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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:21:56 PM EDT
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In related news, pistol-forum just posted the El Prez as their Drill of the Week... ...to be shot at 25 yards.   nopenopenopenopenope |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:12:48 PM EDT
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I get out to my land, get my targets set up, and it starts to pour. 
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adsljfhalksjfvbakjwnfvjrasdfkhasdkf Just realized I don't have any USPSA targets. All my LGS has are the useless IDPA silhouettes.  I don't care if you just use paper on a cardboard backer. As long as the measurements are right  I get out to my land, get my targets set up, and it starts to pour.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:13:17 PM EDT
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In related news, pistol-forum just posted the El Prez as their Drill of the Week... ...to be shot at 25 yards. That's hilarious! 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:53:24 PM EDT
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Just did a couple runs in between thunderstorms. My best was like an 81% or something. I'll edit them tonight. Lots of bloopers for this one.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:58:25 PM EDT
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Just did a couple runs in between thunderstorms. My best was like an 81% or something. I'll edit them tonight. Lots of bloopers for this one. Bloopers 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:33:12 PM EDT
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I shot my Production gun and Limited gun for comparison. First two runs with the 9mm were 100% and 99% which were the best two. Did several after just messing around and didn't score as high. I suppose that's a good thing.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:49:01 PM EDT
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I shot my Production gun and Limited gun for comparison. First two runs with the 9mm were 100% and 99% which were the best two. Did several after just messing around and didn't score as high. I suppose that's a good thing.
Videos will be up later. Only had one good blooper with a bad reload. I hate you |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:59:54 PM EDT
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I shot my Production gun and Limited gun for comparison. First two runs with the 9mm were 100% and 99% which were the best two. Did several after just messing around and didn't score as high. I suppose that's a good thing.
Videos will be up later. Only had one good blooper with a bad reload. I hate you Don't worry. I'll be much lower
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Posted: 7/1/2015 10:02:10 PM EDT
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I shot my Production gun and Limited gun for comparison. First two runs with the 9mm were 100% and 99% which were the best two. Did several after just messing around and didn't score as high. I suppose that's a good thing.
Videos will be up later. Only had one good blooper with a bad reload. I hate you 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:21:55 PM EDT
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Here is my best run, despite the slowwww reload. Bloopers are at the end. With all of the ammo problems I was having and some other sloppy mistakes, I only shot 3 clean runs (70%, 79%, 83%).
83.2% (Production) Time: 6.32 Points: 54 HF: 8.5443 Glock 34 gen4, 13lb stainless Jager guide rod/spring, Sevigny sights, Perfecta 115gr ammo 1.22 Draw 1.52 1.91 2.21 2.62 2.89 4.71 (1.82 reload) 5.00 5.39 5.69 6.09 6.32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMPebxOTa8 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:52:23 PM EDT
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Here is my best run, despite the slowwww reload. Bloopers are at the end. With all of the ammo problems I was having and some other sloppy mistakes, I only shot 3 clean runs (70%, 79%, 83%).
83.2% (Production) Time: 6.32 Points: 54 HF: 8.5443 Glock 34 gen4, 13lb stainless Jager guide rod/spring, Sevigny sights, Perfecta 115gr ammo 1.22 Draw 1.52 1.91 2.21 2.62 2.89 4.71 (1.82 reload) 5.00 5.39 5.69 6.09 6.32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMPebxOTa8  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMPebxOTa8That was all perfrecta 9mm!?! I've been buying a shit load of that but haven't shot any of it yet! I have been mostly using SAA Remanufactured ammo and replacing it with Perfecta
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:53:26 PM EDT
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Videos are uploading now.
Here are the runs: 
The date is wrong on there that's when I started messing with creating stages in practiscore. Production: #2 10.7407 = 100% #1 9.8232 = 95.7321% #3 8.4211 = 82.0679% Limited (major scoring) #1 10.7287 = 99.3287% #3 10.3520 = 95.8412% #2 10.1695 = 94.1515% Pro tip: If you're doing any type of practice and you want to see your hit factor without doing math, download the practiscore app and create the stage on your phone. Put in your time, put in your hits, bam, done. I added different shooters as myself, so I could see try #1 Limited, try #1 Production, etc etc. The only thing is it didn't keep track of the order I put the scores in, I think I did two production runs, then two limited runs, then switched back and forth for the last two. It probably didn't hurt my shooting at all since I don't really see much difference in the recoil but the reloads with the heavy ass magazines are a lot different. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:56:00 PM EDT
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That was all perfrecta 9mm!?! I've been buying a shit load of that but haven't shot any of it yet! I have been mostly using SAA Remanufactured ammo and replacing it with Perfecta Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is my best run, despite the slowwww reload. Bloopers are at the end. With all of the ammo problems I was having and some other sloppy mistakes, I only shot 3 clean runs (70%, 79%, 83%).
83.2% (Production) Time: 6.32 Points: 54 HF: 8.5443 Glock 34 gen4, 13lb stainless Jager guide rod/spring, Sevigny sights, Perfecta 115gr ammo 1.22 Draw 1.52 1.91 2.21 2.62 2.89 4.71 (1.82 reload) 5.00 5.39 5.69 6.09 6.32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMPebxOTa8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMPebxOTa8That was all perfrecta 9mm!?! I've been buying a shit load of that but haven't shot any of it yet! I have been mostly using SAA Remanufactured ammo and replacing it with Perfecta Yep. Bought a case of 1000 for $140. At that price I'll put up with it, but it has been less than reliable. I need to go back to Freedom--never had these kinds of problems with them. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:58:36 PM EDT
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Yep. Bought a case of 1000 for $140. At that price I'll put up with it, but it has been less than reliable. I need to go back to Freedom--never had these kinds of problems with them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is my best run, despite the slowwww reload. Bloopers are at the end. With all of the ammo problems I was having and some other sloppy mistakes, I only shot 3 clean runs (70%, 79%, 83%).
83.2% (Production) Time: 6.32 Points: 54 HF: 8.5443 Glock 34 gen4, 13lb stainless Jager guide rod/spring, Sevigny sights, Perfecta 115gr ammo 1.22 Draw 1.52 1.91 2.21 2.62 2.89 4.71 (1.82 reload) 5.00 5.39 5.69 6.09 6.32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMPebxOTa8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMPebxOTa8That was all perfrecta 9mm!?! I've been buying a shit load of that but haven't shot any of it yet! I have been mostly using SAA Remanufactured ammo and replacing it with Perfecta Yep. Bought a case of 1000 for $140. At that price I'll put up with it, but it has been less than reliable. I need to go back to Freedom--never had these kinds of problems with them. I'll see how it runs in my guns but I already want to stick with BVAC and SAA... |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 3:33:40 AM EDT
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The blooper was a .40 mag that I don't usually use but loaded to save time instead of reloading my bigger mags. Didn't work out so well. The last part, I slowed down and spliced together runs with the 9mm and .40 to look at the recoil comparison. I should have listed my splits and reload times on each, I only said them for one of the runs. I was hoping the camera could see the time on the timer but it wasn't close enough. The funny thing is my overall best hit factor was the run I got a crappy grip with my left hand after the reload and slowed down my pace. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:06:22 AM EDT
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So a gamer trick is to load 7 so you don't have to perform a slide lock reload. Interesting.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:20:02 AM EDT
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Gamer? I don't carry a gun that only holds six, so I don't practice with a gun only holding six. That could get you killed on the streets.
I also didn't read close enough to see you requested a slide lock reload. I'll try record another 
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:56:32 AM EDT
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Gamer? I don't carry a gun that only holds six, so I don't practice with a gun only holding six. That could get you killed on the streets. I also didn't read close enough to see you requested a slide lock reload. I'll try record another No it doesn't say a slide lock reload is mandatory. Though it did say concealment. I'll change that. No concealment needed. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:39:11 AM EDT
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No it doesn't say a slide lock reload is mandatory. Though it did say concealment. I'll change that. No concealment needed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gamer? I don't carry a gun that only holds six, so I don't practice with a gun only holding six. That could get you killed on the streets. I also didn't read close enough to see you requested a slide lock reload. I'll try record another No it doesn't say a slide lock reload is mandatory. Though it did say concealment. I'll change that. No concealment needed. You sure? No classifier requires concealment. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 10:21:03 AM EDT
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Gamer? I don't carry a gun that only holds six, so I don't practice with a gun only holding six. That could get you killed on the streets. I also didn't read close enough to see you requested a slide lock reload. I'll try record another No it doesn't say a slide lock reload is mandatory. Though it did say concealment. I'll change that. No concealment needed. You sure? No classifier requires concealment. I copy and pasted from Pistol training. They have concealment as a requirement. I didn't realize that. Anything USPSA I just assume it's never from concealment. Why I didn't notice it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 5:37:34 PM EDT
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Gamer? I don't carry a gun that only holds six, so I don't practice with a gun only holding six. That could get you killed on the streets. I also didn't read close enough to see you requested a slide lock reload. I'll try record another  Well played.
I completely forgot about this thread when I was at the range earlier. Of course, I didn't have a video camera with me either. I could have showed you guys how it's done in C class.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 1:12:31 PM EDT
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Tried the grip with more torque. Shot worse. I was really cranking into it, too much. Then I ran a few strings of rapid firing and really paid attention to my grip. Turns out, I was already torquing in. Just not overly torqued. I'll work on it but it's probably just the Sig being a Sig.
Shot 200 rounds of 22lr and 250 of that 9mm perfecta. Worked fine. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 12:31:06 PM EDT
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Did some practice today and that grip modification. Yesterday I was torquing in more with the hands. Today I used my elbows and it really started to feel better. Some more practice and I should be GTG.
Best runs were: Sig P226 Time: 7.06 Clean Points: 60 HF: 8.5 Production: 82.8% Draw: 2.16 RL: 2.04 Time: 6.18 3c 1d Points: 50 HF: 8.09 Production: 78.8% Draw: 1.6 RL: 2.01 Time: 5.76 4c 1d Points: 48 HF: 8.33 Production: 81.1% Draw: 1.51 RL: 1.74 I'll do my official run tomorrow. Just wanted to work on the grip change. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:44:58 PM EDT
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So the next few "challenges" will be the CSAT rifle standards followed by El Prez but with an AR. After that I'm thinking shotgun? I'll merge some CSAT standards into a shotgun challenge. But for that I think a requirement will be that it is a pump gun and will require slugs. Then perhaps an El Prez shotgun edition
Just to change it up and IMHO add the "fun" to it
My goal is to keep this fairly balanced and not focus too much on any one platform. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:49:35 PM EDT
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So the next few "challenges" will be the CSAT rifle standards followed by El Prez but with an AR. After that I'm thinking shotgun? I'll merge some CSAT standards into a shotgun challenge. But for that I think a requirement will be that it is a pump gun and will require slugs. Then perhaps an El Prez shotgun edition
Just to change it up and IMHO add the "fun" to it
My goal is to keep this fairly balanced and not focus too much on any one platform. For shotgun, we should do whoever can toss by hand and shoot the most clays before they hit the ground. With a pump. My record is 4.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:52:58 PM EDT
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For shotgun, we should do whoever can toss by hand and shoot the most clays before they hit the ground. With a pump. My record is 4. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the next few "challenges" will be the CSAT rifle standards followed by El Prez but with an AR. After that I'm thinking shotgun? I'll merge some CSAT standards into a shotgun challenge. But for that I think a requirement will be that it is a pump gun and will require slugs. Then perhaps an El Prez shotgun edition
Just to change it up and IMHO add the "fun" to it
My goal is to keep this fairly balanced and not focus too much on any one platform. For shotgun, we should do whoever can toss by hand and shoot the most clays before they hit the ground. With a pump. My record is 4. Lol id get like 2... But they'd all break, does that still count
But good idea! I'll add that one
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:58:41 PM EDT
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Lol id get like 2... But they'd all break, does that still count
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So the next few "challenges" will be the CSAT rifle standards followed by El Prez but with an AR. After that I'm thinking shotgun? I'll merge some CSAT standards into a shotgun challenge. But for that I think a requirement will be that it is a pump gun and will require slugs. Then perhaps an El Prez shotgun edition
Just to change it up and IMHO add the "fun" to it
My goal is to keep this fairly balanced and not focus too much on any one platform. For shotgun, we should do whoever can toss by hand and shoot the most clays before they hit the ground. With a pump. My record is 4. Lol id get like 2... But they'd all break, does that still count
But good idea! I'll add that one The 4 I shot were individual hits, but I've broken 3 with 1 shell before. I aint worried bout it
I suck with a rifle and rarely shoot mine. Never shot kneeling before either. That's gonna be rough at 50/75yd |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:02:05 PM EDT
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This is also the kind of stuff I do with a shotgun. Birdshot is a quick and easy way to remove paint from steel. It also gives you a down and dirty crash course about cover.
This felt like a video game almost. It's harder than it looks, and I was using crappy ammo that got stuck on me. Still fun and different nonetheless.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:22:53 PM EDT
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So the next few "challenges" will be the CSAT rifle standards followed by El Prez but with an AR. After that I'm thinking shotgun? I'll merge some CSAT standards into a shotgun challenge. But for that I think a requirement will be that it is a pump gun and will require slugs. Then perhaps an El Prez shotgun edition
Just to change it up and IMHO add the "fun" to it
My goal is to keep this fairly balanced and not focus too much on any one platform. For shotgun, we should do whoever can toss by hand and shoot the most clays before they hit the ground. With a pump. My record is 4. Lol id get like 2... But they'd all break, does that still count
But good idea! I'll add that one The 4 I shot were individual hits, but I've broken 3 with 1 shell before. I aint worried bout it
I suck with a rifle and rarely shoot mine. Never shot kneeling before either. That's gonna be rough at 50/75yd The Multigun I used to shoot was typically fairly even between rifle and pistol but if it leaned one way more then another it was to the rifle. IMO rifle shooting is way easier then pistol shooting
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:17:46 AM EDT
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El prez with a rifle... that sounds fun.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 2:57:25 PM EDT
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Should have videoed yesterday's 8.5 HF...
Best of today was 8.33 HF... Time was 5.76 6c But goes to show my 7.06s clean run had a higher HF... |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 5:15:21 PM EDT
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6.24s 8A 4C Hit Factor: 8.333 I knew there was no way in hell that I was going to turn in a GM-level performance, so this week was pretty much just for shits and giggles. I was a bit slow re-establishing my grip after the reload, and T3 was sloppy, but otherwise I think this is about the best I can do with this gear. I'm happy with A-class Production (even though technically my stipple job puts me in fucking Limited or L-10). |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:34:10 PM EDT
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Time: 5.76 6c HF: 8.333 Classifier: 81.18% Sig P226R Blade Tech Eclipse BlackHawk BST Double Mag Pouch |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:34:53 PM EDT
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8A 4C Hit Factor: 8.333 I knew there was no way in hell that I was going to turn in a GM-level performance, so this week was pretty much just for shits and giggles. I was a bit slow re-establishing my grip after the reload, and T3 was sloppy, but otherwise I think this is about the best I can do with this gear. I'm happy with A-class Production (even though technically my stipple job puts me in fucking Limited or L-10). 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:36:36 PM EDT
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Grip and recoil management, critique? Had my elbows torqued.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:17:36 PM EDT
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You should try a side by side with yourself shooting a Glock... bore axis ftw.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:22:05 PM EDT
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You should try a side by side with yourself shooting a Glock... bore axis ftw. No access to a Glock right now 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:30:17 PM EDT
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You should try a side by side with yourself shooting a Glock... bore axis ftw. No access to a Glock right now I have one......
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:50:01 PM EDT
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You should try a side by side with yourself shooting a Glock... bore axis ftw. No access to a Glock right now I have one......
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Posted: 7/6/2015 1:50:29 AM EDT
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I'll see if I can borrow a Sig and do a comparison of my own.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 4:25:39 AM EDT
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I'll see if I can borrow a Sig and do a comparison of my own. I tried it with a friend's M11 compared to my G19 with an X300U, as I carry it. The M11 was noticeably stiffer recoiling. We took a video, but I lost everything due to my phone wiping itself clean.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:44:34 AM EDT
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What are the details of the % you guys are talking about and how is it calculated?
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:41:15 AM EDT
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What are the details of the % you guys are talking about and how is it calculated? Hit Factor Classifier Calculator Take your hit factor and enter in your "division" for the given classifier and get a % based on your peers. Tells you where you rank and what class a shooter you are. El Presidente is a classifier, 99-11. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 2:53:06 PM EDT
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I see we've convinced you to change the OP to the scoring method designed by God Himself.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 3:20:27 PM EDT
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I see we've convinced you to change the OP to the scoring method designed by God Himself. Lol maybe. It's just more consistent. I think it does encourage speed over accuracy to a degree but it seems to comprise enough. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 12:02:00 PM EDT
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AJE is the winner of the El Pres this time around
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Posted: 7/8/2015 7:37:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/8/2015 1:09:12 PM EDT
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I tried it with a friend's M11 compared to my G19 with an X300U, as I carry it. The M11 was noticeably stiffer recoiling. We took a video, but I lost everything due to my phone wiping itself clean.
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It's the bore axis and heavy slide IMHO. I aquired a 226 in 9mm today. When the weather and my schedule cooperates I will do some close up slow motion videos. I'll try several different Glocks and the Sig and my 1911. I might try to borrow an XD as well. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 1:22:53 PM EDT
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With Pointman and AJE participating I'm never gonna win.
I was planning on busting BillDoubleU in the knee, hand, and shoulder to earn a victory but it won't matter now.
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Posted: 7/8/2015 1:27:23 PM EDT
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With Pointman and AJE participating I'm never gonna win.
I was planning on busting BillDoubleU in the knee, hand, and shoulder to earn a victory but it won't matter now. You will once we start rifle stuff. I suck with a rifle.
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