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Link Posted: 5/22/2015 11:32:40 AM EDT
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Murder during a hostage taking or kidnapping can make this a federal capital murder case.  Several other aspects can potentially make it federal as well.

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The murderer needs to fry.  IIRC though DC doesn't have the death penalty,
so he's looking at three hots and a cot for life on the taxpayers' dime.

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Hell, HOA's in my city have started to resort to DNA testing dog poop found in the neighborhood in attempts to identifying the owner.  If DNA testing has gotten that cheap....  

Just say the word and I'll send you the output from one of my larger snakes for them to test.


Murder during a hostage taking or kidnapping can make this a federal capital murder case.  Several other aspects can potentially make it federal as well.

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the majority of crimes in the District are prosecuted in federal district court
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 11:48:05 AM EDT
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Wait.  You're under the impression that they just let them go otherwise?
 
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Do you assume that being convicted and sentenced to death by a Federal court means that the convicted person is actually executed?

Because they aren't.


If there is no death penalty in a state, then a federal law against murdering kids is preferable to nothing.



Wait.  You're under the impression that they just let them go otherwise?
 


If there is no death penalty in a state, then a federal law against murdering kids is preferable to no chance of a death sentence at all.

Link Posted: 5/22/2015 12:07:43 PM EDT
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The cops sure wouldn't go to those lengths to DNA test pizza for one of us ordinary folks...
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Actually, yes they would.  Evidence is evidence.  You collect it the same, test it the same, every time.

Link Posted: 5/22/2015 12:08:45 PM EDT
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Wow, good example of how the Federal Gov. has increased in power; L.ee Oswald only faced Texas murder charges.

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The murderer needs to fry.  IIRC though DC doesn't have the death penalty,
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Hell, HOA's in my city have started to resort to DNA testing dog poop found in the neighborhood in attempts to identifying the owner.  If DNA testing has gotten that cheap....  


Just say the word and I'll send you the output from one of my larger snakes for them to test.





Murder during a hostage taking or kidnapping can make this a federal capital murder case.  Several other aspects can potentially make it federal as well.



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Wow, good example of how the Federal Gov. has increased in power; L.ee Oswald only faced Texas murder charges.

They only had Oswald in custody for 48 hours before he was killed, the feds may have chosen to press charges if he had lived.

 
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 12:44:44 PM EDT
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If there is no death penalty in a state, then a federal law against murdering kids is preferable to no chance of a death sentence at all.



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So, for you, the symbolism of a never-carried-out death sentence is the critical element?  Or, put another way, it doesn't matter if the condemned man is ever executed and dies of old age - the only thing that matters is the symbolic verdict of death?




And - leaving aside that any senseless homicide is a tragedy - how is the death of a 'kid' more deserving of a symbolic death penalty than the death of an elderly person?  Or a person with Downs Syndrome?  Or a mother with small children at home?  Or a father whose death means his family will be destitute?




And, what is a 'kid'?  Is a 15-year old gang banger with 2-3 murders on his record a 'child'?  And if he isn't, is a 15-year old virgin Eagle Scout? Federal Department of Justice says 'juveniles' include 19-25 year olds.  Does the shooting of a Trayvon Martin or a Micheal Brown result in a Federal prosecution for the 'murder of a kid'?  




Who decides what 'murder of a child' gets a symbolic Federal death sentence?






Link Posted: 5/22/2015 12:54:22 PM EDT
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Well, OP, let's see how the liberal press rationalizes this horrible crime to be "the fault of the oppressive white culture" on a poor, innocent, sweet black man.  

Normally, when they can't do this, they try to rapidly get the story off of the front page as quickly as possible.

Now if this had been a couple of white BGs who broke into the home of a black family and did these crimes, it would be a national news headline for several weeks.  

The hypocritical double standard of the liberal press is nothing short of astounding.  

It is also sickening.
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 1:00:17 PM EDT
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Well, OP, let's see how the liberal press rationalizes this horrible crime to be "the fault of the oppressive white culture" on a poor, innocent, sweet black man.  



Normally, when they can't do this, they try to rapidly get the story off of the front page as quickly as possible.



Now if this had been a couple of white BGs who broke into the home of a black family and did these crimes, it would be a national news headline for several weeks.  



The hypocritical double standard of the liberal press is nothing short of astounding.  



It is also sickening.
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Wow, some of you guys are delusional.  

 
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 1:01:54 PM EDT
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  So, for you, the symbolism of a never-carried-out death sentence is the critical element?  Or, put another way, it doesn't matter if the condemned man is ever executed and dies of old age - the only thing that matters is the symbolic verdict of death?


And - leaving aside that any senseless homicide is a tragedy - how is the death of a 'kid' more deserving of a symbolic death penalty than the death of an elderly person?  Or a person with Downs Syndrome?  Or a mother with small children at home?  Or a father whose death means his family will be destitute?


And, what is a 'kid'?  Is a 15-year old gang banger with 2-3 murders on his record a 'child'?  And if he isn't, is a 15-year old virgin Eagle Scout? Federal Department of Justice says 'juveniles' include 19-25 year olds.  Does the shooting of a Trayvon Martin or a Micheal Brown result in a Federal prosecution for the 'murder of a kid'?  


Who decides what 'murder of a child' gets a symbolic Federal death sentence?

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If there is no death penalty in a state, then a federal law against murdering kids is preferable to no chance of a death sentence at all.


  So, for you, the symbolism of a never-carried-out death sentence is the critical element?  Or, put another way, it doesn't matter if the condemned man is ever executed and dies of old age - the only thing that matters is the symbolic verdict of death?


And - leaving aside that any senseless homicide is a tragedy - how is the death of a 'kid' more deserving of a symbolic death penalty than the death of an elderly person?  Or a person with Downs Syndrome?  Or a mother with small children at home?  Or a father whose death means his family will be destitute?


And, what is a 'kid'?  Is a 15-year old gang banger with 2-3 murders on his record a 'child'?  And if he isn't, is a 15-year old virgin Eagle Scout? Federal Department of Justice says 'juveniles' include 19-25 year olds.  Does the shooting of a Trayvon Martin or a Micheal Brown result in a Federal prosecution for the 'murder of a kid'?  


Who decides what 'murder of a child' gets a symbolic Federal death sentence?



What the fuck are you babbling about?



I want the death penalty to be handed out against child killers even in states without the death penalty. That's it. Deal with it.
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Wow, some of you guys are delusional.    
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Well, OP, let's see how the liberal press rationalizes this horrible crime to be "the fault of the oppressive white culture" on a poor, innocent, sweet black man.  

Normally, when they can't do this, they try to rapidly get the story off of the front page as quickly as possible.

Now if this had been a couple of white BGs who broke into the home of a black family and did these crimes, it would be a national news headline for several weeks.  

The hypocritical double standard of the liberal press is nothing short of astounding.  

It is also sickening.
Wow, some of you guys are delusional.    


delusional or substantiating judgement based on current and past events that have provided a baseline for us to form a well informed opinion?
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 2:06:05 PM EDT
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What the fuck are you babbling about?







I want the death penalty to be handed out against child killers even in states without the death penalty. That's it. Deal with it.

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If there is no death penalty in a state, then a federal law against murdering kids is preferable to no chance of a death sentence at all.





  So, for you, the symbolism of a never-carried-out death sentence is the critical element?  Or, put another way, it doesn't matter if the condemned man is ever executed and dies of old age - the only thing that matters is the symbolic verdict of death?





And - leaving aside that any senseless homicide is a tragedy - how is the death of a 'kid' more deserving of a symbolic death penalty than the death of an elderly person?  Or a person with Downs Syndrome?  Or a mother with small children at home?  Or a father whose death means his family will be destitute?





And, what is a 'kid'?  Is a 15-year old gang banger with 2-3 murders on his record a 'child'?  And if he isn't, is a 15-year old virgin Eagle Scout? Federal Department of Justice says 'juveniles' include 19-25 year olds.  Does the shooting of a Trayvon Martin or a Micheal Brown result in a Federal prosecution for the 'murder of a kid'?  





Who decides what 'murder of a child' gets a symbolic Federal death sentence?







What the fuck are you babbling about?







I want the death penalty to be handed out against child killers even in states without the death penalty. That's it. Deal with it.





 
Again, you are only going to get symbolism of a Federal death sentence for "child killers" (whatever the fuck that is).  Because the Feds haven't executed anyone in 14 years.  That's reality.  Deal with it.



Link Posted: 5/22/2015 2:11:00 PM EDT
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Well, OP, let's see how the liberal press rationalizes this horrible crime to be "the fault of the oppressive white culture" on a poor, innocent, sweet black man.  



Normally, when they can't do this, they try to rapidly get the story off of the front page as quickly as possible.



Now if this had been a couple of white BGs who broke into the home of a black family and did these crimes, it would be a national news headline for several weeks.  



The hypocritical double standard of the liberal press is nothing short of astounding.  



It is also sickening.
Wow, some of you guys are delusional.    




delusional or substantiating judgement based on current and past events that have provided a baseline for us to form a well informed opinion?

No, just delusional.  The liberal press won't try to rationalize this crime, and it will run the usual news cycle.  If anything, this crime will get more coverage due to the class status of the victims.

 


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No, just delusional.  The liberal press won't try to rationalize this crime, and it will run the usual news cycle.  If anything, this crime will get more coverage due to the class status of the victims.    

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Well, OP, let's see how the liberal press rationalizes this horrible crime to be "the fault of the oppressive white culture" on a poor, innocent, sweet black man.  

Normally, when they can't do this, they try to rapidly get the story off of the front page as quickly as possible.

Now if this had been a couple of white BGs who broke into the home of a black family and did these crimes, it would be a national news headline for several weeks.  

The hypocritical double standard of the liberal press is nothing short of astounding.  

It is also sickening.
Wow, some of you guys are delusional.    


delusional or substantiating judgement based on current and past events that have provided a baseline for us to form a well informed opinion?
No, just delusional.  The liberal press won't try to rationalize this crime, and it will run the usual news cycle.  If anything, this crime will get more coverage due to the class status of the victims.    



Gotcha. I can buy some of your post and I may bite on the social class statement but....I think the liberal media and many blacks will blame any extended or seemingly extended press time on the basis that the alleged criminal is black and the crime was black on white.
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Gotcha. I can buy some of your post and I may bite on the social class statement but....I think the liberal media and many blacks will blame any extended or seemingly extended press time on the basis that the alleged criminal is black and the crime was black on white.
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Well, OP, let's see how the liberal press rationalizes this horrible crime to be "the fault of the oppressive white culture" on a poor, innocent, sweet black man.  



Normally, when they can't do this, they try to rapidly get the story off of the front page as quickly as possible.



Now if this had been a couple of white BGs who broke into the home of a black family and did these crimes, it would be a national news headline for several weeks.  



The hypocritical double standard of the liberal press is nothing short of astounding.  



It is also sickening.
Wow, some of you guys are delusional.    




delusional or substantiating judgement based on current and past events that have provided a baseline for us to form a well informed opinion?

No, just delusional.  The liberal press won't try to rationalize this crime, and it will run the usual news cycle.  If anything, this crime will get more coverage due to the class status of the victims.    







Gotcha. I can buy some of your post and I may bite on the social class statement but....I think the liberal media and many blacks will blame any extended or seemingly extended press time on the basis that the alleged criminal is black and the crime was black on white.
To be clear, I'm just stating the fact that the victims are upper class.  I'm not judging against them for that fact just stating that they'll get more press over a family that was living in a trailer park.  

 
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 3:14:35 PM EDT
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There is, but not in this life..............they will recieve theirs in the end

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Thank god they weren't there.

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there's no punishment cruel enough for this savage

Link Posted: 5/22/2015 3:36:53 PM EDT
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So uncharacteristic for a defense attorney to lie, so it must be true that he is a very nice person.
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Did I make it in before the media starts playing stories about how the suspect was a decent guy who didn't get the same advantages as others in society, had a mental illness preventing him from controlling his actions and who has no recollection of the crime?


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Robin Ficker, a defense attorney who represented Wint for minor criminal and traffic cases, said he doesn't think Wint is violent.

"My impression of him - I remember him rather well - is that he wouldn't hurt a fly," Ficker told the AP. "He's a very nice person."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/quadruple-murder-suspect-believed-brooklyn-article-1.2230906


So uncharacteristic for a defense attorney to lie, so it must be true that he is a very nice person.


Yeah, nice people rape, torture and kill 10 year-old boys all the time.  



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Link Posted: 5/22/2015 3:50:12 PM EDT
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No link yet, from the Yahoo home page:        






Okay, there it is.











Authorities say more than 1 person responsible for Washington mansion slayings











 
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Nope, just want him to clarify. If you're going to state something, come out and say it. Don't try to act coy about it and skirt around what you're trying to say. State your intentions or get the fuck out. As they say "you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?"
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Yup.  Guaranteed they would have raped them all night long.  They can't help themselves.  They definitely raped the boy, wife and housekeeper and made the father watch it.  Drinking, eating, raping and doing drugs is about the limits of their mental capacity.

Who is "they?"


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Nope, just want him to clarify. If you're going to state something, come out and say it. Don't try to act coy about it and skirt around what you're trying to say. State your intentions or get the fuck out. As they say "you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?"


Social Justice Warriors like you go out of their way to imagine things to offend themselves.  It's what you do.  And you still didn't read the article.

What's your username on DU?  DU'ers stirring shit again.  How original.




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Link Posted: 5/22/2015 5:40:43 PM EDT
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So what will happen to the dead husbands big steel manufacturing company? Kinda sad he was only 45 years old and was building a nice empire for his son to take over one day.



Here's a link to the families business.

http://www.americanironworks.com/

http://www.americanironworks.com/missionStatement.aspx
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 5:57:33 PM EDT
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What has been released about the $40k in cash being needed to open a martial arts business does not make any sense.



Checks, bank transfers and credit cards are generally used business to business.



Cash is not a preferred method of doing business outside of retail and even then, received cash is pulled and deposited and you basically keep just enough cash to make change.
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Okay, there it is.


Authorities say more than 1 person responsible for Washington mansion slayings



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A "Mr. Wint" was arrested? I would be looking for a "Mr. Kidd".

Only half joking here. Life does in fact imitate art at times.
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It makes me tear up just seeing that picture of that little boy, knowing that he was mutilated and killed by some piece of shit. Just one more innocent individual who's freedom was snatched away... and for what? A grudge, a problem at work with his dad? Fuck Daron Wint. I hope justice is swift and severe. I wish we'd make an example out of some of these monsters.
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What has been released about the $40k in cash being needed to open a martial arts business does not make any sense.



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It is very common among the Greek-American business community to make cash loans to relatives and / or friends.

 
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It makes me tear up just seeing that picture of that little boy, knowing that he was mutilated and killed by some piece of shit. Just one more innocent individual who's freedom was snatched away... and for what? A grudge, a problem at work with his dad? Fuck Daron Wint. I hope justice is swift and severe. I wish we'd make an example out of some of these monsters.
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Most of us know that there is no justice or punishment severe enough in today's world for such a crime.
imo there will soon be a time when many will have had enough of our failed and lame punishment after due process of course(for you libs taking notes) and people will just start eliminating threats to our children and a civilized society in general.  Yep, may be wrong but, our justice system has become pathetic, failing and enough is enough.
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What has been released about the $40k in cash being needed to open a martial arts business does not make any sense.

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Cash is not a preferred method of doing business outside of retail and even then, received cash is pulled and deposited and you basically keep just enough cash to make change.
It is very common among the Greek-American business community to make cash loans to relatives and / or friends.  



The killers made them call for the money I figure.
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I can see it happening easily.

Because all of Arfcom are marathon running, bodybuilding  Multi millionaire corporate board members I'm surprised this is even an issue.

Guy who was ordered to bring the money would be unlikely to have any say or even know what financial decisions the company makes. He should be out of a job real quick if his superiors have to face a barrage of questions every time they wanted something done. I would not tolerate if for starters.



 


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The dirtbag was caught with 4 other people and a mound of $100 bills. The other 4 were released with no charges.
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What has been released about the $40k in cash being needed to open a martial arts business does not make any sense.



Checks, bank transfers and credit cards are generally used business to business.



Cash is not a preferred method of doing business outside of retail and even then, received cash is pulled and deposited and you basically keep just enough cash to make change.
It is very common among the Greek-American business community to make cash loans to relatives and / or friends.  






The killers made them call for the money I figure.
I think this is one possibility that makes more sense.  I figured, the article was poorly written and the cash was a ransom in contradiction to what was written.  However, the article implied that the cash was not a ransom, it was a prearranged move directed by the CEO.  This would imply that the killer was tipped off by someone who knew about the money coming in.



There are other possiblilities.  



But the lesson of Rob Roy, is don't deal in cash for large sums when checks and bank transfers are more secure.



I would expect the circumstances of the cash will be investigated.



I personally feel cash is legal tender, however, it is also cumbersome in large amounts for business transactions.  Someone actually had to go to the bank and get the money and hand deliver it to the house.  I wouldn't dream of doing business that way.
 
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I can see it happening easily.





Because all of Arfcom are marathon running, bodybuilding  Multi millionaire corporate board members I'm surprised this is even an issue.





Guy who was ordered to bring the money would be unlikely to have any say or even know what financial decisions the company makes. He should be out of a job real quick if his superiors have to face a barrage of questions every time they wanted something done. I would not tolerate if for starters.
 








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What has been released about the $40k in cash being needed to open a martial arts business does not make any sense.





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Cash is not a preferred method of doing business outside of retail and even then, received cash is pulled and deposited and you basically keep just enough cash to make change.






I can see it happening easily.





Because all of Arfcom are marathon running, bodybuilding  Multi millionaire corporate board members I'm surprised this is even an issue.





Guy who was ordered to bring the money would be unlikely to have any say or even know what financial decisions the company makes. He should be out of a job real quick if his superiors have to face a barrage of questions every time they wanted something done. I would not tolerate if for starters.
 








I'm not questioning the person following orders, I am questioning why a CEO does business that way.



While I am not a marathon runner, I did own a business and we almost never had a need for cash transactions much less ones involving $40K.





 
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I'm not questioning the person following orders, I am questioning why a CEO does business that way.

... much less ones involving $40K.
 
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What has been released about the $40k in cash being needed to open a martial arts business does not make any sense.

Checks, bank transfers and credit cards are generally used business to business.

Cash is not a preferred method of doing business outside of retail and even then, received cash is pulled and deposited and you basically keep just enough cash to make change.


I can see it happening easily.

Because all of Arfcom are marathon running, bodybuilding  Multi millionaire corporate board members I'm surprised this is even an issue.

Guy who was ordered to bring the money would be unlikely to have any say or even know what financial decisions the company makes. He should be out of a job real quick if his superiors have to face a barrage of questions every time they wanted something done. I would not tolerate if for starters.



 


I'm not questioning the person following orders, I am questioning why a CEO does business that way.

... much less ones involving $40K.
 


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  I think everyone's well aware that no race has a monopoly on violence....so your social justice messaging isn't needed





Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the overwhelming, staggering disproportion of violent crime/homicide rates per capita among blacks.





What is needed is a far better awareness of how 13% of the U.S. population is so grotesquely over represented when it comes to creating victims and corpses from coast to coast. So while the plane your on is falling from the sky, spiraling to the ground with no power, pinning the screaming passengers to their seats under the g-forces of a free fall, you stay busy complaining to the stewardess about how chapped you are that they ran out of the chicken dinner and only have pasta left.
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Reminds me of those two black guys that did that home invasion in CT, beat the father half to death with a bat, raped the mom and two daughters overnight, and set the women on fire after dousing them with gasoline.


  Those were white guys.



Petit family in Chesire.







he was being snarky & showcasing his moral superiority to the hoi polloi of GD, don't you know.  he's like a 2mink apprentice
Just pointing out to the whole "Obama's sons", or "I'm not surprised" people that whites are capable of brutally murdering families as well.  





  I think everyone's well aware that no race has a monopoly on violence....so your social justice messaging isn't needed





Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the overwhelming, staggering disproportion of violent crime/homicide rates per capita among blacks.





What is needed is a far better awareness of how 13% of the U.S. population is so grotesquely over represented when it comes to creating victims and corpses from coast to coast. So while the plane your on is falling from the sky, spiraling to the ground with no power, pinning the screaming passengers to their seats under the g-forces of a free fall, you stay busy complaining to the stewardess about how chapped you are that they ran out of the chicken dinner and only have pasta left.
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Wow, some of you guys are delusional.    
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Well, OP, let's see how the liberal press rationalizes this horrible crime to be "the fault of the oppressive white culture" on a poor, innocent, sweet black man.  

Normally, when they can't do this, they try to rapidly get the story off of the front page as quickly as possible.

Now if this had been a couple of white BGs who broke into the home of a black family and did these crimes, it would be a national news headline for several weeks.  

The hypocritical double standard of the liberal press is nothing short of astounding.  

It is also sickening.
Wow, some of you guys are delusional.    



You misspelled " exactly right."
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What has been released about the $40k in cash being needed to open a martial arts business does not make any sense.

Checks, bank transfers and credit cards are generally used business to business.

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They're saying now the that cash courier has changed their story several times.

My guess is the courier tipped off his buddy and set the plan in motion.
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Yes they would.

Everyone one is tied tortured and torched but there is a bunch of pizza lying around?
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Who is "they?"
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Thank god they weren't there.

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Yup.  Guaranteed they would have raped them all night long.  They can't help themselves.  They definitely raped the boy, wife and housekeeper and made the father watch it.  Drinking, eating, raping and doing drugs is about the limits of their mental capacity.

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Who is "they?"

Why the police of course.....





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Yes they would.

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Yes they would.

Everyone one is tied tortured and torched but there is a bunch of pizza lying around?


Most likely thrown in the trash outside. The fuckbagpeiceofshitmotherfuckingworthlessbastardsthatshoulddieaslowandpainfulldeath may of tried to clean their mess up prior to the thought of torching the home.

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But not more press than some dirty people who annoy you get, who happen to have assaulted shop owners, run from police, assaulted said police, or even a combination of all three. They seem to be media darlings these days.

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Most likely thrown in the trash outside. The fuckbagpeiceofshitmotherfuckingworthlessbastardsthatshoulddieaslowandpainfulldeath may of tried to clean their mess up prior to the thought of torching the home.

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Yes they would.

Everyone one is tied tortured and torched but there is a bunch of pizza lying around?


Most likely thrown in the trash outside. The fuckbagpeiceofshitmotherfuckingworthlessbastardsthatshoulddieaslowandpainfulldeath may of tried to clean their mess up prior to the thought of torching the home.


Dude..... Do you really think he cleaned shit up?
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The criminal complaint also provides more details about the death of
the family’s 10-year-old son and the fire that was set. Philip died of
both thermal injuries and sharp force wounds.



His body was found lying on the charred remnants of a mattress, much
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Dude..... Do you really think he cleaned shit up?
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The cops sure wouldn't go to those lengths to DNA test pizza for one of us ordinary folks...

Yes they would.

Everyone one is tied tortured and torched but there is a bunch of pizza lying around?


Most likely thrown in the trash outside. The fuckbagpeiceofshitmotherfuckingworthlessbastardsthatshoulddieaslowandpainfulldeath may of tried to clean their mess up prior to the thought of torching the home.


Dude..... Do you really think he cleaned shit up?


They likely tried to burn the house down to destroy any DNA evidence.
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They're saying now the that cash courier has changed their story several times.



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What has been released about the $40k in cash being needed to open a martial arts business does not make any sense.



Checks, bank transfers and credit cards are generally used business to business.



Cash is not a preferred method of doing business outside of retail and even then, received cash is pulled and deposited and you basically keep just enough cash to make change.




They're saying now the that cash courier has changed their story several times.



My guess is the courier tipped off his buddy and set the plan in motion.




 
Still a very odd situation.  I've started, sold, and bought businesses several times in my life, but I never used any cash.
Link Posted: 5/23/2015 3:10:35 PM EDT
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Lost in the discussion is the fact that the monster immigrated from Africa 15 years ago. We are importing barbarism and paying a heavy price for it.
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If there is no death penalty in a state, then a federal law against murdering kids is preferable to nothing.



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Do you assume that being convicted and sentenced to death by a Federal court means that the convicted person is actually executed?

Because they aren't.


If there is no death penalty in a state, then a federal law against murdering kids is preferable to nothing.





Maybe voters in such states should reimpose the death penalty or move.
We have too many federal laws already for special snowflakes.
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No shit I couldn't even get them to take finger prints when our place was broken into and you could see prints on a lot of the glass.
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No shit I couldn't even get them to take finger prints when our place was broken into and you could see prints on a lot of the glass.
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No shit I couldn't even get them to take finger prints when our place was broken into and you could see prints on a lot of the glass.


I'm not going to argue that the high profile nature of the crime and the community standing of the victims may have contributed to some extra focus on the investigation.  But I don't think it's a fair comparison to equate a robbery of property with a multiple murder scene which included a murdered (and possibly tortured) child.
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I wonder where here learned about the techniques of torturing rich white families, including their children, to extort modest amounts of cash?
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Yes they would.

Everyone one is tied tortured and torched but there is a bunch of pizza lying around?


Most likely thrown in the trash outside. The fuckbagpeiceofshitmotherfuckingworthlessbastardsthatshoulddieaslowandpainfulldeath may of tried to clean their mess up prior to the thought of torching the home.


Dude..... Do you really think he cleaned shit up?


Dude...I do. Aside from torching the place, I think they tried to cover their tracks in and out. That to me is cleaning their shit up, dude.
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They tortured the little boy too.
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I hate people.
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No shit I couldn't even get them to take finger prints when our place was broken into and you could see prints on a lot of the glass.
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No shit I couldn't even get them to take finger prints when our place was broken into and you could see prints on a lot of the glass.

That's not exactly a multiple murder scene.
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Police are focusing on the employee who dropped the money off at the house.  He couldn't remember if he put the money in a manila envelope or a red bag, despite texting a picture of the money in the red bag to a friend hours before he dropped it off, and admitted to the police he lied about where he dropped the money off at.







The only report I can find about it is a video.
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