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Posted: 5/24/2015 1:04:43 PM EDT
& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms.

I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc.

I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing."

This was from a "Gun Guy" as he calls himself....

It was when I got into the purpose of the 2A was primarily to prevent a politicized army led by a politicized Government turning on its citizens that I should go join ISIS.

Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:09:28 PM EDT
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I try to stay away from those conversations so I don't slap someone.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:10:57 PM EDT
[#2]
I don't argue with stupid people.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:11:06 PM EDT
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You gain nothing by arguing with idiots.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:12:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:14:16 PM EDT
[#5]
This gun guy sounds like a major league fudd.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:19:26 PM EDT
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Their minds are made up.  You're just wasting your breath...unless he has weak heart...then thing could get interesting.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:19:37 PM EDT
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I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing."



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Yup, they can't stand being wrong, so they change how logic works to suit their needs
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:21:41 PM EDT
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But when pressed on self defense rights he said he had a right to do so & carries his gun.

When I tried to get to the core of what a person that comes against him or his family was threatening the "Security" of himself & that he has his choice as to what he chooses but I shouldn't have that right because I may want a FA gun, I was told I was wrong & I just want to kill people...

Somehow in his mind the possession of one arm is more "Wrong" than another. Amazing...
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:23:36 PM EDT
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Jesus said not to throw pearls before swine.

OP-you failed.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:24:19 PM EDT
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I don't argue with stupid people.


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You gain nothing by arguing with idiots.




I don't agree. We have made major gains because fewer and fewer people by the Antigunners arguments.

Sure some are a lost cause but winning politically happens at the margins.

I say engage the idiots with reason, it does work even if it is sometimes really frustrating.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:25:39 PM EDT
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hows that saying go? -

never wrestle with a pig,
you'll just get dirty
and the pig will enjoy it
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:28:19 PM EDT
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Group buy on a battleship?    Arfcom GD Corporation buys USS New Jersey (or name your warship here) for a world tour cruise ship.  I think we should go to Somalia and practice piracy suppression.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:28:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:35:32 PM EDT
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Then the First Amendment only applies to vocal, non-amplified speech. Not the airwaves and CERTAINLY NOT the interwebz.

Oh, and anything you can print and distribute with a manual Guttenberg press...and no fair using helpers either. The First Amendment only protects your individual opinion.

Now, about that Freedom of Religion...it only applies to...

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hows that saying go? -

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"Pearls...swine...you see where I'm going with this?"
- JC, 32 AD
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:40:58 PM EDT
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Google Ben Shapiro's interview with Piers Morgan. It was done after Sandy Hook. It will show you how to deal with that shit.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:47:11 PM EDT
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Sounds like a bitchm let him know i said so
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:56:40 PM EDT
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& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms.

I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc.

I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing."

This was from a "Gun Guy" as he calls himself....

It was when I got into the purpose of the 2A was primarily to prevent a politicized army led by a politicized Government turning on its citizens that I should go join ISIS.

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You didn't remind him that ISIS is full of anti-west socialists?
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 1:57:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2015 2:00:24 PM EDT
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Jesus was too polite. I typically say "hastily take thine stupid ass AND thine donkey away, for I bear not fools or their asses"   AMEN
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 2:01:29 PM EDT
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The divide between the various segments of this country, ethnicity, religion, political, etc., just keeps getting wider.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 2:22:15 PM EDT
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I was told a few times "Obama is the best president we've ever had..."

I couldn't keep a straight face after that...

It made me...

Link Posted: 5/24/2015 2:53:01 PM EDT
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I was told a few times "Obama is the best president we've ever had..."



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Well...Obama is the best president we've ever had........at setting a bad example.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 3:03:17 PM EDT
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It made me...


  Well...Obama is the best president we've ever had........at setting a bad example.


I didn't have the heart to tell him if I joined ISIS he would be supplying me arms through the black market arms trade like the ones he doesn't want me to have...
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 3:17:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2015 3:31:02 PM EDT
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I avoid arguments with anti gun folks, especially the ones who start their argument off with "I believe in the 2nd amendment.....but....."

I have found that avoiding these types of people helps keep my blood pressure at a normal level.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 4:38:04 PM EDT
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You need to report him to Homeland Security for trying to recruit for ISIS.
It's your duty.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 4:40:45 PM EDT
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You need to report him to Homeland Security for trying to recruit for ISIS.
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I think it's the FBI handling that right now, but I agree.
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 4:56:32 PM EDT
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And, probably to him/her...........

They would be comfortable if freedom of religion means ONLY ALLAH is the one true god.  So, F@#* everybody else and what they think.

Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 5/24/2015 6:26:34 PM EDT
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Their minds are made up.  You're just wasting your breath...unless he has weak heart...then thing could get interesting.
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Hypothetically....

Argue with them in a public place with video surveillance. Get them to attack you physically.  Get them charged with a felony, so they can never own any sort of gun.

Profit.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 6:29:05 PM EDT
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this.
rock-headed stupidity has become a rage trigger for me of late.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 6:40:03 PM EDT
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This right here. I'm stubborn and have tried, tried so very hard to show them the light and how they are mistaken, no dice. Total waste of time, effort and as mentioned above, breath. Like another poster I've now decided to just avoid the argument so as to avoid slapping the shit out of one of them and then going to jail for beating on a mentally handicapped person.

ETA: Please, no offense towards mentally handicapped persons.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 6:50:35 PM EDT
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& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms.

I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc.
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The one thing to remember - it covers crew-served weapons as well, and there are plenty of examples of this at the time. Cannon could be privately held without any connection to government or organized militia - and such ownership was not questioned.

Hell, there were privately-held, fully-armed warships. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque - there would have been no need for Congress to have the power to issue such letters if personal ownership of armed warships was not expected.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 6:57:08 PM EDT
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TV and radio aren't the press, so.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 7:01:37 PM EDT
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I don't talk to liberals.

No seriously, I don't.

Fuckem.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 7:02:59 PM EDT
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So, are you going to join ISIS?
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 7:40:54 PM EDT
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& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms.

I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc.

I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing."

This was from a "Gun Guy" as he calls himself....

It was when I got into the purpose of the 2A was primarily to prevent a politicized army led by a politicized Government turning on its citizens that I should go join ISIS.

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take them to the range.

otherwise I no longer engage its pretty pointless and they may learn in time. Its scary thinking like free person and realizing that all you think is wrong.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 7:42:33 PM EDT
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Liberalism is a Mental Disorder that just can't seem to be fixed.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 7:45:50 PM EDT
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Did they tell you to move to Somalia before they told you to join ISIS?


The only people in ISIS that have guns are the ones that subscribe to their twisted beliefs. Everyone else gets a bullet to the back or the back of the head.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 7:58:25 PM EDT
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But when pressed on self defense rights he said he had a right to do so & carries his gun.

When I tried to get to the core of what a person that comes against him or his family was threatening the "Security" of himself & that he has his choice as to what he chooses but I shouldn't have that right because I may want a FA gun, I was told I was wrong & I just want to kill people...

Somehow in his mind the possession of one arm is more "Wrong" than another. Amazing...
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This gun guy sounds like a major league fudd.


But when pressed on self defense rights he said he had a right to do so & carries his gun.

When I tried to get to the core of what a person that comes against him or his family was threatening the "Security" of himself & that he has his choice as to what he chooses but I shouldn't have that right because I may want a FA gun, I was told I was wrong & I just want to kill people...

Somehow in his mind the possession of one arm is more "Wrong" than another. Amazing...

Does he carry a one or two shot flintlock pistol, or perhaps a brace of them?
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 8:02:08 PM EDT
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I don't talk to liberals.

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Fuckem.
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True.

Fudds can be converted though, you just need to make them want fun toys. All the fun toys are heavily restricted

Need to make it personal.

Remember, as a gun owner, no one is more persecuted than you by the .gov.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 8:07:07 PM EDT
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True.

Fudds can be converted though, you just need to make them want fun toys. All the fun toys are heavily restricted

Need to make it personal.

Remember, as a gun owner, no one is more persecuted than you by the .gov.
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I don't talk to liberals.

No seriously, I don't.

Fuckem.


True.

Fudds can be converted though, you just need to make them want fun toys. All the fun toys are heavily restricted

Need to make it personal.

Remember, as a gun owner, no one is more persecuted than you by the .gov.



You should link up with the Drone/UAV guys
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 8:12:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/25/2015 8:15:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/25/2015 8:32:55 PM EDT
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& that M16 machine guns were absolutely covered as bearable arms.



I was thrown all the Lib arguments: Only single shot muskets are protected, Founding Fathers were idiots, people should have nukes then, etc.



I especially have fun with the "Machine guns weren't around then so they can't be protected under the 2A. When I brought up computers & the 4A I got "That's just stupid, they aren't the same thing."



This was from a "Gun Guy" as he calls himself....



It was when I got into the purpose of the 2A was primarily to prevent a politicized army led by a politicized Government turning on its citizens that I should go join ISIS.



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sounds like someone was begging for a throat punch



 
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 8:42:06 PM EDT
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Add in we get to revenge shell Mogadishu for a solid day and this is the best idea ever
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 11:30:19 PM EDT
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Add in we get to revenge shell Mogadishu for a solid day and this is the best idea ever
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Group buy on a battleship?    Arfcom GD Corporation buys USS New Jersey (or name your warship here) for a world tour cruise ship.  I think we should go to Somalia and practice piracy suppression.

Add in we get to revenge shell Mogadishu for a solid day and this is the best idea ever


I'd love to rescue her from the NJ Commies, but probably a destroyer would be a bit more affordable as a starter ship. Plus there are more of those around.

But I'm in to crew her.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 11:37:48 PM EDT
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Ironically these people would probably be the first ones begging for your protection if they were exposed to any real, tangible danger that required defense with modern firearms.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 11:41:20 PM EDT
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Maybe he just meant you would be a great ally for Archer.
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