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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:09:18 PM EDT
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You don't need more than 7 rounds, or 10 rounds. Video of a home invasion here in Atlanta shows exactly why I want more than 10 rounds or an AR15.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJC_PFYhbIThis is why we reinforce doors. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:11:05 PM EDT
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Looks like one of the guys was leaking. Check out the bottom of the stairs near the end, looks like a few drops of blood.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:12:26 PM EDT
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Can you just imagine the liberal rage if a guy dropped 6 intruders in his own home? would be a great day 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:13:42 PM EDT
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But shotgun is the best HD gun!!!  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They would learn what the term fatal funnel meant. AR would be nice but a Benelli or even a Mossberg would not be useless there But shotgun is the best HD gun!!! I wouldn't feel out gunned with either 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:13:56 PM EDT
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Don't know about CA but in most places you'd get a no bill. See one intruder with a gun, no time to inspect to see if the others aren't armed. I would be afraid for my life and the lives of my loved ones. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In reference to the video above, would there be any legal repercussions to spraying bullets into a group of intruders coming through your door even though someone of them are not armed? In a situation like that it would be hard to shoot just the guys with guns or to even tell if they all had them. Also, fuck magazine capacity limits. Don't know about CA but in most places you'd get a no bill. See one intruder with a gun, no time to inspect to see if the others aren't armed. I would be afraid for my life and the lives of my loved ones. ANYONE in my house , breaking in in the middle of the night, who can reasonably assume someone is home, is meeting someone important. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:17:12 PM EDT
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This is what he needed!!
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:17:37 PM EDT
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After that many kicks, you would have 10 mags, a rifle and a pissed off homeowner pointing directly down the stairs. First kick attempt was at 430. Final kick in was at 5. I wonder how many kick attempts it took? |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:19:29 PM EDT
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They would learn what the term fatal funnel meant. AR would be nice but a Benelli or even a Mossberg would not be useless there But shotgun is the best HD gun!!! I wouldn't feel out gunned with either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZbA1JkSWEAR pattern semi auto shotgun>some pump action with 5+1 round capacity. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:20:21 PM EDT
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Here's another
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:23:15 PM EDT
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First kick attempt was at 430. Final kick in was at 5. I wonder how many kick attempts it took? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After that many kicks, you would have 10 mags, a rifle and a pissed off homeowner pointing directly down the stairs. First kick attempt was at 430. Final kick in was at 5. I wonder how many kick attempts it took? Didn't even notice that. Think they were kicking for a half hour or decided to grab a bite to eat first? |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:28:39 PM EDT
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Well, that first, ineffective kick, which took them a while of milling around before they tried again, would give me just oodles of time to get rifle and armor ready. Door comes open from the third kick and that many guys come through a constricted space? Well, I do love a parade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See now, that's why I keep my home defense claymores wired to the door and window frames like the Punisher
But seriously, that'd be one doozy of a situation to deal with. At 3 am I'd be thinking, "one or two," not "a frickin squad-level assault." Check the time stamps....damn near 9 minutes from first kick to "good breach". You'd practically have time to roll a few rounds from scratch with that kind of time. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:30:28 PM EDT
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Didn't even notice that. Think they were kicking for a half hour or decided to grab a bite to eat first? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After that many kicks, you would have 10 mags, a rifle and a pissed off homeowner pointing directly down the stairs. First kick attempt was at 430. Final kick in was at 5. I wonder how many kick attempts it took? Didn't even notice that. Think they were kicking for a half hour or decided to grab a bite to eat first? No idea, but my local cops would have been there by then. If kicking the whole time, there were some weak MFers in that group.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:31:30 PM EDT
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Check the time stamps....damn near 9 minutes from first kick to "good breach". You'd practically have time to roll a few rounds from scratch with that kind of time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See now, that's why I keep my home defense claymores wired to the door and window frames like the Punisher
But seriously, that'd be one doozy of a situation to deal with. At 3 am I'd be thinking, "one or two," not "a frickin squad-level assault." Check the time stamps....damn near 9 minutes from first kick to "good breach". You'd practically have time to roll a few rounds from scratch with that kind of time. Look again. 
Try 39 mins. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:32:05 PM EDT
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They would learn what the term fatal funnel meant. AR would be nice but a Benelli or even a Mossberg would not be useless there But shotgun is the best HD gun!!! I wouldn't feel out gunned with either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZbA1JkSWEHoly shit those are some big donkey-dick mags... |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:40:59 PM EDT
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You don't need more than 7 rounds, or 10 rounds. Video of a home invasion here in Atlanta shows exactly why I want more than 10 rounds or an AR15. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJC_PFYhbI2 ARs, a shotgun, and 2 pistols close by right now. I'm getting both, and then some.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:42:21 PM EDT
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Look again.
Try 39 mins.
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See now, that's why I keep my home defense claymores wired to the door and window frames like the Punisher
But seriously, that'd be one doozy of a situation to deal with. At 3 am I'd be thinking, "one or two," not "a frickin squad-level assault." Check the time stamps....damn near 9 minutes from first kick to "good breach". You'd practically have time to roll a few rounds from scratch with that kind of time. Look again.
Try 39 mins.
I stand corrected. Then that is really retarded. With cell phones being so prolific, and so many people using them as their alarm clocks, and you're still fuckin' around on the dudes porch 40 minutes later? At the bare minimum, dude's called the cops, and worst case, he's got both arms full of bad juju. Fuck, 40 minutes is enough time to build a 200 round belt for an LMG by hand. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:47:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:50:50 PM EDT
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In reference to the video above, would there be any legal repercussions to spraying bullets into a group of intruders coming through your door even though someone of them are not armed? In a situation like that it would be hard to shoot just the guys with guns or to even tell if they all had them. Also, fuck magazine capacity limits. In free states B&E by itself gives free reign to deadly force. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:55:51 PM EDT
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they wouldn't like the welcome at my place
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:59:48 PM EDT
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Can you just imagine the liberal rage if a guy dropped 6 intruders in his own home? Especially with an evil black rifle. .. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:00:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:02:09 PM EDT
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Well fuck. I think I'm going to have to build an pdw sbr now.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:03:40 PM EDT
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Ahhh yes, a large and unwieldy shotgun would work great indoors, and the incredible rate of fire from a pump action would allow for fire supremacy when you sent all 5-7 rounds downrange in 15 seconds, luckily you wouldn't need to worry about having extra shells near your nightstand and throwing them in your pockets of the pants you wore to sleep for a super-duper slow reload because everyone knows a single slug would have just pierced through all 7 bad guys stacked up in that fatal funnel! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They all ran away, I bet you wouldn't have had time to shoot more than one or two anyway. Shotgun would've worked fine, especially when they bunched up on the stairs. Ahhh yes, a large and unwieldy shotgun would work great indoors, and the incredible rate of fire from a pump action would allow for fire supremacy when you sent all 5-7 rounds downrange in 15 seconds, luckily you wouldn't need to worry about having extra shells near your nightstand and throwing them in your pockets of the pants you wore to sleep for a super-duper slow reload because everyone knows a single slug would have just pierced through all 7 bad guys stacked up in that fatal funnel! It's never taken me 15 seconds to empty 9 rounds out of my 590. I doubt I'd need to either, criminals aren't going to engage in a lengthy shootout. Getting hit means leaving DNA at the scene, getting caught at the hospital, or even getting dead. If you do happen to get attacked by some heavy hit squad out of movie willing to level the house to get you I doubt your choice of weapon will matter. ETA: Honestly if those clowns unloaded their handguns in your direction it probably wouldn't make a difference what you were using either. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:09:19 PM EDT
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Holy shit those are some big donkey-dick mags... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They would learn what the term fatal funnel meant. AR would be nice but a Benelli or even a Mossberg would not be useless there But shotgun is the best HD gun!!! I wouldn't feel out gunned with either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZbA1JkSWEHoly shit those are some big donkey-dick mags... Maybe but they WIN matches, I had the 2nd fastest time on that stage beat only by my son, running the same setup. 3rd in the match, son got first 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:14:52 PM EDT
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Maybe but they WIN matches, I had the 2nd fastest time on that stage beat only by my son, running the same setup. 3rd in the match, son got first
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+1 AR would be nice but a Benelli or even a Mossberg would not be useless there But shotgun is the best HD gun!!! I wouldn't feel out gunned with either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZbA1JkSWEHoly shit those are some big donkey-dick mags... Maybe but they WIN matches, I had the 2nd fastest time on that stage beat only by my son, running the same setup. 3rd in the match, son got first
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:20:36 PM EDT
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MKA 1919 12 ga shotgun
Pretty much the same ergos as an AR, except for the bolt handle, parts do not interchange though. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:21:56 PM EDT
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MKA 1919 12 ga shotgun Pretty much the same ergos as an AR, except for the bolt handle, parts do not interchange though. Pics?
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:26:53 PM EDT
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lol.
Form 1 a M203 and get HE rounds. Noobs 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:35:51 PM EDT
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No one needs more than 5 bullets Unless you're shooting them with .380
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:36:55 PM EDT
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I would not be worried with 8 rounds of buckshot in my 12ga. I'm sure that with them all standing in the same place....you could do plenty of damage in a short about of time.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:37:03 PM EDT
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No one needs more than 5 bullets Unless you're shooting them with .380 PSIFTW
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:37:20 PM EDT
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That is three miles from my house... So.... ...Do you use a shotgun? Well my G19 that I have out seems inadequate now. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:37:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They all ran away, I bet you wouldn't have had time to shoot more than one or two anyway. Shotgun would've worked fine, especially when they bunched up on the stairs. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:40:17 PM EDT
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In other words you don't need an AR or a shotgun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the story? Background? "The Atlanta Police Department says that the incident happened May 11th. Detectives say the six masked men kicked in the door and rushed in with guns drawn. Police say the men exited the home after hearing yelling from the homeowner." In other words you don't need an AR or a shotgun. I'm buying an assault megaphone...!!!
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:40:40 PM EDT
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Surprisingly CA is a castle doctrine state. I think the 80 year old guy who shot the pregnant bitch in the back as she ran away from his house after her and her sperm donor beat the crap out of him to break into his safe got off scott free from last year. The extenuating circumstance being it wasn't the first time they broke in and that they beat the shit out of him. in a situation like that where its cut and dry clear id imagine you would be a okay, and even if they charge you high hurtles for them to get a conviction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In reference to the video above, would there be any legal repercussions to spraying bullets into a group of intruders coming through your door even though someone of them are not armed? In a situation like that it would be hard to shoot just the guys with guns or to even tell if they all had them. Also, fuck magazine capacity limits. Don't know about CA but in most places you'd get a no bill. See one intruder with a gun, no time to inspect to see if the others aren't armed. I would be afraid for my life and the lives of my loved ones. Surprisingly CA is a castle doctrine state. I think the 80 year old guy who shot the pregnant bitch in the back as she ran away from his house after her and her sperm donor beat the crap out of him to break into his safe got off scott free from last year. The extenuating circumstance being it wasn't the first time they broke in and that they beat the shit out of him. in a situation like that where its cut and dry clear id imagine you would be a okay, and even if they charge you high hurtles for them to get a conviction. I remember that case and thinking "Oh boy that old timer is screwed." Thanks for squaring me away on that. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:46:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol. Form 1 a M203 and get HE rounds. Noobs |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 8:58:19 PM EDT
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My shotgun reload
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Posted: 5/22/2015 9:01:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Forcible entry into an occupied house? They could be carrying harmonicas instead of guns it'd be legal to light all of them up here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In reference to the video above, would there be any legal repercussions to spraying bullets into a group of intruders coming through your door even though someone of them are not armed? In a situation like that it would be hard to shoot just the guys with guns or to even tell if they all had them. Also, fuck magazine capacity limits. Forcible entry into an occupied house? They could be carrying harmonicas instead of guns it'd be legal to light all of them up here. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 9:03:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's the second screen door reference in this thread... What am I not getting? |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 9:03:08 PM EDT
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MKA 1919 12 ga shotgun Pretty much the same ergos as an AR, except for the bolt handle, parts do not interchange though. Pics? Here's one in Burnt Bronze 
Zombie Green 
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Matching AR / MKA 
Oddly enough I don't have a pic of all Black - too common I guess. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 9:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Legal =/= Obama's kids Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In reference to the video above, would there be any legal repercussions to spraying bullets into a group of intruders coming through your door even though someone of them are not armed? In a situation like that it would be hard to shoot just the guys with guns or to even tell if they all had them. Also, fuck magazine capacity limits. Forcible entry into an occupied house? They could be carrying harmonicas instead of guns it'd be legal to light all of them up here. Since 98% of the county I live is white the odds are heavily against anyone breaking into my house being black, so no rioting or DoJ civil rights case would ensue if I shot them. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 9:20:27 PM EDT
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That's the second screen door reference in this thread... What am I not getting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's the second screen door reference in this thread... What am I not getting? You're gonna get proned out, bro. MEAT FROM BONE. DEVASTATING. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 10:22:13 PM EDT
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You're gonna get proned out, bro. MEAT FROM BONE. DEVASTATING. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's the second screen door reference in this thread... What am I not getting? You're gonna get proned out, bro. MEAT FROM BONE. DEVASTATING. I'm not sure which arf reference this is, either. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 10:56:47 PM EDT
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That's the second screen door reference in this thread... What am I not getting? You're gonna get proned out, bro. MEAT FROM BONE. DEVASTATING. I'm not sure which arf reference this is, either. It's from one of the many Shotgun vs Carbine threads that we've had lately. Herp Derp |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 10:59:20 PM EDT
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In reference to the video above, would there be any legal repercussions to spraying bullets into a group of intruders coming through your door even though someone of them are not armed? In a situation like that it would be hard to shoot just the guys with guns or to even tell if they all had them. Also, fuck magazine capacity limits. Not in California, shoot them all.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:10:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:10:42 PM EDT
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The correct weapon for that situation is a sharp samurai sword
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat reload doesn't seem very efficient somehow 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:13:44 PM EDT
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MKA 1919 12 ga shotgun Pretty much the same ergos as an AR, except for the bolt handle, parts do not interchange though. And it's a piece of shit |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:13:59 PM EDT
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