing against Sanj in the D area as well of the rest of the country, plus he's willing to work for half what you are. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:53:40 AM EDT
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Industry in Detroit is nearly dead - which means that the IT job market to support it is scarce, and not getting any larger. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After all the last place you would expect college graduates or IT job immigrants to want to work at is Detroit. Industry in Detroit is nearly dead - which means that the IT job market to support it is scarce, and not getting any larger. You have no idea what you are talking about. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/2015/02/12/report-metro-detroit-tech-sector-hot/23304425/ OP there is a lot of IT work in this area and it pays well. I would definitely consider |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:53:45 AM EDT
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I don't know anything about IT. It would be a perfect place to film movies. Hollywood could get a tax break. They could build sets and let the locals burn it down. 12 Monkeys on SciFi is set in a post apocalypse 2035. Filmed in the D. No need for any set dressing at all. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:53:49 AM EDT
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Detroit, no. Detroit area, maybe. I have 2 BIL's that work in the Detroit "area"(Ann Arobor, and Dearborn) and they like it.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:54:47 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Huh? 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:05:53 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Huh? He's not joking. In MI you need a handgun permit. That being said occasionally I travel to Detroit for work and have always had a great time. There are very nice areas and very bad ones. Cost of living is cheap and it wouldn't be a bad place for a single guy. Have dinner at Slows followers by a drink at the Old Miami. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:09:15 AM EDT
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A former co worker just moved there from here in the Houston area and thinks it is great. He is working for Ford in Dearborn. He had a hard time finding a house however. The way he described the area, I would consider the move.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:10:46 AM EDT
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Food isn't that great. Many Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Slovac folks cashed in and took off. Pizza is still the best in the U.S. though. Despite what the New York and Chick-agains claim. I'm looking forward to going back to Texas. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Food isn't that great. Many Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Slovac folks cashed in and took off. Pizza is still the best in the U.S. though. Despite what the New York and Chick-agains claim. I'm looking forward to going back to Texas. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile See, on the pizza...^^^this guy right here knows what's up.^^^ But there are still other food joints around that are damned good, just got to know where to look. Some of the best lunch delis in the country too, IMO. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:17:52 AM EDT
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well when I was in iraq for a year doing that kind of job I got paid $250k
whats the hazard pay for detroit like? |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:24:51 AM EDT
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At least you'll get a good chance to use all of those guns that you own...
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:24:54 AM EDT
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Detroit area, it don't matter to me. I just see a niche to fill. I don't feel like moving to California with the neck to neck IT job competition over there. Sanj didn't work his ass off to move from India to work in the US to live around Obama's sons. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Detroit area, it don't matter to me. I just see a niche to fill. I don't feel like moving to California with the neck to neck IT job competition over there. Sanj didn't work his ass off to move from India to work in the US to live around Obama's sons. With a year as a computer tech you will not get any job as a Cisco tech. Completely different field. Any other experience? Certification for Cisco? |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:25:02 AM EDT
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A former co worker just moved there from here in the Houston area and thinks it is great. He is working for Ford in Dearborn. He had a hard time finding a house however. The way he described the area, I would consider the move. One of my brother in laws work there, he buying a house now. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:29:54 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Threadjack: So, what would a Michigander need to know about moving to TN? Thinking about a move South and the wife and I loved our vacations there. End Threadjack. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:38:52 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Threadjack: So, what would a Michigander need to know about moving to TN? Thinking about a move South and the wife and I loved our vacations there. End Threadjack. Chattanooga is nice and booming. Make 'Rockytop' your ringtone and you'll fit in. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:46:00 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Threadjack: So, what would a Michigander need to know about moving to TN? Thinking about a move South and the wife and I loved our vacations there. End Threadjack. Chattanooga is nice and booming. Make 'Rockytop' your ringtone and you'll fit in. I loved what I saw of Chattanooga. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 10:03:20 AM EDT
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No handgun permit needed anymore, same as buying a long gun now. Airguns are now airguns, not firearms and silencers are now legal. The gun laws have dramatically improved in the last few years. Auto industry is popping again now that our industry right sized and people are buying cars. Suburbs are still as nice as anywhere in the country and city of Detroit proper is once again...attracting white residents. City council is acting human, mayor is solid, police chief solid and they all play nice with the governor now. We absolutely bottomed out in 2009 and we're crawling towards a new normal.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 10:13:17 AM EDT
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Detroit, or Detroit AREA. Massive, huge, giant fucking difference. Novi and Rochester Hills are fucking solid and in the Detroit area. Redford, Inkster, Garden City, shit holes. Detroit itself, obvious shit hole that only going even deeper in the shitter. I moved out of Michigan altogether because I was sick of being harassed when registering handguns, along with outlandish taxes, shitty weather, and all sorts of undesireable shit. Miss the food though. Food isn't that great. Many Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Slovac folks cashed in and took off. Pizza is still the best in the U.S. though. Despite what the New York and Chick-agains claim. I'm looking forward to going back to Texas. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah no shit. I fucking hate NYC but they do make the best pizza |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 11:03:23 AM EDT
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Detroit area, it don't matter to me. I just see a niche to fill. I don't feel like moving to California with the neck to neck IT job competition over there. Sanj didn't work his ass off to move from India to work in the US to live around Obama's sons. There are a SHITLOAD of Indian and Pakistani IT workers and engineers in the Detroit area. Also the largest Middle Eastern population outside of, well, the Middle East. So definitely you will meet "Sanj", whoever that is. For what it's worth, I've been very impressed with the techs I've met from that part of the world. There is a lot going on downtown Detroit these days, job-wise. The suburbs, particularly Oakland County, are very nice and totally different from Detroit in terms of environment and crime. Gun laws are much better now too. Full auto, silencers, maybe SBR/SBS (not sure if that passed), CCW with liveable restrictions (still need to work on that). It's not paradise, but it'll do. |
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