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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:04:43 PM EDT
& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms.
I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc. I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing." This was from a "Gun Guy" as he calls himself.... It was when I got into the purpose of the 2A was primarily to prevent a politicized army led by a politicized Government turning on its citizens that I should go join ISIS. |
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I try to stay away from those conversations so I don't slap someone.
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Their minds are made up. You're just wasting your breath...unless he has weak heart...then thing could get interesting.
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Quoted: <snip> I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing." <snip> View Quote Yup, they can't stand being wrong, so they change how logic works to suit their needs |
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This gun guy sounds like a major league fudd. View Quote But when pressed on self defense rights he said he had a right to do so & carries his gun. When I tried to get to the core of what a person that comes against him or his family was threatening the "Security" of himself & that he has his choice as to what he chooses but I shouldn't have that right because I may want a FA gun, I was told I was wrong & I just want to kill people... Somehow in his mind the possession of one arm is more "Wrong" than another. Amazing... |
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You gain nothing by arguing with idiots. I don't agree. We have made major gains because fewer and fewer people by the Antigunners arguments. Sure some are a lost cause but winning politically happens at the margins. I say engage the idiots with reason, it does work even if it is sometimes really frustrating. |
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hows that saying go? -
never wrestle with a pig, you'll just get dirty and the pig will enjoy it |
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Group buy on a battleship? Arfcom GD Corporation buys USS New Jersey (or name your warship here) for a world tour cruise ship. I think we should go to Somalia and practice piracy suppression.
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Then the First Amendment only applies to vocal, non-amplified speech. Not the airwaves and CERTAINLY NOT the interwebz.
Oh, and anything you can print and distribute with a manual Guttenberg press...and no fair using helpers either. The First Amendment only protects your individual opinion. Now, about that Freedom of Religion...it only applies to... Quoted:
hows that saying go? - never wrestle with a pig, you'll just get dirty and the pig will enjoy it View Quote "Pearls...swine...you see where I'm going with this?" - JC, 32 AD |
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Google Ben Shapiro's interview with Piers Morgan. It was done after Sandy Hook. It will show you how to deal with that shit.
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& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms. I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc. I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing." This was from a "Gun Guy" as he calls himself.... It was when I got into the purpose of the 2A was primarily to prevent a politicized army led by a politicized Government turning on its citizens that I should go join ISIS. View Quote You didn't remind him that ISIS is full of anti-west socialists? |
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The divide between the various segments of this country, ethnicity, religion, political, etc., just keeps getting wider.
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I was told a few times "Obama is the best president we've ever had..."
I couldn't keep a straight face after that... It made me... |
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Well...Obama is the best president we've ever had........at setting a bad example. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was told a few times "Obama is the best president we've ever had..." I couldn't keep a straight face after that... It made me... Well...Obama is the best president we've ever had........at setting a bad example. I didn't have the heart to tell him if I joined ISIS he would be supplying me arms through the black market arms trade like the ones he doesn't want me to have... |
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I avoid arguments with anti gun folks, especially the ones who start their argument off with "I believe in the 2nd amendment.....but....."
I have found that avoiding these types of people helps keep my blood pressure at a normal level. |
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You need to report him to Homeland Security for trying to recruit for ISIS.
It's your duty. |
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And, probably to him/her...........
They would be comfortable if freedom of religion means ONLY ALLAH is the one true god. So, F@#* everybody else and what they think. Aloha, Mark |
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Their minds are made up. You're just wasting your breath...unless he has weak heart...then thing could get interesting. View Quote Hypothetically.... Argue with them in a public place with video surveillance. Get them to attack you physically. Get them charged with a felony, so they can never own any sort of gun. Profit. |
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Their minds are made up. You're just wasting your breath...unless he has weak heart...then thing could get interesting. View Quote This right here. I'm stubborn and have tried, tried so very hard to show them the light and how they are mistaken, no dice. Total waste of time, effort and as mentioned above, breath. Like another poster I've now decided to just avoid the argument so as to avoid slapping the shit out of one of them and then going to jail for beating on a mentally handicapped person. ETA: Please, no offense towards mentally handicapped persons. |
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& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms. I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc. View Quote The one thing to remember - it covers crew-served weapons as well, and there are plenty of examples of this at the time. Cannon could be privately held without any connection to government or organized militia - and such ownership was not questioned. Hell, there were privately-held, fully-armed warships. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque - there would have been no need for Congress to have the power to issue such letters if personal ownership of armed warships was not expected. |
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& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms. I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc. I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing." This was from a "Gun Guy" as he calls himself.... It was when I got into the purpose of the 2A was primarily to prevent a politicized army led by a politicized Government turning on its citizens that I should go join ISIS. View Quote take them to the range. otherwise I no longer engage its pretty pointless and they may learn in time. Its scary thinking like free person and realizing that all you think is wrong. |
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Liberalism is a Mental Disorder that just can't seem to be fixed.
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Did they tell you to move to Somalia before they told you to join ISIS?
The only people in ISIS that have guns are the ones that subscribe to their twisted beliefs. Everyone else gets a bullet to the back or the back of the head. |
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But when pressed on self defense rights he said he had a right to do so & carries his gun. When I tried to get to the core of what a person that comes against him or his family was threatening the "Security" of himself & that he has his choice as to what he chooses but I shouldn't have that right because I may want a FA gun, I was told I was wrong & I just want to kill people... Somehow in his mind the possession of one arm is more "Wrong" than another. Amazing... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This gun guy sounds like a major league fudd. But when pressed on self defense rights he said he had a right to do so & carries his gun. When I tried to get to the core of what a person that comes against him or his family was threatening the "Security" of himself & that he has his choice as to what he chooses but I shouldn't have that right because I may want a FA gun, I was told I was wrong & I just want to kill people... Somehow in his mind the possession of one arm is more "Wrong" than another. Amazing... Does he carry a one or two shot flintlock pistol, or perhaps a brace of them? |
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I don't talk to liberals. No seriously, I don't. Fuckem. View Quote True. Fudds can be converted though, you just need to make them want fun toys. All the fun toys are heavily restricted Need to make it personal. Remember, as a gun owner, no one is more persecuted than you by the .gov. |
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True. Fudds can be converted though, you just need to make them want fun toys. All the fun toys are heavily restricted Need to make it personal. Remember, as a gun owner, no one is more persecuted than you by the .gov. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't talk to liberals. No seriously, I don't. Fuckem. True. Fudds can be converted though, you just need to make them want fun toys. All the fun toys are heavily restricted Need to make it personal. Remember, as a gun owner, no one is more persecuted than you by the .gov. You should link up with the Drone/UAV guys |
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Lots of folks who throw the "all they had back then were muskets" argument don't understand the memo that started the little soiree in April:
Orders from General Thomas Gage
to Lieut. Colonel Smith, 10th Regiment 'Foot Boston, April 18, 1775 Lieut. Colonel Smith, 10th Regiment 'Foot, Sir, Having received intelligence, that a quantity of Ammunition, Provisions, Artillery, Tents and small Arms, have been collected at Concord, for the Avowed Purpose of raising and supporting a Rebellion against His Majesty, you will March with a Corps of Grenadiers and Light Infantry, put under your Command, with the utmost expedition and Secrecy to Concord, where you will seize and distroy all Artillery, Ammunition, Provisions, Tents, Small Arms, and all Military Stores whatever. But you will take care that the Soldiers do not plunder the Inhabitants, or hurt private property. You have a Draught of Concord, on which is marked the Houses, Barns, &c, which contain the above military Stores. You will order a Trunion to be knocked off each Gun, but if its found impracticable on any, they must be spiked, and the Carriages destroyed. The Powder and flower must be shook out of the Barrels into the River, the Tents burnt, Pork or Beef destroyed in the best way you can devise. And the Men may put Balls of lead in their pockets, throwing them by degrees into Ponds, Ditches &c., but no Quantity together, so that they may be recovered afterwards. If you meet any Brass Artillery, you will order their muzzles to be beat in so as to render them useless. You will observe by the Draught that it will be necessary to secure the two Bridges as soon as possible, you will therefore Order a party of the best Marchers, to go on with expedition for the purpose. A small party of Horseback is ordered out to stop all advice of your March getting to Concord before you, and a small number of Artillery go out in Chaises to wait for you on the road, with Sledge Hammers, Spikes, &c. You will open your business and return with the Troops, as soon as possible, with I must leave to your own Judgment and Discretion. I am, Sir, Your most obedient humble servant Thos. Gage. View Quote Source 1 Source 2 Source 3 |
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Quoted: & that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms. I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc. I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing." This was from a "Gun Guy" as he calls himself.... It was when I got into the purpose of the 2A was primarily to prevent a politicized army led by a politicized Government turning on its citizens that I should go join ISIS. View Quote |
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Group buy on a battleship? Arfcom GD Corporation buys USS New Jersey (or name your warship here) for a world tour cruise ship. I think we should go to Somalia and practice piracy suppression. View Quote Add in we get to revenge shell Mogadishu for a solid day and this is the best idea ever |
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Add in we get to revenge shell Mogadishu for a solid day and this is the best idea ever View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Group buy on a battleship? Arfcom GD Corporation buys USS New Jersey (or name your warship here) for a world tour cruise ship. I think we should go to Somalia and practice piracy suppression. Add in we get to revenge shell Mogadishu for a solid day and this is the best idea ever I'd love to rescue her from the NJ Commies, but probably a destroyer would be a bit more affordable as a starter ship. Plus there are more of those around. But I'm in to crew her. |
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Ironically these people would probably be the first ones begging for your protection if they were exposed to any real, tangible danger that required defense with modern firearms.
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