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There are a lot of people doing tight (photorealistic) pencil drawings. A lot. But that doesn't mean that your girlfriend can't make a go of it. I wouldn't ever discourage her from trying. However I'd also advise her to keep her mind open to other ways of monetizing her talent. YouTube isn't the only way to do it. She should always be educating herself, improving her skills, and seeing where it leads her. View Quote I think Renata nailed it here. I don't know why she shouldn't give it a go, she's got skills. My thing about photorealistic art is, it's challenging, and cool to see done, but in the end, it's just a copy of a photo. I have students show me videos of that stuff alot, so there definitely is a market. I'm just not a huge fan of it. That said, I enjoy the hell out of attempting it, and I suck compared to your girlfriend. What I ask my students to do is create something that is an original composition and not just a copy of a photo or another painting. I think in the end it's much more interesting to look at and appreciate. Good luck to her. Fantastic talent there. |
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I think Renata nailed it here. I don't know why she shouldn't give it a go, she's got skills. My thing about photorealistic art is, it's challenging, and cool to see done, but in the end, it's just a copy of a photo. I have students show me videos of that stuff alot, so there definitely is a market. I'm just not a huge fan of it. That said, I enjoy the hell out of attempting it, and I suck compared to your girlfriend. What I ask my students to do is create something that is an original composition and not just a copy of a photo or another painting. I think in the end it's much more interesting to look at and appreciate. Good luck to her. Fantastic talent there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are a lot of people doing tight (photorealistic) pencil drawings. A lot. But that doesn't mean that your girlfriend can't make a go of it. I wouldn't ever discourage her from trying. However I'd also advise her to keep her mind open to other ways of monetizing her talent. YouTube isn't the only way to do it. She should always be educating herself, improving her skills, and seeing where it leads her. I think Renata nailed it here. I don't know why she shouldn't give it a go, she's got skills. My thing about photorealistic art is, it's challenging, and cool to see done, but in the end, it's just a copy of a photo. I have students show me videos of that stuff alot, so there definitely is a market. I'm just not a huge fan of it. That said, I enjoy the hell out of attempting it, and I suck compared to your girlfriend. What I ask my students to do is create something that is an original composition and not just a copy of a photo or another painting. I think in the end it's much more interesting to look at and appreciate. Good luck to her. Fantastic talent there. She says thank you for the comment and she appreciates it. |
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I think Renata nailed it here. I don't know why she shouldn't give it a go, she's got skills. My thing about photorealistic art is, it's challenging, and cool to see done, but in the end, it's just a copy of a photo. I have students show me videos of that stuff alot, so there definitely is a market. I'm just not a huge fan of it. That said, I enjoy the hell out of attempting it, and I suck compared to your girlfriend. What I ask my students to do is create something that is an original composition and not just a copy of a photo or another painting. I think in the end it's much more interesting to look at and appreciate. Good luck to her. Fantastic talent there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are a lot of people doing tight (photorealistic) pencil drawings. A lot. But that doesn't mean that your girlfriend can't make a go of it. I wouldn't ever discourage her from trying. However I'd also advise her to keep her mind open to other ways of monetizing her talent. YouTube isn't the only way to do it. She should always be educating herself, improving her skills, and seeing where it leads her. I think Renata nailed it here. I don't know why she shouldn't give it a go, she's got skills. My thing about photorealistic art is, it's challenging, and cool to see done, but in the end, it's just a copy of a photo. I have students show me videos of that stuff alot, so there definitely is a market. I'm just not a huge fan of it. That said, I enjoy the hell out of attempting it, and I suck compared to your girlfriend. What I ask my students to do is create something that is an original composition and not just a copy of a photo or another painting. I think in the end it's much more interesting to look at and appreciate. Good luck to her. Fantastic talent there. I'm going to agree with everything here. (thumbs up icon) I'll also add that drawing accurately (getting the shapes and proportions correct) is sometimes under-emphasized and misunderstood. A sharper eye will see the difference between "sorta okay" and "good." Your girlfriend, having just started this, is showing impressive potential in drawing. But she should always be working to improve her skills. (I'll assume that you both agree this is a given.) A couple of other observations that may or may not apply to your gf's situation. A lot of folks who focus on primarily photorealistic B&W (pencil, charcoal) will be eventually asked if they work in color. I see some artists who never do. I'm not sure why, but I'll guess that in part because it's a big leap and not as easy as it looks. I suspect that some of them get defensive about not doing color. Some people take to it easier than other people. But regardless, it takes more than just mere "talent" to get colors as good as this guy or this guy. (Some people can't see what the big deal is with these artists' use of color, and all I can say is, you don't roll out of bed and paint like that. ) Sorry, that became a TL;DR. To summarize, getting good at color isn't usually only a matter of "talent," it takes study too. Your gf may consider strengthening her color work as soon as possible, realizing that there are levels to it and that it's always something she'll be seeking to improve. (Which is not to say that she'll find it scary or hard, but one is never really "finished" with improving themselves with any discipline, am I right? ) |
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I'm going to agree with everything here. (thumbs up icon) I'll also add that drawing accurately (getting the shapes and proportions correct) is sometimes under-emphasized and misunderstood. A sharper eye will see the difference between "sorta okay" and "good." Your girlfriend, having just started this, is showing impressive potential in drawing. But she should always be working to improve her skills. (I'll assume that you both agree this is a given.) A couple of other observations that may or may not apply to your gf's situation. A lot of folks who focus on primarily photorealistic B&W (pencil, charcoal) will be eventually asked if they work in color. I see some artists who never do. I'm not sure why, but I'll guess that in part because it's a big leap and not as easy as it looks. I suspect that some of them get defensive about not doing color. Some people take to it easier than other people. But regardless, it takes more than just mere "talent" to get colors as good as this guy or this guy. (Some people can't see what the big deal is with these artists' use of color, and all I can say is, you don't roll out of bed and paint like that. ) Sorry, that became a TL;DR. To summarize, getting good at color isn't usually only a matter of "talent," it takes study too. Your gf should probably consider strengthening her color work as soon as possible, realizing that there are levels to it and that it's always something she'll be seeking to improve. (Which is not to say that she'll find it scary or hard, but one is never really "finished" with improving themselves with any discipline, am I right? ) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are a lot of people doing tight (photorealistic) pencil drawings. A lot. But that doesn't mean that your girlfriend can't make a go of it. I wouldn't ever discourage her from trying. However I'd also advise her to keep her mind open to other ways of monetizing her talent. YouTube isn't the only way to do it. She should always be educating herself, improving her skills, and seeing where it leads her. I think Renata nailed it here. I don't know why she shouldn't give it a go, she's got skills. My thing about photorealistic art is, it's challenging, and cool to see done, but in the end, it's just a copy of a photo. I have students show me videos of that stuff alot, so there definitely is a market. I'm just not a huge fan of it. That said, I enjoy the hell out of attempting it, and I suck compared to your girlfriend. What I ask my students to do is create something that is an original composition and not just a copy of a photo or another painting. I think in the end it's much more interesting to look at and appreciate. Good luck to her. Fantastic talent there. I'm going to agree with everything here. (thumbs up icon) I'll also add that drawing accurately (getting the shapes and proportions correct) is sometimes under-emphasized and misunderstood. A sharper eye will see the difference between "sorta okay" and "good." Your girlfriend, having just started this, is showing impressive potential in drawing. But she should always be working to improve her skills. (I'll assume that you both agree this is a given.) A couple of other observations that may or may not apply to your gf's situation. A lot of folks who focus on primarily photorealistic B&W (pencil, charcoal) will be eventually asked if they work in color. I see some artists who never do. I'm not sure why, but I'll guess that in part because it's a big leap and not as easy as it looks. I suspect that some of them get defensive about not doing color. Some people take to it easier than other people. But regardless, it takes more than just mere "talent" to get colors as good as this guy or this guy. (Some people can't see what the big deal is with these artists' use of color, and all I can say is, you don't roll out of bed and paint like that. ) Sorry, that became a TL;DR. To summarize, getting good at color isn't usually only a matter of "talent," it takes study too. Your gf should probably consider strengthening her color work as soon as possible, realizing that there are levels to it and that it's always something she'll be seeking to improve. (Which is not to say that she'll find it scary or hard, but one is never really "finished" with improving themselves with any discipline, am I right? ) She paints, draws, sketches, and does CAD work as well. This is just a new interest for her. |
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do it, start it up, get some of the art spread around on tumblr and imgur, reddit, deviantart etc, mention the youtube chan out there, good way to pick up subscribers by spreading some of the art and vids around in other places where it can be seen.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/drawings/image-09b222b8f27e8b8556d7cf928076cb18a40aae344a9d2e27a3fdb5810d7baea8-V_zpsna1q2yqy.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/drawings/image-086eacdf16c41702b9bfc3f097bb78d3c8c2fcb7880c0936a51d9567e26b98ff-V_zps5qhvddvt.jpg View Quote Is that two perspectives of the drawing, or is one the original photo and the other the drawing? WOW, she's awesome. There's several channels already that show speed drawings of photo-realistic images. If she could somehow do a "Bob Ross" style drawing class, I think that would be a hit. Sort of a walk through, stating what paper and media she's using, then why she picks which color or hardness of charcoal, with the in-between parts sped up. If she's doing an effect motion with her media, slow it back down and have her explain why she's doing it. I'll repeat - Audio is very important, both men and women will watch an art show more with a clear, easy to hear narrator with constant volume compared to one with silence or stock music in the background. Just make sure it is volume normalized with just a touch of compression so there aren't quiet parts with car-dealer-commercial loud parts intermixed. Also zero background noise, except the sound of pencil on paper. |
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Is that two perspectives of the drawing, or is one the original photo and the other the drawing? WOW, she's awesome. There's several channels already that show speed drawings of photo-realistic images. If she could somehow do a "Bob Ross" style drawing class, I think that would be a hit. Sort of a walk through, stating what paper and media she's using, then why she picks which color or hardness of charcoal, with the in-between parts sped up. If she's doing an effect motion with her media, slow it back down and have her explain why she's doing it. I'll repeat - Audio is very important, both men and women will watch an art show more with a clear, easy to hear narrator with constant volume compared to one with silence or stock music in the background. Just make sure it is volume normalized with just a touch of compression so there aren't quiet parts with car-dealer-commercial loud parts intermixed. Also zero background noise, except the sound of pencil on paper. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/drawings/image-09b222b8f27e8b8556d7cf928076cb18a40aae344a9d2e27a3fdb5810d7baea8-V_zpsna1q2yqy.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/drawings/image-086eacdf16c41702b9bfc3f097bb78d3c8c2fcb7880c0936a51d9567e26b98ff-V_zps5qhvddvt.jpg Is that two perspectives of the drawing, or is one the original photo and the other the drawing? WOW, she's awesome. There's several channels already that show speed drawings of photo-realistic images. If she could somehow do a "Bob Ross" style drawing class, I think that would be a hit. Sort of a walk through, stating what paper and media she's using, then why she picks which color or hardness of charcoal, with the in-between parts sped up. If she's doing an effect motion with her media, slow it back down and have her explain why she's doing it. I'll repeat - Audio is very important, both men and women will watch an art show more with a clear, easy to hear narrator with constant volume compared to one with silence or stock music in the background. Just make sure it is volume normalized with just a touch of compression so there aren't quiet parts with car-dealer-commercial loud parts intermixed. Also zero background noise, except the sound of pencil on paper. These are both pictures of the drawing. |
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Can you put that drawing next to the photo she worked form? That's some amazing work!
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At first I was like "ehh". Now after seeing what she is capable of I say she definitely should! That's no average art class talent. That's already looking amazing!
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She asked me to say thank you for all the comments, positive and not so positive.
Her next art project will either be some form of painting, or another one of these realistic type drawings. Any input on what she should do? ARFCOM decides! |
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Dayum, skills. She has them. Even unfinished it looks great.
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That owl drawing is pretty awesome. Clearly she has a talent she can exploit. If youtube is the way to do that, I have no idea.
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Honestly couldn't tell you. Is she going to teach people how to draw? I don't know if that's something someone would watch on you tube.
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Not bad but has a very long way to go for photo realism.
If it's something she is interested in truly pursuing she needs to really dedicate to technique and details. Not an easy task at all. Getting on Concept.org and setting up a 'sketchbook' and seeking critiques would be very helpful. Real critiques can seem kind of harsh but it's the only way to learn. |
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Not bad but has a very long way to go for photo realism. If it's something she is interested in truly pursuing she needs to really dedicate to technique and details. Not an easy task at all. Getting on Concept.org and setting up a 'sketchbook' and seeking critiques would be very helpful. Real critiques can seem kind of harsh but it's the only way to learn. View Quote That's why she's doing this. She's trying to build up the skill to photo realistic. I call it a damn fine first attempt though. |
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Not bad but has a very long way to go for photo realism. If it's something she is interested in truly pursuing she needs to really dedicate to technique and details. Not an easy task at all. Getting on Concept.org and setting up a 'sketchbook' and seeking critiques would be very helpful. Real critiques can seem kind of harsh but it's the only way to learn. View Quote She's good and has a lot of potential. I wouldn't for the world discourage her in any way. I think the CA people are very encouraging and kind, but they don't sugarcoat and if they think you need to study this or buy that book, they'll suggest it, in a very kind, encouraging way. It's assumed that if you start a sketchbook there, you understand and accept this. (It's not just for people interested in Concept art. The Sketchbook area is for anyone interested in drawing and painting realistically. ) CA sketchbooks. |
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That's why she's doing this. She's trying to build up the skill to photo realistic. I call it a damn fine first attempt though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not bad but has a very long way to go for photo realism. If it's something she is interested in truly pursuing she needs to really dedicate to technique and details. Not an easy task at all. Getting on Concept.org and setting up a 'sketchbook' and seeking critiques would be very helpful. Real critiques can seem kind of harsh but it's the only way to learn. That's why she's doing this. She's trying to build up the skill to photo realistic. I call it a damn fine first attempt though. No it's great for a first attempt (but it's still novice). AR15 isn't really the right place. Their are some very experience artist here. I dabble a bit myself. devaintArt and ConceptArt are better places, myartcorner is another newer one. She has a talent but only years of work will produce what's she's after Personally I think a youtube channel is premature. Not saying any of this to be an ass, only honest as someone that's spent some time with a pencil. |
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No it's great for a first attempt (but it's still novice). AR15 isn't really the right place. Their are some very experience artist here. I dabble a bit myself. devaintArt and ConceptArt are better places, myartcorner is another newer one. She has a talent but only years of work will produce what's she's after Personally I think a youtube channel is premature. Not saying any of this to be an ass, only honest as someone that's spent some time with a pencil. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not bad but has a very long way to go for photo realism. If it's something she is interested in truly pursuing she needs to really dedicate to technique and details. Not an easy task at all. Getting on Concept.org and setting up a 'sketchbook' and seeking critiques would be very helpful. Real critiques can seem kind of harsh but it's the only way to learn. That's why she's doing this. She's trying to build up the skill to photo realistic. I call it a damn fine first attempt though. No it's great for a first attempt (but it's still novice). AR15 isn't really the right place. Their are some very experience artist here. I dabble a bit myself. devaintArt and ConceptArt are better places, myartcorner is another newer one. She has a talent but only years of work will produce what's she's after Personally I think a youtube channel is premature. Not saying any of this to be an ass, only honest as someone that's spent some time with a pencil. I'm sharing it here because this is where I hang out. She's gearing up to do another drawing now. Not sure what it will be yet. |
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I'll through in my .02 cents..... My 3 shelties. <a href="http://s171.photobucket.com/user/dmsmith12345/media/image_zps4do2ft71.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/dmsmith12345/image_zps4do2ft71.jpg</a> Or Casey <a href="http://s171.photobucket.com/user/dmsmith12345/media/DSC00238.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/dmsmith12345/DSC00238.jpg</a> She should see the owl thread over in the pet forum. Good work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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She asked me to say thank you for all the comments, positive and not so positive. Her next art project will either be some form of painting, or another one of these realistic type drawings. Any input on what she should do? ARFCOM decides! I'll through in my .02 cents..... My 3 shelties. <a href="http://s171.photobucket.com/user/dmsmith12345/media/image_zps4do2ft71.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/dmsmith12345/image_zps4do2ft71.jpg</a> Or Casey <a href="http://s171.photobucket.com/user/dmsmith12345/media/DSC00238.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/dmsmith12345/DSC00238.jpg</a> She should see the owl thread over in the pet forum. Good work. She isn't opposed to drawing your dogs for you, but she would need far better pictures than these. See what you can come up with, and if it's not her next drawing, I'll at least see that it's on her list |
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She isn't opposed to drawing your dogs for you, but she would need far better pictures than these. See what you can come up with, and if it's not her next drawing, I'll at least see that it's on her list View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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She asked me to say thank you for all the comments, positive and not so positive. Her next art project will either be some form of painting, or another one of these realistic type drawings. Any input on what she should do? ARFCOM decides! I'll through in my .02 cents..... My 3 shelties. <a href="http://s171.photobucket.com/user/dmsmith12345/media/image_zps4do2ft71.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/dmsmith12345/image_zps4do2ft71.jpg</a> Or Casey <a href="http://s171.photobucket.com/user/dmsmith12345/media/DSC00238.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/dmsmith12345/DSC00238.jpg</a> She should see the owl thread over in the pet forum. Good work. She isn't opposed to drawing your dogs for you, but she would need far better pictures than these. See what you can come up with, and if it's not her next drawing, I'll at least see that it's on her list Sorry, I'm not a photographer..... it just isn't meant to be. |
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Looks pretty awesome. The only thing that would make it "pop" more is a "Jelly Pen" (a fine tipped white gel pen that works over charcoal or colored pencil) for pulling out some strong highlights in the eyes and along the beak, like in the photo.
After that, going for more realistic would involve going into more detail, drawing each bit of the tiny feathers, and a wider dynamic range, from pure black to pure white (brighter than most paper bright white). The way it goes, I'd pay for that drawing if it were framed, not sure how much, but it's good enough to hang on a wall, IMO. --ETA: For next project, maybe an old sweep hand/wind up style stopwatch laying on a white piece of paper. The kind of stopwatch used for the intro of "60 Minutes", but from a 45° oblique angle. I have one sitting here, which makes it easy for me to visualize what I'm thinking of. But my idea is just any static item image. Everyday things that look interesting on their own. No still-life, animals, or plants or food. The water glass drawing is an excellent example of an every day item. |
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Why not. If she loves drawing and making videos she should. Good luck op.
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Looks pretty awesome. The only thing that would make it "pop" more is a "Jelly Pen" (a fine tipped white gel pen that works over charcoal or colored pencil) for pulling out some strong highlights in the eyes and along the beak, like in the photo. After that, going for more realistic would involve going into more detail, drawing each bit of the tiny feathers, and a wider dynamic range, from pure black to pure white (brighter than most paper bright white). The way it goes, I'd pay for that drawing if it were framed, not sure how much, but it's good enough to hang on a wall, IMO. --ETA: For next project, maybe an old sweep hand/wind up style stopwatch laying on a white piece of paper. The kind of stopwatch used for the intro of "60 Minutes", but from a 45° oblique angle. I have one sitting here, which makes it easy for me to visualize what I'm thinking of. But my idea is just any static item image. Everyday things that look interesting on their own. No still-life, animals, or plants or food. The water glass drawing is an excellent example of an every day item. View Quote I don't know jack about art, art prices, selling art, or anything aside from looking at it. You say it's good enough to buy/sell/etc What's somethin like that usually go for? |
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Looks pretty awesome. The only thing that would make it "pop" more is a "Jelly Pen" (a fine tipped white gel pen that works over charcoal or colored pencil) for pulling out some strong highlights in the eyes and along the beak, like in the photo. After that, going for more realistic would involve going into more detail, drawing each bit of the tiny feathers, and a wider dynamic range, from pure black to pure white (brighter than most paper bright white). The way it goes, I'd pay for that drawing if it were framed, not sure how much, but it's good enough to hang on a wall, IMO. --ETA: For next project, maybe an old sweep hand/wind up style stopwatch laying on a white piece of paper. The kind of stopwatch used for the intro of "60 Minutes", but from a 45° oblique angle. I have one sitting here, which makes it easy for me to visualize what I'm thinking of. But my idea is just any static item image. Everyday things that look interesting on their own. No still-life, animals, or plants or food. The water glass drawing is an excellent example of an every day item. I don't know jack about art, art prices, selling art, or anything aside from looking at it. You say it's good enough to buy/sell/etc What's somethin like that usually go for? Usually around $25-$50 from what I've seen at local craft shows, depending on size, most of that is cost of frame though. The term "Starving Artist" is common for a reason. A lot of the decent works that are sold are just somebody wanting something other than a print somebody else may have hanging in a room. Once somebody is known for making excellent work, they can command much higher prices. They aren't looking for art that other people oooh and aaah over, but they don't want something boring that other people have also, in the case of prints. This one at Deviant Art is $50 for a print, and not somebody terribly famous. That's a common place for people to sell their work, though there are many others as well. |
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She should do a close up of an eye.
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She should do a close up of an eye. Does she have Instagram? There are some great accounts I could recommend to her. She does not currently have an instagram account. I will recommend that she get one. It's a wonderful community, especially the artist circles. |
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