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Posted: 5/4/2015 11:59:09 PM EDT
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Thats why they had the lottery system. Frankly with 75% ineligable for service now, the "run to canada" freedom crowd, and the various dodgers, who knows what the % would be. I have to ask the "ain't no fucking way I'm going to be drafted" crowd: How many of you didn't sign up for Selective Service? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doing the numbers, if every person was conscripted when they turn 18 and held for two years, that would mean everyone born from about 1995-1997 would currently be conscripted. That is almost 12 million people, WTF are we going to do with 12 million unskilled conscripts? this would be on top of the people who are already in the military, those who stayed past their mandatory conscription time. Let's say we have another million people who are volunteers that stayed in the military in some capacity beyond their conscription, that makes 13 million. Now add the bloated civilian federal and state bureaucracies that would surely not go away. Just what percentage of the population do you people want working for the government? Thats why they had the lottery system. Frankly with 75% ineligable for service now, the "run to canada" freedom crowd, and the various dodgers, who knows what the % would be. I have to ask the "ain't no fucking way I'm going to be drafted" crowd: How many of you didn't sign up for Selective Service? Or, how many refuse to report for jury duty since it's "involuntary servitude"? |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 5:52:28 AM EDT
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Or, how many refuse to report for jury duty since it's "involuntary servitude"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doing the numbers, if every person was conscripted when they turn 18 and held for two years, that would mean everyone born from about 1995-1997 would currently be conscripted. That is almost 12 million people, WTF are we going to do with 12 million unskilled conscripts? this would be on top of the people who are already in the military, those who stayed past their mandatory conscription time. Let's say we have another million people who are volunteers that stayed in the military in some capacity beyond their conscription, that makes 13 million. Now add the bloated civilian federal and state bureaucracies that would surely not go away. Just what percentage of the population do you people want working for the government? Thats why they had the lottery system. Frankly with 75% ineligable for service now, the "run to canada" freedom crowd, and the various dodgers, who knows what the % would be. I have to ask the "ain't no fucking way I'm going to be drafted" crowd: How many of you didn't sign up for Selective Service? Or, how many refuse to report for jury duty since it's "involuntary servitude"? but that is a civic duty! where you won't get shot and it really isn't that hard. i'm all for civic duty. for about 2 weeks. |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 5:54:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or, how many refuse to report for jury duty since it's "involuntary servitude"? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Doing the numbers, if every person was conscripted when they turn 18 and held for two years, that would mean everyone born from about 1995-1997 would currently be conscripted. That is almost 12 million people, WTF are we going to do with 12 million unskilled conscripts? this would be on top of the people who are already in the military, those who stayed past their mandatory conscription time. Let's say we have another million people who are volunteers that stayed in the military in some capacity beyond their conscription, that makes 13 million. Now add the bloated civilian federal and state bureaucracies that would surely not go away. Just what percentage of the population do you people want working for the government? Thats why they had the lottery system. Frankly with 75% ineligable for service now, the "run to canada" freedom crowd, and the various dodgers, who knows what the % would be. I have to ask the "ain't no fucking way I'm going to be drafted" crowd: How many of you didn't sign up for Selective Service? Or, how many refuse to report for jury duty since it's "involuntary servitude"? But but but, that's different! |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 8:20:02 AM EDT
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I did a ctrl+f and still can't find slave any where in my post. Just to be clear, is your argument, since it has been done before, it's okay to do now? What's the opposite of a freeman who does not enjoy his natural rights due to bondage and force? We'd call that man a slave in Ohio. Nothing in my post was an appeal to tradition. |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 8:40:21 AM EDT
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God no. The last thing the military needs is MORE people that don't want to be there.
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Posted: 5/5/2015 9:34:28 AM EDT
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God no. The last thing the military needs is MORE people that don't want to be there. at least they would go away after 2 years instead of spending 20 years and getting a retirement. |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 6:14:18 PM EDT
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Or, how many refuse to report for jury duty since it's "involuntary servitude"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doing the numbers, if every person was conscripted when they turn 18 and held for two years, that would mean everyone born from about 1995-1997 would currently be conscripted. That is almost 12 million people, WTF are we going to do with 12 million unskilled conscripts? this would be on top of the people who are already in the military, those who stayed past their mandatory conscription time. Let's say we have another million people who are volunteers that stayed in the military in some capacity beyond their conscription, that makes 13 million. Now add the bloated civilian federal and state bureaucracies that would surely not go away. Just what percentage of the population do you people want working for the government? Thats why they had the lottery system. Frankly with 75% ineligable for service now, the "run to canada" freedom crowd, and the various dodgers, who knows what the % would be. I have to ask the "ain't no fucking way I'm going to be drafted" crowd: How many of you didn't sign up for Selective Service? Or, how many refuse to report for jury duty since it's "involuntary servitude"? They are too busy blowing through toll boths on the highway. |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 6:45:44 PM EDT
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Jury Duty is slavery!
And you mock this? You try to make me serve on one of your juries, I'll shoot your statist ass! |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 6:54:02 PM EDT
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Not sure what you mean. I'm saying that we're already paying these deadbeats anyway, so we should make them work for it. If that means giving them E1 pay & making them a fobbit, then we still win. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How would you pay for it? Take the money from welfare, food stamps, section 8... Instead of public assistance you get shipped to a military base where you get 3 hots & a cot. If you fuck up bad enough to be kicked out then you're on your own. How much are we paying kitchen help and truck drivers? Not sure what you mean. I'm saying that we're already paying these deadbeats anyway, so we should make them work for it. If that means giving them E1 pay & making them a fobbit, then we still win. |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 6:56:15 PM EDT
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Not sure what you mean. I'm saying that we're already paying these deadbeats anyway, so we should make them work for it. If that means giving them E1 pay & making them a fobbit, then we still win. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How would you pay for it? Take the money from welfare, food stamps, section 8... Instead of public assistance you get shipped to a military base where you get 3 hots & a cot. If you fuck up bad enough to be kicked out then you're on your own. How much are we paying kitchen help and truck drivers? Not sure what you mean. I'm saying that we're already paying these deadbeats anyway, so we should make them work for it. If that means giving them E1 pay & making them a fobbit, then we still win. |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 7:34:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/5/2015 11:32:52 PM EDT
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Who are the deadbeats? Anyone collecting public assistance. Draft the public assistance people & give them E1 pay - if they refuse then they don't get paid - that solves another problem. The truly needy will get 3 hots, a cot, & some spending money to take care of their bills - they might even learn something in the process. The elimination of handouts will save us billions. Quoted:
OK I mean the contractors making $100K, work that can be done by draftees Taxpayers shouldn't be paying contractors $100k (& their companies a significant amount more than that) for something lower enlisted can do. |
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