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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:42:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:42:55 PM EDT
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did he request a court martial or take the NJP? I guarantee you she was told she was going to CO's Mast and her dumbass barracks lawyer buddy told her to force the command to take her to a court martial, and the command then had no choice but to go forward. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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big chicken dinner fo dat, WTF  No shit. When I was stuck helping wrangle retards and fuck ups we were kicking out, we could barely get a general under other than honorable for a shit bag who popped hot, went awol. He was caught and returned to us multiple times. He went awol a total of 4 or 5 times and missed a deployment due to this bullshit and still didn't get a BCD. did he request a court martial or take the NJP? I guarantee you she was told she was going to CO's Mast and her dumbass barracks lawyer buddy told her to force the command to take her to a court martial, and the command then had no choice but to go forward. Can you even get a BCD for an Article 15? I can't remember. Seems to me a General under other than honorable is as low as they can go. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:43:30 PM EDT
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You can find work with a BCD. Most civilians derive their knowledge of the military from TV and movies. They have no idea what BCD even means. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks pretty fucking happy for someone who's life is ruined and can't find work. You can find work with a BCD. Most civilians derive their knowledge of the military from TV and movies. They have no idea what BCD even means. I'll have to disagree here, a BCD pops on a background check, depending on what it's for. I'm not sure what her offenses would show up as. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:44:24 PM EDT
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The nails are not in regulations as I understand them -- certainly would not be in the Navy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The nails are not in regulations as I understand them -- certainly would not be in the Navy. COLORED NAIL POLISH WILL NOT BE WORN WITH THE UTILITY UNIFORM. FINGERNAILS WITH MULTIPLE COLORS AND DECORATIVE ORNAMENTATION ARE PROHIBITED |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:45:40 PM EDT
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Could be but that's what the military decided to hang her on, and its what will ultimately hang them. If she was an idiot, hang her on that, but to give her a bad conduct discharge over a bible verse, yep I hope she gets paid. If you are going to fuck someone over, do it on merit, not a bible quote on a post it note. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think there's more to the story than simply a Bible verse not being permitted. Could be but that's what the military decided to hang her on, and its what will ultimately hang them. If she was an idiot, hang her on that, but to give her a bad conduct discharge over a bible verse, yep I hope she gets paid. If you are going to fuck someone over, do it on merit, not a bible quote on a post it note. QFT. I agree with the poster that says it is a cool verse for the military. As for the others, you should read about the religious persecution during the rise of communism in Russia. Because it started the same way, a notch here, a chip there First no mention of religion in schools. No public display of worshop. Harassment to those coming and going to cathedrals. Once that was perceived as normal from the younger generation it was easy to go whole hog and kill the orthodox bishops and burn the thousands of cathedrals that once dotted the Russian landscape. But . . . Carry on with mah rules. . Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:46:45 PM EDT
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Big picture: In America, as founded, she would never have been given that "order". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it really against the military code of conduct to have a bible verse on your computer? I thought all military issue acogs came with a bible verse? I am not religious but also not anti-religion and it just seems to boggle my mind that actually would rate a courts Marshall level offense  Thats not what she got busted for. Dont get caught up on little things. Big picture: In America, as founded, she would never have been given that "order". Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:47:55 PM EDT
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QFT. I agree with the poster that says it is a cool verse for the military. As for the others, you should read about the religious persecution during the rise of communism in Russia. Because it started the same way, a notch here, a chip there First no mention of religion in schools. No public display of worshop. Harassment to those coming and going to cathedrals. Once that was perceived as normal from the younger generation it was easy to go whole hog and kill the orthodox bishops and burn the thousands of cathedrals that once dotted the Russian landscape. But . . . Carry on with mah rules. . Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think there's more to the story than simply a Bible verse not being permitted. Could be but that's what the military decided to hang her on, and its what will ultimately hang them. If she was an idiot, hang her on that, but to give her a bad conduct discharge over a bible verse, yep I hope she gets paid. If you are going to fuck someone over, do it on merit, not a bible quote on a post it note. QFT. I agree with the poster that says it is a cool verse for the military. As for the others, you should read about the religious persecution during the rise of communism in Russia. Because it started the same way, a notch here, a chip there First no mention of religion in schools. No public display of worshop. Harassment to those coming and going to cathedrals. Once that was perceived as normal from the younger generation it was easy to go whole hog and kill the orthodox bishops and burn the thousands of cathedrals that once dotted the Russian landscape. But . . . Carry on with mah rules. . Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It is more than a bible verse what are you people not understanding about that? Read the court documents provided. Also she requested the courts martial, she chose to represent herself. All of this is her fault the Marine Corps is not giving her a BCD for a Bible verse. They are giving her a BCD because she was a massive shit bird who thought she could out smart the UCMJ and her Chain of Command. She could have taken her NJPs, got out with an honorable discharge and gone on with her life. She fucked herself over and now she is looking for and gaining sympathy with half truths. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:48:07 PM EDT
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No. A BCD for refusing the lawful orders of a SNCO and later a CO. Well deserved as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, a BCD for refusing to take down a bible verse?
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:48:55 PM EDT
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The type that I refer to are those who jump to conclusions and offer their opinions as gospel - rushing to judgement - without benefit of the actual facts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bunch of dimwits saying "We know what really happened. We know her type." Yeah, well, we know your type. What's our type? The type that I refer to are those who jump to conclusions and offer their opinions as gospel - rushing to judgement - without benefit of the actual facts. No, actually we read the case. We know her type because we've all had to work with them. She played stupid games, now she gets her stupid prize. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:50:39 PM EDT
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Paul Clement is the attorney who argued the Hobby Lobby case before the Supreme Count and won. But yeah, what you said.
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Bunch of dimwits saying "We know what really happened. We know her type." Yeah, well, we know your type. Well, I was spot on without knowing anything. Imagine that. A former solicitor general is taking her case... but then maybe he just likes to embarrass himself. I wait 'til the fat lady sings, myself. You can find someone to take ANY case.... Paul Clement is the attorney who argued the Hobby Lobby case before the Supreme Count and won. But yeah, what you said.
Former U.S. solicitor general attorneys don't just take any case. The former US Solicitor general is possibly going to get two of the six charges kicked. The appellate court will then write in their opinion that the other four charges would still have resulted in a BCD and let the sentence stand, and she will be exactly where she is today, but without the religious game to play on public opinion with. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:51:15 PM EDT
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That'll happen if you act like a cantankerous bitch to NCO's and officers while refusing direct orders. I'm 100% sure she was unrepentant to the end. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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big chicken dinner fo dat, WTF That'll happen if you act like a cantankerous bitch to NCO's and officers while refusing direct orders. I'm 100% sure she was unrepentant to the end. Don't care about the girl, but using cantankerous? That's awesome. I'm adding that to my lexicon. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:52:41 PM EDT
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I really need to get my tank and stay out of any and all military threads in GD because they are always full of civilians talking through their assholes.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:53:17 PM EDT
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It wasn't on the computer in the sense of being displayed by the computer system, so there was no exploitation of government resources and intrusion into a DOD computer system to put it there. It was on a strip of paper taped to her computer monitor. Just like most people have a favorite Dilbert, Far Side, Garfield or Terminal Lance cartoon taped to their monitor. Didn't hurt a thing except for obviously some NCO's butt and he went after her for it. I wonder were all other computers within the unit inspected for such cartoons or sayings taped somewhere to the equipment and the users similarly reprimanded and told to remove the items? Hell, we used to have chicken bones hanging over the control panel of one computer to try and keep the bitch operating. Nobody complained about that one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't get to do what ever you want to do with a govt computer. There is no freedom of religion and freedom of speech on govt computers. She was stupid for not taking it down. She was stupid for all the other shit it sounds like she did She was stupid for not having an attorney represent her. It wasn't on the computer in the sense of being displayed by the computer system, so there was no exploitation of government resources and intrusion into a DOD computer system to put it there. It was on a strip of paper taped to her computer monitor. Just like most people have a favorite Dilbert, Far Side, Garfield or Terminal Lance cartoon taped to their monitor. Didn't hurt a thing except for obviously some NCO's butt and he went after her for it. I wonder were all other computers within the unit inspected for such cartoons or sayings taped somewhere to the equipment and the users similarly reprimanded and told to remove the items? Hell, we used to have chicken bones hanging over the control panel of one computer to try and keep the bitch operating. Nobody complained about that one. As far as the animal sacrifices, the KCMX used to require those -- sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:56:34 PM EDT
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Can you even get a BCD for an Article 15? I can't remember. Seems to me a General under other than honorable is as low as they can go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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big chicken dinner fo dat, WTF No shit. When I was stuck helping wrangle retards and fuck ups we were kicking out, we could barely get a general under other than honorable for a shit bag who popped hot, went awol. He was caught and returned to us multiple times. He went awol a total of 4 or 5 times and missed a deployment due to this bullshit and still didn't get a BCD. did he request a court martial or take the NJP? I guarantee you she was told she was going to CO's Mast and her dumbass barracks lawyer buddy told her to force the command to take her to a court martial, and the command then had no choice but to go forward. Can you even get a BCD for an Article 15? I can't remember. Seems to me a General under other than honorable is as low as they can go. No, you can only get a BCD at a Special CM or a GCM. OTH can be awarded by an admin board following an Article-15, but the article-15 authority does not extend to any discharges by itself. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:57:19 PM EDT
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The nails are not in regulations as I understand them -- certainly would not be in the Navy. COLORED NAIL POLISH WILL NOT BE WORN WITH THE UTILITY UNIFORM. FINGERNAILS WITH MULTIPLE COLORS AND DECORATIVE ORNAMENTATION ARE PROHIBITED Even stricter than our regulations. Our regulations allow for non-faddish / skin-tone nail polish as I recall. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 7:59:39 PM EDT
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If they would have allowed that, they would have been made to allow Ahmed to display the ISIS flag on his computer, good decision, and discharge. Monifa = Could have been 0bama's daughter. "We President now. I don't hafta obey orders if I don't want to." I'm pretty sure that's how her thought process works. And when she gets home, she will tell everyone how she was persecuted for being black. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:02:56 PM EDT
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It wasn't a Bible verse. Just some text that sounded sort of like a Bible verse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, a BCD for refusing to take down a bible verse?
rules are rules, but if she was a shit bird why waste time on a CM and just chapter her ass out, done and done and no messy headlines. chapter proceedings I assume are pretty easy to get rolling these days due to the draw down. Or if they are going ahead with the CM, why even mention the Bible verse. It doesn't matter if it was the fucking Magna Carta she had taped up in 3 places in her office/cubicle. If a SNCO tells here to take that shit down, it is her job to say "yes, sir!" or "yes, ma'am!", or "yes, sergeant!", execute a crisp about face, and get to taking that shit down. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:03:02 PM EDT
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The former US Solicitor general is possibly going to get two of the six charges kicked. The appellate court will then write in their opinion that the other four charges would still have resulted in a BCD and let the sentence stand, and she will be exactly where she is today, but without the religious game to play on public opinion with. Which is why I question why they were included in the first place. I don't think he would have signed on if they weren't included. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:03:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhere is her fucking cover?! |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:06:07 PM EDT
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No, you can only get a BCD at a Special CM or a GCM. OTH can be awarded by an admin board following an Article-15, but the article-15 authority does not extend to any discharges by itself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you even get a BCD for an Article 15? I can't remember. Seems to me a General under other than honorable is as low as they can go. No, you can only get a BCD at a Special CM or a GCM. OTH can be awarded by an admin board following an Article-15, but the article-15 authority does not extend to any discharges by itself. Right, thanks. ETA: I recall that there is an avenue for getting a General upgraded to Honorable, also. True? I have to try hard not to believe that this was all part of her plan to get paid. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:11:16 PM EDT
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Which is why I question why they were included in the first place. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The former US Solicitor general is possibly going to get two of the six charges kicked. The appellate court will then write in their opinion that the other four charges would still have resulted in a BCD and let the sentence stand, and she will be exactly where she is today, but without the religious game to play on public opinion with. Which is why I question why they were included in the first place. Because they're valid charges. And note that I said possibly -- there's a good possibility that's not how it's going to play out. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:16:50 PM EDT
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Which is why I question why they were included in the first place. I don't think he would have signed on if they weren't included. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The former US Solicitor general is possibly going to get two of the six charges kicked. The appellate court will then write in their opinion that the other four charges would still have resulted in a BCD and let the sentence stand, and she will be exactly where she is today, but without the religious game to play on public opinion with. Which is why I question why they were included in the first place. I don't think he would have signed on if they weren't included. because it goes to show a pattern of misconduct, that her little fit about wearing the proper uniform and not showing up for duty aren't the first time she fucked up |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:20:43 PM EDT
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See how easy it is. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, a BCD for refusing to take down a bible verse?
No. A BCD for refusing the lawful orders of a SNCO and later a CO. Well deserved as well. See how easy it is. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Most of those lawful orders she refused were about wearing the correct uniform when ordered to (which she repeatedly refused) and showing up for duty when ordered to, which she repeatedly refused. Those are VERY serious offenses, and had absolutely NOTHING to do with religious verses, expression, or anything else. They had to do with her refusing to follow orders related to doing her job, and wearing the correct uniform. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:27:56 PM EDT
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She got what she worked hard to get. Fuck her.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:29:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of those lawful orders she refused were about wearing the correct uniform when ordered to (which she repeatedly refused) and showing up for duty when ordered to, which she repeatedly refused. Those are VERY serious offenses, and had absolutely NOTHING to do with religious verses, expression, or anything else. They had to do with her refusing to follow orders related to doing her job, and wearing the correct uniform. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Damn, a BCD for refusing to take down a bible verse? No. A BCD for refusing the lawful orders of a SNCO and later a CO. Well deserved as well. See how easy it is. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Most of those lawful orders she refused were about wearing the correct uniform when ordered to (which she repeatedly refused) and showing up for duty when ordered to, which she repeatedly refused. Those are VERY serious offenses, and had absolutely NOTHING to do with religious verses, expression, or anything else. They had to do with her refusing to follow orders related to doing her job, and wearing the correct uniform. I get the feeling that the verse thing came up as part of a plan *after* the patter of misconduct had begun. I bet there's a litany of off the books counseling. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:30:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who paid for it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "No weapon formed against me shall prosper.” The horror. The horror. Not gonna lie...My first thought, too. "...but their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene." Second thought is: It isn't her office, it belongs to the USMC, and she needs to follow orders. Mach speaks for me as well on this one. It belongs to The People. Nope. Government Property. I'll bet it says so right on it. Who paid for it? |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:30:51 PM EDT
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Lol way more to that story than the article is telling us. I know exactly her type she was a confrontational little bitch the listened to a barracks lawyer who told her to take it to courts martial and the chain of command would drop it. Her chain of command called her bluff and made an example of her. This has nothing to do with her religion she is just trying to use that to gain sympathy. The case against her was built up through months of misconduct. Really just seems like lots of Christians in here are looking to be persecuted so they can bitch about something. This. Semper Fi and all that |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:32:50 PM EDT
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Article 15s are a rigmarole for all involved, and CM even more so. Frivolous Art15s & CMs never make it past Command/JAG review without getting shut down. Nobody has the time or desire to deal with these kinds of proceedings unless they are justified. Once again, I can almost guarantee this has nothing to do with religious persecution.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:56:28 PM EDT
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“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:07:42 PM EDT
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Next Bradley Manning will claim he's only being prosecuted because he had a "Jesus wept" sign on his desk.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:40:07 PM EDT
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The type that I refer to are those who jump to conclusions and offer their opinions as gospel - rushing to judgement - without benefit of the actual facts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bunch of dimwits saying "We know what really happened. We know her type." Yeah, well, we know your type. What's our type? The type that I refer to are those who jump to conclusions and offer their opinions as gospel - rushing to judgement - without benefit of the actual facts. The fact was she was prosecuted and convicted. I was not in that long, but I don't recall anyone getting an article 15 or higher that didn't do what they were charged with. The odds were pretty good that it was a correct and justified verdict. Honestly, I suspect they may have a better accuracy rate than the civilian side. 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:48:39 PM EDT
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did he request a court martial or take the NJP? I guarantee you she was told she was going to CO's Mast and her dumbass barracks lawyer buddy told her to force the command to take her to a court martial, and the command then had no choice but to go forward. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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big chicken dinner fo dat, WTF No shit. When I was stuck helping wrangle retards and fuck ups we were kicking out, we could barely get a general under other than honorable for a shit bag who popped hot, went awol. He was caught and returned to us multiple times. He went awol a total of 4 or 5 times and missed a deployment due to this bullshit and still didn't get a BCD. did he request a court martial or take the NJP? I guarantee you she was told she was going to CO's Mast and her dumbass barracks lawyer buddy told her to force the command to take her to a court martial, and the command then had no choice but to go forward. Maybe her barracks lawyer was smart and didn't like her much?  We had a few people get chaptered out that really were not missed.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:57:48 PM EDT
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Don't care about the girl, but using cantankerous? That's awesome. I'm adding that to my lexicon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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big chicken dinner fo dat, WTF That'll happen if you act like a cantankerous bitch to NCO's and officers while refusing direct orders. I'm 100% sure she was unrepentant to the end. Don't care about the girl, but using cantankerous? That's awesome. I'm adding that to my lexicon. I disagree, you have to be old, like at least 60, to qualify for cantankerous. Below that you are just an asshole. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:04:34 AM EDT
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“No weapon formed against me shall prosper.” The horror. The horror. Yeah.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:06:30 AM EDT
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Who is the manchild who was so offended by this that they demanded she remove it? Read the whole thread and the court documents. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:08:53 AM EDT
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It appears that being a special snowflake is not a career enhancing move
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:09:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:11:03 AM EDT
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“No weapon formed against me shall prosper.” The horror. The horror. Yeah.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:13:51 AM EDT
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The fact was she was prosecuted and convicted. I was not in that long, but I don't recall anyone getting an article 15 or higher that didn't do what they were charged with. The odds were pretty good that it was a correct and justified verdict. Honestly, I suspect they may have a better accuracy rate than the civilian side. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bunch of dimwits saying "We know what really happened. We know her type." Yeah, well, we know your type. What's our type? The type that I refer to are those who jump to conclusions and offer their opinions as gospel - rushing to judgement - without benefit of the actual facts. The fact was she was prosecuted and convicted. I was not in that long, but I don't recall anyone getting an article 15 or higher that didn't do what they were charged with. The odds were pretty good that it was a correct and justified verdict. Honestly, I suspect they may have a better accuracy rate than the civilian side. I don't have any real confidence whatsoever in the military justice system. However, there's not a lot you can do when someone tells her CO to fuck off and refuses a lawful order -- none of which appears to be in dispute. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:15:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:17:20 AM EDT
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I don't have any real confidence whatsoever in the military justice system. However, there's not a lot you can do when someone tells her CO to fuck off and refuses a lawful order -- none of which appears to be in dispute. Oh... is that what she did? That's a special kind of stupid. Even so... I think that particular verse is perfectly fine, and very warrior-oriented. It's even LGBTWhatever-neutral, and pretty much non-offensive to anybody without a massive chip on their shoulder. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:19:19 AM EDT
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“No weapon formed against me shall prosper.” The horror. The horror. Yeah.
Who is the manchild who was so offended by this that they demanded she remove it? Read the whole thread and the court documents. Bronchitis/aint-nobody-got-time-for-that... how about giving me the cliff notes? Marine refuses lawful orders. Marine gets in trouble. Marines posts up "No weapon formed against me will prosper" on her PC. SSGT tells her to take it down. Marine refuses, puts it back after SSGT removes it. Marine refuses to wear proper uniform. Marine refuses to go to work on Sunday as ordered by everyone up to and including her CO, who personally orders her to go to work. Marine probably gets referred for NJP, refuses NJP, and being a real dumbass decides to defend herself at court martial, where she is convicted and kicked out. Then she goes on Fox news and they publish 1/4 of the story, leaving out all the pertinent details that can easily be found by googling "US v. Monifa Sterling". |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:20:19 AM EDT
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Quote Historyshe's a fucking idiot and filed some dumbassery with an admin board that has no authority to do anything. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:20:34 AM EDT
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Who is the manchild who was so offended by this that they demanded she remove it? Read the whole thread and the court documents. Bronchitis/aint-nobody-got-time-for-that... how about giving me the cliff notes? SNM has a history of ingoring lawful orders dereliction of duty and failure to appear at here appointed place of duty. SNM foolishly requested a trial by courts martial SNM chose to represent herself and forgo her free lawyer. SNM lost her case SNM recived a BCD. SNM is now trying to drum up sympathy to go to court again with half truths. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:21:09 AM EDT
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Oh... is that what she did? That's a special kind of stupid. Even so... I think that particular verse is perfectly fine, and very warrior-oriented. It's even LGBTWhatever-neutral, and pretty much non-offensive to anybody without a massive chip on their shoulder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't have any real confidence whatsoever in the military justice system. However, there's not a lot you can do when someone tells her CO to fuck off and refuses a lawful order -- none of which appears to be in dispute. Oh... is that what she did? That's a special kind of stupid. Even so... I think that particular verse is perfectly fine, and very warrior-oriented. It's even LGBTWhatever-neutral, and pretty much non-offensive to anybody without a massive chip on their shoulder. Oh no, it's worse than that. The lawful order from her CO was to come to work on a Sunday and hand out vehicle passes, not to take the "Bible Verse" down from her PC. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:22:57 AM EDT
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Oh no, it's worse than that. The lawful order from her CO was to come to work on a Sunday and hand out vehicle passes, not to take the "Bible Verse" down from her PC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't have any real confidence whatsoever in the military justice system. However, there's not a lot you can do when someone tells her CO to fuck off and refuses a lawful order -- none of which appears to be in dispute. Oh... is that what she did? That's a special kind of stupid. Even so... I think that particular verse is perfectly fine, and very warrior-oriented. It's even LGBTWhatever-neutral, and pretty much non-offensive to anybody without a massive chip on their shoulder. Oh no, it's worse than that. The lawful order from her CO was to come to work on a Sunday and hand out vehicle passes, not to take the "Bible Verse" down from her PC. Sheesh. 
ETA: so basically she's full of it, and the bible verse had nothing to do with it? Figures... |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:24:24 AM EDT
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Don't worry. Obama will give a full presidential pardon, invite her to the White House and pin the SJW's Medal of Honor on her.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:24:55 AM EDT
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I don't have any real confidence whatsoever in the military justice system. However, there's not a lot you can do when someone tells her CO to fuck off and refuses a lawful order -- none of which appears to be in dispute. Oh... is that what she did? That's a special kind of stupid. Even so... I think that particular verse is perfectly fine, and very warrior-oriented. It's even LGBTWhatever-neutral, and pretty much non-offensive to anybody without a massive chip on their shoulder. Oh no, it's worse than that. The lawful order from her CO was to come to work on a Sunday and hand out vehicle passes, not to take the "Bible Verse" down from her PC. Sheesh. It's extremely obvious she was a poor excuse for a Marine who decided to try to drum up sympathy in the news while ignoring the real reason she was kicked out. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:28:05 AM EDT
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POGs gonna POG.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:34:29 AM EDT
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Sheesh.
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I don't have any real confidence whatsoever in the military justice system. However, there's not a lot you can do when someone tells her CO to fuck off and refuses a lawful order -- none of which appears to be in dispute. Oh... is that what she did? That's a special kind of stupid. Even so... I think that particular verse is perfectly fine, and very warrior-oriented. It's even LGBTWhatever-neutral, and pretty much non-offensive to anybody without a massive chip on their shoulder. Oh no, it's worse than that. The lawful order from her CO was to come to work on a Sunday and hand out vehicle passes, not to take the "Bible Verse" down from her PC. Sheesh.
ETA: so basically she's full of it, and the bible verse had nothing to do with it? Figures... Refusing a lawful order for not removing the "verse" from her PC was two of the six charges for which she was convicted as far as I can tell. The other four were significantly more important. |
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