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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:07:31 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 1:21:50 AM EDT
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They included the bad Sig P290, but not the good P938 or great P239?

Fail.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 1:23:58 AM EDT
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I'm surprised Walters are not more popular. They need better marketing.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 1:24:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 1:25:53 AM EDT
[#4]
Whatever.........

Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 1:30:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 1:35:00 AM EDT
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I love mine.  I've shot all of the others except the new Glock, and think I made the right decision.



Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:14:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:17:52 AM EDT
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Walther PPS? Give me a fucking break.


Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:18:18 AM EDT
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Walther PPS works out of the box. My only complaint is that it's so thin, the grip doesn't feel as good as the P99 double stack.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:24:28 AM EDT
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Your complaint about a single stack gun is that it is thin?
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:27:55 AM EDT
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Shield. All day.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:28:33 AM EDT
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As a PPS owner/daily carrier, I have the opposite reaction.  Mags are expensive, that's my only beef with it.


 



ETA: holsters were an issue too until I found http://pjholster.com/products/inside-waistband-holster-gallery
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:29:10 AM EDT
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WTF planet are you on?

Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:32:05 AM EDT
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I predict much butthurt about the taurus being in the top 3.  BTW I love my 709 slim.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:33:45 AM EDT
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Shield. All day.
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Wonder why it is sold out everywhere....

 
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:35:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:42:16 AM EDT
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Walther PPS works out of the box. My only complaint is that it's so thin, the grip doesn't feel as good as the P99 double stack.
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That's like complaining that  Sweet Baby Rays bbq sauce is too sweet.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:44:09 AM EDT
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No mention of the Shield's FTE at 3:00.

Reviews are tough because no matter how you slice 'em they are to a large degree subjective.  The only factual result is the 1000 round  challenge.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:46:07 AM EDT
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Actually, I did like they mentioned the Taurus Slim.

I had one, ran like a champ, shot very well.  Also, very reliable.  My friend that bought it from me won't sell it back.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:47:29 AM EDT
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Pffft...

Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:49:14 AM EDT
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Apple/glock phanBoi.  Figgers, fucking 03-er.















Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:51:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:52:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:53:01 AM EDT
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I predict much butthurt about the taurus being in the top 3.  BTW I love my 709 slim.
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I have the 709 and a 9mm Shield. Have had zero issues out of both.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:53:48 AM EDT
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Everyday.
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Shield. All day.

Everyday.





Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:54:28 AM EDT
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http://www.gunsandammo.com/handguns/compacts/single-stack-9mm-shootout/



Surprising results at the end of the video but all of the participants agreed, the Walther PPS reigns supreme in the 9mm single stack class.
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But try to tell people that...
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:55:27 AM EDT
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Sounds like they shot what they were sent by the manufacturers their advertisers.
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:02:43 AM EDT
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I'll stick with my Springfield EMP.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:08:18 AM EDT
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Sounds like they shot what they were sent by the manufacturers.
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And the Shield was a ringer - I'd expect it to have been fluffed and buffed and it had aftermarket sights, but it apparently wasn't that good.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:08:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:13:45 AM EDT
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Walther PPS works out of the box. My only complaint is that it's so thin, the grip doesn't feel as good as the P99 double stack.
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Huh.  You think it's because it's a single stack?  
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:17:21 AM EDT
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  As a PPS owner/daily carrier, I have the opposite reaction.  Mags are expensive, that's my only beef with it.

 



ETA: holsters were an issue too until I found http://pjholster.com/products/inside-waistband-holster-gallery

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Walther PPS? Give me a fucking break.



  As a PPS owner/daily carrier, I have the opposite reaction.  Mags are expensive, that's my only beef with it.

 



ETA: holsters were an issue too until I found http://pjholster.com/products/inside-waistband-holster-gallery





 
Or a Comp-Tac.  Or any G26 holster,
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:19:01 AM EDT
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http://www.gunsandammo.com/handguns/compacts/single-stack-9mm-shootout/

Surprising results at the end of the video but all of the participants agreed, the Walther PPS reigns supreme in the 9mm single stack class.
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Until the trigger quits resetting.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:27:37 AM EDT
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Guns and Ammo....  

Did they dig up an article from 1987 to fill most of the article again, or did they actually try to write something original.   I gave up on gun rags, when I noticed that I could go back several years and find the exact same article already published in previous editions.  

That and it seemed like whatever gun they  were praising tended to be whomever was their biggest advertiser.   It's like trusting a car salesman to give you an honest assessment about different brands of cars; and this comes from a former car salesman.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:28:53 AM EDT
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They included the bad Sig P290, but not the good P938 or great P239?

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Or the best shooting single stack nine (IMHO) the 225
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:32:48 AM EDT
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I agree,  PPS is far underrated
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:32:50 AM EDT
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I used to have a 9mm PPS that I put 600-700 flawless rounds through, it had almost match accuracy. A little heavy, but a great pistol. I did not care for the butt mag release, gave it to my niece  when she graduated from vet school-- she loves it. I get by carrying a 9c, about the same weight and more rounds.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:33:50 AM EDT
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Why is it so important to NOT lube or clean a gun for testing? Every gun I purchased is cleaned and lubed before putting it into full time service.

And you know what else grinds my gears? The YouTube gun reviewers that "test" accuracy. Who is to say they are any good at shooting or holding a firearm steady? Unless the firearm is clamped in a vice their accuracy test doesn't mean anything.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:34:08 AM EDT
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I've owned a PPS 9mm, a Shield 9 and shot the XDS9 and very recently the G43. I like the Shield the best of those four.

When I shot the PPS I had serious muzzle flip issues with hotter loads. Combined with the ergos it was more difficult for me to keep the pistol on target. IMHO the Shield was easier to shoot.

I also enjoyed shooting the G43 and thought it was a good piece. If I ever get the itch for a slim 9mm again I'll probably get one to tool around with.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:36:14 AM EDT
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I love my PPS
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:46:45 AM EDT
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I'll stick with my Springfield EMP.
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you can buy 2 or almost 3 of any of the other guns for the price of an EMP.  Not knocking it, I would love to have one and it's on my dream list of guns. Just sayin though.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:49:53 AM EDT
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They said sub $600 guns. What's the msrp on the 938 ava 239?
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:50:08 AM EDT
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Or the best shooting single stack nine (IMHO) the 225
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They included the bad Sig P290, but not the good P938 or great P239?

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Or the best shooting single stack nine (IMHO) the 225


Meh.  I've got a 225, and a P-6, but the single stacks I actually carry are a S&W 3913TSW and a 3953.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:50:48 AM EDT
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Or the best shooting single stack nine (IMHO) the 225
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They included the bad Sig P290, but not the good P938 or great P239?

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Or the best shooting single stack nine (IMHO) the 225

225 is a full size gun
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:56:57 AM EDT
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P239, Shield 2nd place.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 10:57:43 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2015 10:57:53 AM EDT
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Or the best shooting single stack nine (IMHO) the 225
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They included the bad Sig P290, but not the good P938 or great P239?

Fail.



Or the best shooting single stack nine (IMHO) the 225


Probably because it's a full size gun?

They didn't include any 5'' 9mm 1911s either.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 11:09:57 AM EDT
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After seeing how dismally the walther PK380 performed ( 4 of my friends all bought one, and all sold them after a multitude of problems) I was surprised to see how well the PPS performed.  I choose the Shield 9 mainly because of the thumb safety, I am a 1911 guy so its already habit to thumb the safety down as I am drawing.  So far it has gone through 3000 mixed rounds (including baby fart reloads) without a hiccup, Planning on putting the apex kit on it as the trigger could be a touch better.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 11:14:59 AM EDT
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Thread/Article title disappointment.

I was hoping for an "Old-School Premium" 9mm Single-Stack Shootout.

H&K P7M8
H&K P9S
SIG P210
S&W 952
Walther P5

Link Posted: 5/28/2015 11:35:24 AM EDT
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All you need in a single-stack 9mm is a Star Model B.



Old school is best school.
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