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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:22:17 AM EDT
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Where are FedDC and 'ol Depity Dawg to straighten all you naysayers out?
Kid with the camera was kind of a tool. So let him be a free tool. Cops were way out of line and pulling shit out of their asses (poorly). Instead, tax monies will be wasted, time will be wasted, some egos will be hurt, and resentment will be born from this (or at least bubble higher) when it gets thrown out because everyone can clearly see what a fucking joke the entire situation is. That cop will learn nothing, go back to protecting and serving people under whatever "law" he seems to follow in his apparently not-so-quick brain... And he'll run into another one of these people and start the tax wasting cycle over again. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:22:34 AM EDT
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He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. 
No, really.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:23:53 AM EDT
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Where are FedDC and 'ol Depity Dawg to straighten all you naysayers out? Kid with the camera was kind of a tool. So let him be a free tool. Cops were way out of line and pulling shit out of their asses (poorly). Instead, tax monies will be wasted, time will be wasted, some egos will be hurt, and resentment will be born from this (or at least bubble higher) when it gets thrown out because everyone can clearly see what a fucking joke the entire situation is. That cop will learn nothing, go back to protecting and serving people under whatever "law" he seems to follow in his apparently not-so-quick brain... And he'll run into another one of these people and start the tax wasting cycle over again. Some people get paid to be a waste. Especially when there are public unions involved. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:26:22 AM EDT
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He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. The officer claimed he saw him making "threatening gestures" not sure what that is or what law was broken. As usual that's not shown on the video. But if the officer observed the crime of threatening gestures being committed then make the arrest. The Sgt seemed to be making it up as he went and was not to sure of himself. I'd love to see the arrest report. But just going from the video the Sgt is an idiot and looked to be scared to do his job. Ask tell make. If you have PC for an arrest make it already. If you don't have RS that a crime was being committed let the guy go. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:31:02 AM EDT
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Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away.
No, really. Do you know more to the story? Isn't it convenient how these bullshit videos always start after these "activists" do what ever they do to attract the police attention? Why not document what you do before to show the injustice of the police involving themselves in the situation? The point is, we only know what is presented in the video, did he disturbance the peace? Who knows. Do the police have a right to investigate? Yes. Maybe it wasn't him, maybe it was another guy dressed like him. The officers investigation would probably figure that out and in the end it wouldn't have involved carting him off to jail if he did make an ass of himself. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:33:55 AM EDT
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Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:34:44 AM EDT
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He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. You can't just go around tazing people for suspicion of causing a disturbance. Whatever the fuck that even means. Come on dude... If that's the case then I am suspicious of a lot of people. Maybe that dude over there is slinging crack. Maybe that dude over there is a child predator. Better go taze them. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:05:42 AM EDT
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The officer claimed he saw him making "threatening gestures" not sure what that is or what law was broken. As usual that's not shown on the video. But if the officer observed the crime of threatening gestures being committed then make the arrest. The Sgt seemed to be making it up as he went and was not to sure of himself. I'd love to see the arrest report. But just going from the video the Sgt is an idiot and looked to be scared to do his job. Ask tell make. If you have PC for an arrest make it already. If you don't have RS that a crime was being committed let the guy go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. The officer claimed he saw him making "threatening gestures" not sure what that is or what law was broken. As usual that's not shown on the video. But if the officer observed the crime of threatening gestures being committed then make the arrest. The Sgt seemed to be making it up as he went and was not to sure of himself. I'd love to see the arrest report. But just going from the video the Sgt is an idiot and looked to be scared to do his job. Ask tell make. If you have PC for an arrest make it already. If you don't have RS that a crime was being committed let the guy go. After seeing the video, I would guess that he had to get his LT or CPT to do the report for him. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:20:34 AM EDT
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What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:39:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you know more to the story? Isn't it convenient how these bullshit videos always start after these "activists" do what ever they do to attract the police attention? Why not document what you do before to show the injustice of the police involving themselves in the situation? The point is, we only know what is presented in the video, did he disturbance the peace? Who knows. Do the police have a right to investigate? Yes. Maybe it wasn't him, maybe it was another guy dressed like him. The officers investigation would probably figure that out and in the end it wouldn't have involved carting him off to jail if he did make an ass of himself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. No, really. Do you know more to the story? Isn't it convenient how these bullshit videos always start after these "activists" do what ever they do to attract the police attention? Why not document what you do before to show the injustice of the police involving themselves in the situation? The point is, we only know what is presented in the video, did he disturbance the peace? Who knows. Do the police have a right to investigate? Yes. Maybe it wasn't him, maybe it was another guy dressed like him. The officers investigation would probably figure that out and in the end it wouldn't have involved carting him off to jail if he did make an ass of himself. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:46:22 AM EDT
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He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. Uhhh....NO. The officer's mistake was being an ass to begin with just because he didn't want to be filmed. I have no sympathy for the cop. If he can film me with his dashcam because i'm in "public" then he can sure as hell be filmed in public too. He needs to pull up his big girl panties and deal with it. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:48:35 AM EDT
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folks have to much disposable income, If no money in it they sure as shit ain't going
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:55:35 PM EDT
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I mean Im not for localities having frivolous statutes that allow for arresting for petty things (threatening gesture) or think "resisting a lawful investigation" isn't BS if you don't monitor how the cops enforce such a law. This video just seems to me to show a much better light on police behavior than 99% of these youtube videos do. He didn't blow his stack or over use force. He was patient and let the kid dig his own grave. My guess is if the kid didn't start ranting and raving and showed the same amount of patience as the police officer, the Sgt would have never called for back up and there would have been no hand cuffing or arrest. Im not going to be too harsh on the cop, name calling etc, for enforcing a petty law, that's his localities fault for having it in the first place. Since we never saw what the kid was doing, or not doing, that constituted a threatening gesture in the cops mind, we really don't know if the officer was using the law just to fuck with the kid or not. The only thing the video shows me is that the kid acted like the much bigger asshole.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:26:33 PM EDT
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I like the look and gesters of the female officer, she was all
and  at the sgt's behavior 
she knew it was stupid and wrong
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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:59:26 PM EDT
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Umm outside of the cop saying the word illegally what exactly makes him in the wrong here? He seemed about as polite and respectful as one could expect. The kid will have his day in court and the cop will have to prove the charges. Calling them pigs and homos aint going to help his case. You are one of those "You can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride" types aren't you. When did you graduate the police academy. Does a day in court give him back his hours spent fighting an illegal, made up charge, and arrest? Will he be compensated? What's the likelihood he'll end up out-of-pocket even though he did absolutely nothing wrong? |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:02:23 PM EDT
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Not a fan of videos like these* as they normally don't show what happened before hand.
That said. If you got a legal reason to arrest and plan to do so, then do it and be done with it. If you don't have cause to arrest then don't and don't make something up. *Videos from people who have recording before an encounter but you only see the contact, mostly trollers. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:06:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to me everything the Sgt did was derp. I really can't blame the kid. I'd be pissed as hell. Of course we don't see what the guy did (threatening jester). Maybe he did do something, who knows but from just the video the Sgt is an idiot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Umm outside of the cop saying the word illegally what exactly makes him in the wrong here? He seemed about as polite and respectful as one could expect. The kid will have his day in court and the cop will have to prove the charges. Calling them pigs and homos aint going to help his case. Seems to me everything the Sgt did was derp. I really can't blame the kid. I'd be pissed as hell. Of course we don't see what the guy did (threatening jester). Maybe he did do something, who knows but from just the video the Sgt is an idiot. Emeoba, you are right that the cop was polite. Thing is, if you arrest someone because you suspect they voted Republican in the last election, it doesn't matter if you are polite. And doing so will probably get the arresting officer called some insults. And those insults might well fit. The fact of the matter is there are LAWS and court cases about what a person can be 'detained' for. Simply 'acting suspicious' isn't enough. (Acting in a suspicious manner consistent with someone trying to illicitly sell drugs = yes, acting in a suspicious manner consistent with committing a burglary = yes. But there needs to be a suspicion of doing something illegal.) What I think needs to happen is we need to get more cases on the books that clarify when detention is allowed and when not, and this would start removing qualified immunity from officers (my general understanding, but I am not a lawyer) because it would remove that critical leg of 'while the officer was wrong and the action wasn't really illegal, the officer isn't an expert on all laws and so it was an honest mistake so he is immune from civil suit' compare to the fact that while an officer isn't an expert on the law EVERYBODY knows you need a warrant to enter (barring a very few circumstances) and so entering without one isn't an 'honest mistake'. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:09:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dumbass kid didn't obey a lawful order and resisted lawful detention. The genius took a situation that (if his story is true) would have been a stern talking to and an order to go the Fuck home and stop being an ass along traffic and turned it into an arrest and in the process made a complete fool of himself in his own video. What's lawful about it? It it lawful simply because the officer says it is? He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:10:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Read up on the Duggar threads Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thugs with badges. I simply see this too often to believe these are isolated incidents. Something is rotten in American law enforcement. Not all cops are bad, but enough are that this shit keeps showing up on YouTube and liveleak. Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Defended child molestation? Don't think I've seen that one. Read up on the Duggar threads Josh Duggar is a cop? There were a bunch of Christian apologists in that thread; did I miss the JBT apologists? |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:20:59 PM EDT
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Soo.. uhh.. He was detained for threatening hand movements and looking around in a park, and arrested for resisting arrest...
USA USA USA |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:32:59 PM EDT
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It looks to me like Sgt. Snowflake here is trying to use threat of arrest (and a TASER) as an intimidation tactic, and then just gets flustered and doesn't know what to do when it doesn't work.
Just like the kid (or anyone being arrested), needs to STFU and fight their battle before a magistrate/judge//jury/whatever, the cop needs to just STFU and act. If he believes has enough justification to force compliance or to make an arrest, he needs to STFU and do it. I think it's the camera that's making the cop restrain himself. And the bottom line is (for cops AND everybody else), if you wouldn't do it on camera, you probably shouldn't do it. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:43:27 PM EDT
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Emeoba, you are right that the cop was polite. Thing is, if you arrest someone because you suspect they voted Republican in the last election, it doesn't matter if you are polite. And doing so will probably get the arresting officer called some insults. And those insults might well fit. The fact of the matter is there are LAWS and court cases about what a person can be 'detained' for. Simply 'acting suspicious' isn't enough. (Acting in a suspicious manner consistent with someone trying to illicitly sell drugs = yes, acting in a suspicious manner consistent with committing a burglary = yes. But there needs to be a suspicion of doing something illegal.) What I think needs to happen is we need to get more cases on the books that clarify when detention is allowed and when not, and this would start removing qualified immunity from officers (my general understanding, but I am not a lawyer) because it would remove that critical leg of 'while the officer was wrong and the action wasn't really illegal, the officer isn't an expert on all laws and so it was an honest mistake so he is immune from civil suit' compare to the fact that while an officer isn't an expert on the law EVERYBODY knows you need a warrant to enter (barring a very few circumstances) and so entering without one isn't an 'honest mistake'. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Umm outside of the cop saying the word illegally what exactly makes him in the wrong here? He seemed about as polite and respectful as one could expect. The kid will have his day in court and the cop will have to prove the charges. Calling them pigs and homos aint going to help his case. Seems to me everything the Sgt did was derp. I really can't blame the kid. I'd be pissed as hell. Of course we don't see what the guy did (threatening jester). Maybe he did do something, who knows but from just the video the Sgt is an idiot. Emeoba, you are right that the cop was polite. Thing is, if you arrest someone because you suspect they voted Republican in the last election, it doesn't matter if you are polite. And doing so will probably get the arresting officer called some insults. And those insults might well fit. The fact of the matter is there are LAWS and court cases about what a person can be 'detained' for. Simply 'acting suspicious' isn't enough. (Acting in a suspicious manner consistent with someone trying to illicitly sell drugs = yes, acting in a suspicious manner consistent with committing a burglary = yes. But there needs to be a suspicion of doing something illegal.) What I think needs to happen is we need to get more cases on the books that clarify when detention is allowed and when not, and this would start removing qualified immunity from officers (my general understanding, but I am not a lawyer) because it would remove that critical leg of 'while the officer was wrong and the action wasn't really illegal, the officer isn't an expert on all laws and so it was an honest mistake so he is immune from civil suit' compare to the fact that while an officer isn't an expert on the law EVERYBODY knows you need a warrant to enter (barring a very few circumstances) and so entering without one isn't an 'honest mistake'. And this is where I have a problem. If you are going to enforce any laws, you had better know them better than your hand knows your dick. Would you let bus boy perform brain surgery on you? |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:44:39 PM EDT
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the guy should have just took off running.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:01:11 PM EDT
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Normally I will defend police......but the Sgt went full retard.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:05:37 PM EDT
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Uhhh....NO. The officer's mistake was being an ass to begin with just because he didn't want to be filmed. I have no sympathy for the cop. If he can film me with his dashcam because i'm in "public" then he can sure as hell be filmed in public too. He needs to pull up his big girl panties and deal with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He was under suspicion of causing a disturbance. Officer wanted to detain him. Depending on what that was he probably wanted to cuff the cumbass for officer safety. Shit happens all the time, he never told him to stop recording, just to put the camera down. Only mistake the officer made was repeating himself too many times. At the second "you're under arrest" he should have followed it up with a this is your final warning, and then just taxed the dumbass. Esp when he decided he should just walk away. Uhhh....NO. The officer's mistake was being an ass to begin with just because he didn't want to be filmed. I have no sympathy for the cop. If he can film me with his dashcam because i'm in "public" then he can sure as hell be filmed in public too. He needs to pull up his big girl panties and deal with it. Sig line |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:10:33 PM EDT
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Like how many cops and sheriffs are there is the USA and how many videos are there?
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:19:07 PM EDT
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1. If the cop saw the kid making threatening gestures to one or more passersby, the cop had RS for a detention.
2. The cop does not have to articulate his RS for the detainee. 3. The purpose of the detention is investigation to determine whether or not a crime was committed or attempted. 4. Detention on RS is NOT VOLUNTARY. One needn't make statements during the detention/investigation, but must otherwise cooperate with the officer, e.g., open/empty your hands, stand here, et c. 5. Failure to cooperate (except by silence) in a RS detention is resisting an officer, which is an arrestable offense. 6. The cop was probably legally justified in cuffing Junior when Junior said "I'm not putting the camera down." |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:27:45 PM EDT
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Thugs with badges. I simply see this too often to believe these are isolated incidents. Something is rotten in American law enforcement. Not all cops are bad, but enough are that this shit keeps showing up on YouTube and liveleak. Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Cite of an arfcop defending a child molesting cop? I too would like to see this. Surely someone wouldn't make such a claim unless they could provide a specific example. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:33:03 PM EDT
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Thugs with badges. I simply see this too often to believe these are isolated incidents. Something is rotten in American law enforcement. Not all cops are bad, but enough are that this shit keeps showing up on YouTube and liveleak. Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Provide a cite on the defending child molesters. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:33:52 PM EDT
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8 minutes? nope
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:38:19 PM EDT
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1. If the cop saw the kid making threatening gestures to one or more passersby, the cop had RS for a detention. 2. The cop does not have to articulate his RS for the detainee. 3. The purpose of the detention is investigation to determine whether or not a crime was committed or attempted. 4. Detention on RS is NOT VOLUNTARY. One needn't make statements during the detention/investigation, but must otherwise cooperate with the officer, e.g., open/empty your hands, stand here, et c. 5. Failure to cooperate (except by silence) in a RS detention is resisting an officer, which is an arrestable offense. 6. The cop was probably legally justified in cuffing Junior when Junior said "I'm not putting the camera down." My biggest problem with what we see on the video is that there was no attempt to do an investigation. Sgt. Derp approaches with taser drawn. There was zero attempt to talk or investigate. And as usual the video doesn't show everything. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:39:48 PM EDT
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Thugs with badges. I simply see this too often to believe these are isolated incidents. Something is rotten in American law enforcement. Not all cops are bad, but enough are that this shit keeps showing up on YouTube and liveleak. Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Cite of an arfcop defending a child molesting cop? I too would like to see this. Surely someone wouldn't make such a claim unless they could provide a specific example. You did see that it was Tomislav who posted the claim. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:40:02 PM EDT
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Cop wanted to clearly prove his own worth and power and be a total dick.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:49:24 PM EDT
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Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thugs with badges. I simply see this too often to believe these are isolated incidents. Something is rotten in American law enforcement. Not all cops are bad, but enough are that this shit keeps showing up on YouTube and liveleak. Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. You are going to need to back those accusations up. Links please. I'll check back later, as failure to do so is the kind of generalized bashing we do not tolerate. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:53:45 PM EDT
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Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thugs with badges. I simply see this too often to believe these are isolated incidents. Something is rotten in American law enforcement. Not all cops are bad, but enough are that this shit keeps showing up on YouTube and liveleak. Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Child molestation? Really? Cite? |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:00:18 PM EDT
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1. If the cop saw the kid making threatening gestures to one or more passersby, the cop had RS for a detention. 2. The cop does not have to articulate his RS for the detainee. 3. The purpose of the detention is investigation to determine whether or not a crime was committed or attempted. 4. Detention on RS is NOT VOLUNTARY. One needn't make statements during the detention/investigation, but must otherwise cooperate with the officer, e.g., open/empty your hands, stand here, et c. 5. Failure to cooperate (except by silence) in a RS detention is resisting an officer, which is an arrestable offense. 6. The cop was probably legally justified in cuffing Junior when Junior said "I'm not putting the camera down." Yet we will see page after page of "The cop was wrong!!!" The only thing he did wrong was to argue for too long. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:01:42 PM EDT
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RESPECT MUH ATHOTRITY  
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:03:19 PM EDT
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What disturbance?.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:07:22 PM EDT
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Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Defended child molestation? Don't think I've seen that one. Read up on the Duggar threads Links? We'd all love to see them. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:09:31 PM EDT
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Once the cop says you are being detained and are under arrest, does he have any legal obligation to tell you right then and there what you are being arrested for? Nope. Don't have to read you your rights either. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:11:30 PM EDT
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Defended child molestation? Don't think I've seen that one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thugs with badges. I simply see this too often to believe these are isolated incidents. Something is rotten in American law enforcement. Not all cops are bad, but enough are that this shit keeps showing up on YouTube and liveleak. Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. Defended child molestation? Don't think I've seen that one. You haven't. Typical GD revisionism. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:13:00 PM EDT
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And this is where I have a problem. If you are going to enforce any laws, you had better know them better than your hand knows your dick. Would you let bus boy perform brain surgery on you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Umm outside of the cop saying the word illegally what exactly makes him in the wrong here? He seemed about as polite and respectful as one could expect. The kid will have his day in court and the cop will have to prove the charges. Calling them pigs and homos aint going to help his case. Seems to me everything the Sgt did was derp. I really can't blame the kid. I'd be pissed as hell. Of course we don't see what the guy did (threatening jester). Maybe he did do something, who knows but from just the video the Sgt is an idiot. Emeoba, you are right that the cop was polite. Thing is, if you arrest someone because you suspect they voted Republican in the last election, it doesn't matter if you are polite. And doing so will probably get the arresting officer called some insults. And those insults might well fit. The fact of the matter is there are LAWS and court cases about what a person can be 'detained' for. Simply 'acting suspicious' isn't enough. (Acting in a suspicious manner consistent with someone trying to illicitly sell drugs = yes, acting in a suspicious manner consistent with committing a burglary = yes. But there needs to be a suspicion of doing something illegal.) What I think needs to happen is we need to get more cases on the books that clarify when detention is allowed and when not, and this would start removing qualified immunity from officers (my general understanding, but I am not a lawyer) because it would remove that critical leg of 'while the officer was wrong and the action wasn't really illegal, the officer isn't an expert on all laws and so it was an honest mistake so he is immune from civil suit' compare to the fact that while an officer isn't an expert on the law EVERYBODY knows you need a warrant to enter (barring a very few circumstances) and so entering without one isn't an 'honest mistake'. And this is where I have a problem. If you are going to enforce any laws, you had better know them better than your hand knows your dick. Would you let bus boy perform brain surgery on you? So since you are a woman and don't have a dick then you shouldn't comment on enforcing laws? Is that what you were trying to relay to us?
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:13:25 PM EDT
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Nope. Don't have to read you your rights either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Once the cop says you are being detained and are under arrest, does he have any legal obligation to tell you right then and there what you are being arrested for? Nope. Don't have to read you your rights either. I remember one old cop that arrested a guy who asked him, "Are you going to tell me my rights?" The old cop said, "Yeah. Shut up." 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:13:49 PM EDT
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1. If the cop saw the kid making threatening gestures to one or more passersby, the cop had RS for a detention. 2. The cop does not have to articulate his RS for the detainee. 3. The purpose of the detention is investigation to determine whether or not a crime was committed or attempted. 4. Detention on RS is NOT VOLUNTARY. One needn't make statements during the detention/investigation, but must otherwise cooperate with the officer, e.g., open/empty your hands, stand here, et c. 5. Failure to cooperate (except by silence) in a RS detention is resisting an officer, which is an arrestable offense. 6. The cop was probably legally justified in cuffing Junior when Junior said "I'm not putting the camera down." In before you are called a bootlicker. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:16:39 PM EDT
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I had critters tearing up my lawn. I traced their tunnels to a place where they appeared to surface. I built a cage around the hole at the surface, and had my 5 year-old stand watch over it with a BB pistol. My neighbor thought the setup was hideous and that my kid shouldn't have the gun. We argued vigorously. The neighbor tried to shove my kid out of the way and to kick over the cage. While no cops were involved, I did I defend the child mole station.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:20:39 PM EDT
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You are going to need to back those accusations up. Links please. I'll check back later, as failure to do so is the kind of generalized bashing we do not tolerate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thugs with badges. I simply see this too often to believe these are isolated incidents. Something is rotten in American law enforcement. Not all cops are bad, but enough are that this shit keeps showing up on YouTube and liveleak. Just read some of the TBL responses here. They've defended everything from murder to child molestation, just because the perpetrators had a badge. You are going to need to back those accusations up. Links please. I'll check back later, as failure to do so is the kind of generalized bashing we do not tolerate. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:22:15 PM EDT
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I had critters tearing up my lawn. I traced their tunnels to a place where they appeared to surface. I built a cage around the hole at the surface, and had my 5 year-old stand watch over it with a BB pistol. My neighbor thought the setup was hideous and that my kid shouldn't have the gun. We argued vigorously. The neighbor tried to shove my kid out of the way and to kick over the cage. While no cops were involved, I did I defend the child mole station. *snort* |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:22:19 PM EDT
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I like the look and gesters of the female officer, she was all and at the sgt's behavior
she knew it was stupid and wrong And this is exactly the problem with all the other cops that are not POSs. It was an OBVIOUSLY retarded situation that did not warrant an arrest, but since ratings reviews are probably next month and she doesn't want a "not a team player" blemish on her file, she went along. How come I never see the partner step in and say something in any videos when you see a cop being abusive? No, not all cops are bad/crooked, but the ones that stay silent are just as guilty when they stand idly by while this shit takes place. Following orders? I thought the Nuremburg trials proved that to be an invalid defense. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:26:03 PM EDT
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So since you are a woman and don't have a dick then you shouldn't comment on enforcing laws? Is that what you were trying to relay to us? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Umm outside of the cop saying the word illegally what exactly makes him in the wrong here? He seemed about as polite and respectful as one could expect. The kid will have his day in court and the cop will have to prove the charges. Calling them pigs and homos aint going to help his case. Seems to me everything the Sgt did was derp. I really can't blame the kid. I'd be pissed as hell. Of course we don't see what the guy did (threatening jester). Maybe he did do something, who knows but from just the video the Sgt is an idiot. Emeoba, you are right that the cop was polite. Thing is, if you arrest someone because you suspect they voted Republican in the last election, it doesn't matter if you are polite. And doing so will probably get the arresting officer called some insults. And those insults might well fit. The fact of the matter is there are LAWS and court cases about what a person can be 'detained' for. Simply 'acting suspicious' isn't enough. (Acting in a suspicious manner consistent with someone trying to illicitly sell drugs = yes, acting in a suspicious manner consistent with committing a burglary = yes. But there needs to be a suspicion of doing something illegal.) What I think needs to happen is we need to get more cases on the books that clarify when detention is allowed and when not, and this would start removing qualified immunity from officers (my general understanding, but I am not a lawyer) because it would remove that critical leg of 'while the officer was wrong and the action wasn't really illegal, the officer isn't an expert on all laws and so it was an honest mistake so he is immune from civil suit' compare to the fact that while an officer isn't an expert on the law EVERYBODY knows you need a warrant to enter (barring a very few circumstances) and so entering without one isn't an 'honest mistake'. And this is where I have a problem. If you are going to enforce any laws, you had better know them better than your hand knows your dick. Would you let bus boy perform brain surgery on you? So since you are a woman and don't have a dick then you shouldn't comment on enforcing laws? Is that what you were trying to relay to us? 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 4:29:36 PM EDT
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And this is exactly the problem with all the other cops that are not POSs. It was an OBVIOUSLY retarded situation that did not warrant an arrest, but since ratings reviews are probably next month and she doesn't want a "not a team player" blemish on her file, she went along. How come I never see the partner step in and say something in any videos when you see a cop being abusive? No, not all cops are bad/crooked, but the ones that stay silent are just as guilty when they stand idly by while this shit takes place. Following orders? I thought the Nuremburg trials proved that to be an invalid defense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like the look and gesters of the female officer, she was all and at the sgt's behavior
she knew it was stupid and wrong And this is exactly the problem with all the other cops that are not POSs. It was an OBVIOUSLY retarded situation that did not warrant an arrest, but since ratings reviews are probably next month and she doesn't want a "not a team player" blemish on her file, she went along. How come I never see the partner step in and say something in any videos when you see a cop being abusive? No, not all cops are bad/crooked, but the ones that stay silent are just as guilty when they stand idly by while this shit takes place. Following orders? I thought the Nuremburg trials proved that to be an invalid defense. Most likely she didn't know much more than we do. What we do know is the Sgt called for back up. She was back up. She makes contact with the guy crawling over the fence first then she walks over to the Sgt. |
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